Dearest
Mar 2 2003, 08:09 PM
Well, I'll tell you, I've lived with enough anxiety.
Why don't we share ideas about anything we can do / have done to alleviate some of the horrific anxiety so many of us are experiencing due to 1) menopause, 2) the very unstable state of the world, 3) the economy, 4) personal problems, and 5) all of the above.
This afternoon, I watched PBS' "Rhythm, Love And Soul" and it was wonderful. When I started watching, I was feeling very anxious. The music brought back wonderful memories. You couldn't possibly sit for long without getting up and dancing. The dancing helped me on a high anxiety day.
With my arthritic legs / feet / knees, I'm going to force myself to put on some upbeat music every day and move to the beat. That's one way I'm going to work on my anxiety levels.
And you?
Dearest
Addendum: For those looking for more serious topics regarding anxiety, there's a slew of them in the Anxiety Forum
Slim
Mar 2 2003, 09:31 PM
Dearest that sounds like a good idea. So far I havent found anything that works. Thats why I'm out here everyday looking for something that works. I am trying meditation and breathing right now. I find it very hard to still my mind. But I'll keep working at it. I think I'll also try dancing that sounds great. I love music. I'm a fan of 50's music. Am I giving my age away?/ Exercise is suppose to be good for anxiety and dancing sounds like the most fun to me. I also have arthritis in my feet, and my hips hurt alot. But maybe thats what I need. I think I could handle a lot if the anxiety and panic would go away.
Pudge
Mar 2 2003, 09:40 PM
Dancing is a great way to get rid of anxiety. My husband is in a band and when I am out there dancing where is my ANXIETY??????? GONE.......lolIt really helps.......I love music and I love to dance ...that always works for me. but I am dying to hear more suggestions.Pudge
MaryO
Mar 2 2003, 09:55 PM
I try to avoid TV (and radio) news whenever possible, with all their scare tactics, showing images of the most gruesome sort, endlessly repeating them. Seems like TV news is trying to be as sensational as possible, building hype wherever possible, and that raises my anxiety levels way over the top.
So, I get my news by reading it slowly and thoughtfully, where I'm not bombarded by sights and sounds and "analysts" who don't really know much more about anything that we do, but like to guess publically about situations.
I know what I need to know, so don't get myself in too much of an anxious situation. I'm a worrier in general, and anything I can do to keep the levels down is very helpful. Medically speaking, I'm supposed to avoid stress. That's certainly laughable in this day and era. I don't know of any way to live stress-free without becoming a total hermit(ess?)
Some things I find helpful are bubble baths, soothing (or fun!) music to listen to, or to play on the piano, an online chat
, a glass of wine every now and then. Sometimes, just reading a good book or magazine will help get me out of an anxious mood, because it helps me to forget temporarily what's going on.
Audio tapes and relaxing CDs are helpful and calming, too, some body lotions, anything just to keep me feeling as anxiety-free as possible.
Massages work wonders for many people 
Even though I'm by nature a shy person, I feel better when I connect with someone else, either in person or on the phone. Sometimes, looking through ecards makes me feel better - just looking at them and choosing one to send - and maybe I'll get one back!
I'm sorry that you had a high anxiety day, Dearest. I know that they come sometimes, even if we do our best to avoid them. I'm glad that the dancing helped you
Kyrarose
Mar 2 2003, 10:33 PM
I was wondering if you have tried Xanax to help with anxiety. I am having anxiety and panic attacks with my periods which have been coming lately 15 days apart. Thanks for listening. Barb
Dearest
Mar 2 2003, 10:52 PM
Yes, I have Xanax, but what I'd like us to do in this topic is to explore other (or additional) ways of warding off anxiety -- finding methods of reducing it and coping with it better. I've always known that exercise helped even when in the throes of an anxiety or panic attack. Going into a good workout even for 10 minutes can stop anxiety dead in its tracks.
