Thanks Janet. I'd be interested to hear if you notice any positive changes with longer term use.

OK...here's one for you.....

I have been using various Olay products for several years now...I currently use 'total effects moisturiser' - which I note has parabens in - and regenerist eye serum - also has many parabens in....and I also use Boots 'refine and rewind'....does not say parabens, but am wondering about its contents.

I am 49 - no period for 20 months - so post, assumably(!)....I just did a test that shows I have high estrogens (all 3)...also high testosterone and progesterone.....and yet my symptoms are all of someone with low estrogens (no sex drive, hot spells, anxiety, some depression)????

I'm now wondering if my Olay etc., usage has pushed up my estrogens???

I guess the only way I'll find out is if I stop using all the above to see what happens?!

I'll be back on that one.

caz

Hubby noticed that my eyes looked "brighter" - the small sags and crinkles were really smoothed out and the lid area seemed lifted and fuller. And it took him three months to notice when I went totally blond once so you know the difference was noticeable.

Update: Not quite Sun. to Sun, but every time I log on this thread is at the top...

So, here it goes...

I used it Sun/Mon nights... only on my face, just three small dots spread around my face and throat...

I SPEPT LIKE A BABY...and felt so good, that it scared me...

I have not used it since last Monday....

I probably will use it again, just not sure when...

Hello Everyone,
This thread is getting VERY interesting. Can't wait for you all to post with your results!

I'd apply dog poop to my skin if I thought it would make me feel better Okay, I've caved in already - gonna head out and buy some on Monday.

We are all daft! Its mass hysteria at work We ought to send our findings, with the research we have done to Olay and demand a cut of their profits.

Career Girl - I've been an Olay user since I was very young. Don't ask how long ago that was! LOL! Well a loooong time ago. I started using the Regenerist line about five years ago and loved the serum and undereye serum. But now they aren't working as well. I was thinking of trying the sculpting cream. How exactly do you notice a difference? Is it truly firming...helps diminish wrinkles? How about evening out skin tone? I hate plopping down $25 at a pop only to find something that does nothing it claims to do. Which of the products do you use?
Tiona

I have used it for two weeks now...the microsculpting cream...and the face lotion...nothing is different...my hot flashes are the same...night sweats are the same....

NOTHING has changed !!!

so...we are just talking about the micro-sculpting cream right?...is this a facial only or body cream...and which one is working for various people?

Caz

Hey Tiona! I use the microsculpting cream. I can say that overall my face and neck skin have improved....I just got my eyes checked and I have 20/20 vision, so it's not that my eye sight has become blurred...LOL. Yes, it evens out my skin tone although that hasn't been my biggest skin aging problem. I'd say it has helped to dimish fine lines and I seem firmer around the chin area. I use Clinique eye cream and have for years. I must say tho', ahem....since I hit the 6th decade, my skin seems pasty looking...like it has no color, and I think that has to do with my skin becoming thinner...Anyway, I am happy overall with the microsculpting cream.

Cheers!
CG

Hi Caz! It is a facial and neck cream.

Hey where 'O where are my PARAben sisters...

We're here La la! Still experimenting! Antique XXX

I am a lucky girl because it's my birthday soon and my Mum is going to buy me another jar
I still can't see any difference to my skin but I don't have 20/20 vision like careergirl
janet c

I'm here. I tried it for 2 nights hoping to alleviate the hot flashes and the insomnia. It did help lessen the hot flashes but I had anxiety so had very little sleep. Then it dawned on me that I had a cup of coffee late in the evening on both nights so I'm going without coffee for a couple nights. Then, I'll try the Olay again and see what happens.
Experiment!!!!!

ive used it for 2wks now -anxietys down- could be placebo effect , but hey ill take it any way i can get it !!!!!!

I tried it for 3 nights and couldn't sleep at all. Not exactly anxiety--just wide awake and laying there frustrated. No hot flashes though. But, I need my sleep.

OK......call me crazy but I have been using this product for 1 month and during that time, my anxiety level down, no morning anxiety, no hot flashes or mild and sleeping like a baby. I have been out for about 8 days and since then my symptoms are returning. Just makes you go HMMMMMMMMMM. I am getting more!!!!

OK for those of you who have been following this thread....I've been using this cream for 6 weeks now and I think it IS having an effect. My hot flushes are a lot less frequent and they are shorter in duration. At night I sleep better. I'm half way through a pot and have ordered more. Anyone else feeling better for starting the cream?

