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(Michael Friedman's first visit) Dearest: An inspirational Weight Watchers® leader in Oakland, CA, Michael Friedman is Power Surge's GIGS™ (Getting Into Good Shape) Weight-Loss Consultant. Michael has lost 85 pounds on Weight Watchers®. An empassioned endurance runner, Michael has run endurance races and at the age of 51, ran his first of two marathons and has plans for many more in the future. Michael also raised thousands of dollars for the Arthritis Foundation in the process. Losing weight, becoming fit, and successfully completing the marathon have changed Michael's life forever. He passions include Weight Watchers®, The Arthritis Foundation and his current goal of earning a Certificate in Fitness Teaching. Michael, it's a pleasure to welcome you to Power Surge :) Michael, in order to succeed not so much at losing, but keeping weight off, isn't it important to first understand the reasons for our poor eating habits? In short - to understand the difference between physical and emotional hunger? Go ahead, Michael :) Mike Friedman: Thank you for the kind introduction, Alice. It's a true pleasure to be here tonight. Your question is perfect. The bottom line is that the real reasons we have weight issues usually have to do with emotional issues. The easy part of losing weight is the "physical" part. The more important issue, for keeping it off, is dealing with the emotional issues. Dearest: May we call you Mike? Mike Friedman: Please. Mike is perfect. :-) Dearest: Thanks :) Let me ask you.. with regard to coming to grips with the emotional eating, how does Weight Watchers® help us address that? Mike Friedman: That can call for a long answer, which I will not give! In short, at WW we have what we call the Tools for Living, a set of strategies for dealing with emotional issues and helping members find ways to change regarding the emotional issues they have. Dearest: Mike, how does Weight Watchers® differ from all the other diets out there? Mike Friedman: Another good question, Alice. Dearest: And, boy, are there a lot of diets! Mike Friedman: Let me answer by saying something about what WW is rather than what others are. First WW is not a diet. We provide information about how to eat well, how to eat in a healthy manner. In so doing, we provide information on how to eat real food. We also emphasize the importance of activity/exercise. On top of that we encourage people to look at the real reasons for their weight issues. Dearest: Excellent reply, Mike. Thanks. Let's go to the queue. Toga, go ahead, please :) TogaGirl4U: Are you familiar with soy, and whether it adds weight or makes it easier. It seems that since I started eating tofu, it has been harder to lose weight. Mike Friedman: Toga, that's a good question. The real issue, it seems to me, is what you are eating overall. Remember that soy is a relatively high fat bean. So tofu can be a high fat choice. There are, of course, lower fat tofus in stores as well. I would suggest that you look at your the totality of what you are eating, not just the tofu. Dearest: Thanks, Mike. JStjohn, go ahead, please :) JStjohn885: Mike, how do you keep yourself motivated when you have a lot to lose? I'm a WW member and have lost 75 lbs in 15 months. I'm finding it harder to keep up the good attitude and stay on track lately. Dearest: Wow. Congratulations! Mike Friedman: JStJohn, congratulations!!!! You've had fabulous success. JStjohn885: Thanks! Mike Friedman: I know how hard it can be after losing so much over that length of time. You might want to go back and look at what got you started. You might want to envision the future you at your goal weight. Picture yourself at your goal and how your life will be different. This, of course, is where the tools for living can be so important. Perhaps you and your leader can take some time to examine your motivating strategy and you can set some new short term goals to help move you along. Dearest: Mary, please go ahead :) PianoMary: I've been a Weight Watcher member several times now. This last time, I got within 2 pounds of my goal, but I can't make myself actually get there...