I keep calling what I have adrenaline rushes or surges but Im not sure that what they are......of course I think they are something serious........but they come out of no where and only last for about 20-30 secs.........they start in my stomach with a butterfly feeling then spread through out my body a numb and tingling feeling........but the scarest thing is my mind goes blank or I hear things that arent really going on.......Im not even sure Im describing it right but there doesnt seem to be anyway to really describe it right..........but I just feel like I leave my body for those few secs and nothing seems real......it only last for a few secs but scares the crap out of me...I sometimes go weeks without them but then they come back and I will have 1 or 2 a day..so Im wondering what others feel when having an "adrealine rush or surge"................Valerie

also wanted to add that I take xanax and it doesnt make a difference with these adrenaline things.....it helps with anxiety but not these.....beta blockers helped when I started them but they have returned.........Valerie

Valerie
I also get these rushes. Aren't they horrible? Mine come out of now where too and start at my stomach and work up to head. I have alot of anxiety going on and not sure if thats related. I take Klonopin for anxiety and sleep.
I've been taking Paxil for 8 months now and I'm thinking I might have to up the dose a bit. It seems like there's been more downs then good lately.
So I know what your feeling....
hugs char

name='scaredvalerie' date='Jun 29 2009, 05:02 PM' post='293272']
I keep calling what I have adrenaline rushes or surges but Im not sure that what they are......of course I think they are something serious........but they come out of no where and only last for about 20-30 secs.........they start in my stomach with a butterfly feeling then spread through out my body a numb and tingling feeling........but the scarest thing is my mind goes blank or I hear things that arent really going on.......Im not even sure Im describing it right but there doesnt seem to be anyway to really describe it right..........but I just feel like I leave my body for those few secs and nothing seems real......it only last for a few secs but scares the crap out of me...I sometimes go weeks without them but then they come back and I will have 1 or 2 a day..so Im wondering what others feel when having an "adrealine rush or surge"................Valerie

also wanted to add that I take xanax and it doesnt make a difference with these adrenaline things.....it helps with anxiety but not these.....beta blockers helped when I started them but they have returned.........Valerie

Hi Valerie,
I have this too! I wake up sometimes in a panic for no reason. It feels just like that! It scares me very much but quickly leaves!! I sometimes have my ears
to plug for a minute and then return. Very strange!!!


Kim

Not sure if that's what I've been having but they sure sound similar. Trouble is, I have anxiety disorder and sometimes have panic attacks. My anxiety disorder was under control on paxil until I started having these "spells" in December. Unfortunately, I have them about every five minutes all day long and have to take LOTS of meds to sleep at night. Even with all the medication to sleep, I still wake up feeling like I've already had ten pots of coffee!! I still haven't figured out if all this is hormone related because I can't get any MD to check my hormone levels, but Dr. Vliet's book "It's my ovaries, Stupid" says these "adrenaline bursts" are the bodies reaction to fluctuating hormones. (falling estrogen, if I remember correctly).

Im sorry that others have to suffer with them also.......but on the other hand Im glad that Im not losing my mind........I just wish they would stop.......I cant seem to relate them to anything......even when my anxiety is low I can still get them......and Im 2yrs post so when will my body adjust?.....just wish the doctors could give us the answers.......and i never had anxiety problems til 8 months without a period.........Valerie

I have had this too, the exact way you are describing. It is awful. You are not alone. Yes, the anxiety then builds from there.

Enough......do you get the weird mind thing too while this is happening?.........thats what scares me the most even though it passes fast....Valerie

((((((((Valerie)))))))))))))))) not sure if what I get is the same thing. Sometimes when I stand up it feels like my head gets really full for like 30 seconds...and my ears feel clogged. I've have such severe anxiety for several weeks now...every day, it's dreadful and I'm 2 years+ with no period myself. I sure hope this passes for all of us.

(((((((Karen)))))))).......I get that sometimes when I stand up too........but it isnt the same as one of my rushes.........the doc said the standing up thing with the head fullness is most likely when my bp is low or Im dehydrated (cuz I hate drinking water).........but I have been trying to drink more.......and whats up with us still feeling this way 2 yrs after stopping??........but we have to have faith that it will get better SOON!!...........hugs Valerie

I'm nearly 2 years post too and also get that feeling on standing up.....I do have low blood pressure though, that's what I thought the problem was?

Yes, I also get the full head feeling.....it makes my anxiety worse or vice versa?!

Just call me darlin and you can cry on my shoulder

I get the weird mind thing too. I think that comes from the anxiety that arises from the rush. It can scare the crap out of me and then it takes a while to recover. I feel out of sorts for hours, hoping it doesn't come back. this is a very rough time of life, one that I hope goes quick for all of us.

the quicker the better but I have been having them off and on for 2 yrs now........sometimes I go weeks without them but then they hit again......I cant take them anymore!......Valerie

I'm the same as you, yesterday was bad... today OK. These hormones really need to get a grip already!

