I am so glad to find such a supportive  and informed group.  I've been suffering from burning vagina and burning down the insides of my legs since January of this year.  I've been post menopausal for 7 years. After a very stressful year and 3 days before an extremely stressful exam, I began to experience a burning in my vagina and burning pains down my legs.  My GYN saw bacteria but when I finished treatment the burning was still there.  I have not been sexually active since my husband died 4 years ago.  After lots of tests, my doctor put me on Premarin creme. I have only been on Premarin for a few days, it is helping a little but I still feel the burning.  I also feel like my vagina is "puffy" and swollen.  I want to change to something else as soon as possible.  I have avoided HRT so far.  Is there anyone out there who get the vaginal burning without intercourse?  Does it come and go or just continually burn? I would appreciate any help you can give.

(Edited by Madalon at 11:49 pm on May 10, 2002)

(Edited by Madalon at 1:20 pm on May 11, 2002)

Madalon,did your GYN test you again to make sure that bacteria was not still present?  If you're still feeling the burning sensation, I would insist that she/he move on it to figure out what's going on.  You could go to some of the other boards on Power Surge, to see if other women are experiencing this.  Maybe it's time for a second opinion?I don't think it's anything to worry about, but may be time to see another Dr?.  also--it takes time for any type of hormonal "therapy" to kick into gear.

Debbi

(Edited by debrikkia at 12:36 am on May 11, 2002)

well, all I can say, is thank GOD someone has this besides me!  I  went on Loestrin in December (I'm 45 and suffered for more than 2 years with the second day of my period being so clotty and heavy I was afraid to leave the house).  The dr. said this should regulate me -- BUT .... in the past couple of months, I've noticed that I'm constantly irritated down there -- thought it's always a yeast infection, but now am realizing it's not (that's because I just finished two diflucan pills and TWO night's worth of suppositories), and I still have the burning feeling.  It feels like it starts in the vagina, and then just continues until the whole area outside is so irritated that after I go to the bathroom there is blood on the toilet tissue!  It seems to happen after my husband and I have intercourse -- I'm fine for about 3 days and then boom -- there it starts again.  

I'm so confused ...... my regular dr. gave me premarin creme to use a couple of times a week, as he feels that I'm too "dry" because of the low-dose birth control pill.  

At this point, I just don't know where to turn.  I've tried everything -- changing soaps, panties, no douching even with vinegar and water, vagistat, and just using the suppository vaginal creams on the outside, but really to no avail.

I just got the Rx for the premarin cream this week and have only used .5 of it two times now -- can't say I notice a significant difference, but I know it does take time for this stuff to kick in.

I'm wondering if anyone out there is having any similar symptoms???? I don't get the pain down the legs at all ...... I guess that's a good thing -- but sometimes my whole area down there is so sore I barely want to sit down.

HELP!

To all of you who have the burning of the vaginal area and down the legs (also my feet). I have had this since 1997 and have had all sorts of tests including biopsies in the vulva area, but everything came back negative. I am on HRT but have not had much relief from this. Like some of you it hurts to sit, walk, exercise,swim..just about anything. Would not even dream of having intercourse right now and haven't for 4 years, but have a very understanding husband who always goes to the doctors with me trying to get answers. This has devastated my life because I was always one to exercise regularly and now can not exercise at all. I have been doing yoga for about 6 months but have to be careful doing some of the positions. Also do any of you also burn in the anal area almost up to the tailbone? Somedays it is so bad all I want to do is go to bed. There are days I just don't leave the house and have to be careful how I sit and what kind of chair I sit in because it will aggravate the condition. I do not know what this can be from except I keep hearing from vaginal dryness. What I am wondering is when we get through meno will this clear up and I will have a better quality life. I use lubricants all the time. I also have to watch what kind of material my clothes are made of because that can also irritate the condition. Please respond anyone! I guess some of you feel as desperate as I do. This is not fun. Also it is hard to talk about to other people , but I have found this website to be helpful to get out some of the frustration about this. Gail

Hi everyone -- just have to tell you all that I've tried the triple OIL that was recommended on this site (somewhere!!!) -- it is 5 TBSP jojoba oil; 6 drops tea tree oil; german chamomile oil, 2 drops -- this has helped me IMMENSELY ....... I can't live without the stuff now.  I also have been spraying with water after urinating, and this helps as well ...... Has anyone else had good luck with this oil?

