Well I don't have any estrogen left and my boobs are still pretty good-heaven knows what they will be like after a course of Olay
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Well I don't have any estrogen left and my boobs are still pretty good-heaven knows what they will be like after a course of Olay
Please understand, I was not trying to hijack the thread..that was not my intent! The poster was speaking on what the product was doing for her and I added the information so that she COULD BE AWARE of what she was using and WHY she was experiencing what she did! I also added the other information about myself and my dd so that ANYONE who possibly finds this thread understands the pros and the cons of using it before they go that route.
I, for one, thoroughly understand how desperate we are to get rid of these unwanted symptoms! However, adding unneeded estrogen to my already dominant estrogen body, at least in the luteal phase, is not something that I personally want to do. I just wanted EVERYONE to know that these estrogenic chemicals that are in our environment are causing harm to some, namely our children and grandchildren because they and their parents do not know better. I posted the NAME of the Jergen's product for those who WANT TO USE IT and for those WHO DON'T! For those who don't have to worry about their children or think that this is ridiculous, well all I have to say is think about how you would feel if it were YOUR CHILD experiencing these unwanted symptoms (change in periods, change in moods, headaches, any of that sound familiar) that some of us are going through right now at the age of 12!!! Because of that, those products are no longer in my daughter's possession or mine...and Burt's Bee's products have now replaced those.
Anyone interested in other natural products for their children or for themselves can go to thegoodhuman.com.
Best wishes to EVERYONE on your road to IMPROVED HEALTH...
TJ
I, for one, thoroughly understand how desperate we are to get rid of these unwanted symptoms! However, adding unneeded estrogen to my already dominant estrogen body, at least in the luteal phase, is not something that I personally want to do. I just wanted EVERYONE to know that these estrogenic chemicals that are in our environment are causing harm to some, namely our children and grandchildren because they and their parents do not know better. I posted the NAME of the Jergen's product for those who WANT TO USE IT and for those WHO DON'T! For those who don't have to worry about their children or think that this is ridiculous, well all I have to say is think about how you would feel if it were YOUR CHILD experiencing these unwanted symptoms (change in periods, change in moods, headaches, any of that sound familiar) that some of us are going through right now at the age of 12!!! Because of that, those products are no longer in my daughter's possession or mine...and Burt's Bee's products have now replaced those.
Anyone interested in other natural products for their children or for themselves can go to thegoodhuman.com.
Best wishes to EVERYONE on your road to IMPROVED HEALTH...
TJ
Maybe the poster should give a HIJACKED warning when she feels her topic is being critically diverted.
On the other hand, the only resolutions offered in MOST of these threads or topics have required sidelining to cover.
It's like there are alot of talking heads here but the vast majority are not really interested in the facts. As I said once before, alot of people on this site just want to hear themselves and aren't seeking input or resolution.
This cream seems to work for some of you. The minute parabens listed could NOT POSSIBLY have caused hot flashes and anxiety to subside...even with a nightly accumulation. The amount absorbed is so small at that point on the list your body should be able to dump it pretty quickly.
DID ANY OF YOU READ MY POST ABOUT AN INGREDIENT MUCH HIGHER ON THE LIST...NICOTINAMIDE AND ITS EFFECTS? BENZODIAZAPENE LIKE EFFECTS. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THIS B VITAMIN INGREDIENT MAY BE REDUCING THE ANXIETY AND HOT FLASHES BY DIRECTLY AFFECTING SEROTONIN.
Put 2 and 2 together here and try to arrive at 4. You can TAKE NICOTINAMIDE or NO FLUSH NIACIN orally. You can add it to your own creams/butters/oils and avoid the PARABENS and other suspect cancer causing preservatives, stabilizers, colorants, emulsifiers, etc. But the only way you will know if it works is to actually DO IT. It's cheap but the cream you are buying is rather expensive. If the stimulus package doesnt' cover your Regenerist, here is a potentially viable alternative.
On the other hand, the only resolutions offered in MOST of these threads or topics have required sidelining to cover.
It's like there are alot of talking heads here but the vast majority are not really interested in the facts. As I said once before, alot of people on this site just want to hear themselves and aren't seeking input or resolution.
This cream seems to work for some of you. The minute parabens listed could NOT POSSIBLY have caused hot flashes and anxiety to subside...even with a nightly accumulation. The amount absorbed is so small at that point on the list your body should be able to dump it pretty quickly.
DID ANY OF YOU READ MY POST ABOUT AN INGREDIENT MUCH HIGHER ON THE LIST...NICOTINAMIDE AND ITS EFFECTS? BENZODIAZAPENE LIKE EFFECTS. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THIS B VITAMIN INGREDIENT MAY BE REDUCING THE ANXIETY AND HOT FLASHES BY DIRECTLY AFFECTING SEROTONIN.
Put 2 and 2 together here and try to arrive at 4. You can TAKE NICOTINAMIDE or NO FLUSH NIACIN orally. You can add it to your own creams/butters/oils and avoid the PARABENS and other suspect cancer causing preservatives, stabilizers, colorants, emulsifiers, etc. But the only way you will know if it works is to actually DO IT. It's cheap but the cream you are buying is rather expensive. If the stimulus package doesnt' cover your Regenerist, here is a potentially viable alternative.
"The minute parabens listed could NOT POSSIBLY have caused hot flashes and anxiety to subside"
Are you sure about this? As we know, things affect people very differently. Are there studies that show it's not possible to feel the effects of the amounts they used?
"DID ANY OF YOU READ MY POST ABOUT AN INGREDIENT MUCH HIGHER ON THE LIST...NICOTINAMIDE AND ITS EFFECTS? BENZODIAZAPENE LIKE EFFECTS. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THIS B VITAMIN INGREDIENT MAY BE REDUCING THE ANXIETY AND HOT FLASHES BY DIRECTLY AFFECTING SEROTONIN."
SKEE felt the same effects, yet the product she used had no nicotinamide (correct me if I'm wrong)
Are you sure about this? As we know, things affect people very differently. Are there studies that show it's not possible to feel the effects of the amounts they used?