We all know medications are available, but in here I'd like everyone to share some suggestions as to what other more natural methods they have used to relax. . I'm not suggesting people stop their medications, but am interested in a more holistic approach -- exploring things like the dancing I mentioned, like some of Mary's suggestions.
Some others I can think of are affirmations -- using affirmations every day to empower you, using aromatherapy for relaxation, Reiki, reflexology, meditation, yoga, tapes, videos, going for a walk, swimming -- anything you've found helpful in treating your anxiety.
Dearest
MaryO
Mar 2 2003, 11:23 PM
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Some others I can think of are affirmations -- using affirmations every day to empower you, using aromatherapy for relaxation, Reiki, reflexology, meditation, yoga, tapes, videos, going for a walk, swimming -- anything you've found helpful in treating your anxiety.
I know I posted in here before but...now that you mention these, I have some favorite videos - usually comedies or musicals - that I've watched maybe hundreds of times. I guess it's like the kids that can watch the same episode of Thomas the Tank Engine over and over, or whatever is popular now. Maybe because they're so predictable that I know the dialog by heart - it doesn't matter. They're soothing and calming to me and I can get lost in them.
Sometimes, I like to go watch the flash intro to this site again ( http://www.power-surge.com and click the "Enter" button) or go listen to Dearest speaking in her calm voice on the What is Power Surge? page.
When I'm feeling really anxious, sometimes favorite foods help take me back to a less-stressful childhood. Meatloaf is a favorite for that - and I'm mostly a vegetarian now!
IreneCrites
Mar 3 2003, 01:07 AM
Dearest what a great topic. I am currently taking Bronwyn Fox's Online anxiety recovery program to work on my anxiety. Last night I went to a Jack & Jill shower with my husband and much of my family was there and there was live music and dancing and I had absolutely no anxiety. So yes music helps me alot too. I am doing mindfulness meditation and feel it is helping alot. And like Mary I am monitoring how much news I take in at onetime. Coming here to Power Surge is very helpful for me as when I read a post and then try to help with a reply it takes the focus off of myself. I use daily positive affirmations and do self Reiki. Once a week have a reflexology session. Thats what I'm doing for my anxiety issues and if need be I take my prescribed Tranxene. Dearest I am sorry you had a high anxiety day and very glad the music helped.
Dearest
Mar 3 2003, 08:07 AM
Glad to hear that another Power Surge recommendation is working.
I have posted this before, but it's very userful information.
A couple of years ago, a woman who frequented Power Surge and suffered from severe panic attacks brought Bronwyn Fox to my attention. She's done amazing things helping people with anxiety and panic attacks. She, too, suffered with severe panic attacks until she cured herself.
I've participated twice in her very effective and successful six week online Mindfulness Panic Anxiety Management Program and she's excellent. It's more than most ever get from a therapist over a period of months. She spends two hours each week with you for six weeks and I've gotten more out of those six weeks and 12 hours than any books, tapes, you name it.
Bronwyn's last guest transcript can be read by clicking here. Bronwyn is also Power Surge's Anxiety and Panic Expert. Feel free to ask her anything you like in her area on the site. You'll also find a link to her Web site there.
Bronwyn will be returning as a guest in Power Surge on Thursday, March 20, 2003 at 9 PM, ET in Power Surge Live!