Good luck to you Gail -- I don't even know what to say .... you've been through hell and back!!!!

Terri,  What is this oil for?

Hi Pam-- not sure exactly what this oil does, but I have vulvar/anal burning and I use this about 4 to 5 or more times per day -- and whatever it's doing, helps.  It's almost like it helps to form a little barrier of sorts.  Whatever it is that is irritating me down there, this definitely helps.  I don't know what else to say.  I just figured I'd try it since it was all natural and nothing else was working.  

It's recommended by a doctor in Alpharetta, Georga who treats vulvadynia, and she recommends this.

Terri,

What happens when you stop the oils......does the burning come back or will this cure it? Are you the one that said the Estrace cream helped with this problem? I'm having a hard time remembering who says what anymore, especially going back and forth to the different boards.  I have been on the Estrace cream for about a week now and it is helping somewhat. I only use 1/2 gram. I asked the pharmacist about this and she said it should help repair the damage. I sure am hoping it will. The burning in the vulva/anal area is driving me nuts, not to mention the depression from all this. I am on HRT also but it did not relieve the burning. It relieves the hot flashes and crying and mood swings but it hasn't helped this problem. That is why I wanted to try the vaginal cream. I haven't had a period for 3 months now and I am hoping things do not get worse. I've read where some of the women have posted that when they stopped their periods that they got much worse. That is really scary! Well take care and keep posting. Have a good day.

I'm glad the oil is working for you, Terri. I'll keep it in mind in case I need it. Right now my only concern is vaginal dryness. Did I read somewhere that this doesn't last forever? That when you are through with menopause it comes back? I haven't had a period for 3 or 4 years. I'm 55... Wishful thinking!

First to Gail -- HI GAIL!  Long time no talk!  I haven't been on here much -- They STILL found a TRACE amount of yeast in my vaginal culture -- so I'm on diflucan once a week for four weeks.  I do have an Rx for Estrace cream, but I didn't start it because the gyno wants to deal with this first.

BUT I have read that the estrogen creams DO help 'toughen up the area' and I intend on trying it.  Right now, just using the oil.  YES, it does work -- but if I urinate a few times WITHOUT using it afterwards, I SURE can tell the difference.  That is why I think the estrogen cream would help -- I think I'm just 'thinning' down there or something and the oils help protect it.  Why else would it burn?  I just don't get it!!!!!!

As far as the depression goes, I'm with ya kid.  I get SO frustrated having to carry my oil to the bathroom and a water squirt bottle -- it's SO demeaning for me!  BUT, it does help, and I have to just go with it for the time being.

Another thing - - I wore jeans to work yesterday, and I could not WAIT to get the damned things off when I got home -- the rubbing was driving me NUTS.  I mean, this is CRAZY!

Anyhow, keep me posted -- you have a good day too.  Now that you mention the Estrace cream, I'm DEFINITELY going to try it.  

TAKE CARE!

Now for Pam -- Hi Pam -- are you using ANYTHING?  Any HRT?  Any estrogen creams vaginally?  The estrogen creams will definitely help with the vaginal dryness.  If you are not getting a period at all and you are 55, you should definitely consider something to help with this problem.  It's very common, and many people on the Board here have found relief with that.  

Keep us posted!  have a good day,

Thanks, Terri!  I have a progesterone cream I had ordered. I'm going to use it along with a Tri-est cream(vaginally) that they make and see what happens. I'll let you know . It'll take about a couple of months I think.

good deal, Pam -- keep us posted and let us know what happens!  Hope you get some relief!

Terri f,

Yes, jeans are definitely out for me and have been for a while. The rubbing is horrible. Now it is loose pants for me. The Estrace cream seems to be helping me. I use it vaginally at night and then a little on the vulva/anal area in the morning after showering. I seem to get through the day with just this small amount.

ONe question for you. Do you have trouble exercising now. I use to walk everyday and exercise and I can't do it anymore. Walking makes it worse. I guess the rubbing and friction. Even if I lubricate it will wear off and the skin rubs together. It is horrible not to be able to walk anymore. At least I have found that I can do yoga which is very relaxing and beneficial to the muscles.....helping to tone them and keep me flexible. But it has been like going through withdrawal not being able to exercise the way I use to because of this. I hope eventually that we all get through this bad time and the symptoms go away. It is so depressing to live like this. I don't know about you but I find it hard to talk about this particular problem(the burning) with my friends. None of them are having this problem. The only ones I can talk to are you people on this site and my best friend and my husband. You're right  it seems to be so demeaning and embarrassing. I have been asked to go to the beach and I make up some excuse because being out in the heat and walking down the beach would make it crank up and burn. I don't tell the truth about why I won't go.