"DID ANY OF YOU READ MY POST ABOUT AN INGREDIENT MUCH HIGHER ON THE LIST...NICOTINAMIDE AND ITS EFFECTS? BENZODIAZAPENE LIKE EFFECTS. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THIS B VITAMIN INGREDIENT MAY BE REDUCING THE ANXIETY AND HOT FLASHES BY DIRECTLY AFFECTING SEROTONIN."
SKEE felt the same effects, yet the product she used had no nicotinamide (correct me if I'm wrong)
Stimulus Package be damned, 
someone send a sample to be tested, CSI style... 
Just wanted to say, that the hype in here nudged me to look twice tonight at a bottle of the red stuff...
Only twenty dollars, Nirvana in a bottle...
I thought of you all as I sat it back on the shelf...
However, I am finding the discussion interesting in here....
You know I find it rather intriguing, that with such public awareness, and so many people choosing products w/o parabens, that I company that large would still choose to use them...
someone send a sample to be tested, CSI style... Just wanted to say, that the hype in here nudged me to look twice tonight at a bottle of the red stuff...
Only twenty dollars, Nirvana in a bottle...
I thought of you all as I sat it back on the shelf...
However, I am finding the discussion interesting in here....
You know I find it rather intriguing, that with such public awareness, and so many people choosing products w/o parabens, that I company that large would still choose to use them...
QUOTE (frozentundra @ Feb 24 2009, 10:01 PM) 
Maybe the poster should give a HIJACKED warning when she feels her topic is being critically diverted.
On the other hand, the only resolutions offered in MOST of these threads or topics have required sidelining to cover.
It's like there are alot of talking heads here but the vast majority are not really interested in the facts. As I said once before, alot of people on this site just want to hear themselves and aren't seeking input or resolution.
This cream seems to work for some of you. The minute parabens listed could NOT POSSIBLY have caused hot flashes and anxiety to subside...even with a nightly accumulation. The amount absorbed is so small at that point on the list your body should be able to dump it pretty quickly.
DID ANY OF YOU READ MY POST ABOUT AN INGREDIENT MUCH HIGHER ON THE LIST...NICOTINAMIDE AND ITS EFFECTS? BENZODIAZAPENE LIKE EFFECTS. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THIS B VITAMIN INGREDIENT MAY BE REDUCING THE ANXIETY AND HOT FLASHES BY DIRECTLY AFFECTING SEROTONIN.
Put 2 and 2 together here and try to arrive at 4. You can TAKE NICOTINAMIDE or NO FLUSH NIACIN orally. You can add it to your own creams/butters/oils and avoid the PARABENS and other suspect cancer causing preservatives, stabilizers, colorants, emulsifiers, etc. But the only way you will know if it works is to actually DO IT. It's cheap but the cream you are buying is rather expensive. If the stimulus package doesnt' cover your Regenerist, here is a potentially viable alternative.
On the other hand, the only resolutions offered in MOST of these threads or topics have required sidelining to cover.
It's like there are alot of talking heads here but the vast majority are not really interested in the facts. As I said once before, alot of people on this site just want to hear themselves and aren't seeking input or resolution.
This cream seems to work for some of you. The minute parabens listed could NOT POSSIBLY have caused hot flashes and anxiety to subside...even with a nightly accumulation. The amount absorbed is so small at that point on the list your body should be able to dump it pretty quickly.
DID ANY OF YOU READ MY POST ABOUT AN INGREDIENT MUCH HIGHER ON THE LIST...NICOTINAMIDE AND ITS EFFECTS? BENZODIAZAPENE LIKE EFFECTS. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THIS B VITAMIN INGREDIENT MAY BE REDUCING THE ANXIETY AND HOT FLASHES BY DIRECTLY AFFECTING SEROTONIN.
Put 2 and 2 together here and try to arrive at 4. You can TAKE NICOTINAMIDE or NO FLUSH NIACIN orally. You can add it to your own creams/butters/oils and avoid the PARABENS and other suspect cancer causing preservatives, stabilizers, colorants, emulsifiers, etc. But the only way you will know if it works is to actually DO IT. It's cheap but the cream you are buying is rather expensive. If the stimulus package doesnt' cover your Regenerist, here is a potentially viable alternative.
Froz...the Jergen's didn't contain Nicotinamide but I did make a note of it after you mentioned it initially. That said, speaking of serotonin, the first place I felt that lotion and realized something was going on was IN MY HEAD... I started having seizure like activity...didn't want to mention that before...felt it immediately in my head... It is hard to explain but it feels like sparks in your head... I get that same feeling when I use estrogen, progesterone, AD's, etc. It's like I can actually feel the product being absorbed in my brain! It took a day for the symptoms to wear off!
I also can't understand why a company as large as Jergen's would still be using parabens... Jergen's is much cheaper than the Oil of Olay product, however!
TJ
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"Maybe the poster should give a HIJACKED warning when she feels her topic is being critically diverted"
It is quite common for posters to mention the fact that their post has been "hijacked"
We are all women and have minds that flit all over the place and what can start out as one thread can end up becoming about something completely different.
In this case surely the thread started out as an almost light-hearted one about dabbing a little Olay cream on wrists to treat hot flashes.
It has turned into a really serious debate about parabens and chemicals and what horrors they might cause in our already chemical overloaded bodies.
The two things are surely different topics?
It is like someone posting that they have started HRT and feel marvellous on it and in the very same thread someone else pointing out the fact that -hey -glad its working for you but you do know it may give you cancer or a stroke?And then lots of people joining it on that theme, forgetting about the poor original poster who thought she was imparting something quite nice. The original intent of the thread has been lost.
That is what the hijacking comment is always aimed at. I am sure its not personal-its just to get the original post back on track!
AND LIGHTEN UP PLEASE. I thought the original post was harmless and fun. I notice that poor natesnonna is nowhere to be seen-such a hornets nest has she inadvertently stirred up
When my cream arrives and I have tried it (and probably found it to be useless ) I will start a brand new thread about it- so that sorts that out 
I will leave you others to your lively debate.
