Dearest:  My guest tonight is AARON TABOR, M.D., Medical Director of Physicians 
Pharmaceuticals, developers of Revival Soy Protein. Physicians Pharmaceuticals is a group of 
mainstream doctors trained at, and associated with, prestigious medical institutions, such 
as Johns Hopkins. 

Studies have proven that soy is beneficial to heart and bone health. Its use also lowers 
cholesterol, protects us from osteoporosis, and for many women will completely eradicate 
hot flashes, depression, fatigue, mood swings, vaginal dryness and other menopausal 
symptoms.

Soy isoflavones are a rich source of natural plant estrogens and act in estrogenic and 
anti-estrogenic ways in our bodies, thereby also helping to protect us from breast 
cancer. 

Welcome back, Dr. Tabor and thank you for joining us for Power Surge's "HRT Controversy" 
series of chats. 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  Thank you Dearest! 


Dearest: Dr. Tabor, the news on everyone's mind these days, especially menopausal
women, is the Women's Health Initiative Study which was abruptly stopped before its
conclusion, the women involved advised to stop taking Prempro immediately. Can you 
explain why the study was stopped? 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  The study was stopped by the National Institutes of health because 
women were being harmed by the HRT drug being studied (Prempro).  The drug produced 
a significant increase in breast cancer risk while also increasing risk of heart 
disease, stroke, blood clots and gallbladder disease.  These results were 
unexpected. 


Dearest:  Thanks, Dr. Tabor, but what confuses me is that in Power Surge, we've been 
talking about this for years. What's so surprising about these findings?  


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  The reason doctors have placed millions of women on HRT was for the 
reason of preventing heart disease, even though doctors have known for many years that 
HRT increased risk of breast cancer. Doctors felt that the risk was worth the potential 
benefits. Now, the data shows that HRT increases risk of BOTH heart disease and breast 
cancer. That is why this is such big news worldwide to millions of women. Also, another 
study shows that estrogen alone increases risk of ovarian cancer.  


Dearest:  Would you agree that many doctors have put women on HRT because doctors
and the 
pharmaceutical companies are holding hands, so to speak?   


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  Well, I'm sure that any industry has some problems, but when so much 
money is spent on promoting certain drugs, it is easy for consumers and physicians to 
want to believe that a drug works and that it is safe.  I don't know if this is the case 
here, but most physicians that I've spoken to are removing their patients from HRT.  


Dearest:  I have two more questions before we go to the audience. So, the women 
participating in the study were advised to stop HRT (Prempro) immediately, yes? 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  They were advised to discontinue use of the study HRT, Prempro, 
drug 
and to talk to their physician as I understand it.  This will leave millions of women 
more confused and frightened than ever about midlife health. 


Dearest:  Dr. Tabor, if a woman decides to stop using HRT, what do you recommend is the 
best way to stop?  


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  1. Talk to her own doctor and inform him/her that she wants to stop. 
2. If she plans to use an alternative, like soy protein, then the HRT should be tapered 
off over a few weeks period (or whatever period the doctor recommends) while at the same 
time beginning use of the soy protein.  


Dearest:  And there are no contraindications to using Revival soy protein with HRT?  
While she tapers off, that is. 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  Revival Soy should be integrated into any woman's health plan--
regardless if she is using HRT or not.  New data, from Wake Forest University, shows that 
soy may reduce detrimental changes in the breast and uterus that is caused by HRT.  


Dearest:  Thank you for your excellent answers, Dr. Tabor. 


Dotbo:  Dr. Tabor, it sounds as if dietary supplements are our next best bet. what is your 
opinion of other natural products for menopause, such as red clover or black cohosh? I've 
heard results of a clinical trial for a supplement called Promensil.  What should my 
doctor and I be discussing when it comes to supplements?   Are they promising for night 
sweats, etc.? 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  Soy protein has been consumed for thousands of years--safely. Soy 
protein is a natural FOOD for HUMANS. Red clover and other herbs do not have the BROAD 
range of health benefits that soy protein does. So, my position is "Why consume something 
that is not natural, doesn't work as well, and may not be as safe?"  Dearest, what are 
your thoughts on this? 


