michuganna
Aug 5 2009, 01:08 PM
I am going to the Dr. today and I am wondering if I could get some input from you about which AD worked best for Panic/Anxiety/Depression. I realize many respond differently to different AD. Just want to get a overall picture of perhaps which one overall has worked the best for the majority of women who are taking an AD. I have heard Effexor is a good one, however, withdrawing is difficult. Right now I am not so concerned with withdrawal as I am with getting some relief so that I can handle the things I need to do i.e. testing or whatnot as I move forward in my particular hellish journey.
Thanks all.
Mich
alinam
Aug 5 2009, 03:02 PM
QUOTE (michuganna @ Aug 5 2009, 11:08 AM)

I am going to the Dr. today and I am wondering if I could get some input from you about which AD worked best for Panic/Anxiety/Depression. I realize many respond differently to different AD. Just want to get a overall picture of perhaps which one overall has worked the best for the majority of women who are taking an AD. I have heard Effexor is a good one, however, withdrawing is difficult. Right now I am not so concerned with withdrawal as I am with getting some relief so that I can handle the things I need to do i.e. testing or whatnot as I move forward in my particular hellish journey.
Thanks all.
Mich
Currently, I'm on AD # 4 with no luck, but prozac is used fairly often for PMS and PMDD and there are several PS ladies that have mentioned they do well with celexa.
Good luck. This is really no fun.
Ang
sunnylou
Aug 5 2009, 03:43 PM
I am on Lexapro which is related to Celexa, i believe. My doctor told me that Lexapro had the least side effects. But it is not available as a generic so is rather expensive. I am considering switching to Celexa when I refill as it is cheaper and hopefully won't be too much different. I did try Cymbalta once and it was really bad for my anxiety so I would suggest staying away from it.
lizardlover42000
Aug 5 2009, 03:50 PM
i am on zoloft and i am doing great so great i don't need xanax as much. I read that zoloft and lexapro are most effective AD. Goodluck and hope whatever you choose is right for you. Be patient cause sometimes you will feel worse before better give it a chance to get in your system Terry
michuganna
Aug 5 2009, 04:33 PM
Thanks all for your input. So I may ask for Lexepro or the Zoloft. I will cross my fingers that something helps. I need to get some semblence of control so I can function and make decisions that need to be made for my health. Currently I am more and more useless. Just staying stuck like a needle in a groove of a record, going in circles with the same jargon filling my brain. I need to start getting exercise, be proactive and get out of myself. Many women go through this without resorting to hormone therapy but I want that option if I so choose. To do that I need a pelvic ultrasound which scares me, not the ultrasound, just them looking inside me. With all my fears and anxieties, I can't see the sky for the trees. If there is a power bigger than me (which I know there is) I pray he has some compassion and helps me help myself.
Anybody heard anything about Effexor??
xoxo
Mich
Floater
Aug 5 2009, 05:07 PM
Hey there, I use Paxil to help with anxiety, panic and depression. It seems to help a lot, although I didn't feel completely "normal" until I added BHRT...however I am post, not peri, which I think makes it easier to use hormones successfully.
I weaned off of Paxil once before, back in 1999 with no issues. I have cut my dosage of Paxil this round from 20 mgs a day to 10 mgs a day. I am feeling ok on the smaller dosage...no anxiety or panic anyways....I may feel a little more "down" than I did on the 20. We shall see.
For some people the ADs help so much it is amazing. They are great meds, when used correctly. Good luck, and be sure and let us know what you decided on!
alinam
Aug 6 2009, 04:39 PM
QUOTE (lizardlover42000 @ Aug 5 2009, 01:50 PM)

i am on zoloft and i am doing great so great i don't need xanax as much. I read that zoloft and lexapro are most effective AD. Goodluck and hope whatever you choose is right for you. Be patient cause sometimes you will feel worse before better give it a chance to get in your system Terry
What dose of zoloft are you on? I've been on 100mg for two weeks (after tapering up super slowly) and I'm still having terrible anxiety. I'm even having more palpitations. I'm beginning to wonder if 100 mg is too much?
Angela
little lil
Aug 6 2009, 05:46 PM
QUOTE (michuganna @ Aug 5 2009, 05:33 PM)

Thanks all for your input. So I may ask for Lexepro or the Zoloft. I will cross my fingers that something helps. I need to get some semblence of control so I can function and make decisions that need to be made for my health. Currently I am more and more useless. Just staying stuck like a needle in a groove of a record, going in circles with the same jargon filling my brain. I need to start getting exercise, be proactive and get out of myself. Many women go through this without resorting to hormone therapy but I want that option if I so choose. To do that I need a pelvic ultrasound which scares me, not the ultrasound, just them looking inside me. With all my fears and anxieties, I can't see the sky for the trees. If there is a power bigger than me (which I know there is) I pray he has some compassion and helps me help myself.
Anybody heard anything about Effexor??
xoxo
Mich
I took 1 dose mon. and had horrid sideeffects still feeling them today was in bed for 2 days with terrible dizziness increase in anxiety sweating today some symptoms gone but head feels strange and panic when driving which I never had before, but everyone is different Good Luck
alinam
Aug 6 2009, 05:54 PM
QUOTE (little lil @ Aug 6 2009, 03:46 PM)

I took 1 dose mon. and had horrid sideeffects still feeling them today was in bed for 2 days with terrible dizziness increase in anxiety sweating today some symptoms gone but head feels strange and panic when driving which I never had before, but everyone is different Good Luck
Wow, that stinks! I forgot, which AD were you trying? I'm so sorry you're having such terrible side effects. I know that's exactly what you were afraid of. Are you on HRT? Someone was saying that an antidepressant that increases serotonin would't work if you were low on estrogen. I'm not on HRT right now and I'm wondering if there's some truth to that statement.
((((((((((lil))))))))))
Angela
michuganna
Aug 6 2009, 06:57 PM
QUOTE (alinam @ Aug 6 2009, 05:54 PM)