Hugs to all of you
janet c
"Maybe the poster should give a HIJACKED warning when she feels her topic is being critically diverted"
It is quite common for posters to mention the fact that their post has been "hijacked"
We are all women and have minds that flit all over the place and what can start out as one thread can end up becoming about something completely different.
In this case surely the thread started out as an almost light-hearted one about dabbing a little Olay cream on wrists to treat hot flashes.
It has turned into a really serious debate about parabens and chemicals and what horrors they might cause in our already chemical overloaded bodies.
The two things are surely different topics?
It is like someone posting that they have started HRT and feel marvellous on it and in the very same thread someone else pointing out the fact that -hey -glad its working for you but you do know it may give you cancer or a stroke?And then lots of people joining it on that theme, forgetting about the poor original poster who thought she was imparting something quite nice. The original intent of the thread has been lost.
That is what the hijacking comment is always aimed at. I am sure its not personal-its just to get the original post back on track!
AND LIGHTEN UP PLEASE. I thought the original post was harmless and fun. I notice that poor natesnonna is nowhere to be seen-such a hornets nest has she inadvertently stirred up
When my cream arrives and I have tried it (and probably found it to be useless
) I will start a brand new thread about it- so that sorts that out I will leave you others to your lively debate.
Hugs to all of you
janet c
I think it is fine and dandy for people to use these products if they are educated or at least attempting to educate themselves. I guarantee many of us gals here look at the ingredients in our products now a days. Why do we do this? We know we do or don't want the extra additives for our over all well being. Think back before we had problems, did you look for added hormones, and any other bad junk lurking in your skin care products? I sure didn't! If they claimed it fixed something I wanted it.
Now as far as hijacking, I don't think it is hijacking if we are trying to put all of the facts out there. There are women that come here just to read and if they read Olay regenerists makes you feel better and nothing more then we are doing them a disservice imo. If a woman is E dominant she sure doesn't want to be slapping this stuff all over her body! Just because you or I know what the phytoestrogens are and what they come from does not mean the next gal does.
Frozen is taking the right path in buying these products as a single item versus picking up a tub of cream and not knowing how much or what is in it exactly. As I mentioned you get a bit here a bit there and so on and so forth. We as women have been flooded with hormones over the years, and I honestly believe from what I have been reading this is why so many of us are having early menopause and many other female issues be that cancer, miscarriages, masculine bodies, early development of breasts or periods etc. Again it is those women out there that have NO CLUE they are getting all of these extra hormones from products that claim to do one thing or another.
There is always two sides to everything and those should be expressed when we are discussing someones health! I guess we should all read posts like this and say "oh yippy for you" and not explain why it does what it does, good or bad effects it could have on EVERYONE. So you are low in E, fine it might work for you but it won't work for someone high in E it could potentially cause them problems. It would be a whole different problem if one of these gals was screaming, don't use it. They aren't doing that, they are simply trying to get all of the facts in on the subject. There are post on bhrt, hrt, ad's where people literally tell others not to use it because they had issues and that is wrong. They should be able to note their experience and opinion for others to see the potential complications but to out right tell someone not to try something is absurd. Didn't see that happen here.
Now as far as hijacking, I don't think it is hijacking if we are trying to put all of the facts out there. There are women that come here just to read and if they read Olay regenerists makes you feel better and nothing more then we are doing them a disservice imo. If a woman is E dominant she sure doesn't want to be slapping this stuff all over her body! Just because you or I know what the phytoestrogens are and what they come from does not mean the next gal does.
Frozen is taking the right path in buying these products as a single item versus picking up a tub of cream and not knowing how much or what is in it exactly. As I mentioned you get a bit here a bit there and so on and so forth. We as women have been flooded with hormones over the years, and I honestly believe from what I have been reading this is why so many of us are having early menopause and many other female issues be that cancer, miscarriages, masculine bodies, early development of breasts or periods etc. Again it is those women out there that have NO CLUE they are getting all of these extra hormones from products that claim to do one thing or another.
There is always two sides to everything and those should be expressed when we are discussing someones health! I guess we should all read posts like this and say "oh yippy for you" and not explain why it does what it does, good or bad effects it could have on EVERYONE. So you are low in E, fine it might work for you but it won't work for someone high in E it could potentially cause them problems. It would be a whole different problem if one of these gals was screaming, don't use it. They aren't doing that, they are simply trying to get all of the facts in on the subject. There are post on bhrt, hrt, ad's where people literally tell others not to use it because they had issues and that is wrong. They should be able to note their experience and opinion for others to see the potential complications but to out right tell someone not to try something is absurd. Didn't see that happen here.
QUOTE (davinci817 @ Feb 25 2009, 10:29 AM)
Now as far as hijacking, I don't think it is hijacking if we are trying to put all of the facts out there. There are women that come here just to read and if they read Olay regenerists makes you feel better and nothing more then we are doing them a disservice imo. If a woman is E dominant she sure doesn't want to be slapping this stuff all over her body! Just because you or I know what the phytoestrogens are and what they come from does not mean the next gal does.
Exactly. What if this thread had not contained any of the info on parabens and their relation to estrogen? And I was in fact already estrogen dominant had started using it, not realizing the potential problems. Or had had an estrogen positive cancer? Is this helpful to me to disallow discussion of the positives AND possible negatives? Do we really want to blissfully do what makes us feel good and be shielded from posts that contain info that can help us make a more informed decision?
And many women who come here at some later date will go through old topics. If the discussion about parabens and estrogen were not allowed on this topic, but instead had to be started as another topic, women may not ever see the the other topic that related to it and think that Regenerist was the solution to her symptoms, and be totally unaware of the other issues that were raised which may have changed her mind.