I have been thinking about starting a menopause support group here in our area. I think it is greatly needed and several of my friends are interested, but finding a place is the problem. Someplace we would not have to rent. Well talk later. Keep in touch.

hi Gail -- thanks for the post .....

I am filling my Rx for the estrace cream and I will see how I do with it ..... the dr. told me to use a little vaginally and also topically, and I"m hoping that will help ... I am SO tired or dragging around my Triple Oil and water bottle I can't tell you.  Yes, the jeans thing I'm afraid is out.  I can tolerate one pair of peddle-pusher type jeans, but that's IT.  It's probably because they are so soft and don't rub like my other pants do.  I will let you know how I do on the estrace cream.  I plan on using that and trying to go down a little bit on the Triple Oil and see if that works.  Supposedly the estrogen creams help "toughen up" that area.  We'll see.

Yes, I used to work out at the gym all the time.  Since this started, I haven't been working out -- quite honestly, I'm afraid to.  It's really changed my life.  I can take walks with the dogs, but not the way I want to work out.  Used to do close to a whole hour on the treadmill at the gym-- and would sweat like a PIG -- so afraid to even TRY that now!

My husband and girlfriend at work are the only ones who know I am dealing with this.  I don't dare discuss it with anyone else.  Thank God this Board is here and I can talk on here.  I think I'd go crazy if I couldn't!!!!

As far as your support group goes, GREAT idea.  Couldn't you almost meet at a coffee shop or something?  Someone's house?  Depending upon how many people there are, that might work out all right.  I think it would be a GREAT idea.  

Keep in touch -- thanks for writing.  At least I know I'm not alone in this!!!!!

Hi Terri,

Isn't it a bummer that our lives have changed so much because of menopause....and I don't mean for the better. To think I was actually looking forward to menopause before all this started. To not having periods and not having to be concerned about getting pregnant. Wow that sure changed!

If you don't mind me asking ...how old are you? I am 52. Do you also burn down the inside of your thighs and on your feet? At first the doctor's told me it may be neuropathy, but that isn't it. The burning legs and feet only happen when I am burning in the vulva/anal area. My gyn. said that the nerves are connected somehow and that is what is causing the burning feet and legs. But I have a friend that has the burning feet, but she doesn't have the burning anywhere else. Explain that.You would think that since there are so many of us having this particular problem that the doctors would have better answers. Did your gyn. happen to tell you if using the Estrace cream would heal this or does it come back if you stop using it? You will probably notice a difference when you start using the Estrace cream....I have. I have even stopped using the Balneol I was using as a lubricant and only use the Estrace cream in the morning topically and at night vaginally. I think it is definitely helping. It is such a pain to have to use all this stuff  plus using a squirt bottle with water. I also don't do that as much either so maybe things are looking up.

The thing that is so depressing is not being able to exercise.......sounds like you and I are in the same boat. I always used to exercise everyday.....sounds like you did to. It is kind of like losing a part of myself and going through withdrawal not exercising. When ever I have tried to start back it makes things worse. Well this is getting long so I will stop now. Please let me know how the cream works for you and keep posting. Hope you get good results.

Hi Gail -- know what the worst part of this is?  I'm not even IN menopause!  You asked how old I am -- I'm 45 -- and before I went on low dose birth control pills in December I was still getting my periods like clockwork.  Went on the bc's to regulate my second day which was horrific with clots, heavy bleeding and the like.

As far as the burning goes, the only place I don't experience that on the inside of my legs/thighs, but I am experiencing something on my left foot.  The middle three toes just burn occasionally for no reason.  I notice that the skin is a little chapped, not itching, not flaking, just burning.  My husband and I were talking about it and he suggested I use some athlete's foot stuff on it ...... but I don't think that's what it is.  Sometimes when I walk too much, the soles of my feet burn also .... but not to the point where it's driving me nuts (like the burning in the vulvar/anal area!)

Yes, you would think that the doctors would have a little more knowledge on this -- we cannot be the only people in the world experiencing this stuff!

