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Shawna7
Hi, Ladies....

Someone sent this to me so I thought I'd share it. Hopefully, it will help someone else.

I was reading somewhere that our bodies are in a constant state of anxiety during perimenopause/menopause due to fluxuating horomones. It's like our bodies are going through withdrawl and our brains are constantly sending warning signals...our bodies just can't/won't do what it used to. Anyway, it got me thinking...if our bodies are in a constant state of anxiety due to our horomones, doesn't that make peri/menopause one huge anxiety/panic attack? Take a look at this list of anxiety symptoms....they're all peri/menopause symptoms. I know I've experienced them all. dry.gif

What do you guys think?

Common Anxiety/Panic Attack Symptoms

Here are some of the many symptoms associated with anxiety disorder (because each person has a unique chemical make up, the symptoms and their intensity will vary from person to person):

Shortness of breath
You feel that your breathing is forced and labored. You become conscious of how you are breathing and you have a hard time catching your breath. It seems like you have to force yourself to breathe, in fear that if you don't, you'll stop breathing and die. Or, for no apparent reason, you feel out of breath and find yourself doing an unusual amount of yawning in an attempt to catch your breath.

Persistent muscle tension
You feel like your muscles are always tight or strained, sometimes to the point of frequent pain, or even persistent and ongoing pain. Some may also find the pain so restricting and debilitating that it prevents physical activity, and sometimes to the point of becoming bed ridden. It's also common to experience pain or cramps in any of the body's muscles.

Heart – beating hard or too fast
Your heart feels and sounds as though it is pounding unusually hard in your chest. You become aware of the heart's action and you fear there may be a problem with it. Sometimes it may beat unusually fast or feel like it is racing for no apparent reason. Heart - Irregular heart rhythms, flutters or ‘skipped’ beatsYour heart feels like it skips a beat or flops in your chest. It sometimes may feel like a tickle in your chest that makes you cough. If you take your pulse, you'll notice that sometimes the beats are unevenly spaced.

Dizziness or light-headedness
You feel suddenly light-headed, woozy or dizzy. This is sometimes accompanied by a feeling that you might faint or pass out. It also may feel as though you are walking on a boat, or that the floor seems to move up and down and it's hard to balance. You may also have difficulty placing your feet because your perception of the ground or floor may be incorrect. In some cases it may seem that even though you are standing on a firm floor, the floor may be vibrating or moving. Weak legs, rubber legsYour legs feel so weak that you think they won't be able to support you. In some cases you might feel you won't be able to walk. Sometimes your legs may feel like jelly or rubber, or that you have to force yourself to walk. You may even feel as though your legs or knees are too stiff to move.

Trembling or shaking
Your arms, hands, legs and even your entire body may feel shaky or like they are trembling or vibrating. Sometimes you feel like you can’t stop yourself from shaking or trembling.

Choking
You feel as though there is something stuck in your throat or sometimes feel there is a lump in your throat. Other times you may feel that you can barely swallow or that there is a tightness in the throat, or that you have to really force yourself to swallow. Sometimes this feeling can lead you to think that you may suffocate or get something stuck in your throat.

Sweating
For no apparent reason you break into hot or cold sweats. You may also experience hot flashes or excessive sweating for no reason. Nausea or abdominal stressYou may feel bloated or gaseous, or that there is a lump in your stomach. Sometimes you may feel like you have butterflies in your stomach or that your stomach is tight. Some people refer to it as a 'heavy' stomach. Others experience over acidity or persistent nausea. Some may even vomit as a result. Some describe it as a ‘warm’ feeling in the gut. The thought of eating makes you nauseousSometimes even the thought of eating something will turn your stomach or make you nauseous.

Lack of appetite or taste
Sometimes you just don’t feel like eating, or the thought of food is unappealing. Or, that even though you are eating, the food has no taste or is unsatisfying.

A ‘tinny’, ‘metallic’ or ‘ammonia’ smell or taste
You have a persistent ‘tinny’, ‘metallic’ or ‘ammonia’ smell in your nose, or you taste it often and it’s not from your food or environment. Often it’s just there, but you can’t figure out why. It may come and go, or persist for some time.

Feeling of unreality, or feeling disconnected from the real world, dreamlike
You feel like you are not a part of what is going on, or that you feel like you are in a dream state or ‘out of touch with things’. Also, things around you may seem like they are shimmering, foggy, hazy or too bright.

Numbness or tingling in hands and feet
You feel pins and needles in your hands and feet, or other parts of your body. Sometimes you get a feeling like a particular area of your body is numb or frozen. Other times you may feel a burning sensation in your arms, legs or face.

The sensation of burning skin
You have a burning skin sensation like you have a bad sun burn, but there are no apparent burn marks. The burning sensations move around the body randomly and can persist for long periods of time. Often, these burning sensations are magnified by stressful situations or fear-producing thoughts.

Chest pain or discomfort
You may experience a tightness or pressure in the chest. Sometimes you may feel shooting pains, or muscle twitches, or just an uneasiness or fullness in the chest area which causes you concern. Some think they may be having a heart attack.

Fear of losing control
In a crowd or group, you may feel that you will do something to make you feel embarrassed like passing out, vomiting, gagging, stumbling and so on. You may feel that you might not be able to control your body or what you'll say. You may become very self-conscious among people. Urgency to urinateYou have an urgent need to go to the washroom, even though you may have just gone. And, when you do go, there are very little results.

Frequent urination
You have to go to the bathroom more often than normal, even though you may have just gone a little while ago.

Fear of going crazy
You suddenly become afraid that you might lose your mind or that you are not able to think. You may also feel that you are not able to remember things as easily as you once did. Sometimes you become afraid of having a nervous breakdown. You also may have periods of 'crazy' thoughts that frighten you, or that thoughts ‘just pop up’ that are bothersome by the content.

Fear of dying
You fear that what you have is terminal and nobody knows. You may also fear that the chest pains are a deadly heart attack or that the shooting pains in your head are the result of a tumor or aneurysm. You feel that any one of the symptoms you experience are life threatening. You feel an intense fear when you think of dying, or you may think of it more often than normal, or can’t get it out of your mind.

A feeling of impending doom
You feel as though something extremely bad is going to happen but you are not sure what. You may also feel as though your world is coming to an end.

Chronic Fatigue
You become extremely exhausted, burnt out or have no energy. You may feel tired all of the time and find even small tasks to be unusually tiring. You have no stamina and feel that you could sleep all day and then wake up still tired.

Eye tricks
You may see stars or movements out of the corner of your eyes that don't exist. You may also see flashing lights in your eyes or your vision may seem almost kaleidoscope-like. Sometimes you may feel that there is a dark object or something just on the outside edge of your vision, or that your vision is narrowing.

Dry mouth
You find it hard to swallow because of a lack of saliva. Your tongue feels dry or sticky.

Excess of energy
You feel so excited that you could do everything incredibly fast and then look for other things to do. You may also feel like you have to run or do something right now just to burn off the energy. Sometimes you can't sleep because your mind or body is going a million miles an hour. You feel as if you have energy to burn, and then some. You feel always 'pumped'. You also may feel as if you can't sit still or relax.

You feel you can’t relax
You have so much to do, or you have so much nervous energy that you can’t relax. Even slowing down for a moment is difficult. When you want to relax and rest, you can’t sit still, or have a million thoughts going on that make it hard to relax.

You often feel you are carrying the world on your shoulders
You often feel that you are responsible for far too many things, and that if you stopped, nothing would get done. Often you feel that you have the weight of the world on your shoulders and no way to get rid of it.

Stiffness
A particular joint in your body feels unusually stiff and sore, or hard to move. It may even feel arthritic. Sometimes you feel you may be ‘seizing up’.

Unusually afraid of normal things
You may become afraid of something that you had normally thought was not fearful. It may be a sudden fear of being alone, a fear of inanimate objects moving or talking, or an unsubstantiated fear for your safety to name a few (the fear that you may hurt someone or yourself when using a household knife is common--for example, you fear that you may uncontrollably stab a child, mate or yourself when using a kitchen knife).

Depression
You feel you are now uncharacteristically down or sad for no apparent reason. You may feel like crying all of the time, and yet not be sure why. Sometimes you may feel that things don't seem to be going your way even when they are. Or, you may feel that you don’t love someone anymore, even when there is no explainable reason to feel that way. You may also feel that nothing is going your way and that there’s no pleasure, or point in living. You may also feel like just giving up.

Dramatic mood swings
You are extremely happy one day and, for no apparent reason, become extremely sad or down the next. One minute you are optimistic and the next you are depressed. Simple discussions may seem too difficult to handle.

Insomnia, or waking up ill in the middle of the night
You may feel fine and be able to quickly fall asleep but then wake up a short time later. Once up, you can't easily fall back to sleep because your mind is racing or you are too ill. Or, you may have a hard time initially falling asleep and when you do, you wake often and again have a hard time going back to sleep. You may also wake in a panic attack.

Jolting awake
Just as you are dozing off to sleep, you feel like you hear a lot bang, buzz or shot, and that jolts you fully awake. Or, as you are dozing off, you feel like you are falling and that frightens you fully awake. Or, you are just dozing off and your body radically twitches awake.

Bad or crazy dreams
You may wake up in a panic and recall the dream you just had as being bizarre and totally crazy. This usually has you spending some time trying to figure out what caused the bad dream and what the bad dream is trying to tell you.

Uncontrollable muscle twitching
For no apparent reason, a particular muscle will begin to twitch. This twitching will continue for an unusual amount of time before it stops of its own accord. Sometimes it twitches so long it becomes sore, and may continue on and off for days.

Emotions feel wrong
For some reason, your emotions don't feel right. For example, someone whom you care deeply about for some reason you now get a weird feeling from. You can't put your finger on it, and you know it shouldn't be that way, but it just is. Or another example maybe, doing something you really like and for no reason, all of a sudden doesn't feel good and you don't know why.

Blurred vision
It seems your vision is blurry or out of focus, and it's more apparent now than before.