Dearest
MrsUnderstood
Mar 3 2003, 10:19 AM
Others have already listed many techniques I have also found useful. I've used many techniques to handle anxiety so will add a few. Progressive muscle relaxation, visual imagery relaxation(involves imagining yourself in a place you enjoy--the mind is very powerful and thinking can sometimes be as good as going to the place), and deep abdominal breathing are probably the 3 techniques I use most frequently. I have written a list of 'everything' that is bothering me, then looked at what I could change and what I could not change. Realizing that when we get anxious we tend to let the little things and the big things become intermixed was very motivating for me to do the hard work of learning to let go of what I could not change. Taking care of my physical well-being by sleeping and eating properly, staying hydrated, giving up perfectionism, allowing others to help me or do for themselves, trying to keep as much of a routine as is possible seem to help me. Reading books about people whose problems are far bigger than mine give me courage to face the unknowns of life. ~Helen
CindyCO
Mar 3 2003, 10:19 AM
I've decided that laughter really is the best medicine. I am looking for books with a humorous approach to menopause. I find that my mind is too active or busy to be able to meditate. I still try but distraction works best for me. I only watch comedies on TV or read. I am trying mild exercise (walking on nice days) as the last time I tried exercising I had a panic attack (my first) that night. Connection? I don't know but I'm not willing at this time to test the theory. I do take Zoloft and Xanax (as needed) and am on HRT which I don't like but feeling normal is more important to me right now. My NP assures me this will be short term (I hope). I also have a friend I talk to who is going through it also and we manage to find the humor in this absurd adventure which helps a lot also. I've also read Dr. Weekes "Hope and Help for Your Nerves." I'm now more capable of talking the anxiety down most times. But this is hormonally related as I can tell the difference now. Even on HRT my levels are still a roller coaster and I can tell when my estrogen is down. I try to stay calm (easier said than done) and I will admit that I pop a Xanax (.5 tab) if it gets to be too much. I still have young children at home and cannot afford to be off kilter. I also have a good support system. My hubby is home now (disabled) but is able to take over if I'm overwhelmed, and my friends and family are very supportive and helpful. Becoming more educated on what's happening to me I think has made a difference as well. And I take each day at a time on its own.
debrikkia
Mar 3 2003, 11:25 AM
This may sound a little dramatic for some, but it works for me. When feeling anxious or overwhelmed, I turn the ringers off on the phones, light some lavendar or nag champa incense, and put on soothing ocean-type music---the kind that sounds like waves crashing down, and then gently creeping back. (Instrumental) Then I lay down perfectly still and begin (silently) "talking" to my body, telling each body part to relax and release. I start at the top of my head moving down, and imagine all stress, toxins etc., finally exiting through the bottom of my feet. After that, I let the music "sink in", and I imagine myself in the most wonderful, soothing place in the world. (For me, of course, it's white sand, warm torquoise water, palm trees and a warm breeze) I lay perfectly still until I can't even feel my body. I can actuallly feel and see myself swimming with the dolphin, feel the water on my skin. I admit that I have a vivid imagination, and an ability to get all my senses involved. But, it works, and any of you can use the technique, but vary the surroundings according to your own pleasures. Most times I only do this for about 15 minutes---unless I "get lost"--Lol. Unfortunately, I don't do this often enough.
A great topic, Dearest. We needed this! The rest of the anxiety board has alot of info, trial and errors in regard to prescribed drugs, which is necessary---but this is a great way to share things that we all can do for ourselves at home! I've read some good ideas here--keep sharing, everyone! (Music, dancing is a HUGE thing for me too)Deb
Texwoman
Mar 3 2003, 12:10 PM
lDeb: I've done that too! It's great, but sometimes I don't want to go all the way. It's easy for me to just turn everything off and lay down in silence and do some deep breathing.
I also love music and singing outloud can lift me. I've enjoyed reading this thread. Everyone has great ways of coping.
When anxiety is extreme or overwhelming, I find looking at the past week helps me identify what has been nagging at my mind the most. Then deciding to take a break from it and let it go. I tell myself "this is unhealthy for me" and actually order myself to let it go. If not permanently, I can let it go for a day or two and give my brain a chance to rest! In fact, sometimes I do that all day long, just taking small breaks.
paulinep
Mar 3 2003, 01:31 PM
Thanks Dearest for this post. When i can feel myself getting really panicky and my mind starts racing i have 4 drops of Rescue Remedy and hope the computer's free and come on this site it really take's my mind of it and before you no it i'm alot calmer. If cannot get on computer have (3 grown up children at home) so we are alway's frighting to get on. I also love music a tip that was given to me is to make a tape of all your favorite song's upbeat one's if possible and when feeling anxious to put it on and it help's to distract your mind especially if your singing along as loud as you can.