My gyn. says that the Estrace cream should help "toughen up" the area -- now I don't konw if that means when you stop it gets "un-tough" or what!  I got my Rx filled today and am going to start it tonight.  We'll see how it goes.  I'm up for anything right now.  

I get so depressed thinking that if at 45 I'm going through all this crap (excuse my French) then what the HECK am I going to be up against when I'm 50?!!!!!!  I'm scared to death to even think about it!

And yes, I used to exercise quite a bit -- now I'm afraid to rock the boat and do anything!  Even having intercourse once a week without any problems is a BIG deal for me!  JEESH!  Never though I would have to say that.

This is the last week of my diflucan (one a week for four weeks now) -- so I'm HOPING that is the end of the yeast thing.  Man, I'm so TIRED of this stuff.

Oh and get this!  I went to the breast ultrasound last week (left breast) -- what they wanted to look at from the mammogram doesn't appear to be a problem, BUT they found something else (about 1/4 inch) that needs a special magnification view -- so back to my HMO doctor it goes for a referral.  Supposed to have the cone-down mag views on July 9th I think it is.  

It just never stops .... sorry this is so long..... but thanks for listening!!!!!!

talk to you soon,your burning bud......

Hi Terri,That's funny....the part about the burning bud.....I think there might be quite a few a us who can answer to that.

The same thing happens to me when I walk too much my feet will start burning more on the soles , but also before that the vulva/anal area starts up. At first I thought it was the shoes I was wearing but found out quickly that it is not.

I know what you mean about not wanting to rock the boat. If I know something is going to make things worse I just won't do it. Why be in more pain?

I have been on HRT for about 4 yrs. and it never did help the burning. It eliminated the hot flashes and other problems pretty much but never the burning. I am hoping the cream works. Hope it works for you also.

When I find myself thinking negative thoughts.....like How can I stand this pain much longer?, I try to force myself to change my self-talk. For instance I try and say to myself that it will get better and go away and I will feel good again. That is very hard to do for me, but I am trying. My husband is a very positive person(thank goodness....don't know what I would do if both of us were negative)and he keeps telling me that it will get better. Bless his heart......don't know if he really believes what he is telling me or if he is just saying it for my benefit.

I am sorry about your breast ultrasound, but hopefully it is nothing. I have been through that also. It is very scary. Now when I get a mammogram, my husband goes with me since they tell me at the time of the appointment if they find anything. I start with the high anxiety a few months before I even go for the mammogram which is not a positive attitude, but that is just the way I am. I wish it would all go away.

Hope everything goes well for you and we'll take later.Try to think positive.....your burning bud

I'm wondering...........would acidophilous help with burning? It's good for mucous membranes....You should take it with antibiotics to prevent yeast infections.....I've read that you can insert yogurt (the kind from the health food store). I would try that. I've taken it in the past and as a matter of fact, i think I'll take it again. Hope this helps.

Hi Pam -- I take lacto-acidolphilus EVERY day (3 a day).  I've also tried the plain yogurt suppositories -- hasn't really worked in the past.  I think I got rid of ONE infection that way.  I'm on my fourth week of diflucan -- next week will be the test when I don't take them anymore.  We'll see what happens!

Thanks for the suggestions!

Hi Gail -- Yes, you are my BURNING BUD -- I don't think anyone else can understand this (lucky pups!)

Started the estrace cream -- for the first couple of days, it was kinda burning me -- but now it's not.  I "think" I might be seeing a "slight" difference ..... but I know it takes like 6 weeks to really tell.  I use 1 gram vaginally at bedtime, and topically in the AM and PM -- inbetween the water spray, when I start buring mid day, I'm using the Triple OIl stuff .... so far so good -- it's bearable at least!!!!

I know what you mean about being positive -- that's half the battle.  I'm REALLY working on this, and my second hubby (we've been married 4 years now), thank GOD he's so supportive too.  He really must love me to put up with this!  LOL

I'm sure that the breast thing will be fine -- I just have to make sure it's nothing.  My app't is July 9th -- MORE waiting unfortunately!

Well, hang in there and keep me posted on how you're doing.  I'm just kinda curious why in PERIMENOPAUSE I'm going through such a time .... usually this stuff happens with MENOPAUSE doesn't it????

stay well-hugs,your burning bud.....

