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janet c


I am not saying by the way that I think this cream could cause cancer. What I am worried about is the fact that because some- like yourself have started suddenly spotting after years of no periods, they are attributing it to the cream- which could be a smokescreen if you see what I mean?
janet c
EVEWASFRAMED
QUOTE (Careergrl @ Feb 12 2009, 02:43 PM) *
I've been using my Olay Regenerist on my wrists and inside my elbows for the last 6 nights. I also use tea tree oil on my feet at night. I am not on HRT nor B/HRT and never have been. I am waking up anxiety free for the first time in many years. I would wake up with such dread most days and have awful thoughts. I am 9 years post!! Yes, I know about parabens but I feel like I am in heaven now and have had enough of the anxiety. It can be debilitating as some of you know!!

CG



I feel as you do (no more night sweats/ hot flushes/ anxiety free)... The anxiety alone was socially debilitating.

I'm amazed at this..but also nervous / scared.

I will continue for a few more days/ nights until I hope to have anxiety under control...than I'll try a day/night without the Regenerist!

What to do! What to do!
antique
I think it'll be interesting to see if janet c finds anything out on the net. Let us know janet. Love Antique biggrin.gif
EVEWASFRAMED
QUOTE (janet c @ Mar 21 2009, 09:27 AM) *
I am pleased that you think this a miracle product, along with many others on this thread. I have not found any difference with using it myself and actually if it were to have such a strong effect as everyone is suggesting then it ought to be removed from the shelves!
Could I just suggest that if you are spotting and have only had one period since 2007, that maybe you should just get it checked out with the doctor? I really am unsure as to whether this cream could have caused the spotting so please don't be complacent about it!
Sorry if I am "raining on your parade". I am getting a little worried about others on this thread who are attributing all sorts of hormonal changes on this cream.
I am keeping my eye out for any reports on the net about this product because you never know-maybe it does have an estrogenic effect.
janet c



Evidently-I should have read each and every post connected to this thread!
I just happened to "skim" over the positive post and thought-yea,I'll try it! (As I mentioned before, I'm really trying to get thru this phase of my life as natural as possible).
Honestly- Anxiety freaked me out (as well as menopause)--I had no idea it could do the things it did to me (I turned into a scaredy Cat ohmy.gif(((( I couldn't even hold a "quiet" conversation anymore without hyperventilating/ chest pain/ tightness/ health anxiety....since the Olay rubbing, I swear-it all left me!! (tho, I do have a watchful eye opened awaiting the return of it....but truly, it hasn't!)

I commend you for your concern of us ladies (Thank you for caring enough to enlighten me on this product) and everything else I come to this site to learn about!!!


Hugs
~Helen~


P.S. This site is a God send!..I've passed it on to MANY peeps!
La*la
I'm smearing up the bod later tonight in the Big Red Paraben Pool. laugh.gif

*shivers*
Sariah
QUOTE (La*la @ Mar 21 2009, 11:01 AM) *
I'm smearing up the bod later tonight in the Big Red Paraben Pool. laugh.gif

*shivers*



laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Sariah
I spoke with a woman yesterday whom I had met online on a hormone group. I was telling her that while estradiol has helped me so much, due to my health anxiety I am always worried which is why I stopped it recently. I had to go back on it due to debilitating symptoms.

She also uses it and I asked her if she was worried about cancer. She said, yes, she had thought long and hard about the possible risk, and decided she was willing to accept that risk so she could function. Her mother and grandmother developed debilitating health issues at menopause that never resolved and have been miserable for many years and my friend does not want that for herself, thus is willing to take the risk.

We all have need to do due diligence in researching the pros and cons of what we are putting into our bodies and then weigh the risks vs. the benefits. There is something to be said for the importance of quality of life.
La*la
Okay ladies...

I'm going in.... biggrin.gif 11PM Sat night....Woo-hooooo

reporting back next week...Sunday...

(I'm expecting to awake joyful, cute and lustful biggrin.gif ) OK extremely lustful... (is that an effect) laugh.gif
kar4242
Does this stuff smell bad? Can you buy it in CVS?
witsend
Hi Kar: Yes you can buy it at CVS. It's the Regenerist microsculpting cream. I've used it for a couple of years as a facial moisturizer, and it's good at that. I'm not sure about all the other claims about its benefits, but if it seems to have those properties to some people, then all the better.