I want to clarify that my comments are not directed to anyone in specific. Written words sometimes don't come across as intended in these sorts of forums. I do see the whole "hijacking a thread" issue in many topics, I am just not seeing it here. My opinion is that we should educate ourselves and anyone else that comes along to the fullest possible degree we can. I have many years of experience on forums and know it is very likely that one person will come along and read the first thread in a topic or bits and pieces (only the parts they want to know) and take it as facts. They run off do whatever it is that they read and then if and when they suffer consequences from that choice they come back blaming the original poster. Sure that is their problem for making such a quick decision, but we have a liability to expand that knowledge from our own experiences in order to help the next suffering woman that might visit us.
So honestly yippy I am truly glad that this product is helping several of you, and that is from my heart. Just remember it might not be the best product for the next gal. Shouldn't the next person that comes along know all of the ifs ands whys and hows too?
Personally I despise AD's, that doesn't mean it will not help many other women. For me it was a useless drug that helped nothing and was prescribed based on the lack of knowledge a Doctor had when it comes to hormone imbalance. I would never tell anyone not to try it and have actually recommended someone give it a go at times. I do however share my problems with AD's because others should be aware that there are risks and possible side effects, or that it might not work at all. I don't think that would put me in the classification of a thread hijacker, I am only trying to help.
Anyways Janet and Career I think highly of you both, always have and I am very happy one or both of you can get some relief from a very common otc product. I was honestly going to offer to post you the cream if it works for you Janet.
Right so I hope I haven't stepped on any toes. Many of you can understand I am angry at our food, drug and cosmetic industries atm. Personally I don't want additives in these things that can or have possibly harmed me. It should be my choice to have extra hormones placed into my body, not some big company hiding it under a name most of us would think was safe.
So honestly yippy I am truly glad that this product is helping several of you, and that is from my heart. Just remember it might not be the best product for the next gal. Shouldn't the next person that comes along know all of the ifs ands whys and hows too?
Personally I despise AD's, that doesn't mean it will not help many other women. For me it was a useless drug that helped nothing and was prescribed based on the lack of knowledge a Doctor had when it comes to hormone imbalance. I would never tell anyone not to try it and have actually recommended someone give it a go at times. I do however share my problems with AD's because others should be aware that there are risks and possible side effects, or that it might not work at all. I don't think that would put me in the classification of a thread hijacker, I am only trying to help.
Anyways Janet and Career I think highly of you both, always have and I am very happy one or both of you can get some relief from a very common otc product. I was honestly going to offer to post you the cream if it works for you Janet.
Right so I hope I haven't stepped on any toes. Many of you can understand I am angry at our food, drug and cosmetic industries atm. Personally I don't want additives in these things that can or have possibly harmed me. It should be my choice to have extra hormones placed into my body, not some big company hiding it under a name most of us would think was safe.
You are a sweetie davinci-we have had many interesting discussions before and I also do not have a problem with anyone individually here. I actually was thinking this afternoon when I was walking round the shops- that all you ladies on this thread are obviously highly intelligent enquiring women so why wouldn't you be picking apart the reasons why this Olay cream might be doing the business and where the pitfalls might be?
I am not adding to your discussion anymore because as I said before, the thread was started almost on a lighthearted note but it has taken a heavy turn which personally I feel is not necessary for me. To be honest I may be in a different place from a lot of others here, as having cancer has made me less- not more worried about these things. I did everything right in the past and worried about every little thing and it did no good because it was my time to get ill. So now i feel set free from those type of worries because if one thing doesn't get you then something else sure as h**l will! If I can find something as seemingly innocuous as a face cream that makes me feel a bit better than I do right now- then that is enough for me!
However having said that. and looking thru the posts from start to finish-it seems to me like a conversation that I would have with my sister and daughters where we would start off on a subject and would end up in a completely different place. I think it's called being a woman
Emotions can run high at our time of life and we are all going through different experiences so clashes are bound to occur.
Bless all you lovely ladies and I hope you can sort out the world with your enquiring minds!
janet c
I am not adding to your discussion anymore because as I said before, the thread was started almost on a lighthearted note but it has taken a heavy turn which personally I feel is not necessary for me. To be honest I may be in a different place from a lot of others here, as having cancer has made me less- not more worried about these things. I did everything right in the past and worried about every little thing and it did no good because it was my time to get ill. So now i feel set free from those type of worries because if one thing doesn't get you then something else sure as h**l will! If I can find something as seemingly innocuous as a face cream that makes me feel a bit better than I do right now- then that is enough for me!
However having said that. and looking thru the posts from start to finish-it seems to me like a conversation that I would have with my sister and daughters where we would start off on a subject and would end up in a completely different place. I think it's called being a woman
Emotions can run high at our time of life and we are all going through different experiences so clashes are bound to occur.
Bless all you lovely ladies and I hope you can sort out the world with your enquiring minds!
janet c
Thank you JanetC!! Your post is exactly what I needed today. I ditto everything you wrote.
Hugs,
CG
Hugs,
CG
In case you didn't pick it up, my hijacking comment was meant to let you all know I think its okay to reroute and in fact, pick apart subjects to obtain further or better information.
It was not a criticism.
I would like to see the FULL ingredient list on the second cream mentioned in this topic that ALSO stops hot flashes and causes the user to feel less anxious.
Under no circumstances would I promote or use parabens. I simply stated that the amount used at the bottom of an ingredient list like that is miniscule. Unless the paraben can act as a xenoestrogen and occupy estrogen receptors to block natural estrogen, I don't know HOW it could have any such effect other than as a potential neuro-toxin. As a neuro toxin it would have to accumulate in the tissues somewhere. Does anyone have studies to support that? If so, let's post in another thread entitled HIJACKED BY PARABEN PARANOIA! (just kidding.)
It was not a criticism.
I would like to see the FULL ingredient list on the second cream mentioned in this topic that ALSO stops hot flashes and causes the user to feel less anxious.
Under no circumstances would I promote or use parabens. I simply stated that the amount used at the bottom of an ingredient list like that is miniscule. Unless the paraben can act as a xenoestrogen and occupy estrogen receptors to block natural estrogen, I don't know HOW it could have any such effect other than as a potential neuro-toxin. As a neuro toxin it would have to accumulate in the tissues somewhere. Does anyone have studies to support that? If so, let's post in another thread entitled HIJACKED BY PARABEN PARANOIA! (just kidding.)