Take carePauline
Nanshh
Mar 3 2003, 02:34 PM
Hello all this may sound silly but I find this helps me during bad anxiety times. I get out the grandaughter's color books and color the pictures. It doesn't take long for me to calm down.
Kyrarose
Mar 3 2003, 07:47 PM
Thank you all for your suggestions. I had a terrible day yesterday and am feeling much better today. I am so glad for the bad day because I found this site. I have also been doing accupuncture to try to help me through menopause and panic attacks. My Gyn solution was to go on birth control bills. I think with the suggestions from all of you and some work at it I can do this without chemcials - I have just started taking Remifemin ( black cohosh) and am hoping that helps with the menopause symptoms. Has anyone else tried black cohosh I have read that it works much like HRT and is very calming but takes at least two weeks or longer to kick in. Any way thanks for all the suggestions and I am going to start right now using some of them including the web site for panic management. I will be visiting power surge often - Thanks so much!!! Barbara
tinabrul
Mar 3 2003, 09:35 PM
First, I admit that I am feeling anxiety. I try to briefly think what might have triggered it and if I come up with something I ask myself what is the appropriate response to the trigger. Then I drink tea (decaf tension tamer or easy now tea) or lots and lots of water to flush out the anxiety cooties....Of course loving on my dogs and cats also helps to calm me down...and a shower, or decluttering a draw or closet so I feel like I accomplished something (always good for a boost)If all else fails, .5 mg klonipin.
debrikkia
Mar 3 2003, 10:50 PM
Nanshh--I can't tell you how much it meant to me to read your post! I moved 3,000 miles away from my grandchildren, although we still keep in very close touch. I have coloring books, as do they, and we exchange colored pictures through the mail. It does work wonders--takes your mind off the rest of the world for a bit, huh?Deb
Nanshh
Mar 4 2003, 01:53 PM
Debrikkia So glad to hear someone else finds coloring relaxing. Now when I look for color books for the grandkids I pick out ones with pictures I like,lol Nan
Dearest
Mar 4 2003, 07:08 PM
Hahaha! Imagine a gramma and a little grandchild arguing over the crayons :biggrin: I used to love playing with my grandson's toys -- grandchilden have a way of bringing out our own inner child and their very innocence and sweetness helps to relieve our own anxiety. I loved playing with all my grandson's toys. Of course, of course, I was just teaching HIM how they worked (yeah, right) :biggrin:
Dearest
Dearest
Mar 4 2003, 07:13 PM
Another remedy for anxiety is always shopping, no?

Dearest
Kleeo
Mar 4 2003, 07:33 PM
YES YES Dearest! I can't think of a better way to cope with anxiety! SHOP.......ah, maybe that's what I need to do...to heck with leaving the income tax return in the bank! ;)HUGGERS! Kleeo
leanne0721
Mar 4 2003, 07:37 PM
Dancing works for me also, but working in an office, sometimes that's impossible (although one day I did it anyway and got a standing ovation from my co-workers LOL)- so I'll power walk around the building- it only takes about 10 minutes and that usually gets it under control. I try to see anxiety as energy that needs to be burned immediately. So when I feel anxious- it's burn, baby burn! At night if I feel anxious I'll just lay on my bed, and lift my legs up and pretend I'm peddling a bike in the air. Sounds crazy- but it works for me!
debrikkia
Mar 5 2003, 01:46 AM
SHOPPING! Yes! I got my hair cut today, and while on a wild note, went and bought a new hair color--it's called Midnight Ruby--an auburn black! I'n going to dare to insist that my roots become the same color as the rest of my hair that hasn't turned gray yet! I'll let you know what happens! Shopping works!Deb
Dearest
Mar 5 2003, 05:53 AM
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Quote: from tinabrul on 8:35 pm on Mar. 3, 2003[br]First, I admit that I am feeling anxiety. I try to briefly think what might have triggered it and if I come up with something I ask myself what is the appropriate response to the trigger. Then I drink tea (decaf tension tamer or easy now tea) or lots and lots of water to flush out the anxiety cooties....Of course loving on my dogs and cats also helps to calm me down...and a shower, or decluttering a draw or closet so I feel like I accomplished something (always good for a boost)If all else fails, .5 mg klonipin.