Eyes are sensitive to light
There are times when your eyes seem more sensitive to light than at others, even to a point of regular light being too bright so that you have to wear sunglasses or squint.

Dry, watery or itchy eyes
You feel as though your eyes are either always dry, constantly watering or itchy. And often, your eyes are red or 'glossy' looking. Even a good night's rest doesn't help.

Always being on edge or 'grouchy'
Sometimes your patience seems like it is totally gone and little things that won't normally be a concern now become really irritating and frustrating. Your patience seems non-existent. Every little thing sets you off, even normal family sounds become almost too much to handle, and you have a hard time controlling your temper.

Have difficulty concentrating
Normal tasks seem hard to focus on, or that your concentration is a lot shorter now than before. You may also start something, and uncharacteristically forget what you were doing soon after. You may also have difficulty remembering where you placed things, who you just called, or what you were looking for or thinking about.

Startle easily
You feel you startle more easily now than before. Even small sounds or common sounds startle you, and almost to the point of panic. Or, an event may frighten you, but more so than the event calls for. You may seem very over-reactionary or unusually ‘jumpy’.

Constant craving for sugar or sweets
For some reason you have an increased and ongoing craving for sugar, sweets or chocolate. Although you may have a 'sweet tooth', these craving usually go unsatisfied, while even more leaves you with the same result.

Repetitive thinking or incessant ‘mind chatter’
Your mind is racing all the time, and it never stops its chatter. Even when you are trying to relax your mind is going a million miles and hour. Sometimes songs will pop up that you can’t get out or your mind, and you sing them all day long, and even for days on end.

Obsession about sensations or getting better
This a big one. A thought process develops where the person is constantly trying to figure this illness out, or is constantly checking their body for twinges, aches or pains, and odd sensations. They also begin checking (often referred to as ‘testing’) their mental thoughts to see if there is a hint of physical or mental illness somewhere. As a person begins to get better, this process seems more entrenched and becomes more apparent. Also, you may find yourself doing this at every leisure moment, then getting into a mental battle with yourself to try and stop doing it. It also may seem that your mind is always 'going', and you can't seem to stop yourself from thinking, analyzing and problem solving about getting better.

You feel like you are under pressure all the time
You may feel like you just can’t get any breaks, or that you are under pressure all the time, with no way to relieve it. You may also feel that you can’t stop. Everything’s success depends upon you.

Constant feeling of being overwhelmed
This is a close cousin to the point previous, but you feel so under pressure that you feel overwhelmed by everything, and that there is no way out. This feeling is persistent and bothersome. Even just the thought of it causes fear and anxiety to overwhelm you.

Always feeling angry and lack of patience
Every little thing sets you off. While you used to be calm and collected, you now find yourself angry at almost everything, and it’s been a long time since you felt otherwise. When it comes to managing tasks, you find you have very little patience, and even simple matters make you angry and impatient.

Feel like crying all the time, often for no apparent reason
Once strong and resilient, able to handle anything, now you find yourself breaking down into tears for little or no reason. You may also suddenly feel the urge to cry, and you are not sure why, but you feel sad.

Unusually frightening thoughts or feelings
You may feel frightened or have fearful feelings about almost everything. Even small challenges well up fear in you and seem difficult or destined to doom or failure.

Sore or tight scalp or back of the neck
Your scalp feels sore, has shooting pains, or that the back of your neck and head are very tense.

Other symptoms are described as:
Being like a hypercondriac, muscle twinges, worry all the time, tingles, gagging, tightness in the throat, tightness in the chest, tongue twitches, feel like passing out, shaky, vomiting, breath lump, heart beat problems, head tingles, itchy tingling in arms and legs, and so many more.

In addition to these symptoms, you may also find yourself worrying compulsively about:• Having a heart attack• Having a serious undetected illness• Dying prematurely• Going insane or loosing your mind• Harming yourself or someone you love uncontrollably• Being embarrassed or making a fool out or yourself• Losing control• Fainting in public• Not breathing properly• Choking or suffocating• Being alone

These are some of the more common symptoms, but this list is certainly not exhaustive. It is common for people to experience one or more of these symptoms. While some may experience them all others may experience only a few.
© Jim Folk 1987 - 2004
Shawna7
Note...Sorry, I just noticed a couple symptoms got lumped with others. I didn't catch those when reposting. I can't figure out how to edit or I would change it.
surreallife
'our bodies are in a constant state of anxiety during perimenopause/menopause due to fluxuating horomones. It's like our bodies are going through withdrawl and our brains are constantly sending warning signals...our bodies just can't/won't do what it used to.'

Wish I had read this 5 years ago because I had no idea why I felt so much anxiety/panic/shaking for years. Thought I was losing my mind until I learned it's all hormonal. I've been dealing with the anxiety and all that goes with it constantly for 5 years. I've had most of those symptoms at one time or another at different degrees.

Yes it does feel like the meno has put me in one giant anxiety attack!
cmg0522
I"m not sure if I should be depressed or glad....I can't believe how many of the things I've have or have had! It's crazy how comforting it is to see them and know that it's all about anxiety....and hormones. I"ve battled anxiety most of my life....but it has really hit the fan with my surgically induced menopause. Bio-identical hormones have been a great help as I don't have the over the top panic attacks now but I still battle anxiety at some level most days...My doc gave me a shot of estrogen just to get me going before I got the Bio-identical cream...and it was a like a miracle...ALL of my anxiety symptoms went away for about 10 days....still working on getting the bio's and my thyroid at optimal levels now in hopes of getting there again. Estrogen is my new friend!

Thank you for posting this.....it was really interesting to read!
Shawna7
You're welcome....I know it helped me.

I also noticed I spelled hormones, "horomones" both times. rolleyes.gif Maybe I was thinking "horror" while typing it...LOL!

((Hugs))
retriever2
QUOTE (Shawna7 @ May 8 2009, 12:22 AM) *
Hi, Ladies....
Thank you so much for posting this! I am going to my endocrinologist on 5/13 and I'm imagining all kinds of bad things will happen. I've had so much anxiety lately (5 months without a period at age 55), days of high and low stress, and a breathing obsession. Thanks for lessening my stress.....ha...I have almost all of these symptoms, as I'm sure many others due too!

Retriever2

Someone sent this to me so I thought I'd share it. Hopefully, it will help someone else.

I was reading somewhere that our bodies are in a constant state of anxiety during perimenopause/menopause due to fluxuating horomones. It's like our bodies are going through withdrawl and our brains are constantly sending warning signals...our bodies just can't/won't do what it used to. Anyway, it got me thinking...if our bodies are in a constant state of anxiety due to our horomones, doesn't that make peri/menopause one huge anxiety/panic attack? Take a look at this list of anxiety symptoms....they're all peri/menopause symptoms. I know I've experienced them all. dry.gif

What do you guys think?

Common Anxiety/Panic Attack Symptoms

Here are some of the many symptoms associated with anxiety disorder (because each person has a unique chemical make up, the symptoms and their intensity will vary from person to person):

Shortness of breath
You feel that your breathing is forced and labored. You become conscious of how you are breathing and you have a hard time catching your breath. It seems like you have to force yourself to breathe, in fear that if you don't, you'll stop breathing and die. Or, for no apparent reason, you feel out of breath and find yourself doing an unusual amount of yawning in an attempt to catch your breath.

Persistent muscle tension
You feel like your muscles are always tight or strained, sometimes to the point of frequent pain, or even persistent and ongoing pain. Some may also find the pain so restricting and debilitating that it prevents physical activity, and sometimes to the point of becoming bed ridden. It's also common to experience pain or cramps in any of the body's muscles.

Heart – beating hard or too fast
Your heart feels and sounds as though it is pounding unusually hard in your chest. You become aware of the heart's action and you fear there may be a problem with it. Sometimes it may beat unusually fast or feel like it is racing for no apparent reason. Heart - Irregular heart rhythms, flutters or ‘skipped’ beatsYour heart feels like it skips a beat or flops in your chest. It sometimes may feel like a tickle in your chest that makes you cough. If you take your pulse, you'll notice that sometimes the beats are unevenly spaced.

Dizziness or light-headedness
You feel suddenly light-headed, woozy or dizzy. This is sometimes accompanied by a feeling that you might faint or pass out. It also may feel as though you are walking on a boat, or that the floor seems to move up and down and it's hard to balance. You may also have difficulty placing your feet because your perception of the ground or floor may be incorrect. In some cases it may seem that even though you are standing on a firm floor, the floor may be vibrating or moving. Weak legs, rubber legsYour legs feel so weak that you think they won't be able to support you. In some cases you might feel you won't be able to walk. Sometimes your legs may feel like jelly or rubber, or that you have to force yourself to walk. You may even feel as though your legs or knees are too stiff to move.

Trembling or shaking
Your arms, hands, legs and even your entire body may feel shaky or like they are trembling or vibrating. Sometimes you feel like you can’t stop yourself from shaking or trembling.

Choking
You feel as though there is something stuck in your throat or sometimes feel there is a lump in your throat. Other times you may feel that you can barely swallow or that there is a tightness in the throat, or that you have to really force yourself to swallow. Sometimes this feeling can lead you to think that you may suffocate or get something stuck in your throat.

Sweating
For no apparent reason you break into hot or cold sweats. You may also experience hot flashes or excessive sweating for no reason. Nausea or abdominal stressYou may feel bloated or gaseous, or that there is a lump in your stomach. Sometimes you may feel like you have butterflies in your stomach or that your stomach is tight. Some people refer to it as a 'heavy' stomach. Others experience over acidity or persistent nausea. Some may even vomit as a result. Some describe it as a ‘warm’ feeling in the gut. The thought of eating makes you nauseousSometimes even the thought of eating something will turn your stomach or make you nauseous.

Lack of appetite or taste
Sometimes you just don’t feel like eating, or the thought of food is unappealing. Or, that even though you are eating, the food has no taste or is unsatisfying.

A ‘tinny’, ‘metallic’ or ‘ammonia’ smell or taste
You have a persistent ‘tinny’, ‘metallic’ or ‘ammonia’ smell in your nose, or you taste it often and it’s not from your food or environment. Often it’s just there, but you can’t figure out why. It may come and go, or persist for some time.