Yes, I feel better and look better I have been using the cream about 6 months; maybe more, maybe less...but am happy with the results!

how much does it cost? does it work for peely like skin? i used to use ponds cold cream and loved it ,but now it's not doing a thing unless i leave some on,but then it makes you look way to greasy.

the real bonus will be if i discover it firms up my boobies and butt, too!

I'm with you!

Are you actually using it there or have I missed something?
Gosh it is so expensive I couldn't afford to use it on by boobs and butt-I would be using a pot a day
janet c

I've been quietly reading this post for awhile now. Some women feel it might have "estrogenic" properties while other have pointed out it contains parabens which might be harmful, not helpful. I'm very sensitive to small amounts of meds so I'm very interested, and believe, that this is truly affecting women in various ways. But, my question is this: If the Olay cream doesn't contain some type of estogen how can it be estrogenic? Couldn't the proposed toxic effect of the parabens be somehow suppressing something in our endocrine system to a more "even" level of homeostatis? Maybe that is why relief is being acheived? Or, is the massaging of the cream creating some "endorphine release" and subsequent relief? Don't know anything more than the next person but am curious. Have been using Oil of Olay face cream for years (but not the pod....yet.) Best Wishes, J.

I have been following this thread a bit, too...went and bought the correct product and started using it...it seemed to work after a couple of days...then on the fifth day I started getting anxiety surges and more skipped beats...then I quit using it and a couple of days later things calmed down...then decided to use it one more time to see if it could actually be the cream or a co-incidence...by that evening the anxiety surges and skipped beats started in again...didn't use it the next morning and by that evening things started calming down again.

So...I guess it is back to finding what works for each one of us...

The parabens supposedly attach to estrogen receptor sites and act as estrogen would...

I am very interested in your comments! I have been using this cream for a while now-I am part way through my second pot.
I really started using it for the fun of trying it out -given the light heartedness of the discussions at the beginning of the thread.
I do not rate it particularly special as a skin cream-it seems no different from any others I have used. I have not found it works for me in the way that some others say-in that it reduces their morning anxiety and flushes.

You have given me pause for thought though because I have been getting more and more low and tearful and anxious of late.
I am not using HRT. Estrogen, even in tiny amounts makes me tearful and foggy headed, but I do use a little testosterone which usually makes me feel upbeat and enthusiastic about life but at present is not. I have been battling this tearful feeling for ages and usually I am never tearful unless I use estrogen or things like black cohosh and soy which can have an estrogenic effect. I am crying at wildlife programs even when they are not sad
I have to be honest-I thought a huge placebo effect was at work here about this cream but now I am beginning to wonder?
I think I may stop using it for a while and see if I stop the crying jag!

janet c

Keep me posted on the outcome. I am very interested to hear your results...

I have also been watching this thread and have not went out to buy the cream yet as I assume it is pricey, but wanted to say that I use to use progesta few years ago and it helped me so much with some of my symptoms....things weren't as bad then as they are now, but I can remember it helping alot, however the ingred. for the tranmission into the skin was paraben....coinidently when they took it out for safety reasons?? it didn't work for me anymore....I ran all over trying to find it with paraben but no they said they didn't use it anymore....it was that simple. I knew it had something to do with the paraben then, there was no question about it. What does paraben do cause cancer? Anyway for those who can't afford htese creams for the toning they are supposed to give there are many natural remedies for this....you don't have to spend a fortune doing it. Does the cream truly change your skin or just tone and tighten as long as you use it? I found I make an egg white mask and you want to talk about tightening....it is not long term, like botox or someting but as long as you do it it makes a difference along with other home remedies...just search and it is alot cheaper and more natural, but if it helps the meno. symptoms then thatis another story. HUGS Mikki

Yes, the parabens are considered to be carcinogens...

What has this cream got to do with Pojesta? It doesn't claim to have the same affect. Are parabens responsible for transmission into the skin? Transmission of what? What proof do you have that parabens cause cancer? Please post them. The long term use of Botox isn't proof of anything yet, it has to be continually renewed and it isn't a home remedy; egg white will wash off. What proof is there that Olay Regenerist is cancerous? You can keep your egg white, it does nothing for me at all. I'd rather GO with my own body than take Projesta anyday. Never presume anything either! How do you know you can't afford the cream....if you don't know how much it is? If I were you I would just GO with my own body and not knock something you haven't tried. If anyone found a 'home remedy' that worked for menopausal symptoms then they'd make a fortune!

who the ...are you talking to....I have never...I repeat NEVER had someone so rudely respond to me like this...in all my years on this site!