Everyone's suggestions are great. I would, however, be careful about using the word "trigger" when you're thinking about WHO or WHAT might have set off the anxiety :biggrin: In all seriousness, I know it's a therapeutic and very workable process, but sometimes, when one's anxiety levels are high, it might be more helpful not to examine too much. That's just my feeling.
What especially caught my eye about your message, tinabrul, is the last line --"If all else fails, .5 mg klonipin."
Don't you all think too many of us work in reverse? Hasn't our society become so drug-oriented, that the first thing we do is look for a "pill" to resolve our problems? Dearest
Dearest
Mar 5 2003, 06:17 AM
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Quote: from Kleeo on 6:33 pm on Mar. 4, 2003[br]YES YES Dearest! I can't think of a better way to cope with anxiety! SHOP.......ah, maybe that's what I need to do...to heck with leaving the income tax return in the bank! ;)HUGGERS! Kleeo
Kleeo, do people really do income tax returns in March? Boy, if anything brings on major anxiety, it's doing taxes! You ARE ambitious and organized. I hate doing my income tax so much, it takes me one or two extensions and often up until the 11th hour to get all my "stuff" together. Besides, we have until December to do our taxes and, frankly, other than illness, I can't think of anything more stressful.
At the same time, I've noticed as I get older, I've become more of a procrastinator and putting off doing my taxes is part of the big picture.
Has anyone else noticed she's become a real procrastinator as the years creep up?
Dearest
Dearest
Mar 5 2003, 06:29 AM
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Quote: from debrikkia on 12:46 am on Mar. 5, 2003[br]SHOPPING! Yes! I got my hair cut today, and while on a wild note, went and bought a new hair color--it's called Midnight Ruby--an auburn black! I'n going to dare to insist that my roots become the same color as the rest of my hair that hasn't turned gray yet! I'll let you know what happens! Shopping works!Deb
OoOoOoOoh, Midnight Ruby. Sounds decadent. Great ideas --a haircut, a color change -- maybe even a pedicure, manicure and massage.
I have a very specific color in mind for my hair -- it's a medium to deep brown with just a hint of auburn, but I haven't been very successful in getting it out of a L'Oreal, Clairol, Feria, Herbal Essence or any of those products because my hair picks up too much red. I end up having to use a medium ash brown. I may have to resort to going to a beauty salon to get the exact color I want, but after years of cutting my own hair and coloring it for the past 3-4 years, I prefer doing it myself. I notice as the grays start multiplying, it's becoming more difficult to cover them properly without them picking up the natural red highlights. Also, I'm sure we all have "beauty salon nightmare stories" and mine once turning carrot red was more than I could bear, while the colorist and other operators in the salon were raving how beautiful it looked. I wanted to suggest they all get their eyes checked.
Any suggestions from hair color aficianados would be most appreciated.
Dearest
Postbud
Mar 5 2003, 09:23 AM
As I look back on some of my worst bouts with anxiety I have found that it took really being diligent about taking care of myself on a daily basis. I would start my day with a relaxation tape, then a long walk with my dog sometimes listening to self help tapes, inspirational tapes, watching what I ate (no sugar or caffeine),drinking plenty of water, and really working on thinking in positive terms instead of negative terms. All these things would help me in the long run, but when I need that quick fix I get busy doing something, move the furniture, gardening,wash windows, anything that makes me use up some of the anxiety I'm feeling and takes my mind in another direction. The one thing that has helped me the most is finally after so many years of silent suffering is I have come here and found all of you and now realize that anxiety is nothing to be ashamed of . Thanks for sharing. Postbud
leanne0721
Mar 5 2003, 04:47 PM
Well said, Postbud! Ditto!