Wow, that stinks! I forgot, which AD were you trying? I'm so sorry you're having such terrible side effects. I know that's exactly what you were afraid of. Are you on HRT? Someone was saying that an antidepressant that increases serotonin would't work if you were low on estrogen. I'm not on HRT right now and I'm wondering if there's some truth to that statement.
((((((((((lil))))))))))
Angela
Jeesh, I hope that isn't the case. I am not completely zapped of estrogen my levels aren't past the low end though they are toward to low end in the range. Though I think estrogen goes up and down if you are still cycling. My hormone Dr. says I am not ovulating, I guess cause progesterone is realllllly low. It is 3:53pm and I'm not feeling too bad, the nausea isn't so bad right now. I took Lexapro 10mg at 11:00 and I took a xanax about 2 hours ago cause I was feeling a little anxious. We'll see how I progress I'll keep you guys updated just so you know my experience on this particular AD.
Were the side effects from the the Effexor?? I think you gotta try and hang tough with these AD's to give the a good college try. Of course if you feel like you are melting down call your Dr. and get the heck off of them (but safely).
alinam
Aug 6 2009, 07:04 PM
QUOTE (michuganna @ Aug 6 2009, 04:57 PM)

Jeesh, I hope that isn't the case. I am not completely zapped of estrogen my levels aren't past the low end though they are toward to low end in the range. Though I think estrogen goes up and down if you are still cycling. My hormone Dr. says I am not ovulating, I guess cause progesterone is realllllly low. It is 3:53pm and I'm not feeling too bad, the nausea isn't so bad right now. I took Lexapro 10mg at 11:00 and I took a xanax about 2 hours ago cause I was feeling a little anxious. We'll see how I progress I'll keep you guys updated just so you know my experience on this particular AD.
Were the side effects from the the Effexor?? I think you gotta try and hang tough with these AD's to give the a good college try. Of course if you feel like you are melting down call your Dr. and get the heck off of them (but safely).
My progesterone was toward the lower end of normal, but the ultrasound showed follicles so I guess I'm still ovulating. My estrogen was just over 100 on day four of my cycle so I'm not fresh out, either. I just keep trying to make sense of what's happening to me and why the anxiety is so bad and the meds just make it worse.
I hear for most people, lexapro has very few side effects.
Hang in there.
Ang
michuganna
Aug 6 2009, 07:18 PM
QUOTE (alinam @ Aug 6 2009, 07:04 PM)

My progesterone was toward the lower end of normal, but the ultrasound showed follicles so I guess I'm still ovulating. My estrogen was just over 100 on day four of my cycle so I'm not fresh out, either. I just keep trying to make sense of what's happening to me and why the anxiety is so bad and the meds just make it worse.
I hear for most people, lexapro has very few side effects.
Hang in there.
Ang
I'm in California and not sure of where you live. My progesterone is 0.2 (great huh?, lol) and my estradiol is 39.0. Range is 34.-400.00...(hello, any eggs alive there, lol.) The blood was taken on day 1 of my cycle plus it was my second period in that month, had one in the beginning and one at the end. First period was 28 days exactly (like the old days) 2nd one came about 23 days so a bit earlier. I don't know, I guess I have a few dribbles in me. My FSH is still within range though. He didn't do the lutenizing hormone test which I hear you should do when you do FSH. Also, I guess all these numbers change when you are in Peri. Who knows. This is the first year my periods starting changing, i was always on time like clockwork. This is a puzzle of major proportions isn't it? We are like lab experiments that we are performing on ourselves.
lizardlover42000
Aug 6 2009, 08:06 PM
QUOTE (alinam @ Aug 6 2009, 01:39 PM)

What dose of zoloft are you on? I've been on 100mg for two weeks (after tapering up super slowly) and I'm still having terrible anxiety. I'm even having more palpitations. I'm beginning to wonder if 100 mg is too much?
Angela
i am on 50 mg going on two years.
DebraD
Aug 7 2009, 03:08 AM
QUOTE (michuganna @ Aug 5 2009, 12:08 PM)

I am going to the Dr. today and I am wondering if I could get some input from you about which AD worked best for Panic/Anxiety/Depression. I realize many respond differently to different AD. Just want to get a overall picture of perhaps which one overall has worked the best for the majority of women who are taking an AD. I have heard Effexor is a good one, however, withdrawing is difficult. Right now I am not so concerned with withdrawal as I am with getting some relief so that I can handle the things I need to do i.e. testing or whatnot as I move forward in my particular hellish journey.
Thanks all.
Mich
Hi Mich, I think all AD's have some type of withdrawing issues. At least for me they did. I tried just about everything and at one point was on Effexor. That did help after having a miscarriage but boy did I ever have a time trying to get off of it. One friend of mine who was a rep for a pharmaceutical company jokingly called it Side-effexor. She was not kidding. A few years later after my son was about 3 I hit my alltime low knee deep in Perihell at 44/45 years old. I bit the bullet and went on Prozac at the advice of another friend who was also a nurse. It has had probably the least side effects but I even now have problems lowering the dose and I am at only a few mgs a day. It did not have much of a sexual side effect like Effexor. That was bad, I was newly married and it did not go over well with my husband at the time. Good luck....Debra
joyceveronica
Aug 8 2009, 10:47 AM
QUOTE (michuganna @ Aug 5 2009, 09:08 PM)

I am going to the Dr. today and I am wondering if I could get some input from you about which AD worked best for Panic/Anxiety/Depression. I realize many respond differently to different AD. Just want to get a overall picture of perhaps which one overall has worked the best for the majority of women who are taking an AD. I have heard Effexor is a good one, however, withdrawing is difficult. Right now I am not so concerned with withdrawal as I am with getting some relief so that I can handle the things I need to do i.e. testing or whatnot as I move forward in my particular hellish journey.
Thanks all.
Mich
Dear Mich
Just saw your Post today.Am hoping your appointment with your Doctor goes well
I have only experience of Prozac at 20mgs.It seems to do the job with little or no side affects after about the first three months of usage.
Dry mouth and hightened anxiety are two common side effects of ADs so you might be advised to use a small dose of an Anti Anxiety Med till AD kicks in.**** lemon drops or chew gum if your mouth is dry.
Usually best to start with small dose first to see how you are tolerating and then with your Doctor's advice you should eventually reach the maximum level which is optimum for your well-being.
I wish you great success
Please keep us Posted
Warm Wishes
Elizabeth
P.S. Do not get dispirited if a change in mood does not come quickly.It is a very subtle change at the beginning.Some people give up on ADs as they see it as a Magic Happy Pill.It is not but it helps you to cope better and get more joy out of life.
Webalina
Aug 8 2009, 02:57 PM
I'm on Effexor XR and I love it. Lexapro was horrible for me, but a lot of women on this site swear by it.
michuganna
Aug 8 2009, 03:21 PM
QUOTE (Webalina @ Aug 8 2009, 03:57 PM)