(I've been working on these 2 pounds for over a year). Any hints? Mike Friedman: Tough question, Mary. It's difficult to answer in a setting like this where we can't just sit down and talk about your specific situation. In all honesty, there are more questions I'd want to ask you about what is making it so difficult for you at this time. Do you have a leader you can talk to? That's the key, I think. PianoMary: Yes, I do - thanks :) Dearest: Mike, do you think some may be afraid when they get too close to their goal weight? It may mean letting go of a crutch of sorts. Is that possible? Losing some form of security? Mike Friedman: Alice, that's very possible. The scariest part of WW is reaching goal weight and having to stop losing. We are so accustomed to losing our weight that when we are supposed to stay at the same weight it can be very, very difficult. Let me invite you, Mary, to send me E-mail about your question and we might be able to explore your issues in more depth. PianoMary: Thanks :) Dearest: It's very understandable. That's very kind of you, Mike. Mary, do E-mail Mike. Sherry, please go ahead with your question for our guest :) Mike Friedman: Dearest, you're too kind! :-) Sherry1015: I take a soy drink product, 240 calories can I incorporate that into WW Program? Would I just count the calories, I don't want to give up the drink I use for estrogen replacement. Dearest: I think Sherry's talking about the Revival soy protein drinks we use for menopause. Right, Sherry? Mike Friedman: Sherry are you a Weight Watchers® member? And yes, you can incorporate that into the program. Sherry1015: Yes I am and I love it!!! Mike Friedman: Everything, absolutely everything, is in the WW program. You just have to count the points!!!! Sorry, folks, that's WW jargon. :-) Dearest: GooDawg, go ahead, please :) GooDawg: You have lost the weight before. What is making it work for you this time to keep it off? Mike Friedman: Thank you for that question, GooDawg. When I lost the weight the first time I hadn't come to grips with the emotional reasons for my weight issues. That made it all too easy to slip and regain all the weight when things became too hard for me. Now, with the Tools for Living, and having trained for and run a marathon, I'm truly a changed man. I am quite confident that I have all the resources I need within myself to keep that weight off. I don't want to go back again. If you want, you can see my before picture on my Web site and that serves as a reminder to me of what I don't want to go back to. Dearest: Peakflow, go ahead please. Peakflow29: I find the afternoons difficult, I have a sweet tooth what do I have, which choices do I have especially since i have a sweet tooth. fruit doesn’t do it for me. Mike Friedman: Tough question, Peakflow! First, are you a Weight Watchers® member? If you are, I have some concrete ideas. Peakflow29: Yes Mike Friedman: Great! First, to plug a product :-), have you tried any of the new nutrition bars? They are really excellent, and as you know, each one is only 2 points. Peakflow29: Ok. Any other suggestions? Mike Friedman: The other suggestion I would make is if you aren't already doing so, carefully plan your points for the day ahead of time making sure you are able to have an afternoon treat and be within your points range for the day. Remember that anything is ok so long as you count the points!!!! That's such an easy concept to talk about and much harder to actually do, I know. But try any way!!!! Good luck to you. Peakflow29: Thanks Dearest: Excellent answers, Mike... terrific for your first guest chat :) JCory, go ahead. JCory95887: Why is it hard to go back to WW and if you were a leader for 14 years? Mike Friedman: Thank you, Alice! I'm sorry, JCory, I don't understand your question. Could you try to rephrase it for me? Dearest: JCory, were you a Weight Watchers leader? JCory95887: I am having a hard time, I need to go back to WW, I was a leader for 14 years. Dearest: That's what I thought. JCory95887: I have not worked for WW in a year. Mike Friedman: I have some guesses, JCory, but guesses are the best I can do here. Dearest: JCory, does that mean you kept your weight off for 14 years? Mike Friedman: Alice, she absolutely did. And good for you, JCory. That's quite a feat. JCory95887: Yes, I really joined in 72, came back in 83 and was a leader from 84-97. Mike Friedman: To be a WW leader requires that you be at your goal weight and a lifetime member. It can be very difficult when one regains weight and feels a need to return to WW. Elements of shame can enter into it. Feelings of lost self-esteem can play a role. A feeling of failure can take over. All these are very real issues which need to be looked at. The best place, usually is at a WW meeting actually since we are a functional family of people all on the same journey!!!! All of us, lifetime members and first time members, are on a journey to deal with their weight issues, so JCory, try just coming back and seeing what happens! JCory95887: I do plan to go back and start thinking thinner again, you have hit