Pudge
Mar 5 2003, 05:59 PM
I agree that there are so many things to do to help alleviate the anixety. Eating right, exercising and getting enough rest. But sometimes when that anxiety hits and you are somewhere where you have to have your wits about you (like at work) the solution is to pop a pill..........I always do that as the last resort but sometimes it is necessary.Pudge
MaryO
Mar 5 2003, 06:43 PM
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Has anyone else noticed she's become a real procrastinator as the years creep up?
YES! I even put off responding to this post - no reason, but I decided to do it "later".
About those taxes that Kleeo mentioned - we finally did ours in early Feb...for 2001!
I went to get my regular haircolor today...and the store didn't have any, didn't even have a spot for it. I hope that this doesn't mean that they're discontinuing my color - again. Deb, your Midnight Ruby sounds great, but I don't think that I could go quite that far!
I love all your ideas about helping quell anxiety. I think that they're all fantastic, and I'm going to make a list for next time an attack comes along.
Thanks!
Postbud
Mar 5 2003, 06:46 PM
Pudge PLEASE don't feel bad because there are times when you pop a pill as you say , everyone that has ever truly felt the devastating effects of anxiety understands that sometimes you just need it to go away quick(like when you're trying to keep your job). You almost sounded apologetic, NOT with us fellow suffers we understand. Keep working on understanding anxiety, try other ways of riding through it (such as the ones some of the other ladies have used) when you feel you can and you'd be surprised one of them just might do the trick. Hang in there! Postbud
Kleeo
Mar 5 2003, 07:43 PM
LOL!! Actually Dearest, I had my taxes done, sent in ON line, and a check in my account BEFORE January 31st! If it's money due in MY pocket, I don't waste any time getting my act together!! ;) And yes, I too am becoming a procrastinator. Especially when it's something I really don't want to do....like.........(shhhhhhhhhh!) housework??? And MaryO! I had my hair colored today, too! Must have been a 'hair' day for the Maine natives, eh? :)HUGGERS! Kleeo
debrikkia
Mar 6 2003, 11:14 AM
Well, the Midnight Ruby (Feria) turned out good--yay! I was even a little nervous about it! But, it's more like a deep brown with a hint of red when the light hits it. It actually worked well on the gray hairs too--I thought it might turn them bright red, but they picked up the brown too. Dearest, I think you and I are looking for the same hair color in the same bottles!Deb
Dearest
Mar 6 2003, 11:22 AM
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Thersea
Mar 6 2003, 03:43 PM
What wonderful suggestions! I love this. I also avoid TV news - very sensationalistic and geared to scare us all to death! Prayer is my first resort - sometimes it's just best to give the anxiety away to our Creator Who loves us so much - "Here - will you please take care of this, because I can't handle it!" Dancing is wonderful - upbeat music is definitely an anxiety reducer - I'm happy that worked for you, Dearest. I like to walk outside, enjoy the sunshine (I'm in California, so that's easy for me!) I sometimes keep some type of fragrant flower around that reminds me of happy times - plumerias when they're blooming remind me of Hawaii - a place I love. Daffodils smell like Springtime to me - very soothing. One woman shared that she turned off all the phones, etc. and visualized being by the water, relaxed her whole body and spoke to it - I don't think that's wierd at all - especially if we can't go out and walk or dance - our minds can offer tremendous relief if we can take our anxious thoughts captive. I'll admit, sometimes even these things don't work completely, especially if my hormones are raging. Vitamin B6, and calcium magnesium can be very effective to help relax - I wish you all the best, because regardless of what Oprah says, this menopausal journey is probably the most challenging and difficult time I've gone through in quite a while - though it has forced me to take better care of myself! God bless you all. Don't feel guilty taking time for yourselves - we especially need to now!
