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Rosepurple
Hi

I've been reading some of the threads on this forum with much interest and thought that some of the symptoms described in terms of the pain felt during and in between periods could be attributed to irritable bowel syndrome (IBS). I suffer from IBS and find that around period time the pain can be really, really bad (and even in between periods I've had some horrible and inexplicable kinds of pain).

A few days ago I had a period after almost 3 months of not having one and this seems to have really aggravated my IBS. I am now getting over the period but am experiencing inflammation and soreness when I press down on the left side of my abdomen where the bowel loops and goes down. I've had IBS on and off for years and am used to some discomfort, but for some reason this month it's been really bad and I am stressing, thinking it might be something more sinister, even though I've had something similar last year and the year before.

The pain starts just before I have a period and then my ovaries seem to flip out while the period is coming and they hurt like hell, then when the actual period pain calms down I get this weird inflammation sensation (mostly on the left side, but sometimes on the right) and it feels really bad when I do certain movements that jar my body or when I press down on it. The pain is sore and sharp. I've had a couple of ultrasounds in the last 2 years, thinking it was an ovarian cyst that ruptured or something, but all came out normal. I also had an occult blood test where they test stools for microscopic blood in case it's something serious, and that was normal also. I didn't have the courage to have a colonoscopy, but the doctor usually insists on this if she/he finds microscopic blood, which in my case thankfully this wasn't the case. I will be repeating this test soon for peace of mind, but this still doesn't stop me from worrying. I find that with perimenopause it's one thing after another and I am so anxious and depressed that sometimes I don't know what to do.

Does anyone out there suffer from IBS, and if so do your symptoms get worse around period time? Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.

Cheers, Sylvia

XIII
QUOTE (Rosepurple @ Jul 6 2009, 06:03 AM) *
Hi

I've been reading some of the threads on this forum with much interest and thought that some of the symptoms described in terms of the pain felt during and in between periods could be attributed to irritable bowel syndrome (IBS). I suffer from IBS and find that around period time the pain can be really, really bad (and even in between periods I've had some horrible and inexplicable kinds of pain).

A few days ago I had a period after almost 3 months of not having one and this seems to have really aggravated my IBS. I am now getting over the period but am experiencing inflammation and soreness when I press down on the left side of my abdomen where the bowel loops and goes down. I've had IBS on and off for years and am used to some discomfort, but for some reason this month it's been really bad and I am stressing, thinking it might be something more sinister, even though I've had something similar last year and the year before.

The pain starts just before I have a period and then my ovaries seem to flip out while the period is coming and they hurt like hell, then when the actual period pain calms down I get this weird inflammation sensation (mostly on the left side, but sometimes on the right) and it feels really bad when I do certain movements that jar my body or when I press down on it. The pain is sore and sharp. I've had a couple of ultrasounds in the last 2 years, thinking it was an ovarian cyst that ruptured or something, but all came out normal. I also had an occult blood test where they test stools for microscopic blood in case it's something serious, and that was normal also. I didn't have the courage to have a colonoscopy, but the doctor usually insists on this if she/he finds microscopic blood, which in my case thankfully this wasn't the case. I will be repeating this test soon for peace of mind, but this still doesn't stop me from worrying. I find that with perimenopause it's one thing after another and I am so anxious and depressed that sometimes I don't know what to do.

Does anyone out there suffer from IBS, and if so do your symptoms get worse around period time? Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.