I'm on Effexor XR and I love it. Lexapro was horrible for me, but a lot of women on this site swear by it.
I'm on day 3 10mg. We will step up to 20mg in a week. So far it's not terrible, I felt decent yesterday, but woke up at 4:00am with panic/anxiety (which is part of my problem in addition to depression) had to take a Xanax to get calmed down. I am hoping to wean off the Xanax as I am not comfie taking it every day, usually never more than 1mg but still...... Can you tell me your experience on Lexapro? What was the difference between that and Effexor XR? Did you have anxiety/panic/depression? Just in case the Lexapro doesn't work for me, I may try the Effexor. A masseuse I go to uses Effexor and loves it as well.
Thanks,
Mich
themainemom
Aug 9 2009, 08:36 AM
Michuganna, eagerly reading your posts everyday. I am on day 9 of Zoloft. Some days have been worse than others, so that's confusing to try to figure out if it's side effects of just my regular "stuff". One day was very increased anxiety, which I'm sure was a side effect, the other days fatiuge, but that was one of my main issues anyway. I am SO HOPING that this helps me. I have lots of peri stuff, which on most days I am convinced that is some real physical medical problem that I have, then I convince myself that it's just anxiety. Always on the fence!!! I am commited to sticking this out, and probably upping the dose in a couple of weeks. I'm only on 12.5 right now. Plus I know that it can take many weeks to feel results. Anyhow, just wanted to let you know I enjoy your posts and feel your pain when it's a "bad day". I have many as well. This is the best place in the whole world for wacky girls like us!
chaotichar
Aug 9 2009, 11:56 AM
I started on 10 mg of lexapro back in sept. Up the dose to 20mg and still felt nothing so doc switched me to Paxil 20 mg. Did great for a while and now I take 40mg. I take klonopin for the anxiety. I hope I don't have to up the dose any more because I know weaning will be difficult. But I've always been a nervous person and insecure growing up. So when a stressor comes up watch out. I can only deal one day at a time or even minute by minute as I could be happy one minute and completely down the next out of the blue. Everybody is different here with ADs and there may be trial and error period, but don't ever give up because it does take time.
((((((char))))))
michuganna
Aug 9 2009, 12:18 PM
QUOTE (themainemom @ Aug 9 2009, 08:36 AM)

Michuganna, eagerly reading your posts everyday. I am on day 9 of Zoloft. Some days have been worse than others, so that's confusing to try to figure out if it's side effects of just my regular "stuff". One day was very increased anxiety, which I'm sure was a side effect, the other days fatiuge, but that was one of my main issues anyway. I am SO HOPING that this helps me. I have lots of peri stuff, which on most days I am convinced that is some real physical medical problem that I have, then I convince myself that it's just anxiety. Always on the fence!!! I am commited to sticking this out, and probably upping the dose in a couple of weeks. I'm only on 12.5 right now. Plus I know that it can take many weeks to feel results. Anyhow, just wanted to let you know I enjoy your posts and feel your pain when it's a "bad day". I have many as well. This is the best place in the whole world for wacky girls like us!
Good morning (I hope, lol). Today will be day 4 (I haven't taken it yet), I did wake up again at 4:00 am except I was able to get back to sleep without taking a Xanax, so that's good. I woke up this morning a little shaky, twitchy, ughhh. Trying not to take a Xanax. Overall as the day goes forward I feel better, the mornings are the worse for me. I can totally relate to your Peri journey. The only thing I don't get is the crashing fatigue, it takes a lot to even get me to be able to nap (I don't). I'm just grateful that I have been able to fall asleep at night. I take 2 D3, 1 Vitamin C, 1 melotonin and some sleepy time chamomille tea right before bed. I don't know if that is helping or I'm just at a place in my cycle that is allowing me to fall asleep. It is so hard, it's like I am so hyperfocused on every thing my body is doing I wonder if I create some of the physical manifestations. Just like you I don't know half the time. We just have to hang tough and keep trying to find a way to get through this with our sanity intact, lol. I agree, this site is great. I have connected with several woman on this site and it's been awesome. Thanks for reading and enjoying my posts, sometimes I feel like I am just rambling half the time, lol...
michuganna
Aug 9 2009, 12:25 PM
QUOTE (chaotichar @ Aug 9 2009, 11:56 AM)