Dear Valerie

You are describing what I get for about 3 to 4 days a month. I'm post menopause and I feel fine except for these days. It starts in your abdomen and works up to your head. I start feeliong a little sick to my stomach and a mild ache on my right side. I describe these symptoms to doctors and I get that look of I heard it before. My blood work was good
(went to dcotor for physical 3 months ago). I ask myself every time when is it going to stop. Take care!

Barbara

Barbara........boy do I know that look........sometimes its a look of "I think your crazy" lol......this has been going on for almost 2 yrs for me.......once a female gyno said to me that she has heard of it once before.........I cant believe that in this huge area I live in that Im the only one who gets this.....all of my blood work is great.......and like I have said I get them even when Im feeling great and having a good day..........Valerie

Here we go again today...shake, shake, shake, hyper feeling, irritable...one of those days I know I'm going to end up taking an anxiety med. How can these hormones fluctuate so drastically in a day! Post over 2 years, I'm ready to be done NOW! Maybe I just have an anxiety problem?

I think its still part of meno........or did u have anxiety problems before meno..........a friend of mine has been post for many yrs and still has periods of anxiety once in awhile...........Valerie

Oh, believe me, the hormones have a death grip on me! I've been having these "rushes" and waves of panic with constant anxiety for seven months now, and I'm only 40!! If this is what I have to look at until years after menopause, I hope menopause starts tomorrow! I can't take them anymore either!

((((((((((((((group hug)))))))))))))))))))

I mostly get the "feigned sympathy-I have no idea what you're talking about-yep, it's all in your head" look. Having been diagnosed with anxiety disorder doesn't help. Once a doctor has a diagnosis that they think covers it all, they never look any further.

its not really in my stomach.. but more feels like my diaphram ? then sort of dizzy then spacey and I dont feel normal for a long while .. I've only had it happen twice though. that was months ago .. some major swing in hormones my guess ??

I have been post for 6 yrs and still have awful anxiety. I had to take something today. Called my psyc doc today and he wants to increase my Paxil and see how it goes. I'm totally freaking out over this. When I look back on my life I've always been nervous and full of anxiety.
It might just be as we get older we just have to accept the feelings that go on with our lives. Take your meds when you need them and do what u need to feel better NOW....hang in there babe...char

Char,
I think you may be right and we have to accept it all. I too have been the nervous type all my life but not to this extent..shaking part. I guess we have to hope if it never goes away that maybe it will at least lessen.

I have the "adrenaline rushes" too, and have also gotten "the look" from my doctor. I seem to get them more at night, waking me out of a sound sleep. They come and go, I can't find anything particular thing to attribute them to, other than hormones.
At least we can come on this website and compare notes!

just adding to the variations on the adrenaline rushes that might be helpful to women out there who find their bodies to be doing alien things. my adrenaline rushes run down the interior of my inner thighs, usually comes along with a night sweat and is comparable to how one feels coming out of a really bad dream... you feel paralized.

I am not sure if these are the same thing, but whenever I wake up from a nap or sleep I have been getting these rushes throughout my body also. It is only when I am waking up though. I also have depression and am not sure if this is part of the depression or what. It starts in my stomach and works its way up, then I just feel miserable. Does anyone get these when awakening? Always something, isn't it!!

Scbev.......I get those also....thats why even when Im tired in the afternoon I try hard not to nap because I hate the way I feel when I wake up......its not the same as the rushes I get out of no where but they are close to it,.......it is just an rotten feeling waking up that way,,,,,,,but it does make me feel better knowing Im not alone in getting these.........even though Im sorry others have to suffer with them also.........Valerie

Thanks Valerie. At least I know that it is just not me who feels this way. This is just awful, isn't it? But like you said it feels better knowing that we are not alone.
Bev

This is the worst feeling in the world! I thought it was just me that got this symptom! I will literally go deaf for a few moments the fullness is so intense. They sent me to an ENT for this and came back with anxiety vertigo.......it comes and goes and you never know when it is going to happen. Used to be really scary....now just more of a nuisance than anything.

Hello ladies
Yes I also get these when awakening. Every friken morning... When I lay on the couch in the afternoon I will doze off for maybe 10 minutes and BAM I wake up with the surges. It kind of takes my breath away. So I try not to nap.

Add me to the list can relate to all of you they start in my stomach, muscles tight dizziness feel strange all over and yes the anxiety, then the crying because I hate all this could take awhile to go away

Hiya,
What you're describing is a classic panic attack - I know because I've had them from around the age of 25. I no longer get them as I learnt how to deal with them effectively. The BEST advice I can give you is to read any books by Dr Claire Weekes (power over panic etc.) - what she says is so true and is sound good common sense. The more you "fear" them - the more they'll happen and they more you let them control you the more often you will get them. I often feel one impending but I immediately "let it happen" and it doesn't anymore. It only took me a few weeks to master the technique of letting it wash over me without getting anxious or fussed (I know it doesn't sound easy but it suprisingly is once you've read Dr Weekes works).
I still suffer from some generalised anxiety but nowhere near what it used to be before applying her principles - and all of these are drug free also.
Waking with a panic attack at night is distressing but the same principles can be used. The major key is NOT to "fight" it - fighting it produces even more adrenaline and will prolong the attack. The feeling in your head you describe is "depersonalisation" and common with panic attacks - so please don't be scared of them and tell them to "eff off"!! Dr Weekes books are widely available everywhere - they are now quite old but still recommended by most cognitive therapists. Best of luck - I will be praying for your relief!! xx

Do you ever feel that you just dropped , like in an elevator or over a hill in a car ?