Cheers, Sylvia


Hi Sylvia,

IBS was one of my worst peri symptoms. When I look back I just shudder at the almost constant aggro that my unbalanced hormones were causing me. I cannot really point you to a solution except that you are terribly careful about sticking to a gentle and fairly bland diet. I feel that in peri the gut is under stress. Its protective mechanisms do not function correctly and there is little you can do about that. Think of the inside of your gut as being like a skin with dermatitis. What would happen if you bathed in a a higly perfumed bubble bath? You would be in trouble and that is how the peri bowel reacts. I could not eat tomatoes, citrous fruits or anything spicy during the worst times. Trouble is the bowel is hidden so you cannot actually see when problems are occuring. You will have to be very clever to identify the things that trigger problems.
To be quite frank with you I had to accept almost constant abdominal discomfort, that changed from day to day and with the fluctuations of my cycle. At one stage I was convinced that I had endometriosis. It really did feel as though something was stuck to the left side of my colon, sort of, eating away at it. I always had problems at ovulation and sometimes during the bleed itself. I think that it is very easy to convince yourself that something insiduous and terrible is going on but in my case, there is no doubt that it was the STUPID hormones that were making my life a misery. At times I had pain around the rectal area in relation to my cycle. At menopause it stopped and I can now eat tomatoes again. How ridiculous is that?
The most difficult aspect of all this is knowing when to investigate problems. I think that fever, any blood loss, dark stools, anaemia, uncharacteristic diarrhoea, severe constipation, weight loss or unrelenting pain that keeps you awake all night should be looked at but otherwise trying to find a diagnosis can become a bit of a search for the holy grail. It must be remembered that procedures like colonsocopy are invasive and do carry an uncomfortable degree of risk. If the operative is not up to the task it is possible for them to perforate the bowel which always has unhappy consequences.
Perhaps you could keep a simple journal and it may to be possible to identify the times of the month when your hormones cause you the most grief and this might ease your mind a little.
I will tell you that I once chatted to one of the most senior gastroenterologists in the UK on this topic and he was in no doubt that the fluctuation of female hormones could play absolute havoc with gut function. Sad thing was, he admitted that they do not have a clue how to 'sort it.' rolleyes.gif

Take care,

XIII
Rosepurple
QUOTE (XIII @ Jul 6 2009, 05:12 PM) *
Hi Sylvia,

IBS was one of my worst peri symptoms. When I look back I just shudder at the almost constant aggro that my unbalanced hormones were causing me. I cannot really point you to a solution except that you are terribly careful about sticking to a gentle and fairly bland diet. I feel that in peri the gut is under stress. Its protective mechanisms do not function correctly and there is little you can do about that. Think of the inside of your gut as being like a skin with dermatitis. What would happen if you bathed in a a higly perfumed bubble bath? You would be in trouble and that is how the peri bowel reacts. I could not eat tomatoes, citrous fruits or anything spicy during the worst times. Trouble is the bowel is hidden so you cannot actually see when problems are occuring. You will have to be very clever to identify the things that trigger problems.
To be quite frank with you I had to accept almost constant abdominal discomfort, that changed from day to day and with the fluctuations of my cycle. At one stage I was convinced that I had endometriosis. It really did feel as though something was stuck to the left side of my colon, sort of, eating away at it. I always had problems at ovulation and sometimes during the bleed itself. I think that it is very easy to convince yourself that something insiduous and terrible is going on but in my case, there is no doubt that it was the STUPID hormones that were making my life a misery. At times I had pain around the rectal area in relation to my cycle. At menopause it stopped and I can now eat tomatoes again. How ridiculous is that?
The most difficult aspect of all this is knowing when to investigate problems. I think that fever, any blood loss, dark stools, anaemia, uncharacteristic diarrhoea, severe constipation, weight loss or unrelenting pain that keeps you awake all night should be looked at but otherwise trying to find a diagnosis can become a bit of a search for the holy grail. It must be remembered that procedures like colonsocopy are invasive and do carry an uncomfortable degree of risk. If the operative is not up to the task it is possible for them to perforate the bowel which always has unhappy consequences.
Perhaps you could keep a simple journal and it may to be possible to identify the times of the month when your hormones cause you the most grief and this might ease your mind a little.
I will tell you that I once chatted to one of the most senior gastroenterologists in the UK on this topic and he was in no doubt that the fluctuation of female hormones could play absolute havoc with gut function. Sad thing was, he admitted that they do not have a clue how to 'sort it.' rolleyes.gif

Take care,

XIII


Dear XIII

Thank you so much for your response; I find it very reassuring. I never really thought that my IBS would get worse with peri, but now I'm finding otherwise. And yes, most doctors wouldn't know how to help us and so we must help ourselves. Luckily my IBS fluctuates and there are periods of time when I'm quite okay and then others when I feel crappy (like now laugh.gif ).

