Progesterone being the pregnancy hormone and increasing appetite can cause weight gain yet supposedly it helps thyroid and burn fat for energy as well, also being a natural diuretic. Then estrogen can inhibit thyroid, stores itself in fat cells and causes water retention but several of you have done well in losing weight when estrogen is optimal.

What I don't get about estrogen then if it helps with weight loss is why in world are animals pumped up with estrogen in order to FATTEN them up??? This is a known fact and some women do fatten up on estrogen replacement as well. It would seem if the poultry etc is being fattened up with estrogen then some complaints women have on replacement therapy of bloating and weight gain make sense so how is it proposed it helps with weight loss? Similar on that note has anyone had success losing weight on progesterone instead?

Ok and another question on this one...if Progesterone is the make you fat and pregnancy hormone then why aren't they fattening the cattle up with P instead of E?

shar14,

Boy I sure wished someone would answer your post. I have been faced with fluctuating hormones again and is really messing with my cycles. Been going every two months since las December and now I have had two cycles two weeks apart and am still spotting. I have been on Progesterone troche since October and now doctor thinks we need to take a bit of estrogen to settle cycles down. It was the estrogen domiance that started all this. This seems backwards, but I am having a tough time getting my head around all this hormone stuff. All I know it is a pain in the rear. I just want my life back, my energy back and this 20 pounds I have gained gone. I wished I could find a doctor that had a better understanding of this and would quit "well let's try this" and "maybe" this will work. This stuff is enough to make a girl crazy.

Thanks for listening to my partial rant.

fitnesslady

With me, estrogen supplementation tends to dissipate my appetite but keep extra pounds on. BUT, with estrogen on board I have the energy to hit the gym regularly and otherwise stay active. Without it, I am an inert lump. Progesterone is intolerable for me, but when I've had to tough it out, it doesn't cause weight gain or increase my appetite. I know it does for many here, though.

As for livestock, maybe their cooped up/sedentary feed lot conditions contribute to the 'marbling' we know as fat?
GK

Unfortunately, trial & error is necessary for women to find balance. It is a pain, though and a sometimes long and arduous process. Meats not organically raised are fed a number of things that increase body weight..estrogen, growth hormone, and antibiotics among them. Most stock need to reproduce, so it probably wouldn't make sense to tamper with fertility with progesterone.
Both progesterone and estrogen can cause weight gain in susceptible women, especially if out of balance. I don't necessarily subscribe to the "estrogen dominance" theory, BUT I do think that progesterone is essential for wellness and mimicking the body's own rhythms. Estrogen can sometimes be a factor in "pear shape" type weight gain and progesterone, especially if converted straight to cortisol, can cause some belly/love handle area weight increases.
AFF

This and a grain based diet, mainly corn, that causes intramuscular fat accumulation in cattle and humans as well.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m120...61/ai_82512511/
Actually, hormones are given to cattle to make them gain muscle faster, hence testosterone, while keeping them in feed lots and feeing corn, makes they grow big with intramuscular fat, and less subcutaneous, outside of the muscle fat, which is usually a waste. Without this manipulation, it would take 2 years at least, for a steer to grow to be ready to slaughter, with hormones and grains it takes 8 months or less.
They use estrogen and progestine to shut down cow's ovaries, so thjey won't reporoduce, only dairy cows allotted to get pregnant.

Male cattle are generally what are used for meet..e.g., steers. My paternal grandfather raised beef cattle and my maternal grandfather, dairy.
Female cattle of both types are encouraged to reproduce and are usually bred yearly.

Thanks, I thought so they slaughter only steers.
I just knew that they use hormones to make them gain lean mucles mass, when fat phobia has spread, customers demand tilted towards less fatty cuts, everyone wanted lean beef, so they started to use testosterone and also to make them gain mass faster.
I buy meat from local farmer, in bulk, organic, no hormones, and 100% grass and fed and it is very lean, not much marbeling to speak of, but the flavor is exceptional. if there a fat outside the muscle, and it is always yellow, never white, as it contains Omega-3 from grass. I hope they will get back to sustainable agriculture, so beef /dairy will be hormones free and grass fed, so much healthier for both, humans and animals.

I you haven't read Michael Pollan's Power Steer' article from March 2002, it's definitely worth a look. You can follow the process from calves at auction straight into happy meals. This changed our meat-purchasing habits for good.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/31/magazine/power-steer.html

GK

I have read this one a while ago, made me research and find local grass fed beef, glad I did.
I buy beef and dairy only from local organic farmers.

I have been having horrible headaches for three weeks. I do not normally get headaches,my gyn suggested taking prempro. I am trying to diet and I know it sounds stupid, but I don't want to gain weight. I do have mild "heat strokes" and it would be nice to get the other special side effects of meno under control. I know everyone is different, but really I wonder how many women have weight gain from this drug?

I am on progesterone only birth control pills, and I take soy. That seems to help with the palps, hot flashes, etc. But I have put on a LOT of weight.I believe it is the progeterone. I was on the depo shot a few years ago and gained a lot of weight with that as well.Has anyone been able to keep the progesterone weight off, and how did you do it?