Yes I get these feelings when I am watching TV or when my body is still and go to move, it's like weeeeeee. I have had this for a long time, so I try not to worry about them.

That's what I'm talking about flashes without the heat.A couple of years ago I had the real adrenaline with them,tingly,lite headed,and nauseous.I'd tell my DH about the adrenaline coming up and he'd say "cool go for a run" It probably has something to do with adrenals taking over to produce hormones.Anyway I don't have as much adrenalin but still have "the spells" Lumz

I am 8 years post and have these rushes once a month for about 3 days. They start in your abdomen and bang you get lightheaded and wierd things go through your head and they are gone. I feel that this happens when you should have had a period. They don't seem as bad as they were a year ago, however, I wish they go the BEEP away. I don't like things messing with my head!
Take care

Lumz makes an important point here. Our adrenal glands produce additional hormones, including estrogen. When the ovaries "pause," the adrenals work to compensate, which can cause adrenergic surges. These can range from uncomfortable to terrifying, depending on our stress levels. If we have a lot of outside stressors at the time our bodies are trying to compensate/rebalance, the symptoms seem to be much more intense. It's so important to slow down and take care of our spiritual and emotional selves! I am climbing out of a period of anxiety attacks that were so bad my mid section would "burn" when I had these surges. (I didn't realize what these were for several months). I do much the same as Mishkins describes above, and it is helping. In addition to accepting my situation and reducing stress, I have also focused on healthy nutrition, viatmin D, exercise, meridian tapping, and positive relationships.

Here is an important, informative quote from an article about adrenal fatigue/hormones from an article by Dr. Mercola @ Mercola.com:
"Interestingly the very first step in normalizing sex hormones, either male or female, is to first address the adrenal hormone system. For example if you were to only measure female hormones and then replace them with bioidentical hormone therapy, you will virtually be guaranteed to fail because the weakened adrenals will never allow the hormones to equilibrate properly."

I wish everyone here the very best as we make our way(s) through this journey...

Hugs,

JC

Mine leave an almost electric taste in my mouth, hard to describe, starts in stomach like I am frightened but a harsher feeling and then inevitably the hot hot heat comes up the spine and the sweat is hideous.
I hate napping, never liked it, always woke up feeling disoriented and sad and weepy, I think sleeping and catnapping are gifts!! But to enjoy a nap and then have these happen ...
But one of the posts advised HRT or ERT so am going to look into that as well. I can't believe the fatigue I feel, until I get moving for a walk, that always brightens my body and mind up.

I thought mine had gone away but the past two mornings I have woken up out of an okay sleep feeling surge-y. It didn't feel like restless legs just like rushes throughout my body...a little tingly...some heat, but not a real hot flash where I began to wet. Surges go all the way through me to my hands and feet. One other thing is that I am getting up almost every morning to go pee. That's how it was when I was pregnant but I'm NOT pregnant. I just finished a period or will by the end of today I think. I'd never had any of this surging before this past summer. I am almost 31. My OB/GYN did look at me like I was crazy and said he had NO idea why I was feeling this way. Some help he was... I am considering visiting an endocrinologist. Do you think that is a good move on my part?
By the way, I did take a half of a xanex this morning to just see if it was anxiety related and it didn't seem to make a difference. I think eating helps, but I'm not positive.

if you go to an endocrinologist, make sure it's a reproductive endo that treats menopause symptoms also. this is what my female eye doc told me. all the best to you.
linda

Hi - I would have a thorough obs/gyne exam in the event you have a fibroid pressing on bladder, plus ask for bloodwork to determine your FSH levels as well as thyroid end endo levels. Sounds like your hormones are out of whack for some reason, but you shouldn't be having these surges and heats and sweats - unless it is around the time of your period?

When I had my period, I never had surges or sweats, just incredible pain and heavy flow like Niagara Falls. Now that I am totally over and in full meno I am just sweating it out - and the surges are weird, like your body is electrified, sometimes just once, but have counted up to 7 in a row with horrible sweats and heat like I cannot believe. I said to my husband "it is like your body is trying to start up its engine, but there is no gas, but it keeps trying ..." and I have decided against any ER or HRT, I will give it one full year to sweat the estrogen out (was on BCP since I was 16 ... so that is 41 years having a period ... and 37 years on the pill) as that is about as much as I can take.

But that full feeling, like the bladder is full all the time - I have that now too, but no fibroids or anything pressing, have no idea why Mother Nature does this to us ... but you are young, have it checked out by a female gyne (sorry, I don't understand male obs/gyne docs, worked with a few ...).

Good luck!