Wow! That was educational. I am still using the Regenerist Microsculpting cream (red jar). It makes a difference to me. My skin also looks better. I like that. I am also sleeping at night. I really like that.
But, for anyone with troubles I would strongly advise eschewing all soups and lotions in favor of pure castile soap. I think Burt's Bees is now owned by P&G or someone like that so organics have been hijacked as well.
Yours in Olay!
kym
But, for anyone with troubles I would strongly advise eschewing all soups and lotions in favor of pure castile soap. I think Burt's Bees is now owned by P&G or someone like that so organics have been hijacked as well.
Yours in Olay!
kym
NN..Am happy to see you post on the thread you started! I ditto everything you said above. I have been using the red jar for about two months and have noticed that my skin looks better. My morning anxiety has pretty much gone away and I am sleeping better.
Yours in parabens
CG
Yours in parabens
CG
QUOTE (Careergrl @ Mar 1 2009, 03:29 PM)
Yours in parabens
CG
CG
Too funny!
LOL!
I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaly dont need yet another facial creme, BUT that pretty red jar is calling my name...
QUOTE (La*la @ Mar 2 2009, 12:11 AM)
I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaly dont need yet another facial creme, BUT that pretty red jar is calling my name...
And it smells nice!!http://www.power-surge.com/php/forums/style_images/3/folder_post_icons/icon12.gif
Well wow! Just read this thread and have sent off for the miracle red pot....it's on special offer from Boots the Chemist. I'll try anything once! I shall keep reading to see the results of this thread. Worth a try girls. Can't wait for the cream to get to me.
I can't believe this, but it's working for me. I ran out last weekend and grabbed a little red pot of Olay. And I have to say, I've had very little anxiety all week. Maybe it's a placebo effect, but I don't care! It hasn't stopped it completely, but it definitely has taken it down a notch or two. And I haven't had a night sweat all week - hooray for good sleep.
QUOTE (4dogkids @ Mar 6 2009, 02:31 PM)
I can't believe this, but it's working for me. I ran out last weekend and grabbed a little red pot of Olay. And I have to say, I've had very little anxiety all week. Maybe it's a placebo effect, but I don't care! It hasn't stopped it completely, but it definitely has taken it down a notch or two. And I haven't had a night sweat all week - hooray for good sleep.
Okay, that's seals it...
I'll be buying a pot this weekend.
Oh! I want to try it too but I can't afford it!! 
ok, here's an update: I've been putting regenerist on the inside of my wrists for the last month and although my anxiety/easy panic button is still around, it's been "downgraded" to some degree. Maybe it's the power of suggestion? Maybe I should use the cream before my dental appt (LOL)? I dunno, it sort of works.
My cream is coming next week! I can't wait to try it. Hope I'm not disappointed. Keep posting everyone and share the results. Have a great day. X
QUOTE (frozentundra @ Feb 26 2009, 03:44 AM)
In case you didn't pick it up, my hijacking comment was meant to let you all know I think its okay to reroute and in fact, pick apart subjects to obtain further or better information.
It was not a criticism.
I would like to see the FULL ingredient list on the second cream mentioned in this topic that ALSO stops hot flashes and causes the user to feel less anxious.
Under no circumstances would I promote or use parabens. I simply stated that the amount used at the bottom of an ingredient list like that is miniscule. Unless the paraben can act as a xenoestrogen and occupy estrogen receptors to block natural estrogen, I don't know HOW it could have any such effect other than as a potential neuro-toxin. As a neuro toxin it would have to accumulate in the tissues somewhere. Does anyone have studies to support that? If so, let's post in another thread entitled HIJACKED BY PARABEN PARANOIA! (just kidding.)
It was not a criticism.
I would like to see the FULL ingredient list on the second cream mentioned in this topic that ALSO stops hot flashes and causes the user to feel less anxious.
Under no circumstances would I promote or use parabens. I simply stated that the amount used at the bottom of an ingredient list like that is miniscule. Unless the paraben can act as a xenoestrogen and occupy estrogen receptors to block natural estrogen, I don't know HOW it could have any such effect other than as a potential neuro-toxin. As a neuro toxin it would have to accumulate in the tissues somewhere. Does anyone have studies to support that? If so, let's post in another thread entitled HIJACKED BY PARABEN PARANOIA! (just kidding.)
I've been thinking about how minute amounts of parabens could work too. Perhaps it works like homeopathy.......? I got the red jar today and starting a trial run!
Still working after all these months. Have noticed that excessive amounts of wine can override the good effects though.