Hi Terri,

I hope you will see improvement. I have been on the Estrace since June 13.......not too long. 1 gram in p.m., topically in the a.m., but just a small amount in a.m.( very small). Today my husband and I were gone all day on business and guess what?...........had no burning and felt pretty good. I didn't even use the spray water or use any lubricant except the Estrace in a.m. before going out. I was worrying that I would start burning in the afternoon and would have to go home, but I didn't . But this is just one day. I hope I continue to see improvement . I think you will too. Maybe we have hit upon something that will help us. Oh how I hope so!I try not to think about what happens when I stop the Estrace cream. Have to think positive!

I started having symptoms way before my periods stopped. I guess it was perimenopause. I started seeing changes around 40 yrs. but nothing drastic and no pain like I have the past 4 yrs. Like I said I have not had a period for 3 months now and hope I never will again. I won't miss them at all.

July 1st I start on the Provera for 12 days but when I get through with those this month I am going to stop all hormones for a week, except for the Estrace cream, and see what happens. Maybe I don't need the oral hormones although 4 yrs. ago before I ever started hormones, my teeth became loose and my hair fell out and I could not eat .......I lost about 20-25 lbs. in a little over a month because of lack of estrogen. When I started on HRT my teeth got OK and my hair returned and I could eat again. I lost muscle also. I was going to be put in the hospital if things did not change soon. I think taking the estrogen saved me. I am sort of afraid to go off of it, but I am going to try and see what happens.

Well you hang in there and we will talk later.

Hi Gail -- WELL, WELL, WELL -- good news on the Estrace front my dear!  No water bottle?  Out all day today on business?  Sounds good to me!  I just started mine Monday evening, but believe it or not, I lasted from yesterday evening till around 11am this morning with just using the Estrace (just like you, 1 gr @ bedtime plus a teeny bit topically, and also topically in the AM).  The only reason I even used my Triple Oil was because I was afraid I would start burning!

MAYBE we are onto something.  I sure hope so.  

You haven't had a period for 3 months?  Sounds GREAT to me -- I'm afraid I'm a ways off from that though -- but sounds like you are definitely getting there.

Keep up the great work -- glad you got that estrogen thing straightened out -- sounds like you were really ill!  Poor thing!

STAY WELL,your burning bud

Terri,

Sounds like you are making progress also. Now the question is...............how long do we remain on the Estrace. Oh well at least for now the burning is better so why question it now. I'll just keep using it until I see my doctor. Glad you are seeing some improvement!Hope you have a good weekend!

It's funny that I tried 2 other estrogen creams and they did not work..Premarin and Ogen. That just goes to show that it is a trial and error thing.

Gail -- just have to share .... this is amazing but I went ALL DAY YESTERDAY without my Triple Oil -- and I think only used water once or twice!  This is truly a remarkable thing for me ....... and I wasn't uncomfortable ...... if I've made this much progress in less than a week, there really must be something to this, eh?

I am going to stay on it for a while .... and then I might taper off and do every other day or something vaginally and topically in the morning and evenings .... but that isn't an option right now -- feeling too good to mess around.  Haven't felt like this for AGES.  I'm so jazzed!

Keep me posted from your end ... shall we buy stock now or later in Estrace?

hugs,your burning bud

Hi Terri,

I am so glad you are getting some relief as I am also. The other morning though I did not apply the Estrace after I showered and after about an hr. I had to go apply it because I could feel the burning starting up. I guess it was just too soon to stop in the a.m. It has definitely helped me to use the Estrace, so I will continue and see what happens.

I guess I am not as up as I usually am today. I think things are starting to get to me. Probably just too much stress all at once. And then too worrying about the hormonal problems. Plus today I started on the progesterone for the next 12 days so I know I won't be feeling good as each day passes on this stuff. Oh well I know I have to hang in there. That is what I try and tell myself. You have a good day and so happy you are feeling better. Your burning bud,

Hi Gail -- sorry to hear you're down today -- I had kinda a rough yesterday myself.  I have gone, though, THREE FULL DAYS without my water or triple oil -- certainly can't believe that a week on Estrace can make a difference!

NOW will come the true test -- I finished my four weeks of diflucan .... (but now I'm terrified to let my husband near me for fear I'll get another yeast infection!)  I know what you mean about it all "getting to you".  I have good days and bad -- just very thankful I have an understanding husband.