Feeling of unreality, or feeling disconnected from the real world, dreamlike
You feel like you are not a part of what is going on, or that you feel like you are in a dream state or ‘out of touch with things’. Also, things around you may seem like they are shimmering, foggy, hazy or too bright.

Numbness or tingling in hands and feet
You feel pins and needles in your hands and feet, or other parts of your body. Sometimes you get a feeling like a particular area of your body is numb or frozen. Other times you may feel a burning sensation in your arms, legs or face.

The sensation of burning skin
You have a burning skin sensation like you have a bad sun burn, but there are no apparent burn marks. The burning sensations move around the body randomly and can persist for long periods of time. Often, these burning sensations are magnified by stressful situations or fear-producing thoughts.

Chest pain or discomfort
You may experience a tightness or pressure in the chest. Sometimes you may feel shooting pains, or muscle twitches, or just an uneasiness or fullness in the chest area which causes you concern. Some think they may be having a heart attack.

Fear of losing control
In a crowd or group, you may feel that you will do something to make you feel embarrassed like passing out, vomiting, gagging, stumbling and so on. You may feel that you might not be able to control your body or what you'll say. You may become very self-conscious among people. Urgency to urinateYou have an urgent need to go to the washroom, even though you may have just gone. And, when you do go, there are very little results.

Frequent urination
You have to go to the bathroom more often than normal, even though you may have just gone a little while ago.

Fear of going crazy
You suddenly become afraid that you might lose your mind or that you are not able to think. You may also feel that you are not able to remember things as easily as you once did. Sometimes you become afraid of having a nervous breakdown. You also may have periods of 'crazy' thoughts that frighten you, or that thoughts ‘just pop up’ that are bothersome by the content.

Fear of dying
You fear that what you have is terminal and nobody knows. You may also fear that the chest pains are a deadly heart attack or that the shooting pains in your head are the result of a tumor or aneurysm. You feel that any one of the symptoms you experience are life threatening. You feel an intense fear when you think of dying, or you may think of it more often than normal, or can’t get it out of your mind.

A feeling of impending doom
You feel as though something extremely bad is going to happen but you are not sure what. You may also feel as though your world is coming to an end.

Chronic Fatigue
You become extremely exhausted, burnt out or have no energy. You may feel tired all of the time and find even small tasks to be unusually tiring. You have no stamina and feel that you could sleep all day and then wake up still tired.

Eye tricks
You may see stars or movements out of the corner of your eyes that don't exist. You may also see flashing lights in your eyes or your vision may seem almost kaleidoscope-like. Sometimes you may feel that there is a dark object or something just on the outside edge of your vision, or that your vision is narrowing.

Dry mouth
You find it hard to swallow because of a lack of saliva. Your tongue feels dry or sticky.

Excess of energy
You feel so excited that you could do everything incredibly fast and then look for other things to do. You may also feel like you have to run or do something right now just to burn off the energy. Sometimes you can't sleep because your mind or body is going a million miles an hour. You feel as if you have energy to burn, and then some. You feel always 'pumped'. You also may feel as if you can't sit still or relax.

You feel you can’t relax
You have so much to do, or you have so much nervous energy that you can’t relax. Even slowing down for a moment is difficult. When you want to relax and rest, you can’t sit still, or have a million thoughts going on that make it hard to relax.

You often feel you are carrying the world on your shoulders
You often feel that you are responsible for far too many things, and that if you stopped, nothing would get done. Often you feel that you have the weight of the world on your shoulders and no way to get rid of it.

Stiffness
A particular joint in your body feels unusually stiff and sore, or hard to move. It may even feel arthritic. Sometimes you feel you may be ‘seizing up’.

Unusually afraid of normal things
You may become afraid of something that you had normally thought was not fearful. It may be a sudden fear of being alone, a fear of inanimate objects moving or talking, or an unsubstantiated fear for your safety to name a few (the fear that you may hurt someone or yourself when using a household knife is common--for example, you fear that you may uncontrollably stab a child, mate or yourself when using a kitchen knife).

Depression
You feel you are now uncharacteristically down or sad for no apparent reason. You may feel like crying all of the time, and yet not be sure why. Sometimes you may feel that things don't seem to be going your way even when they are. Or, you may feel that you don’t love someone anymore, even when there is no explainable reason to feel that way. You may also feel that nothing is going your way and that there’s no pleasure, or point in living. You may also feel like just giving up.

Dramatic mood swings
You are extremely happy one day and, for no apparent reason, become extremely sad or down the next. One minute you are optimistic and the next you are depressed. Simple discussions may seem too difficult to handle.

Insomnia, or waking up ill in the middle of the night
You may feel fine and be able to quickly fall asleep but then wake up a short time later. Once up, you can't easily fall back to sleep because your mind is racing or you are too ill. Or, you may have a hard time initially falling asleep and when you do, you wake often and again have a hard time going back to sleep. You may also wake in a panic attack.

Jolting awake
Just as you are dozing off to sleep, you feel like you hear a lot bang, buzz or shot, and that jolts you fully awake. Or, as you are dozing off, you feel like you are falling and that frightens you fully awake. Or, you are just dozing off and your body radically twitches awake.

Bad or crazy dreams
You may wake up in a panic and recall the dream you just had as being bizarre and totally crazy. This usually has you spending some time trying to figure out what caused the bad dream and what the bad dream is trying to tell you.

Uncontrollable muscle twitching
For no apparent reason, a particular muscle will begin to twitch. This twitching will continue for an unusual amount of time before it stops of its own accord. Sometimes it twitches so long it becomes sore, and may continue on and off for days.

Emotions feel wrong
For some reason, your emotions don't feel right. For example, someone whom you care deeply about for some reason you now get a weird feeling from. You can't put your finger on it, and you know it shouldn't be that way, but it just is. Or another example maybe, doing something you really like and for no reason, all of a sudden doesn't feel good and you don't know why.

Blurred vision
It seems your vision is blurry or out of focus, and it's more apparent now than before.

Eyes are sensitive to light
There are times when your eyes seem more sensitive to light than at others, even to a point of regular light being too bright so that you have to wear sunglasses or squint.

Dry, watery or itchy eyes
You feel as though your eyes are either always dry, constantly watering or itchy. And often, your eyes are red or 'glossy' looking. Even a good night's rest doesn't help.

Always being on edge or 'grouchy'
Sometimes your patience seems like it is totally gone and little things that won't normally be a concern now become really irritating and frustrating. Your patience seems non-existent. Every little thing sets you off, even normal family sounds become almost too much to handle, and you have a hard time controlling your temper.

Have difficulty concentrating
Normal tasks seem hard to focus on, or that your concentration is a lot shorter now than before. You may also start something, and uncharacteristically forget what you were doing soon after. You may also have difficulty remembering where you placed things, who you just called, or what you were looking for or thinking about.

Startle easily
You feel you startle more easily now than before. Even small sounds or common sounds startle you, and almost to the point of panic. Or, an event may frighten you, but more so than the event calls for. You may seem very over-reactionary or unusually ‘jumpy’.

Constant craving for sugar or sweets
For some reason you have an increased and ongoing craving for sugar, sweets or chocolate. Although you may have a 'sweet tooth', these craving usually go unsatisfied, while even more leaves you with the same result.

Repetitive thinking or incessant ‘mind chatter’
Your mind is racing all the time, and it never stops its chatter. Even when you are trying to relax your mind is going a million miles and hour. Sometimes songs will pop up that you can’t get out or your mind, and you sing them all day long, and even for days on end.

Obsession about sensations or getting better
This a big one. A thought process develops where the person is constantly trying to figure this illness out, or is constantly checking their body for twinges, aches or pains, and odd sensations. They also begin checking (often referred to as ‘testing’) their mental thoughts to see if there is a hint of physical or mental illness somewhere. As a person begins to get better, this process seems more entrenched and becomes more apparent. Also, you may find yourself doing this at every leisure moment, then getting into a mental battle with yourself to try and stop doing it. It also may seem that your mind is always 'going', and you can't seem to stop yourself from thinking, analyzing and problem solving about getting better.

You feel like you are under pressure all the time
You may feel like you just can’t get any breaks, or that you are under pressure all the time, with no way to relieve it. You may also feel that you can’t stop. Everything’s success depends upon you.

Constant feeling of being overwhelmed
This is a close cousin to the point previous, but you feel so under pressure that you feel overwhelmed by everything, and that there is no way out. This feeling is persistent and bothersome. Even just the thought of it causes fear and anxiety to overwhelm you.

Always feeling angry and lack of patience
Every little thing sets you off. While you used to be calm and collected, you now find yourself angry at almost everything, and it’s been a long time since you felt otherwise. When it comes to managing tasks, you find you have very little patience, and even simple matters make you angry and impatient.

Feel like crying all the time, often for no apparent reason
Once strong and resilient, able to handle anything, now you find yourself breaking down into tears for little or no reason. You may also suddenly feel the urge to cry, and you are not sure why, but you feel sad.

Unusually frightening thoughts or feelings
You may feel frightened or have fearful feelings about almost everything. Even small challenges well up fear in you and seem difficult or destined to doom or failure.

Sore or tight scalp or back of the neck
Your scalp feels sore, has shooting pains, or that the back of your neck and head are very tense.

Other symptoms are described as:
Being like a hypercondriac, muscle twinges, worry all the time, tingles, gagging, tightness in the throat, tightness in the chest, tongue twitches, feel like passing out, shaky, vomiting, breath lump, heart beat problems, head tingles, itchy tingling in arms and legs, and so many more.