I started on 10 mg of lexapro back in sept. Up the dose to 20mg and still felt nothing so doc switched me to Paxil 20 mg. Did great for a while and now I take 40mg. I take klonopin for the anxiety. I hope I don't have to up the dose any more because I know weaning will be difficult. But I've always been a nervous person and insecure growing up. So when a stressor comes up watch out. I can only deal one day at a time or even minute by minute as I could be happy one minute and completely down the next out of the blue. Everybody is different here with ADs and there may be trial and error period, but don't ever give up because it does take time.
((((((char))))))
I'm also starting on 10 mg, the side effects are gone, I think. I hope this works. I have always been able to handle stress reasonably well (I think)... I have had my melt downs here and there in the past, but, there were based on actual life situations. But, I picked myself up and moved forward. It seems like now I just don't have the ability to handle stuff. Maybe I have depleted my reserves or it is just plain bottoming out hormones. I'm going to give this a fair shot and keep trying until something works (I hope SOMETHING works, lol) So I take it Paxil is working for you, I'm glad. I share your concern about having to up doses. I am already not comfie with what I am taking right now. Never thought I would be a med kind of gal. But, a girls gotta do what she's gotta do to get through this, right?? ((((((hugs to you)))))))
themainemom
Aug 9 2009, 01:55 PM
Totally never thought I would be a "med kind of gal" either. But, it's finally gotten to the point that I would drink poison if someone said it would "cure" me. Am willing to bite the bullet and take the stupid little pill and HOPE, HOPE, HOPE!
boogie30
Aug 9 2009, 02:39 PM
You girls sound so much like me. Thank goodness I found this site before I went completely crazy. I am on my 10 week of "something". The doctors tell me that I am in perimenopause. I am 50 years old and for the last four months my periods have been irregular, some last, some early. The only thing I know is that at one time in July my estrogen level was 50. Here are my symptoms: I wake up early every day with anxiety, high blood pressure, rapid heart rate, and scared to death. I flip over and get a minute or two of relief and then the cycle begins again until I get out of bed. I go to sleep at night with no difficulty. If I try to take a nap in the afternoon, I wake up suddenly with the same symptoms. I am not taking any medication, except vitamins-magniesum, calcium, and bs. I stay nervous until around 5:00 pm. I can't tolerate the heat. I had a bad crying spell this morning. I am so tired of this. It is controlling my life. What can I do?
little lil
Aug 9 2009, 03:14 PM
QUOTE (alinam @ Aug 6 2009, 06:54 PM)

Wow, that stinks! I forgot, which AD were you trying? I'm so sorry you're having such terrible side effects. I know that's exactly what you were afraid of. Are you on HRT? Someone was saying that an antidepressant that increases serotonin would't work if you were low on estrogen. I'm not on HRT right now and I'm wondering if there's some truth to that statement.
((((((((((lil))))))))))
Angela
I never heard of that.
michuganna
Aug 9 2009, 04:02 PM
QUOTE (boogie30 @ Aug 9 2009, 02:39 PM)

You girls sound so much like me. Thank goodness I found this site before I went completely crazy. I am on my 10 week of "something". The doctors tell me that I am in perimenopause. I am 50 years old and for the last four months my periods have been irregular, some last, some early. The only thing I know is that at one time in July my estrogen level was 50. Here are my symptoms: I wake up early every day with anxiety, high blood pressure, rapid heart rate, and scared to death. I flip over and get a minute or two of relief and then the cycle begins again until I get out of bed. I go to sleep at night with no difficulty. If I try to take a nap in the afternoon, I wake up suddenly with the same symptoms. I am not taking any medication, except vitamins-magniesum, calcium, and bs. I stay nervous until around 5:00 pm. I can't tolerate the heat. I had a bad crying spell this morning. I am so tired of this. It is controlling my life. What can I do?
You are experiencing exactly what I am experiencing. I am always awake. Lately I have been able to sleep at night, but, the last 2 nights woke up at 4:00 am. One of those nights with panic, had to take xanax to get back to sleep, last night was able to get myself back to sleep without it. But, woke up this morning with shaking and anxiety, so tried hard to bear it but couldn't and took a xanax. Then 2 hours later took my Lexapro (4th day) So far I guess it's okay. No more side effects. I am to take 10 mg for 7 days and then up the dose to 20 mg. My estrogen is 34 at last blood work done this month. I definitely don't get the luxury of naps, my body is just not tired. But, I'm real good about laying around all day which is terrible. I know I have got to start getting on my treadmill and doing instead of sitting. I will get there. I'm just dealing with the anxiety/panic/depression right now. So I am being very indulgent to myself. Thank goodness my hubbie is on board with whatever I need. That takes a lot of stress off. Plus I am off work until I start feeling better (which could be several years, lol.... I sure hope not). I hope you start feeling better. I can only suggest being kind to yourself and not beating yourself up over this. Take one minute at a time. If this was just a mind over matter thing it would be easy but there is more in play here that is somewhat out of our control. Also, keep coming back here for support. I would suggest an anti anxiety med if you haven't tried that, it really has helped me. I'll let you know if the Lexapro is making any difference. ((((((hugs))))))
boogie30
Aug 9 2009, 04:34 PM
QUOTE (michuganna @ Aug 9 2009, 03:02 PM)

You are experiencing exactly what I am experiencing. I am always awake. Lately I have been able to sleep at night, but, the last 2 nights woke up at 4:00 am. One of those nights with panic, had to take xanax to get back to sleep, last night was able to get myself back to sleep without it. But, woke up this morning with shaking and anxiety, so tried hard to bear it but couldn't and took a xanax. Then 2 hours later took my Lexapro (4th day) So far I guess it's okay. No more side effects. I am to take 10 mg for 7 days and then up the dose to 20 mg. My estrogen is 34 at last blood work done this month. I definitely don't get the luxury of naps, my body is just not tired. But, I'm real good about laying around all day which is terrible. I know I have got to start getting on my treadmill and doing instead of sitting. I will get there. I'm just dealing with the anxiety/panic/depression right now. So I am being very indulgent to myself. Thank goodness my hubbie is on board with whatever I need. That takes a lot of stress off. Plus I am off work until I start feeling better (which could be several years, lol.... I sure hope not). I hope you start feeling better. I can only suggest being kind to yourself and not beating yourself up over this. Take one minute at a time. If this was just a mind over matter thing it would be easy but there is more in play here that is somewhat out of our control. Also, keep coming back here for support. I would suggest an anti anxiety med if you haven't tried that, it really has helped me. I'll let you know if the Lexapro is making any difference. ((((((hugs))))))
Please be careful with Lexapro. I was on it for three years and had to get off. I had awful withdrawal symptoms from it. Glad, (not really glad), that you and I are in the same boat. Misery loves company.hahaha I am also having severe depression. If I hear anything on TV or in a conversation that someone is sick, I immediately wonder if I have the same thing. I have a very hard time taking ADs. When I first start taking them, my anxiety and depression seem to worsen. I have tightness in my chest nearly all day. Do you think that all of this is perimenopause?
michuganna
Aug 9 2009, 04:54 PM
QUOTE (boogie30 @ Aug 9 2009, 04:34 PM)

