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Larrian Gillespie, M.D.  
 



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Dearest: My guest tonight is Larrian Gillespie, M.D., a physician and author of "The Menopause Diet." Dr. Gillespie's medical practice, research and books focus on women's health as they relate to diet. She has designed nutritional programs for numerous performers. Dr. Gillespie's newest books, the subject of tonight's guest chat, "The Goddess Diet" and "The Menopause Diet" are just two of a string of bestselling books for women. Welcome to Power Surge, Larrian. Have you found that many women seem to stop caring about their weight and appearance in general because they're coping with so many difficulties during menopause? I hope it's okay if we call you Larrian :) Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Absolutely fine with me. Re the question. Yes, I found myself excusing the weight gain during menopause because I was following all the advice from the ADA, etc., only to realize it was based on male metabolism and NOT female. When I started to investigate the literature, I found a WHOLE OTHER WORLD of info on women that showed how significantly different our digestive system was. Dearest: Different from men? Different during and after menopause? Different exactly how? Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: All metabolism studies are done in men with women excluded because of fear of pregnancy and fetal toxicity etc. Women's stomachs are very sensitive to the ratio of estrogen to progesterone and when the levels of estradiol, the active estrogen start to lower, as with menopause or thyroid conditions, our stomachs slow down such that we hold food an hour longer than men. This makes us super efficient at sucking out carbohydrates and storing them as FAT, not using them for energy. That's because women have a thrifty gene that allows us to procreate in the face of starvation which explains how those calories from a chocolate chip cookie we sniffed ended up on our hips. Dearest: Thanks, Larrian. Excellent answer. Let's go to the queue now. Oldkid: How can I tackle this horrible craving for Chocolate? Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Ahh, the chocolate diva speaks! A craving for chocolate is due to loss of pyridoxal-5-phosphate, the active form of B6. Women lose 6 times the amount of B6 compared to men, making us naturally deficient in certain amino transferences that help to stabilize our blood sugar and neural transmitters. The answer is to eat more protein and take pyridoxal-5-phosphate coated so as to be absorbed from the small intestine and NOT the stomach. Dearest: Larrian, can you give us some of the basic tips to maintaining a healthy weight or losing weight during menopause when our hormones are all out of whack? Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: There are several things women need to know about maintaining a healthy weight: 1) You need to know what your body mass index is because healthy is less than 25 2) Women can't lose weight without exercise unlike men 3) Studies show that women need more protein to shift the metabolism of estrogen to the inactive, less carcinogenic form 4) Women need to select low glycemic carbs so there is a more stable blood sugar level, which also affects hormone production 5) Get stress under control in your life, because cortisol, which already goes up with menopause, causes us to store fat deep inside our abdomens creating the dreaded Buddha belly. StephanieinSF: I have been on a weight loss plateau for over 1 yr., despite a low-carb eating plan + exercise. Is there hope of losing the 30+ lbs. I still need to lose? (I ordered your books today from Amazon, by the way!) Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Thanks for ordering the books! Now, your situation stresses how strongly our hormones regulate weight and we need to eat in SMALLER portions, 250-300 calories at a time, to speed up the CP450 enzyme system in our livers and keep glucose levels down. Then you need to have your thyroid checked, as women 50+ become hypothyroid due to the loss of estrogen. Then, you need a blood estradiol level done if you are still menstruating the value should be above 200pg/ml at day 14-15, if post menopausal and on estradiol should be between 70-114 pg/ml. Without estrogen levels in the right zone, you won't lose weight. Dearest: Larrian, when you say 250-300 calories at a time, I assume you're suggesting eating more frequent, smaller meals? Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Yes. Studies show women maintain an even blood sugar and keep insulin levels stable at that range and NOT at 100 or 500 (which actually is seen with anorexics and bulimics) who are estrogen deficient. bubbagirl73: You have answered some questions on another site for me. Because I had a large tumor It scares me to see my stomach growing again and the more I try to diet, the more weight I gain. It seems that everything is the wrong thing to eat. Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: You don't say which kind of tumor. Ovarian? Uterine fibroid? bubbagirl73: Ovarian Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Oh, now that is different, so you need to exercise more, still use low glycemic carbs and watch your thyroid function. If your stomach is getting bigger, I presume you have been checked to be certain it is not fluid in your abdomen. Dearest: Larrian, your thoughts on the various popular diets, Weight Watchers, Atkins Diet, The Zone, Sugar Busters? And another is, I believe, The Carbohydrate's Addicts Diet. Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: All of them have their benefits but are not designed for women's gastric metabolism. However, Weight Watchers seems to come the closest with their new changes. Acidosis is NOT a good thing, as it causes intracellular aging -- too high a fat content pushes estrogen metabolism in the wrong direction, and there is no scientific validity to the idea of special combinations of ratios counterbalancing blood sugar response. Dearest: Thanks, Larrian. sanlyn: I have been on HRT for over 12 months, but started to dramatically gain weight, like 2 stone since March this year when I became really depressed, was it the depression and lack of exercise or the HRT that caused this? Dearest: 2 stone = 28 pounds. Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Progestins are notorious for causing depression and you wrote HRT, which means you are taking a progestin. Progestins are drugs that were developed to treat cancer, and didn't do a very good job, so they found a new use, feed them to women even though it was known their responses were very negative in women's bodies, and affected so many other neurotransmitters and could even cause another type of cancer. Oh, forgot, they are the prime reason for weight gain. Dearest: Larrian, what about naturally compounded hormones? Your thoughts? In general and in weight gain. sanlyn: So should I talk to the doctor about going off HRT and then what do I do about the hot flashes? Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Natural progesterone is better, but a new drug was just approved in Europe (naturally) that doesn't affect insulin levels and actually lets blood estradiol levels stay in the above stated range without affecting the endometrium. On my website, in the newsletter section, you can read about the articles on progestins and why women shouldn't take them on my Web site at http://www.menopausediet.com. ed1claudia: Dr. Gillespie, I have several Questions. What types of protein are best for this diet? Also, would you give an example of low glycemic carbs? I seem to have problems with hypo glycemia. Would the smaller meals help here? Or what I think is hypoglycemia -- a sinking feeling. Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Protein is protein. It's the fat associated with it that matters. Soy, however, has another problem in that it contains isoflavones that affect the thyroid in menopausal women. Soy protein is great, but you don't find it alone. Low glycemic carbs usually have a lot more fiber/beans, sprouted wheat berry, broccoli, yams. In my upcoming book The Gladiator Diet I have a list you can put on the refrigerator and use for shopping. Smaller meals let you eat ANYTHING (low or high glycemic) but you will find the amounts vary greatly. Menobud: I just ordered your books today, so I'm sorry, I don't know the answer to this, but how do you feel about HRT? I just began taking it two weeks ago, along with Lipitor, Dyazide and Prilosec, and I have an increased amount of acid. Does HRT affect the digestion? Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Hypoglycemia is the result of sudden gastric emptying brought about by the fundus of the stomach suddenly moving food to the antrum for digestion. The type of hormone replacement therapy DOES affect digestion with progestins DELAYING gastric emptying even further, which leads to heartburn, higher insulin and glucose levels. I found Prilosec very unhelpful for women...works better in men. Menobud: Thank you so much! Dearest: Larrian, no matter what method of treatment we investigate, it seems we're damned if we do and damned if we don't. Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: That's the problem with life. Someday we're going to die, so relax about a lot of stuff. Hot flashes can be treated with arginine 500mg twice a day, low dose estradiol in the right range is ideal combined with diet and exercise. It's all individual, but you can't go haphazardly through menopause when we can live to be over 100 according to today's stats. Dearest: Thank you, Larrian. Oldkid: All the weight I have gained is in my stomach. Why is this where it goes? Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Our bodies have fat receptors that preferentially start to stuff fat in our deep pelvis, outer stomach, hips and thighs, in that order. the Buddha Belly is the one associated with the metabolic X syndrome that puts women at risk for heart disease, diabetes, strokes, which is why we can't allow ourselves to look like a spider body thin arms and legs and fat, round stomach. Cyri: I have been hearing about Phytoestrogens. How many apples would I have to eat a day to help my low estrogen? From low estrogen. Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: I'm not sure what you are asking. Do you want to lower or raise your estrogen, nd if it's lower, are you taking estrogen or perimenopausal? Cyri: I have low estogen. What is boron and isoflavones? I am pre-menopausal. Dearest: You'll find information on boron and isoflavones by clicking here. Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: I think you are trying to say raise your low estrogen. If so, phytoestrogens don't do that. They are really anti-estrogens that attach to the estrogen receptor but have different activity. That is why they are NOT a substitute for estrogen. Boron is a chemical found in soil that helps bones to lay down calcium, but so does potassium carbonate and a diet with a lot of fruit. Phytoestrogens are important for women with endometriosis - which is a disease of estrogen excess - but perimenopausal women are losing estrogen and don't need to be further depressed. Dearest: What about a lot of fruit? Aren't we getting a lot of sugar/carbs with large amounts of fruit? Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Fruit contains fructose, a different form of sugar that is absorbed slower when combined with the excess fiber in MOST fruits. Now this is where format make a difference. Apricots dried are MUCH better than fresh apricots for that very reason. Dearest: Larrian, what happened to the "old rule" of waiting to put women on hormone replacement therapy until after their periods stopped? Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: That's just what it should be, an OLD rule.. As research shows that estrogen receptors lose their responses when deprived of estrogen. I started using low dose estrogen support at age 45, which was more than a few years ago (about 6) and I have kept excellent profiles because of that. Not to mention the difference in my teeth, gums, hearing, eyesight. Dearest: What type of estrogen are you using, if I/we may ask? :) Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: I use estrogel from France, which is transdermal estradiol, like in the patch, but can be spread over a wider surface area. It is absorbed through the lymphatic system which prevents a lot of the liver side effects and allows for individually tailored amounts of estradiol. Dearest: Thanks. One last question before getting back to the queue. Have you heard women complain of internal shaking, tremor-like feelings, during the various stages of menopause? To what would you attribute this type of shaking, which in my case, has, at times, been very intense. Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Shaking is due to rapid changes in blood insulin levels, which can alter the neurotransmittor serotonin. I suspect that is what you are experiencing. Dearest: Ahhh.. so it can be associated with sugar intake? Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Not only that, but drops in estradiol, say 2 quarts low and women become agoraphobic (don't want to leave the house, think objects are moving into them on the road etc). Dearest: Interesting. Thank you so much, Larrian. bubbagirl73: What about memory loss? Mine is terrible. Brain fog. Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Memory loss is due to thyroid and estrogen changes. I keep three sets of phone books because at any one moment, 2 are lost. bubbagirl73: I'm not alone Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: No, it is very common and also made worse by progestins. jdcislander: Due to Breast Cancer treatments - radiation twice and chemo. I put on 15 pounds and cannot seem to lose the weight, I went into chemo. induced menopause. Do you have any suggestions? Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: You should consider asking your doctor for estriol supplementation, the non-cancer related form of estradiol, since you may not be able to take estradiol, but check on that, because thoughts are changing in regards to estrogen denial/support for breast cancer. Weight loss is important here...and can be accomplished very slowly with the Menopause Diet plan and exercise. jdcislander: Thanks Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Also, get your thyroid checked as radiation therapy can screw that up as well. Just discussed it in today's newsletter. lizzie: What would you suggest for night sweats and insomnia? Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: First of all, night sweats are a reaction to cortisol dropping your already poor estrogen levels even lower. Arginine 500mg twice a day helps. Going to bed by 9:30, so that melatonin levels can start to rise (do not take melatonin as it causes weight gain), if you don't take estradiol it's a bit tough. I use just a small amount of additional estradiol at night and sleep without a problem and don't get night sweats like I used to. lizzie: Thanks Dearest: I haven't heard you mention that you use progesterone. Do you only use ERT? Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: I only use ERT because I still have a natural period in that I bleed monthly. However, this month was the first skipped month and once I stop altogether, I would only use natural progesterone once every 4 months, as the endometrial lining no longer responds after about a year of low dose estradiol therapy. Dearest: Excellent answer. Thanks, Larrian. zippy: What causes nightmares in menopause? Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Nightmares are somewhat of a mystery, but again, due to abnormal neurotransmittor function caused by excessive adrenal cortisol levels. Ute: Could you please tell us more about the "new" progestrone just approved in Europe. Also, is estrogel available in the USA yet? Thanks!:) Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Estrogel is not available in the US., but can be obtained from Canada, France, Sweden, Mexico.*** The new pill is a combination birth control pill with Estradiol, 2mg and a new anti-androgen not available in solo format. I will be reporting more on this in my next newsletter. *** Dearest: UPDATE: Estrogel is currently available in the U.S. zippy: I had bad side affects on Evista. What is your opinion? Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: I personally don't like that drug and, in fact, discussed the FDA warning letter to them in today's newsletter. Again, taking potassium carbonate did equally as well without the side effects. CONNIE: Omega 3 & 6 Fatty acids. Your opinion please? A good daily dose? Easiest form to take? Dearest: Flaxseed contains omega 3 essential oils. Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: I eat salmon twice a week, take a flax cereal twice a week. When you take it more often than this, you actually increase your risk for a stroke as it prevents your platelets from clumping like girls at an N Sync concert! Dearest: Is that a fact? I have never heard that before. Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Yes sirreedy bub! Study from Sweden. CONNIE: Supplement not good then? Such as essential woman? Plus salmon? Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Even Dr Dean Edell mentioned it on the Today show. Dearest: I would like to see a copy of that study if you have any info on it. Thanks :) I use much more flaxseed than that. Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Will pull it up and send on to you as I don't have my bibliography file in this laptop. Dearest: Thanks. Oldkid: Can prozac be valuable during menopause to help with stress? Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Potassium carbonate helps you lay down calcium in bone. I do not like Prozac for women as this drug and several like it have been shown to raise prolactin levels and increase the risk for breast cancer. During menopause, you are not serotonin deficient on its own it's due to low estrogen. So, why give that kind of medication which doesn't offer heart/brain/mood etc. protection when low dose estradiol does all the above? Dearest: Larrian, one last question from me -- why are so many SSRI's (anti- depressants) being prescribed to menopausal women for hot flashes and other symptoms? Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Something is TERRIBLY wrong. Again, when drugs start to lose their market share, pharmaceutical companies ALWAYS look for ways to convince doctors WOMEN need to take these meds! You sure don't see them hyping them for male menopause! Dearest: What on earth has happened to the medical profession. It seems to have become big business -- almost as though so many doctors have become drug pushers. Thanks for your feedback, Larrian. CONNIE: I learned alot tonight. Thank you both for caring enough to educate us!! Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: You can get potassium carbonate by combining calcium carbonate and potassium citrate. Shameless plug, as I do in my female formula stress tabs available at the Store on my sites. Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: It's not doctors. It's the pharmaceutical industry and their stockholders who expect certain returns. Medicine is business with a knife! Dearest: Yes, I know that about the pharmaceutical industry. Avarice and greed. CONNIE: Holistic approach needed so much in this area. Dearest: Larrian, it's getting late, but you must come back again to continue. Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: I would be happy to come back again and even discuss my new book, "The Gladiator Diet," available January 4. You can read about it on my website. Dearest: Be sure to read Dr. Gillespie's newest books, The Goddess Diet and The Menopause Diet, to learn how to maintain proper weight during menopause and lose weight as well. Larrian, thank you for a very informative and stimulating chat. We all look forward to your return very soon. Larrian Gillespie, M.D.: Thank you very much for having me as your guest Dearest. I really enjoyed it. This is a terrific group of women. Just name the date. Have computer, will be there! Dearest: Excellent. Thank you and goodnight. Goodnight, everyone! Disclaimer: Every guest in Power Surge is a highly respected professional whose opinions are his/her own. An appearance in Power Surge does not constitute an endorsement of a guest's views. None of these transcripts may be reprinted or reproduced without the express permission of Power Surge™ and the respective guest. Read other transcripts by returning to the Library. 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