Dearest:  Obviously, I agree. I've been using Revival since June of '98. I believe "natural"  
is the best answer and we always come back to nature :) 


HSpec:  How is the estrogen derived from soy different from the naturally compounded 
estrogens, such as biest? 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  Thank you for that question! It is VERY important to understand that 
soy does NOT contain estrogen like the body's own estrogen, HRT, or natural hormones! Soy 
bioactive compounds, although similar in structure, act very differently in the body and 
actually function as ANTI-ESTROGENS in many tissues like the breast and endometrial 
tissues.

There are many differences:  (between soy protein and HRT) 

1. Soy is a food, while HRT is a prescription drug. 
2. Many studies show that HRT increases risk of many diseases. 
3. Many studies show that HRT has severe side effects (like nausea, irregular bleeding 
and hair loss) and 
4. HRT and other hormone sources raise your levels of estrogen, while soy protein 
will NOT raise your estrogen levels. Soy produces benefits via different mechanisms. As 
far as natural or bio-identical hormones, I'm sure that large studies will have to be 
done to show they are safe given the recent bad news about HRT and estrogen.  


HSpec:  Thank you for this extremely helpful information. 


Sally:  I am having symptoms of numbness & tingling in hands and sometimes feet and vaginal 
dryness until I feel irritated. My doctor prescribed Estradiol 1 mg. and Prometrium 200 
mg. I began on .5 mg. Estradiol but now have doubts about continuing to stay on it. Have 
been drinking 8 oz. a day of Revival Soy for a 3 months and still have symptoms. My doctor  
leans toward HRT, said women didn't use to live as long as they do now that we have HRT. 
I've read that Estradiol and Prometrium are not synthetic. What do you think about them 
and what should I do?? 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  After speaking with your doctor, you may want to increase your amount 
of soy. Menopause severity waxes and wanes. We have many customers that simply 
increase their amount of Revival Soy protein during these times and do great. 
In regards to soy and uterine health, soy does NOT stimulate endometrial tissues. 
In fact, many studies show the exact opposite--soy is an anti-estrogen and 
reduces endometrial proliferation.  

Read more about Revival and endometriosis.  Also, Revival Soy is patented for endometrial health

   
BushBaby:  I have been taking Premarin for about 10 years. Is there any way I can obtain 
Revival Soy in Australia? You have already answered my query about a changeover phase. I 
have severe osteoporosis, gallbladder problems and had DVT (deep vein thrombosis) a few 
months ago. My doctor advised stopping Premarin, but has offered no alternative advice for 
dealing with hot flashes, anxiety, etc. apart from just 'toughing it out'.  


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  If you will e-mail Dearest your information, or e-mail to 
doctors@revivalsoywomen.com, we will see if we can ship to Australia.  


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  You're welcome. Hope you are feeling better soon.


Xstraz:  Is the soy in Revival from genetically modified soybeans?  And are there other 
ingredients?  


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  Revival is genetically-pure (it does not contain genetically-modified 
soy).  We have plain versions if you don't want anything but the soy protein (plain 
shake).  


Dearest:  Women continually ask if they need to use some form of progesterone 
supplementation while using Revival. Is it necessary? If so, why? If not, why not? 
Thanks.  


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  No, it is not necessary! Soy protein doesn't stimulate the endometrial 
lining. The notion of using a progestin or progesterone along with estrogen came when 
doctors realized that estrogen alone significantly increased risk of uterine cancer, 
therefore "HRT", a combination of estrogen and progestin, was born. This is not needed 
with soy protein.  


JoRosa:  I am in perimenopause for about a year now, I have suffered so much, the worst 
is the migraine headaches, what do you suggest to help me with migraines during this 
time? 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  I'm sorry that you are feeling so bad. My mother had a terrible time 
(Revival was created for her for this same reason). I recommend that you insist on seeing 
a headache specialist (make sure it is due to perimenopause) and consider adding Revival 
Soy.  See numerous testimonials from other women who have had a great improvement with Revival.  