In addition to these symptoms, you may also find yourself worrying compulsively about:• Having a heart attack• Having a serious undetected illness• Dying prematurely• Going insane or loosing your mind• Harming yourself or someone you love uncontrollably• Being embarrassed or making a fool out or yourself• Losing control• Fainting in public• Not breathing properly• Choking or suffocating• Being alone

These are some of the more common symptoms, but this list is certainly not exhaustive. It is common for people to experience one or more of these symptoms. While some may experience them all others may experience only a few.
© Jim Folk 1987 - 2004

Webalina
Glad I took my Effexor today. That list might have sent me over the edge. Sounds exactly what I've been going through for the last five years. You may be on to something here!
jv_98
QUOTE (Shawna7 @ May 7 2009, 11:22 PM) *
Hi, Ladies....

Someone sent this to me so I thought I'd share it. Hopefully, it will help someone else.

I was reading somewhere that our bodies are in a constant state of anxiety during perimenopause/menopause due to fluxuating horomones. It's like our bodies are going through withdrawl and our brains are constantly sending warning signals...our bodies just can't/won't do what it used to. Anyway, it got me thinking...if our bodies are in a constant state of anxiety due to our horomones, doesn't that make peri/menopause one huge anxiety/panic attack? Take a look at this list of anxiety symptoms....they're all peri/menopause symptoms. I know I've experienced them all. dry.gif

What do you guys think?

Common Anxiety/Panic Attack Symptoms

Here are some of the many symptoms associated with anxiety disorder (because each person has a unique chemical make up, the symptoms and their intensity will vary from person to person):

Shortness of breath
You feel that your breathing is forced and labored. You become conscious of how you are breathing and you have a hard time catching your breath. It seems like you have to force yourself to breathe, in fear that if you don't, you'll stop breathing and die. Or, for no apparent reason, you feel out of breath and find yourself doing an unusual amount of yawning in an attempt to catch your breath.

Persistent muscle tension
You feel like your muscles are always tight or strained, sometimes to the point of frequent pain, or even persistent and ongoing pain. Some may also find the pain so restricting and debilitating that it prevents physical activity, and sometimes to the point of becoming bed ridden. It's also common to experience pain or cramps in any of the body's muscles.

Heart – beating hard or too fast
Your heart feels and sounds as though it is pounding unusually hard in your chest. You become aware of the heart's action and you fear there may be a problem with it. Sometimes it may beat unusually fast or feel like it is racing for no apparent reason. Heart - Irregular heart rhythms, flutters or ‘skipped’ beatsYour heart feels like it skips a beat or flops in your chest. It sometimes may feel like a tickle in your chest that makes you cough. If you take your pulse, you'll notice that sometimes the beats are unevenly spaced.

Dizziness or light-headedness
You feel suddenly light-headed, woozy or dizzy. This is sometimes accompanied by a feeling that you might faint or pass out. It also may feel as though you are walking on a boat, or that the floor seems to move up and down and it's hard to balance. You may also have difficulty placing your feet because your perception of the ground or floor may be incorrect. In some cases it may seem that even though you are standing on a firm floor, the floor may be vibrating or moving. Weak legs, rubber legsYour legs feel so weak that you think they won't be able to support you. In some cases you might feel you won't be able to walk. Sometimes your legs may feel like jelly or rubber, or that you have to force yourself to walk. You may even feel as though your legs or knees are too stiff to move.

Trembling or shaking
Your arms, hands, legs and even your entire body may feel shaky or like they are trembling or vibrating. Sometimes you feel like you can’t stop yourself from shaking or trembling.

Choking
You feel as though there is something stuck in your throat or sometimes feel there is a lump in your throat. Other times you may feel that you can barely swallow or that there is a tightness in the throat, or that you have to really force yourself to swallow. Sometimes this feeling can lead you to think that you may suffocate or get something stuck in your throat.

Sweating
For no apparent reason you break into hot or cold sweats. You may also experience hot flashes or excessive sweating for no reason. Nausea or abdominal stressYou may feel bloated or gaseous, or that there is a lump in your stomach. Sometimes you may feel like you have butterflies in your stomach or that your stomach is tight. Some people refer to it as a 'heavy' stomach. Others experience over acidity or persistent nausea. Some may even vomit as a result. Some describe it as a ‘warm’ feeling in the gut. The thought of eating makes you nauseousSometimes even the thought of eating something will turn your stomach or make you nauseous.

Lack of appetite or taste
Sometimes you just don’t feel like eating, or the thought of food is unappealing. Or, that even though you are eating, the food has no taste or is unsatisfying.

A ‘tinny’, ‘metallic’ or ‘ammonia’ smell or taste
You have a persistent ‘tinny’, ‘metallic’ or ‘ammonia’ smell in your nose, or you taste it often and it’s not from your food or environment. Often it’s just there, but you can’t figure out why. It may come and go, or persist for some time.

Feeling of unreality, or feeling disconnected from the real world, dreamlike
You feel like you are not a part of what is going on, or that you feel like you are in a dream state or ‘out of touch with things’. Also, things around you may seem like they are shimmering, foggy, hazy or too bright.

Numbness or tingling in hands and feet
You feel pins and needles in your hands and feet, or other parts of your body. Sometimes you get a feeling like a particular area of your body is numb or frozen. Other times you may feel a burning sensation in your arms, legs or face.

The sensation of burning skin
You have a burning skin sensation like you have a bad sun burn, but there are no apparent burn marks. The burning sensations move around the body randomly and can persist for long periods of time. Often, these burning sensations are magnified by stressful situations or fear-producing thoughts.

Chest pain or discomfort
You may experience a tightness or pressure in the chest. Sometimes you may feel shooting pains, or muscle twitches, or just an uneasiness or fullness in the chest area which causes you concern. Some think they may be having a heart attack.

Fear of losing control
In a crowd or group, you may feel that you will do something to make you feel embarrassed like passing out, vomiting, gagging, stumbling and so on. You may feel that you might not be able to control your body or what you'll say. You may become very self-conscious among people. Urgency to urinateYou have an urgent need to go to the washroom, even though you may have just gone. And, when you do go, there are very little results.

Frequent urination
You have to go to the bathroom more often than normal, even though you may have just gone a little while ago.

Fear of going crazy
You suddenly become afraid that you might lose your mind or that you are not able to think. You may also feel that you are not able to remember things as easily as you once did. Sometimes you become afraid of having a nervous breakdown. You also may have periods of 'crazy' thoughts that frighten you, or that thoughts ‘just pop up’ that are bothersome by the content.

Fear of dying
You fear that what you have is terminal and nobody knows. You may also fear that the chest pains are a deadly heart attack or that the shooting pains in your head are the result of a tumor or aneurysm. You feel that any one of the symptoms you experience are life threatening. You feel an intense fear when you think of dying, or you may think of it more often than normal, or can’t get it out of your mind.

A feeling of impending doom
You feel as though something extremely bad is going to happen but you are not sure what. You may also feel as though your world is coming to an end.

Chronic Fatigue
You become extremely exhausted, burnt out or have no energy. You may feel tired all of the time and find even small tasks to be unusually tiring. You have no stamina and feel that you could sleep all day and then wake up still tired.

Eye tricks
You may see stars or movements out of the corner of your eyes that don't exist. You may also see flashing lights in your eyes or your vision may seem almost kaleidoscope-like. Sometimes you may feel that there is a dark object or something just on the outside edge of your vision, or that your vision is narrowing.

Dry mouth
You find it hard to swallow because of a lack of saliva. Your tongue feels dry or sticky.

Excess of energy
You feel so excited that you could do everything incredibly fast and then look for other things to do. You may also feel like you have to run or do something right now just to burn off the energy. Sometimes you can't sleep because your mind or body is going a million miles an hour. You feel as if you have energy to burn, and then some. You feel always 'pumped'. You also may feel as if you can't sit still or relax.

You feel you can’t relax
You have so much to do, or you have so much nervous energy that you can’t relax. Even slowing down for a moment is difficult. When you want to relax and rest, you can’t sit still, or have a million thoughts going on that make it hard to relax.

You often feel you are carrying the world on your shoulders
You often feel that you are responsible for far too many things, and that if you stopped, nothing would get done. Often you feel that you have the weight of the world on your shoulders and no way to get rid of it.

Stiffness
A particular joint in your body feels unusually stiff and sore, or hard to move. It may even feel arthritic. Sometimes you feel you may be ‘seizing up’.

Unusually afraid of normal things
You may become afraid of something that you had normally thought was not fearful. It may be a sudden fear of being alone, a fear of inanimate objects moving or talking, or an unsubstantiated fear for your safety to name a few (the fear that you may hurt someone or yourself when using a household knife is common--for example, you fear that you may uncontrollably stab a child, mate or yourself when using a kitchen knife).

Depression
You feel you are now uncharacteristically down or sad for no apparent reason. You may feel like crying all of the time, and yet not be sure why. Sometimes you may feel that things don't seem to be going your way even when they are. Or, you may feel that you don’t love someone anymore, even when there is no explainable reason to feel that way. You may also feel that nothing is going your way and that there’s no pleasure, or point in living. You may also feel like just giving up.

Dramatic mood swings
You are extremely happy one day and, for no apparent reason, become extremely sad or down the next. One minute you are optimistic and the next you are depressed. Simple discussions may seem too difficult to handle.

Insomnia, or waking up ill in the middle of the night
You may feel fine and be able to quickly fall asleep but then wake up a short time later. Once up, you can't easily fall back to sleep because your mind is racing or you are too ill. Or, you may have a hard time initially falling asleep and when you do, you wake often and again have a hard time going back to sleep. You may also wake in a panic attack.

Jolting awake
Just as you are dozing off to sleep, you feel like you hear a lot bang, buzz or shot, and that jolts you fully awake. Or, as you are dozing off, you feel like you are falling and that frightens you fully awake. Or, you are just dozing off and your body radically twitches awake.

Bad or crazy dreams
You may wake up in a panic and recall the dream you just had as being bizarre and totally crazy. This usually has you spending some time trying to figure out what caused the bad dream and what the bad dream is trying to tell you.

Uncontrollable muscle twitching
For no apparent reason, a particular muscle will begin to twitch. This twitching will continue for an unusual amount of time before it stops of its own accord. Sometimes it twitches so long it becomes sore, and may continue on and off for days.