the nail on the head, thank you Dearest: While we're waiting for Mike to reply, JCory, let me say that you should be very proud of yourself for keeping the weight OFF for 14 years! Try not to beat yourself up over it. Just start fresh like you did when you first lost. Sound reasonable? JCory95887: Yes, I will. Mike Friedman: Alice, those are tremendous words of wisdom. Dearest: Suzi, go ahead, please. Suzijkel: At 53 with 40-50 pounds to lose it's an uphill battle. What's answer? Mike Friedman: Suzi, that can be tough! Try to remember that you still have many years of wondrous life ahead of you. There's really no time like the present to get started on any journey which you want to take. It is possible to say that age 53 is just a number and nothing more. I know that can sound flippant, but that's one of the things that enabled me to run a first marathon at age 51. If that attitude is one you can adopt for yourself, you will go far!!! (And not just with weight loss!!!) Suzijkel: I find it discouraging and I don't think I'll ever reach my goal. Dearest: And, Suzi, remember, too.. you will feel so much better when you lose even the first few pounds. Suzijkel: I'll certainly try. Mike Friedman: Suzi, I know how discouraging it can be. To develop that initial motivation can be very difficult. Try to find someone who wants to lose weight with you. That may just be what will push you forward. Dearest: PTLDiane, go ahead, please :) PTLdiane: I am stuck in a pattern of eating way to much, I need to get on track. Help :) Hi Dearest :) Dearest: Hi, Diane (by the way, everyone, I heard from Dr. Diane (Eisman) today. She's doing fine, thank God) Mike Friedman: Diane, are you a Weight Watchers® member? If not, probably you want to join a weight loss program such as Weight Watchers®, Jenny Craig, or Overeaters Anonymous. PTLdiane: I am not .. I have gained 40 pounds since Meno. Dearest: The magic number :( Mike Friedman: Diane, the best way I know of to deal with "out of control" eating, if that is what you would characterize your eating, is with a structured program. That's why I make that suggestion. It's just too hard to do by yourself. PTLdiane: It is out of control. An addiction I believe. Dearest: Raise your hands and tell me how many of you gained weight siince starting perimenopause? Just type "yes". Z J Gragg: Me! Sherry1015: yes Geebee2000: Yes PTLdiane: yes Jem217: yes SPP212: yes O SEAPEARL: yes! MELADONNA: yes MBarr227: yes PianoMary: yes Sally1019: yes DSLKS: yes Z J Gragg: Yes JTHerron: yes PatandDick: yes Dearest: How many of you have gained in excess of 20 pounds? SDoug94661: yes Sherry1015: yes O SEAPEARL: yes Jem217: not yet SPP212: yes PTLdiane: me :( Geebee2000: yes Z J Gragg: Yes MBarr227: yes MELADONNA: 15 DSLKS: no :) PatandDick: yes Z J Gragg: but lost 54 1/2 too SPP212: Gained lost gained again Dearest: Amazing! Thanks. OSEAPEARL, go ahead, please. O SEAPEARL: I lost 50 lbs 3 years ago and gained it back last year.. .Part of the problem is family in that my structure eating does not fit theirs. Also wasn't it Jack La Lange who inspired the creation of WW? I am having to bring a structure, that works with family. Mike Friedman: Sea, family issues can be so difficult! I have two children who live with me half the time and I know they don't want to eat like their dad. :-) I just find that I have to prepare meals that I want and let them have what they want. O SEAPEARL: My daughter complains that I am mentally away from the family when I am successfully dieting. Mike Friedman: I don't know if that can work for you though. Sea, there are so many questions I'd like to ask you!!! I don't know that we have time for that now, though. Dearest? Dearest: Go ahead and ask, Mike. It will help everyone. Mike Friedman: That's fine. Sea, does your daughter perceive that you are depriving yourself? Do you feel that you are depriving yourself? O SEAPEARL: No depriving HER Mike Friedman: How would you be depriving her? O SEAPEARL: I feel I am depriving myself when I am not eating my structured eating. Don't KNOW???? I think I focus too much on ME.... Dearest: You know, even family members can be jealous sometimes :( Mike Friedman: There is absolutely nothing wrong with focussing on yourself. Dearest is right. O SEAPEARL: I am weight lifting and exercising... and I don't eat with them as they both eat what I can’t. Mike Friedman: If you are doing things differently from the way you have in the past, your family members may not appreciate those changes in you. Dearest: People can be jealous when you lose weight and look good and do things for YOU, not them all the