Maybe you better reread my post before you get your undies in too much of a bundle.... the word paraben was brought up many, many times in this thread as possibly being the reason the olay stuff takes care of hotflahses all I stated was that many years ago I took progest which at the time had PARABEN it it and stated that maybe that is the reason it help so much for me with peri symptoms and when they took the paraben out it was so helpful anymore......I wasn't telling anyone to take progest only that it had PARABEN in it and maybe that is why it helped me then!! Secondly I asked the question about cancer, I NEVER said it caused it...... I never once knocked taking the olay for hotflashes or tighteninhg or wrinkle prevention bI also didn't come of the top of my head with it being expensive someone on the thread mentioned it so I assumed.... Did you jump all over them too!! I will also assume from common sense that botox lasts longer and is more potent than putting a cream on your face I never claimed to be a botox expert. REREAD!! I am glad you were able to take out on me whatever bad day you are having.

and yes paraben helps whatever cream you are taking to be better absorbed in the skin...why do you think in is so many creams...

Antique I'm cracking up -- I loved that post! Keep your eggwhites indeed. lol

Parabens are not considered carcinogens, even though there is a big controversy over it. The paraben-phobes are mostly people trying to hawk various forms of "organic" products. They make a lot of specious claims that have not been accepted.

I think sunflowermmh-you were saying that you had worked out that the Parabens was the magic ingredient that was removed from your Progesta and after it was removed the cream didn't work any more?
A bit of a misunderstanding I think ladies?

janet c

Yes Janet that is what I was saying....

I am glad some find humour in blasting someone so rudely for no reason I have never been treated like this before, but have seen it happen to others.....I just don't know what to say but goodbye because my feelings are really hurt and I can't fathom ever talking to others this way.....I would never respond to someone in this manner even if they had said something offensive to me...the sad part is I didn't and then to have others chime in and say it is funny......I am not 12 anymore and don't need to keep company with people like this.... goodluck to my friends I will miss you I will check my profile for a few days if any of you want to communicate with me outside of this site. When I saw this happen to others before I had no idea what of an impact it had on them..now I do...ladies choose your words wisely...I don't say this for any other reason than you have no idea how they effect people.

Hey Sunflower -- I'm really sorry I said that. I hadn't seen your response when I wrote it, and I didn't mean it against you. It was just the whole throwing up of one's hands over the whole paraben argument that struck me funny. I use the Olay, but I'm mystified by all the claims for it. It's a face cream. In my opinion, it won't get rid of your hot flashes, stop your palps, eliminate all your wrinkles, start your car on a cold day, feed your cat, or give you some horrible disease. It's just a face cream.

Again, I hope you'll accept my apology and not leave. This whole thread often makes me chuckle because of the exaggerrated claims and counterclaims coming from all perspectives. As you mentioned in your post, people often say things without thinking, and I certainly am guilty of that in this instance.

Mikki- First I have to say that I know witsend, and she truly doesn't have a mean bone in her body. I doubt she saw your post expressing your hurt over the previous post.

Second... don't leave because someone upset you. There are THOUSANDS of members here all benefiting from the different threads. Don't let ONE post keep you from reaching to and reaching out to the rest of us.

I have often times been misunderstood. It happens.

Keep your chin up, kiddo... I for one would miss you. You belong here.

Ahhhh! I KNEW it!!

We were posting at the same time.

Wits thankyou for the apology...I understand now what you posted...thankyou to janet and leanne for your kind words and I am sorry janet that others have treated you poorly that is just not right...I know I can be sensitive sometimes, but I just couldn't understand this ( it was the 1st for me so maybe I haven't developed my tough outer shell yet).... and from people who are here to support eachother...I mean if we can't come here safely and interact respectfully what good is it.

I have read and reread my post and read and reread the other and the only thing I can see that could have been misread was the end when I said if it helps with menopause symptoms than thats another story meaning the olay not egg whites and have at it if it helps....anything is a relief at this point. I can see why that would be funny...egg whites for hotflashes now that is not one I have heard of. The rest is just inexcusable... I have a hard time believing this person read my post slowly because i can't figure out where the rest of it came from. I mean I know I am not the best at puctuating where needed and that can throw a whole sentence off but come on....anyway thanks agains for lifting me back up...HUGS Mikki

Mikki, I have to jump in here and stand up for you! I thought antique's reply was very rude too! I do understand our mood changes during this trying time in our lives, and maybe that was why antique was rude. I think you deserve an apology! Just my two cents -- I don't want anyone jumping me. I am very sensitive too!