Emotions feel wrong
For some reason, your emotions don't feel right. For example, someone whom you care deeply about for some reason you now get a weird feeling from. You can't put your finger on it, and you know it shouldn't be that way, but it just is. Or another example maybe, doing something you really like and for no reason, all of a sudden doesn't feel good and you don't know why.

Blurred vision
It seems your vision is blurry or out of focus, and it's more apparent now than before.

Eyes are sensitive to light
There are times when your eyes seem more sensitive to light than at others, even to a point of regular light being too bright so that you have to wear sunglasses or squint.

Dry, watery or itchy eyes
You feel as though your eyes are either always dry, constantly watering or itchy. And often, your eyes are red or 'glossy' looking. Even a good night's rest doesn't help.

Always being on edge or 'grouchy'
Sometimes your patience seems like it is totally gone and little things that won't normally be a concern now become really irritating and frustrating. Your patience seems non-existent. Every little thing sets you off, even normal family sounds become almost too much to handle, and you have a hard time controlling your temper.

Have difficulty concentrating
Normal tasks seem hard to focus on, or that your concentration is a lot shorter now than before. You may also start something, and uncharacteristically forget what you were doing soon after. You may also have difficulty remembering where you placed things, who you just called, or what you were looking for or thinking about.

Startle easily
You feel you startle more easily now than before. Even small sounds or common sounds startle you, and almost to the point of panic. Or, an event may frighten you, but more so than the event calls for. You may seem very over-reactionary or unusually ‘jumpy’.

Constant craving for sugar or sweets
For some reason you have an increased and ongoing craving for sugar, sweets or chocolate. Although you may have a 'sweet tooth', these craving usually go unsatisfied, while even more leaves you with the same result.

Repetitive thinking or incessant ‘mind chatter’
Your mind is racing all the time, and it never stops its chatter. Even when you are trying to relax your mind is going a million miles and hour. Sometimes songs will pop up that you can’t get out or your mind, and you sing them all day long, and even for days on end.

Obsession about sensations or getting better
This a big one. A thought process develops where the person is constantly trying to figure this illness out, or is constantly checking their body for twinges, aches or pains, and odd sensations. They also begin checking (often referred to as ‘testing’) their mental thoughts to see if there is a hint of physical or mental illness somewhere. As a person begins to get better, this process seems more entrenched and becomes more apparent. Also, you may find yourself doing this at every leisure moment, then getting into a mental battle with yourself to try and stop doing it. It also may seem that your mind is always 'going', and you can't seem to stop yourself from thinking, analyzing and problem solving about getting better.

You feel like you are under pressure all the time
You may feel like you just can’t get any breaks, or that you are under pressure all the time, with no way to relieve it. You may also feel that you can’t stop. Everything’s success depends upon you.

Constant feeling of being overwhelmed
This is a close cousin to the point previous, but you feel so under pressure that you feel overwhelmed by everything, and that there is no way out. This feeling is persistent and bothersome. Even just the thought of it causes fear and anxiety to overwhelm you.

Always feeling angry and lack of patience
Every little thing sets you off. While you used to be calm and collected, you now find yourself angry at almost everything, and it’s been a long time since you felt otherwise. When it comes to managing tasks, you find you have very little patience, and even simple matters make you angry and impatient.

Feel like crying all the time, often for no apparent reason
Once strong and resilient, able to handle anything, now you find yourself breaking down into tears for little or no reason. You may also suddenly feel the urge to cry, and you are not sure why, but you feel sad.

Unusually frightening thoughts or feelings
You may feel frightened or have fearful feelings about almost everything. Even small challenges well up fear in you and seem difficult or destined to doom or failure.

Sore or tight scalp or back of the neck
Your scalp feels sore, has shooting pains, or that the back of your neck and head are very tense.

Other symptoms are described as:
Being like a hypercondriac, muscle twinges, worry all the time, tingles, gagging, tightness in the throat, tightness in the chest, tongue twitches, feel like passing out, shaky, vomiting, breath lump, heart beat problems, head tingles, itchy tingling in arms and legs, and so many more.

In addition to these symptoms, you may also find yourself worrying compulsively about:• Having a heart attack• Having a serious undetected illness• Dying prematurely• Going insane or loosing your mind• Harming yourself or someone you love uncontrollably• Being embarrassed or making a fool out or yourself• Losing control• Fainting in public• Not breathing properly• Choking or suffocating• Being alone

These are some of the more common symptoms, but this list is certainly not exhaustive. It is common for people to experience one or more of these symptoms. While some may experience them all others may experience only a few.
© Jim Folk 1987 - 2004

the elder
I hope this is exactly whats happening to me, I've had most of those symptoms for about three weeks and had a major episode in the shopping centre yesterday. I'm due to have a MIBI scan for my heart in a couple of days and all I can say is I hope that there's nothing wrong with my heart.

I worry because I weigh about twice what I should, but I don't smoke,drink or do drugs.

Something I noticed with my periods this month was I had no PMT and no warning I was going to get them. I usually have a light discharge a few days beforehand.

Thanks so very much for putting this article up, I thought panic attacks only happened to people who were actually panicking!

Also is there anybody else that's had their thyroid removed? if so have they experienced these also?
I'm on oroxine after having it removed.

thanks again ladies, God bless you all!
Deb in OZ wink.gif
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""Unusually afraid of normal things
You may become afraid of something that you had normally thought was not fearful. It may be a sudden fear of being alone, a fear of inanimate objects moving or talking, or an unsubstantiated fear for your safety to name a few (the fear that you may hurt someone or yourself when using a household knife is common--for example, you fear that you may uncontrollably stab a child, mate or yourself when using a kitchen knife)"".


Oh MY!!! This is the FIRST time I have seen this symptom listed! I went through this a couple of years ago when all this peri nightmare started. I was terrified to hold a knife for even something as mundane as peeling potatoes for fear that this crazy person inside of me would take over and attack the nearest person!!!!

Thank God I have since stopped this thought process.....but it truly is scary!
Thanks for posting these up.... mellow.gif
DizzyD
QUOTE (surreallife @ May 7 2009, 08:54 PM) *
'our bodies are in a constant state of anxiety during perimenopause/menopause due to fluxuating horomones. It's like our bodies are going through withdrawl and our brains are constantly sending warning signals...our bodies just can't/won't do what it used to.'

Wish I had read this 5 years ago because I had no idea why I felt so much anxiety/panic/shaking for years. Thought I was losing my mind until I learned it's all hormonal. I've been dealing with the anxiety and all that goes with it constantly for 5 years. I've had most of those symptoms at one time or another at different degrees.

Yes it does feel like the meno has put me in one giant anxiety attack!



I agree with surreallife. I have also had such problems for the past five years and I wish I had known sooner what was causing them. So glad to have found PowerSurge!!
Becca233
QUOTE (the elder @ Jul 19 2009, 02:05 AM) *
I hope this is exactly whats happening to me, I've had most of those symptoms for about three weeks and had a major episode in the shopping centre yesterday. I'm due to have a MIBI scan for my heart in a couple of days and all I can say is I hope that there's nothing wrong with my heart.

I worry because I weigh about twice what I should, but I don't smoke,drink or do drugs.

Something I noticed with my periods this month was I had no PMT and no warning I was going to get them. I usually have a light discharge a few days beforehand.

Thanks so very much for putting this article up, I thought panic attacks only happened to people who were actually panicking!

Also is there anybody else that's had their thyroid removed? if so have they experienced these also?
I'm on oroxine after having it removed.

thanks again ladies, God bless you all!
Deb in OZ wink.gif



I am glad you read this, cuz I was just thinking of you when I was reading this too.... See you're not crazy!!!

And ps - these symptoms pretty much nail it, now if we could just find a cure...... mad.gif

alinam
QUOTE (Shawna7 @ May 7 2009, 10:58 PM) *
You're welcome....I know it helped me.

I also noticed I spelled hormones, "horomones" both times. rolleyes.gif Maybe I was thinking "horror" while typing it...LOL!

((Hugs))


Yes, I think they should be renamed horror-mones. I've had emotional and fatigue issues since puberty. The anxiety and panic attacks started shortly after but I didn't know what they were until they got so bad I finally went to my mother and she told me. I'm terrified my daughters will go through the same thing.

As long as I was on an SSRI, I did ok, until last year, then all hell broke loose. I still haven't found an AD that helps.
Shawna7
For me, the anxiety started when I was 36/37. Hit me out of the blue and were always centered around my periods. It took me a while to make the connection. I'm so used to the feelings and symptoms now, I just try to stay calm and let them pass. Our minds are our worse enemy when it comes to anxiety. It's amazing how powerful it is and how much it can control us. Try to think of it as something you CAN control instead of something that's OUT of your control. I can speak from experience...you CAN control it...naturally! It takes some time, but you can reprogram your mind to not fear the symptoms.

I'm trying to get through this naturally (no meds...just supplements/diet) and it hasn't been easy. I'm trying to see it as a natural change...eventually my body will even out. I figure if I'm stressed out by it all the time, it's making it harder for my body to do it's job. The stress just adds more crap that my body has to work through. Try to work WITH your body and not make it your enemy.

Just some things that have helped me. smile.gif

((Hugs))

almostangela
Boy am I glad I found out about perimenopause and it's relation to anxiexty. Years ago I was married and in an abusive relationship for 20 years. It took 2 years to get out safely with my kids and the byproduct was anxieity attacks which I thought was well behind me.

Recently this year, about once a month I would get the burst of anxiety attacks and I would get this phobia and beleive that my new husband of 7 years was just as abusive "like my ex'. Except, the rest of the month I was completely puzzled because he wasn't. ??? I would calm down and then BAM, for a week, I would flip out and I was ready to throw him out and I was certain he was evil. Phew....now I know it is this darn menopause and I can cool my heals and not cruisify the poor guy.

Knowing what the problem is helps me find the tools to deal with it. It still feels so real while I am in it though. HOW LONG DOES THIS GO ON FOR??!!

Angela
the elder
QUOTE (Becca233 @ Jul 19 2009, 12:16 PM) *
I am glad you read this, cuz I was just thinking of you when I was reading this too.... See you're not crazy!!!