MaryO
Mar 31 2003, 12:44 AM
These days, it's hard to turn on the TV without seeing stressful news. That's where videos and DVDs can be wonderful - you can choose what you want to watch, when you want to watch it, and there's no stress (unless YOU want to watch something stressful).
I also like to watch a lot of shows from TVLand - old comedies from years ago like Mary Tyler Moore and Bob Newhart. They're from a simpler time and they bring a smile to my face as well as help to keep the stress levels down.
julianna
May 25 2003, 11:49 AM
hello all, i guess this is an old post ...still going on. I wanted to share some thing with everyone that i have used with success for 9 months for anxiety. I too have suffered with the palps, nausea, and all the other words to describe our "pain in the putixie" . I know my problem stems from a bad experience I had while traveling alone and now am afraid to go very far from home. but I have been using a natural treatment called L-5-hydroxytryptophan (L5HTP). It comes from an african bean. I have also tried two different antidepressants and a natural seratonin inhibitor (BeCalm Brand), none of those really worked, for me, and the anti depressants were the worst. But the htp, has worked the best, not all the way, but keeps the edge off, I also want to try a natural nerve calm herbal formula, a dr. I know is sending me some free samples to try. I will let you know how that goes. I am thankful, that you all have shared your experiences, I am so glad SOMEONE can understand....that in itself has helped greatly. thx for all your support.
LYNCHMOB
Jun 5 2003, 04:32 PM
To all the ladies that have ever experienced anxiety while driving--I found something that worked for me last trip I took. I was making a 12-hour trip (something I hadn't even tried in over 20 years because of my anxiety). Well, as I was driving I was hit by a panic attack. So I started singing to the song on the radio. Deep down, heartfelt singing! What I believe this did for me was cause me to breathe more deeply, and within a minute my attack was over. I have read and know from experience that improper breathing contributes to anxiety. Just thought I'd share this little tidbit. Besides, we need to keep this topic at the front of the line!
leanne0721
Jun 5 2003, 05:32 PM
Lynch- I think it was you (or maybe Debrikka) that told me to sing awhile back. Last January I had to make a 2 hour trip with my Dad and was a nervous wreck, afraid I would have a panic attack, and sure enough I did, and I sang my heart out to the radio (I Will Survive was the first song I heard!) Of course my Dad thought I lost my mind, but it did calm me down and My panic went away!!
Good Suggestion!!
chriscarol
Jun 5 2003, 09:48 PM
I agree that improper breathing contributes to anxiety.<br>Lately, I've also been asking myself it if it's worth<br>getting that upset over. Let's see, what else<br>works for me: listening to music, sex, laughter,<br>walking, reading. My teeth started chattering<br>today, then my son had me cracking up<br>impersonating that Aussie Croc. Hunter,<br>describing the characteristics of perimenopausal<br>women. I think the laughter helped me breath<br>deeply, because the adrenaline <br>diminished.
leanne0721
Jun 5 2003, 10:51 PM
Chris- On the recommended page, I think Dearest said she always keeps a brown bag in her car, and now I do the same thing. I'm sure there have been fellow drivers who wonder who the lunatic in the Honda is as I'm breathing in the bag! lol!! .....but it works. I really didnt think that breathing had a whole lot to do with calming my anxiety- until I tried it.
..........and laughter and sex do work wonders as well - LOL!!
virgomom
Jun 16 2003, 11:56 AM
Yoga
meditation
exercise. like walking or even running
laying on the floor with my dog
Hugging and talking to my teenage sons.
getting on Power surge and seeing wha everyone else is feeling and doing
watching the caffeine!
giving myself 'permission' to go on the back deck and sit with a lemonade or something
Reading
playing classical music when I'm driving, and reminding myself that 'there's no hurry'
NOT hurrying
major self-pampering.
talking to my sister---I have 3, but one is the most anxiety reducing. We are ALL in peri-menopasue, by the way.................
NOT watching too much TV, especially the news. I have found that if I hardly ever turn on the TV , I can go about chores and daily grind at a much more realxed and slower pace, and don't feel always 'behind'.
