Hi,

Has anyone tried this?  I saw this in the health food store yesterday and was inquiring about it for fatigue.

The brochure said it benefits menopausal women....

I do know a couple of people who benefited from NADH...which is similar.  

Both help with cellular metabolism supposedly.

Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with it helping with energy and menopause symptoms or if any of the guests on chats have mentioned enzymes.

I know Co-Q10 is talked about a lot but not the NADH or Coenzyme-A.  

I've been very interested for years in preventive/alternative health practices/products and I can't remember anything about Co-enzyme A.   I remember the name but that's it.   I'll keep my eye out for info. about it.

Sherri

Sherri,

Have you heard much about Enada or NADH?   My friend with chronic fatigue (who is also in menopause) says the Enada has helped her a lot with energy and memory since being on it a month.   She has tried many things and this has helped more than anything else.   She already has been on Prozac and sleep meds for years and still had much fatigue...chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia.

I am thinking about trying the NADH now since she has had positive experiences with it.    There was one study at Georgetown Un. on it for chronic fatigue and it showed much improvement for those in that study.

Both the coenzyeme A and NADH are similar in that they improve the ATP(energy)  in the body at the cellular level.  

I personally know a woman who had severe chemical sensitivity caused by overexposure at work and was out of work for seven years with fatigue and responses to many chemicals.   Last I talked with her she is back at work full-time and no longer even needs the NADH as it seemed to help her become normal again.   She took it for six months.   Before that Doxepin helped her improve but not to the same level the NADH did.

I am intererested in this because of what it could do to help menopausal women with the stress their bodies are undergoing all the changes.   I even read where it helps depression....with no side effects.  

I see where Enada is from 2 l/2 mg to 5 mg when you buy it.   My friend takes 10 mg per day but I read where that is an okay dose too.    You can buy this at the health food store.

It would be nice to have energy in menopause for those of us who drag around some days.   If it helped with energy and depression and mental clarity  it would be so great.

Hi Nancyv,I've never heard of Coenzyme A and Enada. Don't the natural hormones you're on take care of the mental clarity and fatigue?

Suzie

Suzie,

The natural hormones have helped with anxiety, hot flashes, dizziness, and mental clarity but not all of the fatigue.  I think this is because my fatigue has a lot to do with insulin resistance and metabolism problems and thyroid problems as well.    So hormones cannot correct for everything....but they definitely help and I would be a total basket case without them..as it is I am only half a basket...

Nancy... did you ever try the DHEA...  I remember you asking about it.  It does help me with the fatique.  :)

Kalanie,

I never did try it...now can't remember why.   If my cortisol comes back out of whack,  I probably should look into the DHEA again as that has to do with the adrenals, doesn't it?

The DHEA may very well be part of it and glad you brought it up.

I am glad it has helped you.

I don't know who is testing your cortisol, but if it comes back "out of whack", you should probably find out why before messing with your adrenal glands.  Excess or insufficient cortisol can cause a whole raft of problems and diseases which should be monitored carefully by a competent endocrinologist.

Just my 2 cents - but I've had excess cortisol and it wasn't anything to trifle with.

Nancy...  I am not sure what relationship DHEA might have to the adrenal glands.  I do know that it is a precurser hormone, depletes rapidly as we age, and helps with fatigue, as well as some other things.  

MaryO,

Thanks for the info.   Family doctors don't know enough to deal with that I guess.    I have read where natural hydrocortisone is very different from using synthetic...what do you think?

Kalanie,

I have read that the combination of low DHEA and high cortisol may have something to do with stress and possible adrenal problems.   I thought if I have both then I do need to check it out further with an endocrinologist like Mary suggested.

I read something negative about DHEA but now can't remember what it was so it made me back up about it.   I guess I need something for memory...

I have a feeling the cortisol is okay but this is the first time I have checked this with the saliva test.

Hi Nancy...

I understand that high cortisol has to do with possible stress to the adrenal glands, but I have not heard that low dhea has anything to do with it.  Pete has talked to me about high cortisol and the adrenal glands, but has never mentioned dhea in the issue at all.  I think it's normal for people to have low dhea at midlife, but not as common to have high cortisol.  I do know there is a medication if one's cortisol is really high, that Pete says "give the adrenal glands a rest", but I don't know much more than that about it, lol.  I think Mary is the real expert in that area, especially, because of her own experience with it.  

My memory is probably as bad as you say yours is...  if I have heard anything negative about dhea, I don't remember that!  

&nbsp; &nbsp; DHEA is an androgen and I understand it's<br>best to have the level tested before supplementation.<br>It boosts both estrogen and testosterone levels.<br>DHEA may cause irregular bleeding. &nbsp;Since it is<br>mostly converted into male sex hormone, the <br>following side effects are possible: &nbsp;acne, hair<br>growth, negative effect on blood lipids and liver<br>toxicity. <br> &nbsp; &nbsp; I had my DHEA and Cortisol checked by my<br>endocrinologist. &nbsp;The DHEA is fine but the cortisol<br>is slightly elevated. &nbsp;Stress or depression can<br>elevate cortisol levels. &nbsp;I have to practice more<br>stress management!!<br> &nbsp; &nbsp;

Hi Chris...

In regard to DHEA, Pete tells me that it does not convert to the other hormones enough to make much of a difference.   Most of the side effects that you have listed are all common side effects of too much testosterone, and I would be interested to know about the irregular bleeding, as I have not seen that anywhere, unless I forgot it, which is a very strong possibility.   :biggrin:   As for the liver, most everything we take will have some effect on that, including common aspirin.  I guess we just have to pick our poison sometimes, so to speak.  :)

I think it's wonderful that your DHEA levels are fine, because, as I understand it, from a variety of different sources, our DHEA depletes rapidly after about the age of 25.   You must be managing something right!  :)

Kalanie,<br> &nbsp; &nbsp; My source for the information on DHEA was &quot;The<br>Change Before The Change,&quot; by Laura Corio, M.D.<br> &nbsp; &nbsp; My supplement bill is huge, and has been for years.<br>I'm glad I'm doing something right, but I'm not sure what that is!!!