And ps - these symptoms pretty much nail it, now if we could just find a cure...... mad.gif



I am so glad I read it too darlin' I have major anxiety today as I have to go and get my results from the heart scan, it's truly turning me into a basketcase!!!

If it wasn't for my husbands calming presence I think I would just lose it......which I'm trying not too.

CelticTigress
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This is me. Does this happen as a RESULT of anxiety or is it just that I get more anxious when it happens because I think I might have some deadly illness? In which case it is a vicious circle.

Maybe because my former husband died of Motor Neurone Disease (ALS you call it in the States) every little muscle symptom is magnified as a prophecy of doom.

Then there's the muscle aches & joint stiffness, combined with that. And the fact I can't do stuff I used to be able to do. In fact probably about a dozen symptoms from the above list, all working against each other.

I met a lovely lady at the weekend, in fact I've known her for a long time but haven't met her in a while. She has just had her 70th birthday. I told her about some of the stuff I was going thru and she asked me how old I was? 52.

Ah... you're in for a rocky ten years she said.

But after that, the most wonderful feeling of content and settlement. So ladies there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Here's what got to me about her... I am panicking because I can't do all the things I have always loved to do, and she says she can't do the very two things she loves most in all the world, any more. But here's the kicker - she doesn't care! She is happy ANYWAY.

I love that! And if that's what's waiting at the other side of the ten years, I'll batten down and weather it out.

Snowmoon56
Shawna7> good list will print it out!
Evergreen1
After my hysterectomy I had many many of these symptoms.

I remember first feeling the effects about 2 weeks after surgery. I couldnt take hormones so I really hit bottom.
Anyway I was in the tub and the first Panic/Hotflash etc hit. I felt like I was dying right then. I got out and went to my husband and said something is really really bad wrong. I think they must have left something in me.. I feel so sick and I think I must have a infection from it. It felt like the flu, the like death was resting on me. Horrible feeling of doom.

I went to the dr and they told me it was just my hormones, they put me on the HRT for 4 months then he took me off.
They didnt help anyway.

Insomnia had already started before my Hysterectomy where I only slept about 5-6 hours. Then after the first attack my sleep got so bad that I might sleep 2 hours then be up 24 hours. The worst Insomnia was I would be up 48 hours then sleep 6 then up 48 again. I hated it . I got to where I hated NIGHT. I still dread nighttime coming. Because I know Im going to have some sort of attack. But I never know when.

Also one of my symptoms was if we were in the Grocery store or out any where and a baby or child started to cry OMG..
It was like someone taking there fingernails to a chalk board. I would have to get out of there.


My Daughter was 18 or 19 and the biggest help. Because of the lack of sleep I couldn't drive. She took me every where I need to go.
She would invite me to go to the movies with her and a girl friend or just go shopping or out to eat. She was the only one who could get me out of the deep dark hole I felt like I was thrown down in.



Evergreen1
Those of you in Perimenopause did you know you can start taking the over the counter supplements now to help with the symptoms.

Remifemine is a good one. Walmart carries it.

Healthy womens soy is another good one.


I wish I would have know it before I had my hysterectomy. But I didnt .
joyceveronica
QUOTE (Evergreen1 @ Oct 1 2009, 09:57 AM) *
After my hysterectomy I had many many of these symptoms.

I remember first feeling the effects about 2 weeks after surgery. I couldnt take hormones so I really hit bottom.
Anyway I was in the tub and the first Panic/Hotflash etc hit. I felt like I was dying right then. I got out and went to my husband and said something is really really bad wrong. I think they must have left something in me.. I feel so sick and I think I must have a infection from it. It felt like the flu, the like death was resting on me. Horrible feeling of doom.

I went to the dr and they told me it was just my hormones, they put me on the HRT for 4 months then he took me off.
They didnt help anyway.

Insomnia had already started before my Hysterectomy where I only slept about 5-6 hours. Then after the first attack my sleep got so bad that I might sleep 2 hours then be up 24 hours. The worst Insomnia was I would be up 48 hours then sleep 6 then up 48 again. I hated it . I got to where I hated NIGHT. I still dread nighttime coming. Because I know Im going to have some sort of attack. But I never know when.

Also one of my symptoms was if we were in the Grocery store or out any where and a baby or child started to cry OMG..
It was like someone taking there fingernails to a chalk board. I would have to get out of there.


My Daughter was 18 or 19 and the biggest help. Because of the lack of sleep I couldn't drive. She took me every where I need to go.
She would invite me to go to the movies with her and a girl friend or just go shopping or out to eat. She was the only one who could get me out of the deep dark hole I felt like I was thrown down in.

Dear 'evergreen'
Thank God for our beautiful daughters!
When I was Post Menopausal at 39 and a complete mess she was the one who sat by me and fed me from a small spoon as I suffered an awful aversion to food.She encouraged me to see a Psychiatrist and went with me.He put me on Prozac and yes it helped.
However got my big break-"No not Hollywood-at my yearly Gyno. check up.It was Premature Ovarian Failure.I was put on HRT and after about three months began to feel better.I am sorry they did not work for you as they do not suit everybody.
Also a small dose of Xanax-prescribed on an as needed basis-has also helped me sleep well when anxiety has been high.
Sometimes I would feel weak and stupid on all these Meds but now accept it is what it is.
My lovely daughter,and I am sure yours too,is my best friend.
We have been blessed.

God Bless
Elizabeth
whyme!!!
QUOTE (Shawna7 @ May 7 2009, 11:22 PM) *
Hi, Ladies....

Someone sent this to me so I thought I'd share it. Hopefully, it will help someone else.

I was reading somewhere that our bodies are in a constant state of anxiety during perimenopause/menopause due to fluxuating horomones. It's like our bodies are going through withdrawl and our brains are constantly sending warning signals...our bodies just can't/won't do what it used to. Anyway, it got me thinking...if our bodies are in a constant state of anxiety due to our horomones, doesn't that make peri/menopause one huge anxiety/panic attack? Take a look at this list of anxiety symptoms....they're all peri/menopause symptoms. I know I've experienced them all. dry.gif

What do you guys think?

Common Anxiety/Panic Attack Symptoms

Here are some of the many symptoms associated with anxiety disorder (because each person has a unique chemical make up, the symptoms and their intensity will vary from person to person):

Shortness of breath
You feel that your breathing is forced and labored. You become conscious of how you are breathing and you have a hard time catching your breath. It seems like you have to force yourself to breathe, in fear that if you don't, you'll stop breathing and die. Or, for no apparent reason, you feel out of breath and find yourself doing an unusual amount of yawning in an attempt to catch your breath.

Persistent muscle tension
You feel like your muscles are always tight or strained, sometimes to the point of frequent pain, or even persistent and ongoing pain. Some may also find the pain so restricting and debilitating that it prevents physical activity, and sometimes to the point of becoming bed ridden. It's also common to experience pain or cramps in any of the body's muscles.

Heart – beating hard or too fast
Your heart feels and sounds as though it is pounding unusually hard in your chest. You become aware of the heart's action and you fear there may be a problem with it. Sometimes it may beat unusually fast or feel like it is racing for no apparent reason. Heart - Irregular heart rhythms, flutters or ‘skipped’ beatsYour heart feels like it skips a beat or flops in your chest. It sometimes may feel like a tickle in your chest that makes you cough. If you take your pulse, you'll notice that sometimes the beats are unevenly spaced.

Dizziness or light-headedness
You feel suddenly light-headed, woozy or dizzy. This is sometimes accompanied by a feeling that you might faint or pass out. It also may feel as though you are walking on a boat, or that the floor seems to move up and down and it's hard to balance. You may also have difficulty placing your feet because your perception of the ground or floor may be incorrect. In some cases it may seem that even though you are standing on a firm floor, the floor may be vibrating or moving. Weak legs, rubber legsYour legs feel so weak that you think they won't be able to support you. In some cases you might feel you won't be able to walk. Sometimes your legs may feel like jelly or rubber, or that you have to force yourself to walk. You may even feel as though your legs or knees are too stiff to move.

Trembling or shaking
Your arms, hands, legs and even your entire body may feel shaky or like they are trembling or vibrating. Sometimes you feel like you can’t stop yourself from shaking or trembling.

Choking
You feel as though there is something stuck in your throat or sometimes feel there is a lump in your throat. Other times you may feel that you can barely swallow or that there is a tightness in the throat, or that you have to really force yourself to swallow. Sometimes this feeling can lead you to think that you may suffocate or get something stuck in your throat.

Sweating
For no apparent reason you break into hot or cold sweats. You may also experience hot flashes or excessive sweating for no reason. Nausea or abdominal stressYou may feel bloated or gaseous, or that there is a lump in your stomach. Sometimes you may feel like you have butterflies in your stomach or that your stomach is tight. Some people refer to it as a 'heavy' stomach. Others experience over acidity or persistent nausea. Some may even vomit as a result. Some describe it as a ‘warm’ feeling in the gut. The thought of eating makes you nauseousSometimes even the thought of eating something will turn your stomach or make you nauseous.

Lack of appetite or taste
Sometimes you just don’t feel like eating, or the thought of food is unappealing. Or, that even though you are eating, the food has no taste or is unsatisfying.

A ‘tinny’, ‘metallic’ or ‘ammonia’ smell or taste
You have a persistent ‘tinny’, ‘metallic’ or ‘ammonia’ smell in your nose, or you taste it often and it’s not from your food or environment. Often it’s just there, but you can’t figure out why. It may come and go, or persist for some time.

Feeling of unreality, or feeling disconnected from the real world, dreamlike
You feel like you are not a part of what is going on, or that you feel like you are in a dream state or ‘out of touch with things’. Also, things around you may seem like they are shimmering, foggy, hazy or too bright.

Numbness or tingling in hands and feet
You feel pins and needles in your hands and feet, or other parts of your body. Sometimes you get a feeling like a particular area of your body is numb or frozen. Other times you may feel a burning sensation in your arms, legs or face.