Please be careful with Lexapro. I was on it for three years and had to get off. I had awful withdrawal symptoms from it. Glad, (not really glad), that you and I are in the same boat. Misery loves company.hahaha I am also having severe depression. If I hear anything on TV or in a conversation that someone is sick, I immediately wonder if I have the same thing. I have a very hard time taking ADs. When I first start taking them, my anxiety and depression seem to worsen. I have tightness in my chest nearly all day. Do you think that all of this is perimenopause?
I think that you can have withdrawals from any anti depressant. That was one of my concerns about starting up with them. But, I have to try. I did ask my psych about withdrawals and he said you just titrate down, which really doesn't guarantee you won't have withdrawals. As it stood, I had no quality of life and I can't NOT try something. I don't like to hear anything about illness, the word cancer, anything absolutely to do about illness. I started reading a book I was excited to read and one of the characters alluded to a lump like feeling in her stomach, and I was like dam, now I can't read this book, so I skipped ahead to make sure she wasn't ill (turns out she is pregnant, lol) so now I can read the darn book. See how kooky I am, if it wasn't so tragic, it would be funny. I hope this AD doesn't exasberate the anxiety, so far it hasn't. They say sometimes you have to hang tough through the anxiety for the AD to kick in. I know easier said than done. I know exactly how you are feeling. How old are you? Peri can start in your 30's to 40's. It's not unlikely you are in peri. I think I started in my early 40's.
summermoon
Aug 9 2009, 05:32 PM
I may have posted this before but here I go again because I am so passionate about this subject. Lexapro was the devils poison for me. It not only had me to the point of suicide in a few short weeks but it also had me considering, in my lexapro induced thinking, of taking my son out with me. It says it can take up to 18 months to clear your body and it did take me that long. I was miserable the whole time. I was lucky enough to find a web site that supports people trying to get off of lexapro. There were hundreds of people posting to that site so it wasn't just me. It saved mine and my sons life.
I am not a supporter of AD's at all! I believe in omega 3's.
shelby1970
Aug 9 2009, 05:36 PM
HOPEFULLY, I'M NOT SPEAKING TOO SOON BUT I HAVE STARTED ST JOHNS WORT 3-4 WKS AGO, AND I THINK I'M FEELING THE FOG LIFTING SOME. IT MAY JUST BE A "GOOD TIME" OF THE MONTH FOR ME, BUT I'M HOPING IT WILL STAY THIS WAY. I'M A PERSON WHO HAS SIDE EFFECTS TO EVERYTHING, AND I'VE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO SIDE EFFECTS. IF IT DOESN'T WORK, I'LL TRY SOMETHING ELSE, BUT KNOCK 0N WOOD, I'M FEELING PRETTY GOOD.
michuganna
Aug 9 2009, 05:52 PM
QUOTE (summermoon @ Aug 9 2009, 05:32 PM)

I may have posted this before but here I go again because I am so passionate about this subject. Lexapro was the devils poison for me. It not only had me to the point of suicide in a few short weeks but it also had me considering, in my lexapro induced thinking, of taking my son out with me. It says it can take up to 18 months to clear your body and it did take me that long. I was miserable the whole time. I was lucky enough to find a web site that supports people trying to get off of lexapro. There were hundreds of people posting to that site so it wasn't just me. It saved mine and my sons life.
I am not a supporter of AD's at all! I believe in omega 3's.
Well, that does sound like a nightmare. I can't say I feel terrible at this point (day 4). I had a friend who also calls it the devils poison, she can't take xanax either. I tolerate xanax well and so far the lexapro. At any point if I start feeling suicidal I will pull myself off of it. I am hoping that it isn't a nightmare for me like it was for you. I know that for every horror story there are success stories too. I am very suggestable, so I am going to try and not let your post freak me out. I guess I could have just stuck with Xanax only. This feels like a no win situation and frankly really scary. What can I do but try what I try and hope that if I have to wean off of this I won't feel too terrible.
alinam
Aug 9 2009, 06:39 PM
QUOTE (boogie30 @ Aug 9 2009, 12:39 PM)

You girls sound so much like me. Thank goodness I found this site before I went completely crazy. I am on my 10 week of "something". The doctors tell me that I am in perimenopause. I am 50 years old and for the last four months my periods have been irregular, some last, some early. The only thing I know is that at one time in July my estrogen level was 50. Here are my symptoms: I wake up early every day with anxiety, high blood pressure, rapid heart rate, and scared to death. I flip over and get a minute or two of relief and then the cycle begins again until I get out of bed. I go to sleep at night with no difficulty. If I try to take a nap in the afternoon, I wake up suddenly with the same symptoms. I am not taking any medication, except vitamins-magniesum, calcium, and bs. I stay nervous until around 5:00 pm. I can't tolerate the heat. I had a bad crying spell this morning. I am so tired of this. It is controlling my life. What can I do?
Wow, Boogie, that is EXACTLY what's been happening to me since December (at least, I fell asleep ok until I got so anxious about having a panic attack at night, now I have to take meds to sleep). I wake up with the sun (literally) anxious and shaky, can't take a nap because of the same thing, I have the heart racing, palpitations, etc. I also have terrible crying spells. I tried a low dose birth control pill that a gyn recommended, but I made my morning anxiety worse and I only managed to tough it out for one month.
Currently, I'm on 100 mg/day of zoloft, ativan 2-3 mg/day, and neurontin for sleep. My periods have started to become irregular. I just turned fourty in May and I'm sure hoping I won't still be doing this when I'm 50!
Ang
boogie30
Aug 9 2009, 08:32 PM
QUOTE (michuganna @ Aug 9 2009, 03:54 PM)