One question: when you say that your left side felt like there was something inside, eating away at you, what did you mean? Do you mean like an inflammation feeling that when you pressed it was very tender and sore?

I am aware what sets me off in terms of food luckily, and if not I find out by trial and error. I can live with this as long as I know that it isn't something horrible, that is all. Perhaps I should go back to my naturopath and get back on some soothing herbs.

Thank you and looking forward to hearing from you.

Sylvia
XIII
QUOTE (Rosepurple @ Jul 6 2009, 08:59 AM) *
Dear XIII


One question: when you say that your left side felt like there was something inside, eating away at you, what did you mean? Do you mean like an inflammation feeling that when you pressed it was very tender and sore?

I am aware what sets me off in terms of food luckily, and if not I find out by trial and error. I can live with this as long as I know that it isn't something horrible, that is all. Perhaps I should go back to my naturopath and get back on some soothing herbs.


I felt as though I had internal inflammation and it was indeed very sore.
Be a little careful with herbs as they can cause problems with a sensitive bowel too. The only thing I ever found that was soothing to my bowel was arrowroot which I introduced into my diet as a thickener for gravies etc. However in general the pain and discomfort just had a life of its own. Hormones are such a powerful force in the body.


XIII smile.gif
didgens
I osicillate between being consitpated before my period and then having the runs after it starts .. makes my life miserable. I had to work at a fireworks booth on the 4th and was running to find bathrooms it was just great. Sometimes taking a pro-biotic or some acidopholius can help regulate ,, like that activia stuff is supposed to make things regular ,, seems to work .. but I seem to have to take it all the time .. I was kinda hoping that it would put things back to normal and keep them that way sad.gif
Rosepurple
QUOTE (XIII @ Jul 6 2009, 06:14 PM) *
I felt as though I had internal inflammation and it was indeed very sore.
Be a little careful with herbs as they can cause problems with a sensitive bowel too. The only thing I ever found that was soothing to my bowel was arrowroot which I introduced into my diet as a thickener for gravies etc. However in general the pain and discomfort just had a life of its own. Hormones are such a powerful force in the body.


XIII smile.gif


Hi

Thank you for all your advise; I really appreciate it. I am still so worried about this thing, and yet, you are right: I don't have any of the insidious symptoms, thank God. I will be repeating the occult blood test at some stage just to give myself peace of mind that there is no microscopic blood in the stool; and I gree with you that colonoscopy carries a risk and for me it would be the last resort. I am so frightened of this kind of thing!

I have been lucky with my IBS that it has been very mild most of my life and so I have been able to have a normal life (or relatively normal), but now I guess I'm frightened because of this kind of inflammation symptom and the tenderness I feel on the left side. I guess I need time to let it sink in that this is simply my hormones aggravating things and nothing to do with a bowel cancer.

I will proprably end up seeing my naturopath at some stage and will keep in mind about the herbs; you are right, the bowel can get extremely sensitive.

Thank you once again for being there; just hearing from you has given me comfort. Now I cannot wait until I'm well over my menopause rolleyes.gif . I have read that IBS tends to settle down after meno because the hormones are not fluctuating that much any more.

Cheers, Sylvia
Rosepurple
QUOTE (didgens @ Jul 7 2009, 12:06 AM) *
I osicillate between being consitpated before my period and then having the runs after it starts .. makes my life miserable. I had to work at a fireworks booth on the 4th and was running to find bathrooms it was just great. Sometimes taking a pro-biotic or some acidopholius can help regulate ,, like that activia stuff is supposed to make things regular ,, seems to work .. but I seem to have to take it all the time .. I was kinda hoping that it would put things back to normal and keep them that way sad.gif


Hi there,

I also get this alternate pattern - sometimes very dry, sometimes very runny; it seems to be a typical symptom of IBS (and made worse by fluctuating hormones)! Some things that may help: definitely taking probiotics, fibre to give you bulk (fibre helps both ways apparently - if you're constipated it helps with that, and if you're runny it helps to give you bulk); slippery elm is a good herb that also helps with this problem. I also make it a point to drink tea when I have the mushy, diarrhea type of stools as tea is a great drink to dry things up - just make sure it's simply black tea and you don't put milk in it. Coffee does the reverse; if I'm dry I have a cup of coffee in the morning and this usually helps, but I always, always take my fibre and probiotics, and now I'm taking my Omega oils once again to help with the inflammation. I must say I lapsed on those and this is probably why the inflammation is back.