time. Mike Friedman: Unfortunately, under those circumstances they may try to sabotage your efforts, though not necessarily consciously. O SEAPEARL: She did complain of other men looking at me when I lost weight and was very protective. Dearest: I'm sure this sounds familiar to lots of women here. Mike Friedman: Sea, those issues go way beyond weight issues!!!! She may be afraid of losing your love and affection if you are thinner and attractive to men. That's not the least bit unusual! O SEAPEARL: I think you have something there.. Her father, my husband talked with her some many times he loved that I was thin Now she wants me thin again, but I know this will happen again. Dearest: Mike, how about picking this up in email with OSea? Mike Friedman: That's a good idea, Alice. Dearest: There's a new feature on the Power Surge Web site at: write this down..... Ask The Weight-Loss Expert. You can ask Mike questions there :) Jem, go ahead. Jem217: have always been overweight, love bread, but lately I crave sweets, I am 50 and getting out of control, and unhappy with myself. Mike Friedman: Jem, I'm sorry that you are feeling unhappy. The best I can suggest is that you find a weight loss program that you can join. Jem217: I was never a candy lover, but I am eating so much sugary stuff, no diabetes, Mike Friedman: A program which directly deals with the emotional issues we all face, such as Weight Watchers®, is important. Jem, you need to find something that works for you! WW may not be the one for you, that's all. Jem217: I tried WW no luck. I do not want to take pills of any kind. Mike Friedman: Please do that!!!! Please, do not take pills!!! Find that program for yourself. I might also suggest that the leader you had at WW may not have been the one for you. Different leaders handle things differently. Jem217: Does menopause make you crave sweets? Dearest: Yes, Jem, menopause makes you crave sweets < chocolate, especially> Dearest: Mike, isn't it also important to rid oneself of the mind-set, "I can't" before one even starts? We can talk ourselves into defeat before we even try! Mike Friedman: Alice, that's tricky. It can be difficult to remove that "I can't" mentality Jem217: Thank you for the time... Mike Friedman: First... Sometimes you have to start as a matter of faith!!! :-) And then see where you take yourself. Dearest: Also, it's a wonderful cycle.. once you lose even one pound, you want to lose more. It's just the getting started. Geebee, go ahead. Geebee2000: I'm familiar with WW, somewhat. You mentioned Jenny Craig. Do you consider that a good program and how does it compare to WW? Mike Friedman: Geebee, thanks for the question. First, let me say that I'm not here to promote Weight Watchers®, although I love the program. Secondly, I don't know a lot about Jenny Craig. I do know that a lot of my members have been members of Jenny Craig and were not successful in the long run. I also know, from Jenny Craig adverstisements in recent weeks, that they no longer have required foods. Weight Watchers® never has. I also understand from independent studies, that WW has the best results for long term maintenance of weight loss. Dearest: Thanks, Mike. PatandDick, go ahead, please. PatandDick: I have stayed on a 1500 calorie diet for a month and exercised regularly and no weight loss. Help? Mike Friedman: I'm almost embarrassed to say, PatandDick, that I can't answer your question. In WW we don't count calories!!!!! Mike Friedman: We use what we call points, which are based on grams of fiber, grams of fat, and calories. And, lastly, I have no way to know your caloric needs anyway. PatandDick: I tried WW and gained! Dearest: How old are you, Pat? Are you of menopause age? PatandDick: Yes I am 56 Dearest: Are you postmenopausal? PatandDick: Yes Dearest: Do you exercise? Metabolism slows down and weight loss is much more difficult during and after menopause. PatandDick: Yes walk every morning 5 days a week Dearest: Mike can talk to you about exercise. Why don't you email him? Tessy, go ahead, please. TESSYBW: Diagnosed with hypothyroidism--can't seem to lose the weight I’ve gained 2 yrs and 20 lbs, lifetime WW since '88 I get hungry within points. Dearest: Remember, Mike Friedman is not a medical doctor. Mike Friedman: Thank you for that reminder, Alice. If I were your WW leader, Tessy, I'd ask to look at your journal just to see how you are using your points, to see what you are eating to reach your point total. Are you eating at the top of your range? TESSYBW: Crave carbs. Yes i seem to push 25 points. My range is 18 to 25. Dearest: I sometimes stand by the sink, but never