Chriscarol---sorry your son is pushing those buttons. We've had times like that in our house too. I guess my luck comes from the fact that their dad is a little overbearing--not bad, but he's the anxious type who's always on the edge of his seat about them and demands alot and can overreact to situations, that is till mom calms him down. That, I can tell you, has been a tough job for me. I have had to be the 'sane' one when I am feeling anything but sane. However the perks of this job is that in comparison, I end up looking like the 'good' parent, the advocate for the boys.

I say that with all respect for their dad, and I always handle it in a way that shows respect for him and teach them respect, but they know....they see....

And they appreciate, especailly as they mature. So, I'm lucky there. Hubby can't help being who he is, but I think HE and the boys will be better off and happy when they are BOTH away at college and hubby and I can relax and see them when they visit. Hubby has not handled parenting well. If you knew his horrific parents, you could see why. They are the type that LOOK good to the world, but there;s a whole heck of a lot of dysfunction writhing around under the surface. His mother alone could have screwed up Ghandi if she'd raised him.

So, I celebrate (to a certain extent) the fact that my boys are going out into the world and getting their freedom from us and being their own men. I've seen it's good for my oldest.
I am also thinking of volunteering at the kids old school and some other places when DS#2 goes off to college, like you chris. I have always done things at their school anyway, but I'm hoping the littler kids can feel fun again.
This is this son's first girlfriend. He is also very cute and tall and played football and we couldn't figure out why he didn't date much in HS. He didn't do prom or anything. Maybe your son just has to meet the right girl. This kid of ours has been SO shy up till now!