Joy:  Is Revival safe for people who are diabetic or on heart medication?  


Dearest:  I take Tenormin (a beta blocker) for arythmia for years and I 
use Revival with no problem. 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  Good question! Yes, Revival is EXCELLENT for anyone with diabetes or 
cardiovascular disease. The FDA and the American Heart Association recommend eating more 
soy protein to reduce risk of heart disease. 

For full details, read more about Revival and diabetes and Revival and heart disease.  


Jade:  What peri and menopause symptoms does the soy protein alleviate? Thanks!  


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  Research shows all of the common complaints like hot flashes, night 
sweats, irritability, depression, fatigue, vaginal dryness and hormone-related headaches. 
The majority of Revival users are women who had these symptoms. We have a very good 
review here.


HeyJude3:  Is progesterone necessary with Revival? 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  No, but it seems to be a very hot topic! (see above) Soy doesn't 
stimulate the endometrial tissues and Revival Soy is actually patented to promote 
endometrial health!  


KittyMom:  I have problems with acne while on HRT. Not sure which hormone causes it. Do 
you feel Revival Soy could help if I switched??


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  It sounds like some of the symptoms my mother was having on HRT.  She 
had terrible side effects. Revival Soy should help you feel much better and soy protein 
has never been shown to increase acne. Regardless of whether you are on HRT or not, you 
can add Revival Soy as the nutritional component of your health plan!  


Hottie:  I drink 16 oz of Revival Soy a day, take 1 mg of Estradiol, eat a lot of fresh 
veggies and fruit, exercise, and do everything I can possibly think of to relieve stress 
and maintain a healthy lifestyle. However, I still suffer from occasional "power surges," 
lots of irritability and forgetfulness, and have been taking 10 mg of Ambien every night 
for the past 2 years (if I don't take it I don't sleep at all. Went sleep deprived for 
2 months when I tried to not take it). I don't have a large intestine due to a total 
ileostomy. Any chance that I'm not absorbing enough soy in my system? 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  The symptoms of menopause wax and wane in severity, particularly during 
the first few years, so you may need to increase your soy protein intake. We have had 
good success with this strategy. With your digestive state though, you may not be 
absorbing enough. Try taking 1/2 of the Revival in the morning and the other half in the 
evening. This may give your digestive system more time to absorb more of the soy and soy 
nutrients.  


Dearest:  Dr. Tabor is also Power Surge's Soy Aficionado. You can read answers to 
hundreds of questions women have asked 


HSpec:  Dr. Tabor, you said that we can increase the amount of Revival Soy we take daily; 
how much of an increase? I am currently having one shake per day. 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  Simply try 1/2 more serving per day (shake or bar--we will soon have 
soy pasta too!) for a period of 2 weeks to see if that helps. Some customers do have 2 
servings per day.  


Dearest:  Dr. Tabor, short and simple: Is Revival soy protein a viable alternative to 
hormone replacement therapy as far as effectiveness?  


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  We have tens of thousands of customers that rely on Revival Soy for 
that very reason and the research is very strong.  


Dearest:  We already know it's an alternative as far as safety :) 


HSpec:  Also, are there other sugar-free Revival soy items besides the shake?


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  Back to Hedda!  We will soon have sugar-free low-carb bars! (end of 
August is our target date).Something that I want to mention that is very important-- the 
key to soy's benefits if eating enough of it on a daily basis. One serving of Revival is 
equal to 6 cups of soy milk or 1 pound of tofu. Our patented process allows us to do this 
naturally. You can't drink enough soy milk to get the full benefits of soy (unless you 
give up your entire diet).  


HSpec:  Yeah, the diabetics out here thank you. 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  We are working hard on it, Hedda! 


Dearest:  Dr. Tabor, what about the nay sayers who say Revival is too high in soy 
isoflavones?  