I think that you can have withdrawals from any anti depressant. That was one of my concerns about starting up with them. But, I have to try. I did ask my psych about withdrawals and he said you just titrate down, which really doesn't guarantee you won't have withdrawals. As it stood, I had no quality of life and I can't NOT try something. I don't like to hear anything about illness, the word cancer, anything absolutely to do about illness. I started reading a book I was excited to read and one of the characters alluded to a lump like feeling in her stomach, and I was like dam, now I can't read this book, so I skipped ahead to make sure she wasn't ill (turns out she is pregnant, lol) so now I can read the darn book. See how kooky I am, if it wasn't so tragic, it would be funny. I hope this AD doesn't exasberate the anxiety, so far it hasn't. They say sometimes you have to hang tough through the anxiety for the AD to kick in. I know easier said than done. I know exactly how you are feeling. How old are you? Peri can start in your 30's to 40's. It's not unlikely you are in peri. I think I started in my early 40's.
I am 50 years old. Right now I have tightness in my chest, my stomach is quessy, and I feel like my heart is pounding. So much of what you are saying is how I feel. None of my friends have ever experienced anything like this. What do you suggest I do?
boogie30
Aug 9 2009, 08:38 PM
[quote name='alinam' date='Aug 9 2009, 05:39 PM' post='303080']
Wow, Boogie, that is EXACTLY what's been happening to me since December (at least, I fell asleep ok until I got so anxious about having a panic attack at night, now I have to take meds to sleep). I wake up with the sun (literally) anxious and shaky, can't take a nap because of the same thing, I have the heart racing, palpitations, etc. I also have terrible crying spells. I tried a low dose birth control pill that a gyn recommended, but I made my morning anxiety worse and I only managed to tough it out for one month.
Currently, I'm on 100 mg/day of zoloft, ativan 2-3 mg/day, and neurontin for sleep. My periods have started to become irregular. I just turned fourty in May and I'm sure hoping I won't still be doing this when I'm 50!
An
Have you been to a doctor. If so, what did they say? I had one doctor tell me that I need to take Black Cohosh. Another doctor told me not to that it would make my blood pressure go up. Do you wake up from a nap right when you start to go to sleep? I do! I go to sleep at night and sleep sound until early morning and then the party begins! My blood pressure also goes up. This is scaring me to death. The doctors that I have seen are clueless as to what is going on. They say, It must be perimenopause. I just want to feel good again.
alinam
Aug 9 2009, 08:56 PM
QUOTE (alinam @ Aug 9 2009, 05:39 PM)

Wow, Boogie, that is EXACTLY what's been happening to me since December (at least, I fell asleep ok until I got so anxious about having a panic attack at night, now I have to take meds to sleep). I wake up with the sun (literally) anxious and shaky, can't take a nap because of the same thing, I have the heart racing, palpitations, etc. I also have terrible crying spells. I tried a low dose birth control pill that a gyn recommended, but I made my morning anxiety worse and I only managed to tough it out for one month.
Currently, I'm on 100 mg/day of zoloft, ativan 2-3 mg/day, and neurontin for sleep. My periods have started to become irregular. I just turned fourty in May and I'm sure hoping I won't still be doing this when I'm 50!
An
Have you been to a doctor. If so, what did they say? I had one doctor tell me that I need to take Black Cohosh. Another doctor told me not to that it would make my blood pressure go up. Do you wake up from a nap right when you start to go to sleep? I do! I go to sleep at night and sleep sound until early morning and then the party begins! My blood pressure also goes up. This is scaring me to death. The doctors that I have seen are clueless as to what is going on. They say, It must be perimenopause. I just want to feel good again.
Well, I haven't tried to take a nap in several weeks because I'm afraid to. I either wake up just as I'm falling asleep, or I can sleep for an hour and wake up with my heart racing and terrible anxiety. I think my nervous system gets wired up by the sunlight because I don't usually wake up before it starts getting light.
I've been to my primary doc several times, two gyn's, a psychiatrist numerous times. . .none of them knows what to do either. I finally got a nurse practitioner at my doctors office to check hormone levels which all came out "normal" in her eyes, but a couple are borderline low. She checked my cortisol level and thyroid and both of those were normal too. After "googling" symptoms, I was convinced I had a terrible disease, but the only thing the doctors will sayis, you must be in peri. Honestly!!
The zoloft seems to be helping a little bit, but it took forever to get to this dose because every dose increase made my anxiety worse.
I'll keep you posted.
Ang
chaotichar
Aug 10 2009, 10:15 AM
QUOTE (boogie30 @ Aug 9 2009, 03:39 PM)

You girls sound so much like me. Thank goodness I found this site before I went completely crazy. I am on my 10 week of "something". The doctors tell me that I am in perimenopause. I am 50 years old and for the last four months my periods have been irregular, some last, some early. The only thing I know is that at one time in July my estrogen level was 50. Here are my symptoms: I wake up early every day with anxiety, high blood pressure, rapid heart rate, and scared to death. I flip over and get a minute or two of relief and then the cycle begins again until I get out of bed. I go to sleep at night with no difficulty. If I try to take a nap in the afternoon, I wake up suddenly with the same symptoms. I am not taking any medication, except vitamins-magniesum, calcium, and bs. I stay nervous until around 5:00 pm. I can't tolerate the heat. I had a bad crying spell this morning. I am so tired of this. It is controlling my life. What can I do?
Boogie30,
Those are my symptoms. My day starts off with early morning waking. As soon as I open my eyes anxiety hits. I cannot stay in bed as it gets worse. Rapid heart beat. Loss of appetite. I cannot nap during the day and if I do I wake suddenly with scared feeling. I start to feel better in the evening also. I try and eat a good dinner. I feel so much better at night like a totally different person. I'm usually tired and ready for bed by 11 but have to take klonopin to sleep. So I guess we're not alone.... I don't have any answers either but to live minute by minute. Stay posting as other women relate to us too.
(((((char))))
alinam
Aug 10 2009, 06:27 PM
QUOTE (chaotichar @ Aug 10 2009, 08:15 AM)