Do you ever get left-sided pain where the bowel loops downward? Does it ever feel tender there, especially when you lie down and press on it? This is what is worrying me now even though I'm fairly sure it's the fluctuating hormones.

Cheers, Sylvia
sciencelady
Digestive issues were my first sign that something was amiss with my body. It took me a year of running to the GI doc and taking every test that they had to finally figure out that I was in peri. When the night sweats started, I put 2 and 2 together and realized that all of this was hormone trouble. I developed acid reflux which I never had before. All of my life, I have been slightly constipated. When my estrogen declined, things "loosened up". I now alternate between lots of loose stuff/diarrhea, a little constipation and some regular. All very unpredictable.
chira
Hi, Sylvia. I, too, get pain in my lower left side before my periods but mine is associated with endometriosis. I have had a laporoscopy to confirm this. I get sharp pains and it hurts to push on the area. I have had this for so many years that it's just a part of my life. I never thought that this pain could also be an intestinal problem but I do know that I have some endometriosis on my intestine. I just turned 50 and am going to have my colonoscopy this fall. Of course with peri there is no rhyme or reason as to when it hurts and when it stops. Fun times. Hang in there.

Laura
Rosepurple
QUOTE (chira @ Jul 10 2009, 12:47 AM) *
Hi, Sylvia. I, too, get pain in my lower left side before my periods but mine is associated with endometriosis. I have had a laporoscopy to confirm this. I get sharp pains and it hurts to push on the area. I have had this for so many years that it's just a part of my life. I never thought that this pain could also be an intestinal problem but I do know that I have some endometriosis on my intestine. I just turned 50 and am going to have my colonoscopy this fall. Of course with peri there is no rhyme or reason as to when it hurts and when it stops. Fun times. Hang in there.

Laura


Hi Laura

You poor thing, having to put up with endo as well as everything else. It seems that perimenopause makes all existing conditions worse. I know that I get some super horrible hormonal headaches now that leave me totally exhausted after 3 days of full on pain, my IBS is exacerbated, hot flashes, heart ectopics, and the list goes on and on. How come you are having a colonoscopy? I've been told that fluctuating hormones do in fact produce inflammation in the bowel; is this the reason why you are having it? I can't bring myself to have one, but I will repeat the occult blood test soon (they look for microscopic blood in the stools) and this gives a good idea if there is something more serious going on. Hope all is well with you. I'm trying to hang in there, but sometimes it's very tough, isn't it? dry.gif

Be well, Sylvia
chira
Hi, Sylvia. I'm having a colonoscopy this fall just "because". Doctors generally say that age 50 is a good age to have one. Everyone I work with has had "theirs". I'm just trying to make sure everything is okay while I start this next decade of my life.

Good luck with everything.

Laura
mydarling
QUOTE (Rosepurple @ Jul 6 2009, 01:03 AM) *
Hi

I've been reading some of the threads on this forum with much interest and thought that some of the symptoms described in terms of the pain felt during and in between periods could be attributed to irritable bowel syndrome (IBS). I suffer from IBS and find that around period time the pain can be really, really bad (and even in between periods I've had some horrible and inexplicable kinds of pain).

A few days ago I had a period after almost 3 months of not having one and this seems to have really aggravated my IBS. I am now getting over the period but am experiencing inflammation and soreness when I press down on the left side of my abdomen where the bowel loops and goes down. I've had IBS on and off for years and am used to some discomfort, but for some reason this month it's been really bad and I am stressing, thinking it might be something more sinister, even though I've had something similar last year and the year before.