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  Revival contains the level of soy isoflavones recommended by a panel of 
world soy research experts (the most accomplished researchers in the soy research world). 
As new studies show, these higher levels are needed to get the full benefits of soy.  
Revival is the easiest and best tasting way to get enough soy to make a difference.  We 
have not had problems with hundreds of thousands of customers.  


Sally:  You did not addresses the numbness and tingling sensations that I have had - I 
don't hear of many people having them - Is HRT (Estradiol and Prometrium which my Dr. 
mentioned) my only answer? 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  Sorry! I would insist on seeing a neurologist if you are having 
numbness and tingling to make sure they are related to menopause/HRT.


MaryO:  People on the Power Surge Message Boards keep asking when Revival will be 
available in Canada (and other countries). Any news?  


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  Revival is available in Canada, but the shipping is high unless you 
order it together with a couple of your friends or family.  We are working to find a good 
Canadian distributor to make it much more affordable to customers there. Unfortunately, 
NAFTA did nothing to help soy sales in Canada (tariffs are still charged).  


Dotbo:  Dr. Tabor, are you saying that soy is the only natural alternative to handle 
basic menopause issues, such as hot flashes and night sweats? Didn't the Menopause 
Society recently present research on isoflavones from red clover that showed the 
supplement cut hot flashes? Just sorting stuff out here. Thanks.  


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  I strongly believe that soy protein is the safest and most 
comprehensive natural HRT alternative. Red clover is not a natural food for humans, so 
why take something that is less effective and may not be as safe? Remember that soy 
protein has an official FDA and American Heart Association claim, while red clover does 
not. There are thousands of studies on soy and it has been consumed safely for thousands 
of years. Red clover sales are very slow also.  Soy protein is growing rapidly because it 
works for so many women. With red clover supplements, they are chemically-extracted while 
Revival Soy is not chemically-processed in any way.   


Dearest:  I have to tell you something. I have women who come to Power Surge's message 
boards and chats who say they never believed that soy could have that affect on their 
symptoms. If they hadn't actually seen it with their own eyes, they'd never have believed 
it. If you recall, in the beginning, Dr. Tabor, I had the same doubts after trying many, 
many soy products - shakes, soy milk, soy pills - until I tried Revival and I've been 
hooked ever since. This isn't a plug. It really works.    


Airthatibr:  Regarding the sugar-free products. What form of sweeter do you use? 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  We have many options!  We have UNSWEETENED shakes (you add your own 
choice of sweetener) and our new sugar-free products will contain sucralose, a new 
sweetener derived from real sugar but calorie free. We are eliminating our aspartame line 
because the sucralose tastes so much more natural and better. Our new low-carb bars will 
contain "sugar alcohols" derived from fruit.  These type of sugars taste very good but 
are poorly absorbed.  


Xstraz:  I have been taking Remifemin, but have been told black cohosh is bad when having 
headaches. What is your opinion on this?   


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  I would discontinue use if you are having problems or are afraid to 
take it. I would recommend that you speak to your doctor about any herbal product. Many 
negative studies and drug interactions are possible with chemically-extracted herbal 
products like black cohosh, red clover and vitex. We recommend that all customers consult 
their physician before using herbal products.  


Dearest:  Xtraz, you might want to try 500 mg. of magnesium for the headaches. It's very 
effective for headaches, migraines and palpitations often associated with menopause. 


Marlo:  I've been taking Revival for over a year. It helps with everything. The only 
thing I don't like is it upsets my stomach. Is there anything you can take for it?  I 
tried the enzyme pills, they didn't help. 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  I would recommend trying a smaller serving size and taking with other 
food. If you will contact our Medical Staff at doctors@revivalsoywomen.com, 
we can help you find a solution. Glad to hear that it is helping you so! It may be as 
simple as trying a different version of Revival -- try our sampler pack with all 
varieties.  


Triesrealhard:  what about those of us who are lactose intolerant?   


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  All Revival shakes and bars are lactose and dairy free, so enjoy! Our 
shakes are designed to mix great with water alone (you can use whatever fluid you want).  