Boogie30,
Those are my symptoms. My day starts off with early morning waking. As soon as I open my eyes anxiety hits. I cannot stay in bed as it gets worse. Rapid heart beat. Loss of appetite. I cannot nap during the day and if I do I wake suddenly with scared feeling. I start to feel better in the evening also. I try and eat a good dinner. I feel so much better at night like a totally different person. I'm usually tired and ready for bed by 11 but have to take klonopin to sleep. So I guess we're not alone.... I don't have any answers either but to live minute by minute. Stay posting as other women relate to us too.
(((((char))))
Are you guys really cold sensitive, too? When I get up in the morning, if the temperature is less than 75 or so, I'm so cold my teeth chatter and my hands shake.
Ang
chaotichar
Aug 10 2009, 06:55 PM
Ang,
Yes. I too get cold. I've been wearing jeans when it's 80. I have to keep on the air for the family. I usually sit with a heating pad on my back. Tension makes my back hurt...
(((((char))))
boogie30
Aug 10 2009, 08:49 PM
QUOTE (chaotichar @ Aug 10 2009, 09:15 AM)

Boogie30,
Those are my symptoms. My day starts off with early morning waking. As soon as I open my eyes anxiety hits. I cannot stay in bed as it gets worse. Rapid heart beat. Loss of appetite. I cannot nap during the day and if I do I wake suddenly with scared feeling. I start to feel better in the evening also. I try and eat a good dinner. I feel so much better at night like a totally different person. I'm usually tired and ready for bed by 11 but have to take klonopin to sleep. So I guess we're not alone.... I don't have any answers either but to live minute by minute. Stay posting as other women relate to us too.
(((((char))))
Today has been a very stressful day. I woke up early with all the symptoms-----my blood pressure was up and my heart was racing and I was shaking. Also, as the day went on my upper chest area was so tight and I had to do deep breathing. Every time I got hot today, I started having the tightness in my chest and nervousness. Right now, I feel very good. But it is nearly 8:00 pm. I have a prescription of effexor that I am thing about started to take. My doctor wanted me to start with 12 mg at night and then work up to 25. I do not tolerate ads very good. What do you all thinkg?
michuganna
Aug 10 2009, 09:20 PM
QUOTE (boogie30 @ Aug 10 2009, 09:49 PM)

Today has been a very stressful day. I woke up early with all the symptoms-----my blood pressure was up and my heart was racing and I was shaking. Also, as the day went on my upper chest area was so tight and I had to do deep breathing. Every time I got hot today, I started having the tightness in my chest and nervousness. Right now, I feel very good. But it is nearly 8:00 pm. I have a prescription of effexor that I am thing about started to take. My doctor wanted me to start with 12 mg at night and then work up to 25. I do not tolerate ads very good. What do you all thinkg?
I think that taking an AD is a big choice. I decided to try (Lexapro). I'm nervous about the whole AD thing, but, I just have to find a way to feel better and if I don't try I won't know what works and what doesn't. You have to think about the quality of life you want and go from there. You will always find people who are dead set against AD's who have had terrible experiences, but, you will also find people who have had great success with them as well. I've decided to try and see if it helps.
Good luck on whatever decision you decide on.
Mich
joyceveronica
Aug 11 2009, 09:15 AM
QUOTE (michuganna @ Aug 11 2009, 05:20 AM)

I think that taking an AD is a big choice. I decided to try (Lexapro). I'm nervous about the whole AD thing, but, I just have to find a way to feel better and if I don't try I won't know what works and what doesn't. You have to think about the quality of life you want and go from there. You will always find people who are dead set against AD's who have had terrible experiences, but, you will also find people who have had great success with them as well. I've decided to try and see if it helps.
Good luck on whatever decision you decide on.
Mich

Dear Mich
Yes it is a hard decision to make but many experience a lot of good with ADs.
Start with the smallest dose and if you find your anxiety is a little more hightened for a while a small dose of Xanax should help.
I have a friend who was completely dead set against ADs till she almost had a breakdown She is now on Lexapro and feels much better,she keeps saying she could kick herself for all the time she spent humming and hawing she did before!
Good Luck
Warm Blessings
Elizabeth
alinam
Aug 11 2009, 12:45 PM
I have to say, the panic and crying spells are starting to get better for me on the zoloft at 100 mg. I just feel kind of weird and tense. I wish I could decide whether that means the dose is too high or too low? Oh well, at least it's better than it was. I want my life back, and it's been such a long time since I felt I could just relax.
Angela
boogie30
Aug 11 2009, 04:50 PM
I need to vent. I had a really bad day. I woke up early, of course, with heart pounding. I took my bp and it was high for me-148/88. It has been high all day. My face feels like it is on fire. I came home from work and tried to take a nap. Right when I was about to relax and drift off to sleep I had an attack---face hot and heart pounding. I got up and took my bp---150-84. What is going on with me? Please someone try to explain. I made an appointment with a heart doctor--next Tuesday. I don't know if I can wait that long or if I need to go to EM room.
alinam
Aug 11 2009, 07:00 PM
QUOTE (boogie30 @ Aug 11 2009, 02:50 PM)

I need to vent. I had a really bad day. I woke up early, of course, with heart pounding. I took my bp and it was high for me-148/88. It has been high all day. My face feels like it is on fire. I came home from work and tried to take a nap. Right when I was about to relax and drift off to sleep I had an attack---face hot and heart pounding. I got up and took my bp---150-84. What is going on with me? Please someone try to explain. I made an appointment with a heart doctor--next Tuesday. I don't know if I can wait that long or if I need to go to EM room.
I'm so sorry you're having such a rotten week. I've been through all those things, too. Was taking my blood pressure in the morning and coming up with all kinds of wacky things. I've even had the joy of trying to take a nap and as soon as I lay down my heart starts racing, skin starts burning, etc. It really does seem to be getting better on the zoloft, although I'm still terrified of trying to take a nap (which is a bummer, because I used to love naps). Problem with the AD was that I had to start out on a tiny dose and step up really slowly and every time I increased the dose, the anxiety got worse for awhile.
The blood pressure is probably related to the anxiety. Do you have something you can take for anxiety, then check your blood pressure once it kicks in? (I'm sure you've mentioned this before, but I'm slipping into senility, it seems).
I really hope you're feeling better by now. I'm right with you.
(((((boogie)))))
here's some hugs. PM me if you need more.
Ang
michuganna
Aug 11 2009, 07:35 PM
QUOTE (alinam @ Aug 11 2009, 07:00 PM)