The pain starts just before I have a period and then my ovaries seem to flip out while the period is coming and they hurt like hell, then when the actual period pain calms down I get this weird inflammation sensation (mostly on the left side, but sometimes on the right) and it feels really bad when I do certain movements that jar my body or when I press down on it. The pain is sore and sharp. I've had a couple of ultrasounds in the last 2 years, thinking it was an ovarian cyst that ruptured or something, but all came out normal. I also had an occult blood test where they test stools for microscopic blood in case it's something serious, and that was normal also. I didn't have the courage to have a colonoscopy, but the doctor usually insists on this if she/he finds microscopic blood, which in my case thankfully this wasn't the case. I will be repeating this test soon for peace of mind, but this still doesn't stop me from worrying. I find that with perimenopause it's one thing after another and I am so anxious and depressed that sometimes I don't know what to do.

Does anyone out there suffer from IBS, and if so do your symptoms get worse around period time? Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.

Cheers, Sylvia




Hi Sylvia ... oh yes!!!!!!! I can very much relate to your post .... I deal with IBS as well, and around my period, WATCH OUT! That didn't used to be that way, but since peri hit, oh boy! It's pretty much the way you describe it too, its always on the left, and it can either ache (deeply), feel "sore" when i push on it, (which always made me think i had an ovarian cyst too), and can be sharp as well .... this is really insane, and I believe it's hormonal ... especially since once i get my period, it all goes away! WEll.......not necessarily the first day or two.... but after that i'd say ..... ..... so, yeah, I know what you're feeling, and not only is it painful, but it definately IS depressing!

Rosepurple
QUOTE (mydarling @ Jul 15 2009, 12:15 PM) *
Hi Sylvia ... oh yes!!!!!!! I can very much relate to your post .... I deal with IBS as well, and around my period, WATCH OUT! That didn't used to be that way, but since peri hit, oh boy! It's pretty much the way you describe it too, its always on the left, and it can either ache (deeply), feel "sore" when i push on it, (which always made me think i had an ovarian cyst too), and can be sharp as well .... this is really insane, and I believe it's hormonal ... especially since once i get my period, it all goes away! WEll.......not necessarily the first day or two.... but after that i'd say ..... ..... so, yeah, I know what you're feeling, and not only is it painful, but it definately IS depressing!


Hi there, you don't know how relieved I am to hear you say this even though it's not a good thing that we are both suffering dry.gif Just like you said, about two or three days after my period the whole thing disappeared as if by magic. So now I know that this is IBS exarcebated by hormones. Wow....I would never had believed hormones could be so powerful. Let's hope once we go into full meno the whole thing disappears. Thank you for sharing your story with me; it makes me feel normal again knowing someone out there is in the same boat as me and I'm not a complete looney bin rolleyes.gif

Cheers, Sylvia
Rosepurple
QUOTE (chira @ Jul 15 2009, 02:43 AM) *
Hi, Sylvia. I'm having a colonoscopy this fall just "because". Doctors generally say that age 50 is a good age to have one. Everyone I work with has had "theirs". I'm just trying to make sure everything is okay while I start this next decade of my life.

Good luck with everything.

Laura


Laura, you have courage biggrin.gif . I think I will only go as far as the occult blood test. Good luck with yours and let us know how you get on with it.
peribites
i developed ibs a couple years ago. i had no clue what was going on. i knew i had peri going on and didn't know they might be related. but mine all ties together with the extreme anxiety this has all brought on so celexa and other anti-anxiety meds have helped alot with the ibs. i tell you, it's a god-send. i wasn't able to leave the house for a while, argh. awful.

best of luck to all of you. smile.gif
suzannek101
QUOTE (peribites @ Jul 26 2009, 04:24 PM) *
i developed ibs a couple years ago. i had no clue what was going on. i knew i had peri going on and didn't know they might be related. but mine all ties together with the extreme anxiety this has all brought on so celexa and other anti-anxiety meds have helped alot with the ibs. i tell you, it's a god-send. i wasn't able to leave the house for a while, argh. awful.

best of luck to all of you. smile.gif



Yes, I have bad IBS with my ovulation, post ovulation and period; certain foods aggravate it. A few months back, I went to the doctor and he actually prescribed me Prozac to help with my post ovulatory phase and mentioned that it helps IBS. surprisingly enough it did...I haven't taken it in a few months just cuz I have tried eating healthier and cutting out most sugars have helped my IBS tons.
Apparently there's something in the PRozac that calms your intestines down...
Suzanne
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