Also... I've been following this thread since it began, and have found it so interesting and educational. I've always read food labels, and now I'm reading cosmetic labels, searching for natural, healthy alternatives to mainstream products. Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread.

Sunflowermmh...all I did was ask a few questions you know... if I upset you by asking those questions then I apologise to you. I NEVER set out to be rude. I don't think I was.... I never accused you of anything.......... however I DID jump on you a bit and for that I say sorry...don't leave......I am a big meany. ....I honestly didn't mean to upset you. Please forgive me.................

i agree with all of you! everyone here is a bit hormonal and tired, i am.....yet getting so much input is great.
love ya all
boo

ps: wasn't there a saying about getting egg on your face? or am i just putting my foot in my mouth! ugghhh, slept 4 hours last nite

Well - I bought some of this cream on Monday -- Going to apply some tomorrow - will let you all know how it goes...




Antique -
I hope Sunflower will accept your apology. It's a very sweet and sincere post...... We all have our hormonal 'off days' ---- I think you're a sweetheart for posting this, and it clearly demonstrates that you didn't mean to offend anyone ----

Yep, Wits, my thoguth exactly, it is everywhere, it is common preservative found in food and cosmetics, nothing esle.
It is "organic "cosmetic companies that make claims without having anything to back it up, as usual, all dollar driven, same as they make you think Ester C is much better than regular viramin C, which is nothing but preservative (ascrobic acid), and in reality, has nothign to do with vitamin C our body uses.
There are lots of scams out there, god bless interent, anyone can post anything.
As for Regenerist, afetr all the heated debates, I gave in and had myself one too, only used it on my face.
It is not bad facial moistureizer, I would say, and no, i did not expect muracle and it is cheap in my book, only $29 in drugstore and 2 for $38 in costco. if you compare price to Macy's products and famous Creme de Lamer for 120 per oz, this is cheap and good facial cream, IMHO.
I have used some very expensive once, all of them contain paraben and the Lamer was the worst cream I ever used, and a huge rip off.
O'lay at least, delivers some results at a much lower price.
I say egg white works for oily skin, and I use egg yolks if you want really good results for dryed and aging skin.
I am almost done with my jar, my face looks fine, pretty much as it used to, a bit better perhaps, so I am thinking to get 2 more in costco.
However, I have not seen any improvements in the way I feel, whatsoever, but I use it as intended on my face. I also have lots of body moistureizers with paraben, I am not too afraid of it, and if there was such effect, I would definetely goteen better.
Frankly, it is quite the opposite, I feel worse than ever, but I doubt it has nothing to do with the cream, it is due to my estrogen sliding.
i really wanted to stay away from this thread, sorry if I said something wrong, as I can see it is already "hot "topic.
Paraben or not, whatever works, we can't avoid chemicals, as our body is a bunch of chemicals and water, and protein, nothing esle.
One last thing, skin is built from within, while it is important to use moisturizers, health diet is the most important thing for good skin, with plenty of olive oil internally and externally;)
reagrds,
I.

Ira, Good to 'see' you on this thread! You always have such sound advice, IMHO! I am continuing with Regenerist as I know my skin looks slightly better since using it and, I consider it cheap in comparision with some highly touted facial creams of which I have used several. I have never had the positive results as with Regenerist.

Cheers!
CG

Hi CG,
I've finally caved in, LOL, I did not want to pour gasoline on fire, to begin with, as my candor sometimes can be very irritable I am sure, consider we all hormonal here, so I tried to stay out of it.

I agree on the skin benefits, i think it worked so far better than all expensive creams I have used, and it is good deal for the price, so I am sticking with it too, for another 2 jars, LOL.
I tried different "natural" and "herbal" cosmetic lines, and they do nothing at our age, really. I could just shmear some strawberries on my face for exfolication, have made egg yolk and olive oil mask to tighten and lift, and use cucumber peel to mositure my sking, while making salad with the rest of the cuke.
Point is, most good skin care systems use chemicals, not herbs, and this is proven to work much better than "green" and "organic" and "herbal".
I also found elizabeth arden moisturizer in costco, that was super deal, 2 jars for $29, got it too, and alternate, so far so good.
Hugs,
I.

Hi Boohoo,
I think I'm the one with egg on her face, but I've been forgiven. I was hoping to turn into a 'sweet old lady' and then this 'wicked witch of the north' appeared inside me and wham! I was very ratty. I hate hormones.....and I haven't got many left! LOL! I have to say I don't think this cream is working now....either that or it's responsible for turning me into the old bag I'm trying to avoid being!!! Love you all Antique XX