The sensation of burning skin
You have a burning skin sensation like you have a bad sun burn, but there are no apparent burn marks. The burning sensations move around the body randomly and can persist for long periods of time. Often, these burning sensations are magnified by stressful situations or fear-producing thoughts.

Chest pain or discomfort
You may experience a tightness or pressure in the chest. Sometimes you may feel shooting pains, or muscle twitches, or just an uneasiness or fullness in the chest area which causes you concern. Some think they may be having a heart attack.

Fear of losing control
In a crowd or group, you may feel that you will do something to make you feel embarrassed like passing out, vomiting, gagging, stumbling and so on. You may feel that you might not be able to control your body or what you'll say. You may become very self-conscious among people. Urgency to urinateYou have an urgent need to go to the washroom, even though you may have just gone. And, when you do go, there are very little results.

Frequent urination
You have to go to the bathroom more often than normal, even though you may have just gone a little while ago.

Fear of going crazy
You suddenly become afraid that you might lose your mind or that you are not able to think. You may also feel that you are not able to remember things as easily as you once did. Sometimes you become afraid of having a nervous breakdown. You also may have periods of 'crazy' thoughts that frighten you, or that thoughts ‘just pop up’ that are bothersome by the content.

Fear of dying
You fear that what you have is terminal and nobody knows. You may also fear that the chest pains are a deadly heart attack or that the shooting pains in your head are the result of a tumor or aneurysm. You feel that any one of the symptoms you experience are life threatening. You feel an intense fear when you think of dying, or you may think of it more often than normal, or can’t get it out of your mind.

A feeling of impending doom
You feel as though something extremely bad is going to happen but you are not sure what. You may also feel as though your world is coming to an end.

Chronic Fatigue
You become extremely exhausted, burnt out or have no energy. You may feel tired all of the time and find even small tasks to be unusually tiring. You have no stamina and feel that you could sleep all day and then wake up still tired.

Eye tricks
You may see stars or movements out of the corner of your eyes that don't exist. You may also see flashing lights in your eyes or your vision may seem almost kaleidoscope-like. Sometimes you may feel that there is a dark object or something just on the outside edge of your vision, or that your vision is narrowing.

Dry mouth
You find it hard to swallow because of a lack of saliva. Your tongue feels dry or sticky.

Excess of energy
You feel so excited that you could do everything incredibly fast and then look for other things to do. You may also feel like you have to run or do something right now just to burn off the energy. Sometimes you can't sleep because your mind or body is going a million miles an hour. You feel as if you have energy to burn, and then some. You feel always 'pumped'. You also may feel as if you can't sit still or relax.

You feel you can’t relax
You have so much to do, or you have so much nervous energy that you can’t relax. Even slowing down for a moment is difficult. When you want to relax and rest, you can’t sit still, or have a million thoughts going on that make it hard to relax.

You often feel you are carrying the world on your shoulders
You often feel that you are responsible for far too many things, and that if you stopped, nothing would get done. Often you feel that you have the weight of the world on your shoulders and no way to get rid of it.

Stiffness
A particular joint in your body feels unusually stiff and sore, or hard to move. It may even feel arthritic. Sometimes you feel you may be ‘seizing up’.

Unusually afraid of normal things
You may become afraid of something that you had normally thought was not fearful. It may be a sudden fear of being alone, a fear of inanimate objects moving or talking, or an unsubstantiated fear for your safety to name a few (the fear that you may hurt someone or yourself when using a household knife is common--for example, you fear that you may uncontrollably stab a child, mate or yourself when using a kitchen knife).

Depression
You feel you are now uncharacteristically down or sad for no apparent reason. You may feel like crying all of the time, and yet not be sure why. Sometimes you may feel that things don't seem to be going your way even when they are. Or, you may feel that you don’t love someone anymore, even when there is no explainable reason to feel that way. You may also feel that nothing is going your way and that there’s no pleasure, or point in living. You may also feel like just giving up.

Dramatic mood swings
You are extremely happy one day and, for no apparent reason, become extremely sad or down the next. One minute you are optimistic and the next you are depressed. Simple discussions may seem too difficult to handle.

Insomnia, or waking up ill in the middle of the night
You may feel fine and be able to quickly fall asleep but then wake up a short time later. Once up, you can't easily fall back to sleep because your mind is racing or you are too ill. Or, you may have a hard time initially falling asleep and when you do, you wake often and again have a hard time going back to sleep. You may also wake in a panic attack.

Jolting awake
Just as you are dozing off to sleep, you feel like you hear a lot bang, buzz or shot, and that jolts you fully awake. Or, as you are dozing off, you feel like you are falling and that frightens you fully awake. Or, you are just dozing off and your body radically twitches awake.

Bad or crazy dreams
You may wake up in a panic and recall the dream you just had as being bizarre and totally crazy. This usually has you spending some time trying to figure out what caused the bad dream and what the bad dream is trying to tell you.

Uncontrollable muscle twitching
For no apparent reason, a particular muscle will begin to twitch. This twitching will continue for an unusual amount of time before it stops of its own accord. Sometimes it twitches so long it becomes sore, and may continue on and off for days.

Emotions feel wrong
For some reason, your emotions don't feel right. For example, someone whom you care deeply about for some reason you now get a weird feeling from. You can't put your finger on it, and you know it shouldn't be that way, but it just is. Or another example maybe, doing something you really like and for no reason, all of a sudden doesn't feel good and you don't know why.

Blurred vision
It seems your vision is blurry or out of focus, and it's more apparent now than before.

Eyes are sensitive to light
There are times when your eyes seem more sensitive to light than at others, even to a point of regular light being too bright so that you have to wear sunglasses or squint.

Dry, watery or itchy eyes
You feel as though your eyes are either always dry, constantly watering or itchy. And often, your eyes are red or 'glossy' looking. Even a good night's rest doesn't help.

Always being on edge or 'grouchy'
Sometimes your patience seems like it is totally gone and little things that won't normally be a concern now become really irritating and frustrating. Your patience seems non-existent. Every little thing sets you off, even normal family sounds become almost too much to handle, and you have a hard time controlling your temper.

Have difficulty concentrating
Normal tasks seem hard to focus on, or that your concentration is a lot shorter now than before. You may also start something, and uncharacteristically forget what you were doing soon after. You may also have difficulty remembering where you placed things, who you just called, or what you were looking for or thinking about.

Startle easily
You feel you startle more easily now than before. Even small sounds or common sounds startle you, and almost to the point of panic. Or, an event may frighten you, but more so than the event calls for. You may seem very over-reactionary or unusually ‘jumpy’.

Constant craving for sugar or sweets
For some reason you have an increased and ongoing craving for sugar, sweets or chocolate. Although you may have a 'sweet tooth', these craving usually go unsatisfied, while even more leaves you with the same result.

Repetitive thinking or incessant ‘mind chatter’
Your mind is racing all the time, and it never stops its chatter. Even when you are trying to relax your mind is going a million miles and hour. Sometimes songs will pop up that you can’t get out or your mind, and you sing them all day long, and even for days on end.

Obsession about sensations or getting better
This a big one. A thought process develops where the person is constantly trying to figure this illness out, or is constantly checking their body for twinges, aches or pains, and odd sensations. They also begin checking (often referred to as ‘testing’) their mental thoughts to see if there is a hint of physical or mental illness somewhere. As a person begins to get better, this process seems more entrenched and becomes more apparent. Also, you may find yourself doing this at every leisure moment, then getting into a mental battle with yourself to try and stop doing it. It also may seem that your mind is always 'going', and you can't seem to stop yourself from thinking, analyzing and problem solving about getting better.

You feel like you are under pressure all the time
You may feel like you just can’t get any breaks, or that you are under pressure all the time, with no way to relieve it. You may also feel that you can’t stop. Everything’s success depends upon you.

Constant feeling of being overwhelmed
This is a close cousin to the point previous, but you feel so under pressure that you feel overwhelmed by everything, and that there is no way out. This feeling is persistent and bothersome. Even just the thought of it causes fear and anxiety to overwhelm you.

Always feeling angry and lack of patience
Every little thing sets you off. While you used to be calm and collected, you now find yourself angry at almost everything, and it’s been a long time since you felt otherwise. When it comes to managing tasks, you find you have very little patience, and even simple matters make you angry and impatient.

Feel like crying all the time, often for no apparent reason
Once strong and resilient, able to handle anything, now you find yourself breaking down into tears for little or no reason. You may also suddenly feel the urge to cry, and you are not sure why, but you feel sad.

Unusually frightening thoughts or feelings
You may feel frightened or have fearful feelings about almost everything. Even small challenges well up fear in you and seem difficult or destined to doom or failure.

Sore or tight scalp or back of the neck
Your scalp feels sore, has shooting pains, or that the back of your neck and head are very tense.

Other symptoms are described as:
Being like a hypercondriac, muscle twinges, worry all the time, tingles, gagging, tightness in the throat, tightness in the chest, tongue twitches, feel like passing out, shaky, vomiting, breath lump, heart beat problems, head tingles, itchy tingling in arms and legs, and so many more.

In addition to these symptoms, you may also find yourself worrying compulsively about:• Having a heart attack• Having a serious undetected illness• Dying prematurely• Going insane or loosing your mind• Harming yourself or someone you love uncontrollably• Being embarrassed or making a fool out or yourself• Losing control• Fainting in public• Not breathing properly• Choking or suffocating• Being alone

These are some of the more common symptoms, but this list is certainly not exhaustive. It is common for people to experience one or more of these symptoms. While some may experience them all others may experience only a few.
© Jim Folk 1987 - 2004


I found this really helpful. Thank you! I've suffered from anxiety all my life and it's good to know that there are others out there dealing with similar stuff.
whyme!!!
QUOTE (Medium at Large @ Jul 19 2009, 10:00 AM) *
""Unusually afraid of normal things
You may become afraid of something that you had normally thought was not fearful. It may be a sudden fear of being alone, a fear of inanimate objects moving or talking, or an unsubstantiated fear for your safety to name a few (the fear that you may hurt someone or yourself when using a household knife is common--for example, you fear that you may uncontrollably stab a child, mate or yourself when using a kitchen knife)"".