So am I right in assuming you are only on the progesterone now?  Is that a bioidentical progesterone or a synthetic?  I'm reading two books right now, and it appears that the bioidentical hormones are lots better ..... I'm just touching the surface with all this stuff.  It's SO confusing!

Well, feel better, chin up -- we're allowed a bad day now and again -- and keep in touch, okay?  

your burning bud (but not as bad!  LOL)

Hi Terri,

That's great that you have gone 3 days without using water and oil. To some people that sounds like such a short time but for us it is almost like a miracle(I'm sure you know what I mean...at times just 1 day is a miracle)

I understand what you mean about not wanting your husband near you. For the past 4 yrs. I have felt that way myself, but like you I have an understanding husband.thank goodness. Where would we be if we did not have them? Mine is so supportive of me and of the rough times.

No I am not just on progesterone. I take 1mg. of Estrace pill daily and then I go on the progesterone for the first 12 days of the month which up until 3 months ago would bring on my period the 13th day of the month, but like I said the last 3 months I haven't had one. I just hope things are O.K. I think they are because my cousins also did this. They just stopped getting their periods even though they were on the hormones. The only difference in them is that they did not have any of this burning and dryness. They seem to be doing fine. They are 3 yrs. older than I am. I think when I finish the progesterone for this month I am going to stop the Estrace pill also and see what happens, but I will continue the Estrace cream. I am wondering if things will get worse......it frightens me that they could.

I don't know much about compounding hormones. Mine are synthetic. ...I guess. It is all so confusing isn't it? All I know is that I don't like feeling the way I do and wish this would all end.

I think also that the rain here that we have been having everyday for the past 3 wks. is getting to me. It is so depressing. I have fibromyalgia and the humidity and rain make the body hurt worse. I probably should not be living in this climate. ( southwest FL.) Where is the sunshine? And I was born here. Probably another reason is that it is hurricane season and that is never a good time for me. Anxiety time!!!!! Never have gotten use to those hurricanes. Well I seem to be rambling on and have gotten off the subject, but I am so glad you are having better results. Keep in touch.......your burning bud!!!!!!

Terri f,

Hi! Gail here! I was wondering how you were doing on the EStrace cream. I am doing pretty good so far. Had a good July 4th weekend. My daughters birthday was the 7th so had a get together yesterday. Hope your weekend was also good and you are feeling well. Talk later .

Have any of you tried Don quai ? My sister is a nurse and she told me to try it if I develop any problems with vaginal drying. I also think the acidopholis tablets might help. I luckily don't have this problem yet, but plan to be prepared if and when I do ! It sounds terrible ! I feel really bad for you all.

Hugs,Suzie

Yes, I have tried so many over the counter remedies and health food remedies. I have  shelves full of these things and nothing has helped me except the Estrace and Balneol.  Thanks for the suggestions though.

Hi Gail -- I would like to write personally to you -- would you mind giving me your e-mail address?  Mine is BearLander@aol.com

thanks,

I haven't, but it's one of the many helpful ideas that Dearest has compiled for us on the Power Surge Recommendations Page and Dong Quai helps many women.

Hi Terri, I sometimes drop into this board to see what is going on, and do sympathise, you seem to have had such problems.Hope it is all going well now anyway.I am just butting in here to say that you and Gail should definately mail each other, you seem to be good friends already, so you should!!(Why doesn't that woman butt out and mind her own business, you are probably thinking )

Terri f,

Hi,

I e-mailed my address to you. I will see if I hear from you shortly to see if you received it, but thought i would let you know on this site in case you don't . That is fine to e-mail me personally. Look forward to hearing from you. Let me know if you did not receive my e-mail and I will try again. Hope you are feeling OK.

Gemini,

No I don't mind anyone "butting in". The more help and suggestions the better. I am sure the others feel the same way.

Hi Beth -- you are NOT butting in ..... it's so wonderful to have sometone to vent and complain to -- unfortunately Gail and I seem to have a lot of the same issues!  At least I feel like I'm not going NUTS!!!!  

Good suggestion about the e-mailing each other -- gonna give it a try!  

Have a good one,

Does anyone have a source for the Triple Oil?  I don't have access to a store that sells the 3 different oils, so I was wondering if there's someplace on the internet that would sell the oils already combined.  Thanks.