I'm so sorry you're having such a rotten week. I've been through all those things, too. Was taking my blood pressure in the morning and coming up with all kinds of wacky things. I've even had the joy of trying to take a nap and as soon as I lay down my heart starts racing, skin starts burning, etc. It really does seem to be getting better on the zoloft, although I'm still terrified of trying to take a nap (which is a bummer, because I used to love naps). Problem with the AD was that I had to start out on a tiny dose and step up really slowly and every time I increased the dose, the anxiety got worse for awhile.
The blood pressure is probably related to the anxiety. Do you have something you can take for anxiety, then check your blood pressure once it kicks in? (I'm sure you've mentioned this before, but I'm slipping into senility, it seems).
I really hope you're feeling better by now. I'm right with you.
(((((boogie)))))
here's some hugs. PM me if you need more.
Ang
Update on my Lexapro travels. So far no bad side effects except a little nausea. I have two days then I have to titrate up. I still have to take xanax for the breakthrough anxiety. But, usually by about 5:00 I am good for the evening. I've been taking a few supplements and they seem to help me sleep pretty decently. My feet still ache but not enough to wake me up. I'm hoping this is going to help me. I thought for a second I had this brief (very brief) feeling of calmness/serenity, but it was very fleeting. Could be my imagination. The aches and pains just freak me out, plus like I said I lay around way too much wallowing in how I feel. Way too much time to focus on every twitch, ache and pain. I did do the dishes today so my husband didn't have to come home and do them. I am being uber super uber lazy, it's time for that shower again. i'm taking the "year of the frump" to extreme levels. Hope everyone else has some moment of peace and contentment in their day. I know even 1 hour means something when you are constantly feeling like you have the world on your shoulders.
Becca233
Aug 11 2009, 07:36 PM
QUOTE (michuganna @ Aug 9 2009, 05:52 PM)

Well, that does sound like a nightmare. I can't say I feel terrible at this point (day 4). I had a friend who also calls it the devils poison, she can't take xanax either. I tolerate xanax well and so far the lexapro. At any point if I start feeling suicidal I will pull myself off of it. I am hoping that it isn't a nightmare for me like it was for you. I know that for every horror story there are success stories too. I am very suggestable, so I am going to try and not let your post freak me out. I guess I could have just stuck with Xanax only. This feels like a no win situation and frankly really scary. What can I do but try what I try and hope that if I have to wean off of this I won't feel too terrible.
Hey hun, I totally understand. They had prescribed me Lexapro and Clonopin (sp), heck I was too chicken.. Heck even when I start a supplement or something, I can get a little freaky...
Hang in there, and hey you ain't alone w/that 4 am crap, I get that too, but mine is at 3AM... I feel it is totally related to night sweats, cuz I notice I am always hot about that time, and then I will sometimes get the palpitations, then I get the freaky anxiety... Heck last night I was like up for ever....
boogie30
Aug 11 2009, 08:30 PM
I called the gyn this afternoon. She is going to see me tomorrow afternoon. I am going to ask her about taking hormones. I have read some things about bioidenical hormones. Do any of you know anything about this kind of treatment. Right now I can feel every heartbeat. My face feels hot and I am very tired. I am sure it is the MVP, but it really gets to be a pain. I also feel slightly light headed. I can't see myself going through this perimenopause thing for several years. It can't be healthy. So, what do you think about the bioidenitcal hormones? I am also going to talk to the gyn about ADs. I really need to get my BP and heartrate down. Plus, I need to stop the early morning wake-up problems. I would like to take this time to thank everyone on this forum. It helps so much to share our experiences and thoughts.
dmar
Aug 26 2009, 03:28 PM
QUOTE (lizardlover42000 @ Aug 5 2009, 03:50 PM)

i am on zoloft and i am doing great so great i don't need xanax as much. I read that zoloft and lexapro are most effective AD. Goodluck and hope whatever you choose is right for you. Be patient cause sometimes you will feel worse before better give it a chance to get in your system Terry
Hi Lizard,
I just went to my doctor today and was prescribed Zoloft for severe anxiety. I made the mistake of reading all the warnings and info they stick in the package with the meds. Now, I'm anxious over taking it. My problem is I take a very low dose aspirin daily and I also take 25 mg. of hydroclorathiazide for slightly elevated BP. I called back to ask and they said I would be fine, but I wonder if I should stop taking the aspirin while I'm on it. I really want the benefits that they say aspirin gives, but I am so anxious, almost all day every day, and I need relief. Do you know anything about any of this? Thanks, and I'm glad the Zoloft is working for you!
God bless,
Deb
angelindskies
Aug 26 2009, 07:45 PM
QUOTE (dmar @ Aug 26 2009, 02:28 PM)

Hi Lizard,
I just went to my doctor today and was prescribed Zoloft for severe anxiety. I made the mistake of reading all the warnings and info they stick in the package with the meds. Now, I'm anxious over taking it. My problem is I take a very low dose aspirin daily and I also take 25 mg. of hydroclorathiazide for slightly elevated BP. I called back to ask and they said I would be fine, but I wonder if I should stop taking the aspirin while I'm on it. I really want the benefits that they say aspirin gives, but I am so anxious, almost all day every day, and I need relief. Do you know anything about any of this? Thanks, and I'm glad the Zoloft is working for you!
God bless,
Deb
hey dmarVELOUS, you vibrant ray of sunshine, you!! (haven't seen you in a long while!)
perhaps you should call a couple of pharmacies (not the prescribing pharm, as you'll want other opionions), speak to the pharmacist directly and ask questions of them. many pharmacies now have in place systems that alert them to drug interactions w/other meds patients take~~this presumes the prescribing pharm has all your current meds/vitamins on file. if your prescribing pharm utilizes this system, and all data is in place, hopefully it would have been caught at that time, or the paperwork given containing the drug information and "warnings" would state if consumption of aspirin would somehow [negatively or otherwise] impact the drug.
hope you get some relief, somehow, you dmarVELOUS muffincake!
xOxOxO
(((angel)))
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