Just an update: After almost two years of no period, I'm spotting! I've also gained 2-3 lbs, with sore breasts and a ravenous appetite (sort of like PMS). Was I that low on estrogen that my is sucking up anything estrogen related? No anxiety though...I'm going to have to consider the trade offs
I've also gained 2-3 lbs, with sore breasts and a ravenous appetite (sort of like PMS). Was I that low on estrogen that my is sucking up anything estrogen related? No anxiety though...I'm going to have to consider the trade offs
Here's the list of ingredients for examination:
Water, Glycerin, Isohexadecane, Niacinamide*, Isopropyl Isostearate, Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate, Nylon-12, Dimethicone, Tocopheryl Acetate**, Panthenol***, Sodium Hyaluronate, Palmitoyl Pentapeptide-4^, Carnosine^, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract^^, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf^^^, Soluble Collagen, Elastin, Allantoin, Stearyl Alcohol, Polyethylene, Cetyl Alcohol, Sodium Acrylates Copolymer, Behenyl Alcohol, Benzyl Alcohol, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Polyacrylamide, Dimethiconol, Peg-100 Stearate, Stearic Acid, Disodium Edta, Cetearyl Glucoside, Cetearyl Alcohol, Citric Acid, C12-13 Pareth-3, Laureth-7, C13-14 Isoparaffin, Sodium Hydroxide, Ammonium Polyacrylate, Phenoxyethanol, Sorbic Acid, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Sodium Benzoate, Mica, Tin Oxide, Titanium Dioxide, Fragrance.*Vitamin B3, **Vitamin E, ***Pro-Vitamin B5, ^Amino-Peptide, ^^Green Tea, ^^^Aloe Vera
Water, Glycerin, Isohexadecane, Niacinamide*, Isopropyl Isostearate, Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate, Nylon-12, Dimethicone, Tocopheryl Acetate**, Panthenol***, Sodium Hyaluronate, Palmitoyl Pentapeptide-4^, Carnosine^, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract^^, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf^^^, Soluble Collagen, Elastin, Allantoin, Stearyl Alcohol, Polyethylene, Cetyl Alcohol, Sodium Acrylates Copolymer, Behenyl Alcohol, Benzyl Alcohol, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Polyacrylamide, Dimethiconol, Peg-100 Stearate, Stearic Acid, Disodium Edta, Cetearyl Glucoside, Cetearyl Alcohol, Citric Acid, C12-13 Pareth-3, Laureth-7, C13-14 Isoparaffin, Sodium Hydroxide, Ammonium Polyacrylate, Phenoxyethanol, Sorbic Acid, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Sodium Benzoate, Mica, Tin Oxide, Titanium Dioxide, Fragrance.*Vitamin B3, **Vitamin E, ***Pro-Vitamin B5, ^Amino-Peptide, ^^Green Tea, ^^^Aloe Vera
Here's the list of ingredients for examination:
Water, Glycerin, Isohexadecane, Niacinamide*, Isopropyl Isostearate, Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate, Nylon-12, Dimethicone, Tocopheryl Acetate**, Panthenol***, Sodium Hyaluronate, Palmitoyl Pentapeptide-4^, Carnosine^, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract^^, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf^^^, Soluble Collagen, Elastin, Allantoin, Stearyl Alcohol, Polyethylene, Cetyl Alcohol, Sodium Acrylates Copolymer, Behenyl Alcohol, Benzyl Alcohol, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Polyacrylamide, Dimethiconol, Peg-100 Stearate, Stearic Acid, Disodium Edta, Cetearyl Glucoside, Cetearyl Alcohol, Citric Acid, C12-13 Pareth-3, Laureth-7, C13-14 Isoparaffin, Sodium Hydroxide, Ammonium Polyacrylate, Phenoxyethanol, Sorbic Acid, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Sodium Benzoate, Mica, Tin Oxide, Titanium Dioxide, Fragrance.*Vitamin B3, **Vitamin E, ***Pro-Vitamin B5, ^Amino-Peptide, ^^Green Tea, ^^^Aloe Vera
Water, Glycerin, Isohexadecane, Niacinamide*, Isopropyl Isostearate, Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate, Nylon-12, Dimethicone, Tocopheryl Acetate**, Panthenol***, Sodium Hyaluronate, Palmitoyl Pentapeptide-4^, Carnosine^, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract^^, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf^^^, Soluble Collagen, Elastin, Allantoin, Stearyl Alcohol, Polyethylene, Cetyl Alcohol, Sodium Acrylates Copolymer, Behenyl Alcohol, Benzyl Alcohol, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Polyacrylamide, Dimethiconol, Peg-100 Stearate, Stearic Acid, Disodium Edta, Cetearyl Glucoside, Cetearyl Alcohol, Citric Acid, C12-13 Pareth-3, Laureth-7, C13-14 Isoparaffin, Sodium Hydroxide, Ammonium Polyacrylate, Phenoxyethanol, Sorbic Acid, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Sodium Benzoate, Mica, Tin Oxide, Titanium Dioxide, Fragrance.*Vitamin B3, **Vitamin E, ***Pro-Vitamin B5, ^Amino-Peptide, ^^Green Tea, ^^^Aloe Vera
QUOTE (Gia* @ Mar 12 2009, 05:38 PM)
Just an update: After almost two years of no period, I'm spotting! I've also gained 2-3 lbs, with sore breasts and a ravenous appetite (sort of like PMS). Was I that low on estrogen that my is sucking up anything estrogen related? No anxiety though...I'm going to have to consider the trade offs
I've also gained 2-3 lbs, with sore breasts and a ravenous appetite (sort of like PMS). Was I that low on estrogen that my is sucking up anything estrogen related? No anxiety though...I'm going to have to consider the trade offsWow Gia Do you think this has to do with the Olay? This whole thread is kind of concerning me. I am on my 3rd jar of Regenerist Micro Sculpting Cream. I use it morning and night but only on my face and neck area. I am also on BHRT. I am wondering if this could be causing a weight gain and if I am getting too much estrogen. It is so strange to think that a face cream could have these effects. Not to sound ignorant but I have never heard of parabens until I read this but will definitely be researching it more.
QUOTE (4dogkids @ Mar 6 2009, 08:31 PM)
I can't believe this, but it's working for me. I ran out last weekend and grabbed a little red pot of Olay. And I have to say, I've had very little anxiety all week. Maybe it's a placebo effect, but I don't care! It hasn't stopped it completely, but it definitely has taken it down a notch or two. And I haven't had a night sweat all week - hooray for good sleep.
Ok !!! So I started using the little red jar on Monday and last night I slept through the night without a hot flush waking me up for the first time in YEARS! Maybe it was just a one off, but just MAYBE it's due to the little pot......... Experiment continues....
Sorry, Its made no real difference to me-I would be worried if it had, really! I am sure that even with all the chemicals that are in it, the company would not be allowed to put them out in high enough amounts to deal with menopause symptoms.
If you go way back to the start of this thread there was a heated debate going on about all the stuff that is in this cream that could actually be harmful. Parabens was the main culprit I believe?
There does seem to be a lot of ladies posting that it is working for them but-gaining 3lbs and sore breasts? If it is really doing that (and I am not saying it isn't) then the stuff should be banned!
I think there might be a bit of a placebo effect going on here though
Its good as a facecream by the way but no miracle are observed as yet
janet c
If you go way back to the start of this thread there was a heated debate going on about all the stuff that is in this cream that could actually be harmful. Parabens was the main culprit I believe?