Hi Andy -- unless I'm mistaken, I know of nowhere that sells the three oils combined.  Everyone I've heard mention it on this Board buys the ingredients separately and makes it themselves.   The only one I had a problem getting was the German Chamomile Oil -- and there was a place on the internet that had a very small amount.  The jojoba oil and tea tree oil I found at the drug store and health food store!  

Good luck

Hey, I bet that's an idea for a business for someone, don't you?! If the triple oil can be so effective, I bet there would be a market for it if it could be produced.Hope you're all doing ok.

Madalon,

I noticed the last time you posted here was in May. You were having the burning vagina and burning down the legs and on the feet (same as I have for the past 5 years). I was hoping that you would check this site again and respond if you found out what was causing the burning. I asked Dearest to e-mail you which she did but not response. Maybe you found out what caused the burning and did not come back to post on this site. If you check in please let me know if your burning went away. I have been to numerous Gyn. and have gotten no answers. I use estrogen cream and Balneol for the burning.  Hoping you get this message. Or anyone else who has this problem and found out what was wrong.

Thank goodness this is another symptom of post meno - I've just started on estrogen suppositories and the burning is even worse for about a good half hour or so  - iIm just about besides myself with it. however, it settles down but I get a heavy dischange and am hoping its just from the suppositories and will settle down?? I wish I had more time to talk to y doctor about these things but with an allotted amount of time and the costs 9we don't gave med insurance to cover these visits), its so expensive. The burning is lower in the vagina/vulva area and is very intense. I used to get severe cramps down my legs when I was having periods, but this burning pain is somethig quite different.

Rosered,

How long have you had the burning? Does your doctor think it is lack of estrogen? I guess that is what it is for me. I get very dry and then start burning and it is very intense. I have to use Estrace cream everyday in the am and pm. I am hoping that eventually it will go away. I certainly don't want to have to live with this kind of pain for the rest of my life. It has affected everything I do. How about you? I even had to give up exercising because of it. Gail

Hi there, I've had this for a couple of years now on and off so have just started on the estrogen suppossitories which gave me intense pain but is lessening - though it does give an awful discharge - like a period with no bleeding - yuk. My doctor says its because the estrogen levels are low and haven't evened out yet  - I get bad night sweats, hot flushes plus the delight of anxiety/panic/agoraphobia to go along with it!! i'm on med for those too and hoping they'll work. Ain't it grand!! Like you, I hate the burning sensation and i'm now about 20 months since my last period so how long it will last i don't know. Fingers crossed that these swork - even if they are messy. I do find to that I'm getting a bit of camping like ovulation pain more than period pain and have had spotting but that has stopped.  Glad I found these forums - I feel more at ease here than with my doctor.

What kind of estrogen suppositories are these? I have not tried these. The Estrace cream works well for me but when I don't use it the burning is right there again.Also do you use any other HRT. I notice that when I am on the HRT is does help with this burning and it does eliminate the hot flashes. I just don't like being on hormones, but the quality of life is so miserable without them. Gail

Hi there, the suppossitories I'm using are called Ovestin (sp?0 which as estrogen suppositores. i don't take any other HRT as i have aprior istory of hormonal migraines (now gone thankfully - one good thing) and my doctor is not in favour of HRT in light of the new findings. I find the suppossitories rather messy but I assume they're doing their work and will go down to just two a week in another week which should be better. i do find I get the burning after using them but duing the day, its fine so fingers crossed!! I don't know whether they're meant to be a long term thing either -i forgot to ask at the time but do have repeat prescriptions for another couple of months. The discharge is a bit like a yeast infection but I'm assumingi t's not and hopefully it will clear up. is this normal with creams or suppossitories??  i don't feel like i want to spend more money on another consultation to ask these questions - and there were no pamphlets included !!!  

Wouldn't it be just wonderful to be one of those rare women who say "I had no problems at all with menopause' -lolololol - either they've got short memories or they're lying???

Or, perhaps, they might be one of those fortunate women who, indeed, do not have any problems with menopause.  

Rosered,

You might want to ask a pharmacist if the discharge is normal when using that type of suppository. He would know. I often ask the pharmacist questions....they seem to be able to answer better than a doctor sometimes. I know I would have a discharge after using Premarin vaginal cream the next day and it was messy, but with the one I use now (Estrace cream) I don't have one. It works better for me.

Yes, wouldn't it be nice to be a woman who had no problems going through meno. Haven't met one yet! LOL  Good Luck Gail

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Dearest