at the top of the range :) Sherry1015: :) Mike Friedman: Tessy, specifically what are you craving? TESSYBW: Breads and pasta mostly Dearest: (carbs beget more carbs. if you cut some out, you'll crave less) TESSYBW: What about limiting carbs to one time during the day? Mike Friedman: Dearest, that's only partially true in my experience. Complex carbohydrates tend to fill one up. whole grains, etc. The simpler carbs, like potatoes, non whole grain breads, etc., may do just as you suggest. Tessy, you can try out different strategies and find out what works for you. That's the best way to handle WW any way. Make it your program!!!! TESSYBW: If i cut too much I tend to over compensate next day. Thanx Dearest: Tessy, go to the Web site and you can ask any questions you wish of Mike: http://www.power-surge.com/asktheexperts/diet.shtml I found when I cut down on carbs, I lost weight... at least at this stage of my life (in menopause). DEE, go ahead. DEE4DOVE: Most weight loss programs seem to suggest eating lots of veggies. I'm not a big fan of many and corn is my favorite and I believe that's probably the worst. What do you suggest? Mike Friedman: Tough qustion, Dee. :-) Veggies are so important, both because they are nutritionally important and you can generally eat as many nonstarchy veggies as you like. And corn is a starch veggie, so yes, that can be a problem. DEE4DOVE: Right the nonstarch ones. Lettuce, peas, green beans that's about it and a tablespoon or so is about all I can handle at one sitting. Would there be anything else that would substitute Mike Friedman: Perhaps you need to find some new recipes so that you vary the flavors. You might want to try a vegetarian cook book of some kind. I'm afraid there are no substitutes. Veggies are veggies and that's it. Sorry. DEE4DOVE: Ok. Thanks for the suggestion. Mike Friedman: Good luck to you, Dee. DEE4DOVE: Thanks, night. Dearest: Mike, when women are in menopause, their metabolism slows down to almost a halt. On WW, can we have less than the recommended points? Mike Friedman: Dearest, there are many postmenopausal women in the meetings I lead. All of them eat according to the points range and they seem to be doing fine. One just recently reached lifetime actually!!! She was so thrilled. That means she reached her goal weight. The minimum points are really necessary to meet all nutritional needs. Dearest: Postmenopausal is a bit different as the metabolism levels off. In perimenopause, the worst part, metabolism is very slow while the hormones ebb and flow. I find I only lose weight by eating less - on any diet. Including WW. And for me, personally, I only lost weight when I cut down on carbs. Can't we be on WW and not eat all the bread and starches? Mike Friedman: Sure. You can be on WW and eat any way you want to reach your points. The important thing is to eat a nutritionally sound diet. Dearest: Piglet, go ahead. Piglet6722: Daughter is a dancer, 4 hrs. per nite. What will give her most energy to maintain for long period of time. without losing weight, but keep up such a strenuous schedule. Protein in question, drinks, or any suggestions? Mike Friedman: Piglet, are you talking about protein supplements or supplemental beverages? Piglet6722: Either, it they help....or should she get it out of food? very strenuous schedule. Mike Friedman: Piglet, in general she should get her nutritional needs met by food. In certain rare situations, such as body building, supplements may be useful. Piglet6722: Are supplements good for energy for a ballet dancer? or weight gain? Mike Friedman: She might want to consult with a personal trainer or her dance teacher. Piglet6722: ok... Dearest: Mike, please remind everyone how important exercise is for successful weight loss :) (especially for women in any phase of menopause) Mike Friedman: My pleasure, Alice. Exercise is tremendously important. It does wonders for weight loss, alone, because of the calorie burn. It will provide a boost to self-esteem. Exercise gives you more energy. Yes using energy begets more energy. Mike Friedman: Also, much energy does much to improve/maintain bone density which is so important for all of us. Excuse me, that was supposed to be that much exercise is important for bone density. Dearest: Wonderful, Mike. Chris, go ahead. Chrismaine: What about water -- I try to drink water -- is it important to weight loss? If I drink water before I eat, I think I'll eat less and loss - right? Mike Friedman: You might, indeed, want to eat less. Often when one "feels" hungry actually they are thirsty, and water is the best beverage to deal with thirst. In WW