There does seem to be a lot of ladies posting that it is working for them but-gaining 3lbs and sore breasts? If it is really doing that (and I am not saying it isn't) then the stuff should be banned!
I think there might be a bit of a placebo effect going on here though
Its good as a facecream by the way but no miracle are observed as yet
janet c
QUOTE (janet c @ Mar 13 2009, 12:23 PM)
Sorry, Its made no real difference to me-I would be worried if it had, really! I am sure that even with all the chemicals that are in it, the company would not be allowed to put them out in high enough amounts to deal with menopause symptoms.
If you go way back to the start of this thread there was a heated debate going on about all the stuff that is in this cream that could actually be harmful. Parabens was the main culprit I believe?
There does seem to be a lot of ladies posting that it is working for them but-gaining 3lbs and sore breasts? If it is really doing that (and I am not saying it isn't) then the stuff should be banned!
I think there might be a bit of a placebo effect going on here though
Its good as a facecream by the way but no miracle are observed as yet
janet c
If you go way back to the start of this thread there was a heated debate going on about all the stuff that is in this cream that could actually be harmful. Parabens was the main culprit I believe?
There does seem to be a lot of ladies posting that it is working for them but-gaining 3lbs and sore breasts? If it is really doing that (and I am not saying it isn't) then the stuff should be banned!
I think there might be a bit of a placebo effect going on here though
Its good as a facecream by the way but no miracle are observed as yet
janet c
I did read all the thread Janet and found it very interesting. I also suggested that maybe, like homeopathy, these minute amounts of 'estrogen like' substances might be having an affect of some sort. If the effect is only a placebo one and it works well HEY!! that's good. Most of us who can't take hormones to replace our own clutch at all sorts of straws in an attempt to do something about it ourselves if we can and I've been SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO plagued by hot flushes and night sweats for several years now. I am considering acupuncture next....which some people say only has a placebo affect anyway. But I did have the best sleep ever for years last night and I can't think what else I did ( apart from stick that cream on my face) that might have helped. I agree that the cream is doing my skin a lot of good too!!!!!
I am in the same boat as yourself so I wanted it to work. Mind you I have been messing around with tiny amounts of hormones of late so my body has not been in a very stable state
I have been having acupuncture for 2 years following surgical menopause and whilst I don't feel it has helped directly with hot flushes it helps tremendously with anxiety which can have a direct effect on the flushes. I love my acupuncturist because she used to be a gyn so she has been very reassuring about my cancer.I would recommend you give it a try.
However-I don't want to "highjack" the thread so back to the cream-glad it seems to be working for you.
I am working hard on the chin area to try to get rid of the sag-and actually I do think my skin overall looks better.janet c
Well, I've been slapping it on my face for a week now and my skin is feeling great, but............still flushing.Sleeping better, maybe that's just a coincidence. 
Interesting updates, gals...
My RED jar sits unopened in my bathroom...
Still on the fence, I guess..
My moods have evened out due to consistent diet, exercise, and acupuncture...
keeping my fingers crossed...
My RED jar sits unopened in my bathroom...
Still on the fence, I guess..
My moods have evened out due to consistent diet, exercise, and acupuncture...
keeping my fingers crossed...
You're supposed to put the cream on the inside of wrists and elbows. Putting it on the face doesn't seem to have an affect. That said, I'm spotting after being post for almost two years. Today I feel like I'm having a period. Is it a coincidence that I started to spot and have premenstral symptoms when I started regenerist? hmmm.
Today I feel like I'm having a period. Is it a coincidence that I started to spot and have premenstral symptoms when I started regenerist? hmmm.
I am now on my fourth jar, no weight gain (actually bit of a loss but that's because I cleaned up my diet after Christmas!), no period, no sore breasts. When I started this post I really had no rules to how I use the stuff. I smear it on anything that looks dry, sun damaged or wrinkly. Oh, wait, the jar isn't that large.
The last month I've switched to just my face and neck and the back of my hands. Well, maybe a little swipe down one inner elbow for luck. For me, because I was on HRT then stopped, the change may be different. But it's there. Less Anxiety. Fewer night roasts. More sleep. Nicer skin. I'll keep it.
The last month I've switched to just my face and neck and the back of my hands. Well, maybe a little swipe down one inner elbow for luck. For me, because I was on HRT then stopped, the change may be different. But it's there. Less Anxiety. Fewer night roasts. More sleep. Nicer skin. I'll keep it.
I still can't believe that this cream can be doing so much! it hasn't worked for me yet. Is putting it on wrists and elbows essential? I haven't been up to now because its kinda expensive and I would prefer to slather it on my many lines
janet c
It's still working for me re; better sleep! But,the thing that has improved the most is my facials and neck skin. My skin definitely looks better. I can't remember when I first purchased it. It was many months ago, so I have been using it for awhile and it took time for my skin appearance to improve.
CG
CG
I'm not sure that putting it on my wrists and elbows would make such a difference...it will still go into your bloodstream when applied to the face surely? Anyway it's great on the face and I had another good night's sleep last night FANTASTIC!
well ladies, you have convinced me to try it..bought it yesterday...put it on my wrists...neck and top portion of chest...hot flashes and night sweats as before....so the jury is still out...but hey it is worth a try...I wake every two hours...and have been for two years now...ok...will keep you posted if I notice a change....can always use the red jar as a candle holder...
Coincidence??????????
I happened upon this post a few weeks ago and having been DYING to report my experience...
My anxiety started in Aug-07.......I tried everything on this green earth to stop it (hoping to do it as natural as possible) though at times I had to revert to anti-anxiety meds here and there. I would get in bed and almost immediately the anxiety would have me sitting up or jumping out of bed...same with awakening in the morning (and sometimes thru out the day) I was eventually diagnosed with GAD!
I went out last week and bought the product mentioned, tried it on my face a few days (my skin is sensitive and the product made me break out)...so, I said "well screw that!!" and thought okay, let's try the wrist/ inner elbows.