Liz51
Jun 17 2003, 05:09 AM
This is a great topic! I am always looking for a new way to reduce anxiety without medication. I keep Kava Kava handy for when my anxiety is bad, but I don't even like taking those if I don't have to.
When I feel anxiety creeping up, I keep busy - and it has to by physical. If I'm home I do some housework , or in the summer I go out and do some gardening. If I'm at work it isn't as easy, because I find it very hard to sit still at my desk when I'm feeling anxious - I have to move! Sometimes it helps to get up and move around and talk to others, but if I'm in a meeting it's hard. Deep, abdominal breathing helps in situations like that, and I try to force my mind to think of something else other than the way I feel.
This past winter I found Sundays to be the worst day. Most of my housework is done on Saturday, there isn't much on TV and it's too cold to go outside. Reading is okay, but something a little more active would help.
It's a little harder to calm yourself if you're having a panic attack. The best way is to ride it out and use positive self talk - "This is just anxiety" "I'm okay, this won't hurt me" - those types of statements. Again, deep breathing will help and get busy - use up some of that adrenalin!
Night time anxiety/panic is hard. Waking up in the night to a racing heart, tingly arms and legs and adrenalin that won't stop, is harder to deal with I think. I probably should get up and do something, but I lay in bed and do deep breathing and progressive muscle relaxation. Usually, after doing it enough times, it helps and I can get back to sleep. Some nights though - nothing works and I lie there until its time to get up. I always feel that if I'm in bed, there's a chance I'll get to sleep, but if I get up I won't get any rest.
And, thank God for computers - they are a good way to keep our minds busy and less anxious! Good luck to all of us!
(Edited by Liz51 at 5:14 am on June 17, 2003)
chriscarol
Jun 17 2003, 05:04 PM
Ugh, housework never did it for me, but my Mom<br>sure uses that to burn up anxious energy. Want<br>to come over Liz,lol. I can still worry while cleaning.<br>I do get anxious about messes getting out of<br>control. Like if the house got too bad, it would<br>mushroom into total bedlam, and I'd never<br>catch up. <br> Sometimes focusing on one particular sense,<br>say the sense of sight, and totally becoming<br>your eyes helps me. I did this today in the woods, the<br>mountain laurel was in spectacular bloom, as I<br>became one with my sense of sight. I don't know if<br>I'm explaining this well. It's very peaceful, and you<br>are so much in the moment. Of course the sound of<br>the sea is a favorite to get lost in, as well.<p>I'm being tossed off the computer!!
WhiteHorses
Jun 26 2003, 02:45 PM
It depends on how sick I am what technique I use. For an improvement on feeling really sick here's one I used. I would get a friend to take me to a natural area, say a quiet underused park. There I would walk a bit or sit and the soft sunlight, the lack of noise, the soft sounds of wind in the trees, water running and especially the birds singing would soothe me...
chriscarol
Jun 28 2003, 12:32 PM
I find watching a good stand up comedy<br>routine on video or TV helpful. "Laughter is<br>the best medicine."
fran
May 13 2004, 08:31 AM
The only sure fire way for me to relieve anxiety is to get great massage, which I do indulge in 2 times a month. I also find it is great for keeping the immune system up.. I dont care about the money spent for a massage ,,its is worth EVERY penny to me,,,, much better than going out to a restaurant (esp. for me..b/c thats where I have had many panic attacks and axiety....lol) Another guaranteed way to bring the negative thinking and worrying down is to visit with or take care of my precious grandchildren.. When you are with young children (and you know its short term

)you are truly IN the MOMENT! One other thing is in my "habit" of gargage sale shopping (not dept. store shopping as others have mentioned..that makes me more anxious with crowds of people and lines to pay). LOVE the hunt for treasures at a tag or garage sale! And lastly if all else fails I, like so many, will resort to xanax or some type of homeopathic supplement. Whatever helps!
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