we want people to drink at least 6 glasses of water of 8 ounces per day. Water is plain and simple extremely important for anyone, whether losing weight or not. Dearest: Michael, thank you for joining us in Power Surge to field our questions about all the d ynamics involved with weight loss and (G)etting (I)nto (G)ood (S)hape™ :) Anyone interested in asking questions of Michael can do so on the Power Surge Web site's "Ask The Weight-Loss Expert" at: http://www.power-surge.com/asktheexperts/diet.shtml. Please join me in thanking our new weight loss consultant, Michael Friedman for a stimulating evening in Power Surge :) Z J Gragg: Thank you, Mike! PianoMary: {S applause MBarr227: Thank you very much. Geebee2000: That was great, Mike! I'm inspired to find a WW group in my area. Thanks so much! Sue: {S applause PianoMary: Great chat, thanks Mike..and Dearest :) JTHerron: Thank you! Chrismaine: Thanks! TogaGirl4U: Thanks so much :) O SEAPEARL: Thank you Mike. Sue: Thank you for coming!! PianoMary: Please come back again sometime, Mike Z J Gragg: {S applause Cinda: Thank you Michael PianoMary: You did so well for your first guest chat :) Dearest: Mike, we should do a monthly weight-loss chat. Would you like that? Mike Friedman: Thank you, Alice and everyone, it was a great pleasure to be here. Dearest: Mike, thanks so much. You were great, especially for your first guest chat :) Mike Friedman: Thank you again, Alice. Your hosting made it possible for me. Sherry1015: Thanks Mike you were wonderful... Dearest: I'd like to dedicate this first meeting to someone who's been with Power Surge a long time and has really worked hard to lose over FIFTY pounds.. our own ZJGragg, Zelma! Weigh to go, Zelma! THRV Sue: {S applause Z J Gragg: (blushing)!!!! Dearest: On Weight Watchers®, too! TogaGirl4U: Applause! Sherry1015: You go girl!!! Yea Zelma!!! Mike Friedman: Congrats, Z J! Geebee2000: Zelma, I'm so jealous. MBarr227: Hurray!!!! Dearest: Zelma has been an inspiration to us all. Right, gals? Chrismaine: Congratulations, Zelma! you go girl! Z J Gragg: Yes, I love the new WW program! Thank you all. Dearest: Can we do it? Marlinluvr: you go girl!!!!! Cinda: Wonderful Zelma Sherry1015: You bet O SEAPEARL: COngrats Z!!! Dearest: Let's hear you say it! C'mon... CAN YOU LOSE THAT WEIGHT YOU WANT TO LOSE? TogaGirl4U: We can do it! :) Marlinluvr: YES we can Dearest! Z J Gragg: YES! MBarr227: WE CAN DO IT!!! Dearest: You have to believe you can. Sherry1015: Yes~ Chrismaine: Yes, we can !!! Geebee2000: Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dearest: Hey, if you can survive menopause, you can lose weight. Right, Mike? TogaGirl4U: I have lost 23 pounds since last summer! Most of it since October! MBarr227: I believe... Cinda: :> Mike Friedman: Absolutely. I figure if I could lose 85 pounds and run a marathon, anyone can do what they need to do. Dearest: LOL! What a fabulous inspiration, Mike!!!! And look how great you feel and how wonderful you look! Good for you, Toga! MBarr227: I'm going back to WW Tuesday evening! Geebee2000: I'm not planning on running a marathon anytime soon, though ;-> Dearest: Instead of saying "Way to go".. we say "Weigh to go - go a-weigh weight!" Mike Friedman: Good for you, MBarr!!! Best of luck. Dearest: Good luck, MBarr :) MBarr227: Thank you... Dearest: Mike, thanks, again. It was a wonderful chat! PianoMary: thanks :) Dearest: The transcript will be up in the library sometime before the next millennium. O SEAPEARL: Nite all.. off to the treadmill < G> PianoMary: it was a great chat - I hope you can come back again Dearest: Just kiding. Night, Mike!!!! Z J Gragg: Must be in Calif.! Sherry1015: Good Night Mike THRV Sue: Night Mike see you again PianoMary: night, Mike - thanks :) Dearest: Mike, you'll come back again real soon! Mike Friedman: Good night. I'm sure I'll be back. Z J Gragg: Night Mike! Thanks! MBarr227: Bye Mike, thanks again. Geebee2000: Nite.. Try to never miss Sunday nights. Thanks all.....Love you Dearest: Night, everyone! Read Mike Friedman's second transcript Read Mike Friedman's third transcript Read Mike Friedman's fourth transcript Read Mike Friedman's fifth transcript Read Mike Friedman's sixth transcript Disclaimer: Every guest in Power Surge is a highly respected professional whose opinions are his/her own. An appearance in Power Surge does not constitute an endorsement of a guest's views. None of these transcripts may be reprinted or reproduced without the express permission of Power Surge™ and the respective guest. Read other transcripts by returning to the Library. 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