BELIEVE this if you want but my anxiety STOPPED within 20 mins...(it didn't stop my crazy thoughts) Grrrrr!!, but it sure stopped the tight chest, hyperventilation, butterflies, pounding heart! and yes, now thet I realize it I am sleeping better.
I also noticed (again, coincidental???) I had ovary activity (I've had 1 period since Sept 07...which was Aug 14-08) 3 days after starting the wrist/elbow rubbing, I started spotting..and still am (3 days now).
I filled my sister in on this news (she thinks I'm nutz0 now) and called it mind over matter! (She is 46 and refuses to believe her mental state is not associated with peri).
Anyways- this is my story...and I'm sticking to ...the OIL OF OLAY REGENERIST MICRO-SCULPTING CREAM)~~
I happened upon this post a few weeks ago and having been DYING to report my experience...
My anxiety started in Aug-07.......I tried everything on this green earth to stop it (hoping to do it as natural as possible) though at times I had to revert to anti-anxiety meds here and there. I would get in bed and almost immediately the anxiety would have me sitting up or jumping out of bed...same with awakening in the morning (and sometimes thru out the day) I was eventually diagnosed with GAD!
I went out last week and bought the product mentioned, tried it on my face a few days (my skin is sensitive and the product made me break out)...so, I said "well screw that!!" and thought okay, let's try the wrist/ inner elbows.
BELIEVE this if you want but my anxiety STOPPED within 20 mins...(it didn't stop my crazy thoughts) Grrrrr!!, but it sure stopped the tight chest, hyperventilation, butterflies, pounding heart! and yes, now thet I realize it I am sleeping better.
I also noticed (again, coincidental???) I had ovary activity (I've had 1 period since Sept 07...which was Aug 14-08) 3 days after starting the wrist/elbow rubbing, I started spotting..and still am (3 days now).
I filled my sister in on this news (she thinks I'm nutz0 now) and called it mind over matter! (She is 46 and refuses to believe her mental state is not associated with peri).
Anyways- this is my story...and I'm sticking to ...the OIL OF OLAY REGENERIST MICRO-SCULPTING CREAM
)~~
I am pleased that you think this a miracle product, along with many others on this thread. I have not found any difference with using it myself and actually if it were to have such a strong effect as everyone is suggesting then it ought to be removed from the shelves!
Could I just suggest that if you are spotting and have only had one period since 2007, that maybe you should just get it checked out with the doctor? I really am unsure as to whether this cream could have caused the spotting so please don't be complacent about it!
Sorry if I am "raining on your parade". I am getting a little worried about others on this thread who are attributing all sorts of hormonal changes on this cream.
I am keeping my eye out for any reports on the net about this product because you never know-maybe it does have an estrogenic effect.
janet c
This product would have to be the most successful skin care on the market world wide.. Even I at certain stages have used Olay.. I have not used the Regenerist line but once the Avon cream is finished will give the Olay a go .. My friends and work colleagues have praised this product for what it is. Not sure about the anxiety and hot flushes though..
gizzie
gizzie
QUOTE (janet c @ Mar 21 2009, 05:27 AM)
I am pleased that you think this a miracle product, along with many others on this thread. I have not found any difference with using it myself and actually if it were to have such a strong effect as everyone is suggesting then it ought to be removed from the shelves!
Could I just suggest that if you are spotting and have only had one period since 2007, that maybe you should just get it checked out with the doctor? I really am unsure as to whether this cream could have caused the spotting so please don't be complacent about it!
Sorry if I am "raining on your parade". I am getting a little worried about others on this thread who are attributing all sorts of hormonal changes on this cream.
I am keeping my eye out for any reports on the net about this product because you never know-maybe it does have an estrogenic effect.
janet c
Could I just suggest that if you are spotting and have only had one period since 2007, that maybe you should just get it checked out with the doctor? I really am unsure as to whether this cream could have caused the spotting so please don't be complacent about it!
Sorry if I am "raining on your parade". I am getting a little worried about others on this thread who are attributing all sorts of hormonal changes on this cream.
I am keeping my eye out for any reports on the net about this product because you never know-maybe it does have an estrogenic effect.
janet c
Uhm, thank you for your "concern". Yes, I am VERY aware that spotting warrants a doctor visit, which has already been arranged. There are plenty of posts on this board where women spot post menopausal independent of using regenerist. Geesh, lighten up on the lecturing, okay? We're all adult women here sharing their experiences.
OPPPS!!
I forgot to add that since the ovary activity/ Regenerist rubbing ..I've noticed I feel the need to cry..and almost feel angry! I haven't cried...and I don't have anything to feel angry about!
I forgot to add that since the ovary activity/ Regenerist rubbing ..I've noticed I feel the need to cry..and almost feel angry! I haven't cried...and I don't have anything to feel angry about!
I really wish there was an edit button with our posts. That said, I need to apologize for janet c, I think, if I recall she is a cancer suvivor (let me know if I'm wrong here), which explains why she is interested in understanding why this creme maybe causing strange estrogenic symptoms. Again, janet c, I apologize. Please continue to particpate with us in this thread!!!
Thank you for that Gia because I was just about to reply to you explaining my interest. I am in no way trying to lecture anyone. Its just that my cancer started off so innocuously with a little bit of spotting after no periods for several months. I always like to advise others to follow up on anything untoward even if it doesn't seem like much to them at the time.
I really care about the ladies on this site and I feel I can sometimes help. I don't want to be patronising or heavy. Its just I went through something quite traumatic and it would be awful if I didn't use my experience to help others!
Yes I had cancer but I also had a good outcome because I went to my doctor early.I like to suggest others do the same without frightening them if I can!
I am glad to read that you have an appointment to see your doctor and good luck!
janet c
I really care about the ladies on this site and I feel I can sometimes help. I don't want to be patronising or heavy. Its just I went through something quite traumatic and it would be awful if I didn't use my experience to help others!
Yes I had cancer but I also had a good outcome because I went to my doctor early.I like to suggest others do the same without frightening them if I can!
I am glad to read that you have an appointment to see your doctor and good luck!
janet c
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