Oh MY!!! This is the FIRST time I have seen this symptom listed! I went through this a couple of years ago when all this peri nightmare started. I was terrified to hold a knife for even something as mundane as peeling potatoes for fear that this crazy person inside of me would take over and attack the nearest person!!!!

Thank God I have since stopped this thought process.....but it truly is scary!
Thanks for posting these up.... mellow.gif


For me it's neighbours making a noise, or the thought that they might! I love it when they go out!!!! Crazy or what!!!!
chaotichar
Reading this does make a lot of sense to what I experience. Although I never really had these symptoms so severe before, it really scares me now. The only other time I could remember that I went through this was when I went through post-pardum depression 19 yrs ago. Now I'm 7 yrs post at 46 and I was fine until last year when I went through post tramatic stress. I ended up in the hospital getting all kinds of heart tests. Finally 5 doctors later dx me with anxiety disorder. Very hard to deal with. Anybody going through this I can so relate.
joyceveronica
QUOTE (chaotichar @ Oct 26 2009, 06:51 PM) *
Reading this does make a lot of sense to what I experience. Although I never really had these symptoms so severe before, it really scares me now. The only other time I could remember that I went through this was when I went through post-pardum depression 19 yrs ago. Now I'm 7 yrs post at 46 and I was fine until last year when I went through post tramatic stress. I ended up in the hospital getting all kinds of heart tests. Finally 5 doctors later dx me with anxiety disorder. Very hard to deal with. Anybody going through this I can so relate.

Dear 'chaotichar'
Yes I can relate especially so when diagnosed Post Menopausal.at a young age.
I used and still use .'albeit occasionally a small dose of Xanax and it does help.
I accept this condition now and do whatever I can to stay busy but somedays it can be can be very tormenting so my sympathies are with you.
I do Yoga, eat well etc but there are times when I am compelled to use the anti-anxiety drug.My Psychiatrist once told me to try not to make such a big deal out of it and if the Meds. help so be it. After all that is what they are intended for.
So God Bless,my friend.
You are not alone
Elizabeth
trinamcpee
I know I'm a little late here, however I felt to share with you after reading the posts and feeling hugely relieved that I am not dying... laugh.gif

I am 43 and my horrors started about 3 months ago very suddenly, where I had a few days of severe head spins, numbness down the right side of my face, shakiness and a general feeling of unrest. The symptoms were so bad I took to my bed and thought I had been bitten by something nasty (live in Oz and had been brush cutting the previous day!). I went to my doc and was sent for a CT Brain and had some pathology done...nothing except my FSH was suggestive of menopause. I also had some spotting over these few days which was unusual for me. The next 2 weeks were awful. I could hardly get out of bed, I thought I was going to die constantly, the head spins and anxiety kicked in and I had an array of physical symptoms that I was convinced were due to a deadly disease... sad.gif

My doc realised after a few weeks I was becoming a basket case and knowing this was not normal for me (I work at the hospital as a nurse where she works) subtly suggested that the hormone imbalance had brought on an anxiety disorder.. I didn't know what to think really as I had felt fine previously. however she persuaded me to commence an AD designed to help with anxiety to start with. After 3 weeks trying to increase the dose and my symptoms getting worse, she changed me onto a different AD with fewer side effects. After 2 months I finally went back to work last week, however my symptoms over the last week have increased again (got period after 45 days again!). I feel like I take meds all the time now to counteract one symptom or another and today have spent all day in bed taking advil to try and shift a migraine and not sure if I will be fit for work tomorrow! The doc also gave me some valium for when I get really bad and although I hate taking meds I have to say this has been a god send on occasions where I cannot control the anxiety.

I realise I am probably not about to die but boy I still feel that way on the bad days...I am unsure whether to try some "natural remedies" for the hormonal side or to try Estalin patch which the family planning doc suggested. If only we new how long to expect this it would be easier to make decisions...

I thank my partner for finding this site for me when I was incapable of searching for others who have gone through this and thank you all for your honest postings even if you don't have all the answers. I now know I am not alone
joyceveronica
QUOTE (trinamcpee @ Nov 23 2009, 12:04 PM) *
I know I'm a little late here, however I felt to share with you after reading the posts and feeling hugely relieved that I am not dying... laugh.gif

I am 43 and my horrors started about 3 months ago very suddenly, where I had a few days of severe head spins, numbness down the right side of my face, shakiness and a general feeling of unrest. The symptoms were so bad I took to my bed and thought I had been bitten by something nasty (live in Oz and had been brush cutting the previous day!). I went to my doc and was sent for a CT Brain and had some pathology done...nothing except my FSH was suggestive of menopause. I also had some spotting over these few days which was unusual for me. The next 2 weeks were awful. I could hardly get out of bed, I thought I was going to die constantly, the head spins and anxiety kicked in and I had an array of physical symptoms that I was convinced were due to a deadly disease... sad.gif

My doc realised after a few weeks I was becoming a basket case and knowing this was not normal for me (I work at the hospital as a nurse where she works) subtly suggested that the hormone imbalance had brought on an anxiety disorder.. I didn't know what to think really as I had felt fine previously. however she persuaded me to commence an AD designed to help with anxiety to start with. After 3 weeks trying to increase the dose and my symptoms getting worse, she changed me onto a different AD with fewer side effects. After 2 months I finally went back to work last week, however my symptoms over the last week have increased again (got period after 45 days again!). I feel like I take meds all the time now to counteract one symptom or another and today have spent all day in bed taking advil to try and shift a migraine and not sure if I will be fit for work tomorrow! The doc also gave me some valium for when I get really bad and although I hate taking meds I have to say this has been a god send on occasions where I cannot control the anxiety.

I realise I am probably not about to die but boy I still feel that way on the bad days...I am unsure whether to try some "natural remedies" for the hormonal side or to try Estalin patch which the family planning doc suggested. If only we new how long to expect this it would be easier to make decisions...

I thank my partner for finding this site for me when I was incapable of searching for others who have gone through this and thank you all for your honest postings even if you don't have all the answers. I now know I am not alone

My dear Friend
I know this is a hard time for you but having been a Menopausal mess I have to confess that HRT has been great for me
As regards ADs-and I am not a Doctor just have some experience=Anxiety usually increases in the first few months so it is very usual to take an Anti-Anxiety Med. till AD kicks in which could be up to three months
Anyway I just hope you find some relief soon.
There are ladies who do find relief from natural remedies and who knows they may do the job for you
Wish you all the Best
Elizabeth
And P.S. You are lucky to have a very supportive partner and know,my love,you are certainly not alone!
Gia*
I'm refreshing this post. I'm going through a rough patch right now. It seems that my estrogen level goes through a major crash about every six months. I have been able to manage anxiety, panic, depression etc in the meantime. I've honed my coping skills pretty well and carry my xanax wherever I go. But lo and behold my symptoms ultimately get worse and then I'm back to square one. I am convinced it's estrogen hitting a lower threshold and my body just freaks out. I get phobic, keyed up, palpy, irrational thoughts of doom, etc. My symptoms always start like this: depression -->hot flashes ---> palps ---> shortness of breath/exercise intolerance --->stomach distress ---> anger ----> driving, shower, store, hair dryer phobia --->constant tension ----> panic attack(s) ---->body on high alert.

As usual, eventually my body will calm down. It take a few weeks and then the cycle begin again, only the cycle begins with lowered stabilized estrogen amount...until the next drop.

kimdnov
[quote name='Gia*' date='Nov 28 2009, 12:20 PM' post='321122']
I'm refreshing this post. I'm going through a rough patch right now. It seems that my estrogen level goes through a major crash about every six months. I have been able to manage anxiety, panic, depression etc in the meantime. I've honed my coping skills pretty well and carry my xanax wherever I go. But lo and behold my symptoms ultimately get worse and then I'm back to square one. I am convinced it's estrogen hitting a lower threshold and my body just freaks out. I get phobic, keyed up, palpy, irrational thoughts of doom, etc. My symptoms always start like this: depression -->hot flashes ---> palps ---> shortness of breath/exercise intolerance --->stomach distress ---> anger ----> driving, shower, store, hair dryer phobia --->constant tension ----> panic attack(s) ---->body on high alert.

As usual, eventually my body will calm down. It take a few weeks and then the cycle begin again, only the cycle begins with lowered stabilized estrogen amount...until the next drop.


Sounds just what I am going through!
Kim
Gia*
QUOTE (kimdnov @ Nov 28 2009, 06:08 PM) *
Sounds just what I am going through!
Kim



((((Hugs to you)))) I'm over two years post and you'd think I'd be a "pro" by now. Nope. Each estrogen drop turns me into a pile of jelly.
scooterfroogie
QUOTE (Gia* @ Nov 28 2009, 11:47 PM) *
((((Hugs to you)))) I'm over two years post and you'd think I'd be a "pro" by now. Nope. Each estrogen drop turns me into a pile of jelly.



We are doomed Kim sad.gif
trinamcpee
QUOTE (joyceveronica @ Nov 26 2009, 06:06 AM) *
My dear Friend
I know this is a hard time for you but having been a Menopausal mess I have to confess that HRT has been great for me
As regards ADs-and I am not a Doctor just have some experience=Anxiety usually increases in the first few months so it is very usual to take an Anti-Anxiety Med. till AD kicks in which could be up to three months
Anyway I just hope you find some relief soon.
There are ladies who do find relief from natural remedies and who knows they may do the job for you
Wish you all the Best
Elizabeth
And P.S. You are lucky to have a very supportive partner and know,my love,you are certainly not alone!

Thank you for your kind words Elizabeth. I am still struggling along, trying to find patterns within this mess... I am going to the gynae tomorrow to discuss options for me. I really feel like I am oestrogen dominant and lack progesterone after some extensive reading but am unsure whether to try progesterone cream or not? Anyway I will see what the doc has to say and in the meantime try and keep grimacing through it!
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