My head is still spinning.... How much did he make per second? Progest is very protective...and they stopped the study on doing just E because of all of the negative sides.

I had one new doc that first put me on his scales. They were 9lbs more than mine at home. I thought I was going to have a heart attack! Then he said...Now, lets take your blood pressure!
I could feel my heart beating hard in my chest. The nurse took my blood pressure; it was off the charts! Then he came in and gave me two scripts. One for cholesterol (he did not even do blood work!) The other was for high blood pressure. I asked how long do I need to stay on these. He said for life. What an a__. I told him that I usually had very low blood pressure. He said that was not his opinion. Then he walked out the door. (30 second visit)

Can you imagine what damage would have been done to me if I had taken his meds? How many other people just do what doctors tell them to do?



I, too, walked out the door just like he did, and I never returned. I would advise you to take a permanent walk also.

Call a compounding pharm. and ask for a list of doctors that are BHRT friendly. I am sorry that you were treated like this. I bet he loses a lot of patients and harms a lot of them, too.


I like a doctor who listens to me. My doc says that if he listens carefully, the patient will tell him the problem. He also says that most people know what is wrong with them. He is very open to suggestions and enjoys new information. My doc gets five Stars!

Shebee

Thanks Shebee,

I am with you all the way.....I NEVER listen to what a doctor says about meds. I research things for myself. I think that some doctors just want the kick backs from the drug companies, it's easy to put everyone on some kind of med and they can take it for years. I would really have to weigh it out for myself.

I am so stuck right now. We are paying a huge amount for our health care. My husbands illness caused him to retire from his job, he cannot work, he is ill and probably will not recover. We have to pay the cobra policy out of pocket. I am reduced to seeing "their" doctors that are on the "plan".

It's okay, I'm so glad that I have my PS sisters, together we learn so much. I realize that taking estrogel without the P may cause a problem, so once I get my ultrasound, I will know more. I will be very cautious about it.

Having a doctor who actually sits down and talks with you, is not how ANY of these doctors act. They spent more time on the paperwork and my co-pay, then the actual visit.

Thanks for your comments, I appreciate all your advice.

Juliann

Good morning!

I am curious about your comment that it makes a difference whether you take oral or transdermal E with progesterone. Maybe it has to do with the end product????
I've been on both and my doctor told me regardless, I have to take P. There is so much conflicting information out there it is no wonder we are confused.
In the back of my mind, it is probably part of the reason I have come off HT for now.

I feel for you guys having to stick with a certain "group" of physicians because of your health insurance. It must be so scary sometimes seeing so many new doctors.

I hope you can find someone who will take the time to listen to your concerns. With your husband not being well, the last thing you need is any crap.

Cathy

I have read numerous times that P-cream is not a good protection from endometrial hyperplasia, it has been proven that absorbtion rate of the topical progesterone is not constistent, some women absorn it, others don't.
I personally would never take E without P, either oral or vaginal. However, I don't think P protects from breast cancer, there are estrogen positive and progesterone positive breast cancers, so not much protection here.
I just think P is good to use with estrogen, and vaginal route also goes into the blood stream, no matter what we are told.

Think birth control, the patch, the ring, there are many delivery systems and in all cases hormones make their way into blood stream.
If I get on BHRT again, this time it will be vaginal progesterone, as I had poor results with P-cream, sublingual, and oral.
I know some doctors that think that vaginal route for all hormones is the way to go, problem is, it is not the most convinient route.
I will just put my 2 cents.

Hi Cathy,

Yes it is all so confusing. I don't understand it either. My prior doctor (whom I really did like), she was the one who told me that using the "Estrogel" was okay to skip the P if it made me feel bad. She said that if I was on the oral, then she would insist that I take P with it. I literally sat in her office and argued with her and told her that I had never heard of this and kept telling her to check her facts, she insisted that it was okay. So, I don't know, I don't know if I believe it. Then I go to see this doctor yesterday, and he just blows me off and tells me not to worry about it either???

If I didn't work, I would just try and taper off them completely. But I have such a hectic and demanding job, I don't think I could handle it right now if I started to go "nuts" with symptoms.

Thank you for your kind words.

Juliann

Juliann,
I doubt you can skip the cream because you use transdermal Estradiol, is your doctor thinks because it is not oral, it is not systemic and is harmless?
I would start thinking to find another doctor. Progesterone is not our friend, this goes for 90% of women, but it is friend of uterus, for sure, and fetus, when we are pregnant.
Those doctors are really need to brash on the HRT, I can't believe they tell you it is OK to use unoppose estradiol gel, read the label on the estradiol and also, check the black box on estradiol on the web, perhaps, it is better to try vaginal P gel, which protects uterus without causing much systemic symptoms.
Just a thought.
I.

Iradan,

We have both read the same thing. I know that everything points to only using E with P. I think it's weird that actual doctors vary on the usage of these hormones. It really confused me, it made me wonder.

I have a drawer full of "prometrium", so last month I took it for about 9 days, it was awful but I did it. I did not get a bleed from it, but I figured that it was good enough to just get the P into my system. I have tried the vaginal P, it is not that much better really. Each person will have to try it out and see if it works.

You are right, many, many doctors do not understand hormones or treatment, if you want a good doctor, you must be willing to pay private.

Thanks for your thoughts,

Juliann