Scarlett:  Please help with vaginal dryness. It's very bad. I use no form of HRT. Any  
suggestions?  


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  The amount of soy protein and soy bioactive compounds found in Revival 
Soy are effective at stimulating connective tissue. Revival is actually patented to help 
promote younger looking skin (see younger looking skin  for a listing of Revival patents (we have 12 
patents now--more will be posted soon--I believe 10 or so are already posted. Also, 
you will need to use Revival for about 3 months to see these connective tissue benefits 
unless your body responds faster.  


Dearest:  Scarlett, you can e-mail me at Dearest@aol.com and 
I'll send you some additional info on vaginal dryness, too.


Scarlett:  thank you, Dearest 


Bikearoux:  I have problems with constipation when taking soy products, any solutions 
that will help me digest better? 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  Yes! We have developed a very good digestive aid enzyme for people with 
any type of digestive difficulty. It helps you break down the protein and natural 
carbohydrates (just ask for "Digestive Enzymes") Also, make sure that you are taking 
plenty of fluids and not consuming it too fast.  


Dearest:  Dr. Tabor, please provide us with information to those who make connections 
between high doses of soy and thyroid issues. Thank you.  


Dearest:  Also, Bike, you may want to break up your serving of Revival into two. 


Dearest:  Well, while we're here, can you share some of your wisdom with us about it, Dr. T? 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  Soy is very safe for the thyroid and new human studies show that it may 
lower risk of certain thyroid cancers (we don't claim Revival to be a drug though).The 
FDA looked at the data and didn't find any evidence that soy harmed the thyroid or the 
breast tissues. Newer human studies have put these concerns to rest. 

Everyone must read this!

New data on Revival and breast inflammation reduction can be seen at 
http://www.revivalsoywomen.com/breastinflammation.html

   
Jade:  Dr.Tabor, I see your comments on Red Clover, what about dong quai(not sure of 
spelling) and black cohosh, what exactly are these herbal substances?   


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  They are all chemically-purified herbal products. The reason that I got 
interested in creating Revival Soy for my mother was  because so many thousands of soy 
protein studies exist.  Soy is accepted by both 'alternative' and mainstream doctors. Soy 
has an official FDA heart health claim and American Heart Association statement.  Soy 
will reduce your menopause/PMS symptoms AND reduce your risk of heart disease, so why use 
these herbal products when they are less effective and not as safe as soy protein? Good 
question! 


HSpec:  If sucralose is derived from sugar, is it safe for diabetics?  Thanks again for 
answering all my questions. 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  Yes, very safe! It is FDA-approved and has a very clean taste (the 
retail name is Splenda). Soy can help diabetics maintain better heart health and improve 
kidney function.  


Cg:  As a vegetarian who eats a lot of soy I'm wondering if it's possible to eat TOO much 
soy, can adding Revival to my diet mean too much total soy?  


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  No studies have ever shown that it is possible to eat too much soy 
protein. Research data suggests that one couldn't eat enough soy to do harm.  


Marbles:  Do the Revival bars give you the same amount of soy that the shakes do? And are 
they just as effective? It costs me 7 cents a minute to be in here. I'm happy that all 
your questions and answers are so pertinent. THANKS!  


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  The shakes have a few more grams of protein per serving, but they are 
essentially the same.  We have half-and-half units, so you can order half shakes and half 
bars for a great variety.  Yes, the bars are just as effective.  


Dearest:  Dr. Tabor, thanks once again for another informative chat about SOY ISOFLAVONES 
and REVIVAL SOY PROTEIN. I have personally used Revival since June of '98 and Power Surge 
highly recommends it to peri and postmenopausal women. For more information about 
Revival, visit the Revival Web site and you can 
read my personal story. 

Thank you, Dr. Tabor, for your generous offer to supply everyone present with a free sampler
packet of 7 Revival shakes, 4 Revival bars and chocolate covered soy nuts!  I know everyone
will benefit from and enjoy them. 


Dr. Aaron Tabor:  You're welcome. God bless everyone and have a good night! 


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