I asked this before I think ... but I was wondering whether anyone had tried the Pro-X line yet? Just wondering if there were any better effects on that than the Regenerest -- for face I mean, not the other stuff. I'm so shallow. lol
janet c
QUOTE (antique @ Mar 21 2009, 03:18 PM) *
I think it'll be interesting to see if janet c finds anything out on the net. Let us know janet. Love Antique biggrin.gif


I can't find anything apart from the fact it contains the dreaded parabens and that it has great reviews for working on the skin.
I have tried googling all sorts of phrases to see if there is anyone out there who has noticed the effects mentioned here but- nothing so far.
It is possible to e-mail Olay with comments and questions-I found it on the home page.
Anyone who wishes to, could contact Olay-maybe even send them the link to this thread and see what comments they come back with ?

I shall keep searching anyway. Gosh this thread is continuing to grow! Olay's profits must be going thru the roof courtesey of Powersurge's desperate housewives laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

janet c
antique
Hi janet c, it IS getting very popular. I wonder if their sales have gone up lately. blink.gif sleep.gif rolleyes.gif
Gia*
well everyone, I got a full blown period, flooding, cramps and all the trimmings. I'm well past the post meno 12 month mark. A coincidence maybe? rengenerist maybe? hmmm. I will still see my gyno even though I'm actually experiencing a period (not spotting).
antique
My goodness Gia, I hope they don't take it off the shelves! blink.gif Hope you're feeling OK
janet c
Gia I am sorry that you have a full blown period , however just spotting post meno is more worrying.
Its a shame that you had gone past the year mark but it does happen mad.gif You must be quite fed up about it! It means you have to start counting again!

Hope you will feel better soon

janet c
Gia*
thank you for the well wishes! yes, I'm not so concerned with the counting down process as I am with the inevitable sudden drop in estrogen as part of the whole natural meno process. This causes me to become a basketcase with a whole host of issues, including anxiety mad.gif
iluvtolaff
QUOTE (janet c @ Mar 22 2009, 01:25 PM) *
It is possible to e-mail Olay with comments and questions-I found it on the home page.
Anyone who wishes to, could contact Olay-maybe even send them the link to this thread and see what comments they come back with ?
janet c


Good Lord, don't do that! Then they'll plug it as the new menopause miracle treatment and jack up the price to double or triple!! ohmy.gif
frozentundra
Water, Glycerin, Isohexadecane, Niacinamide*, Isopropyl Isostearate, Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate, Nylon-12, Dimethicone, Tocopheryl Acetate**, Panthenol***, Sodium Hyaluronate, Palmitoyl Pentapeptide-4^, Carnosine^, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract^^, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf^^^, Soluble Collagen, Elastin, Allantoin, Stearyl Alcohol, Polyethylene, Cetyl Alcohol, Sodium Acrylates Copolymer, Behenyl Alcohol, Benzyl Alcohol, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Polyacrylamide, Dimethiconol, Peg-100 Stearate, Stearic Acid, Disodium Edta, Cetearyl Glucoside, Cetearyl Alcohol, Citric Acid, C12-13 Pareth-3, Laureth-7, C13-14 Isoparaffin, Sodium Hydroxide, Ammonium Polyacrylate, Phenoxyethanol, Sorbic Acid, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Sodium Benzoate, Mica, Tin Oxide, Titanium Dioxide, Fragrance.*Vitamin B3, **Vitamin E, ***Pro-Vitamin B5, ^Amino-Peptide, ^^Green Tea, ^^^Aloe Vera

If this is the accurate list of ingredients, there is something further here to consider. The third item on this list is a petroleum distillate. Basic research reveals it is a refined isoparaffin (paraffin as in wax candles as in derived from petroleum.)


Isohexadecane

Isohexadecane is a mixture of highly branched C16 isoparaffins with a small proportion of C12 and C20 paraffins of similar structure.

The main use of Isohexadecane is in high quality cosmetic and personal care products, where very low toxicity and skin irritation, and a lack of colour and odour are essential properties. Isohexadecane forms particularly robust emulsions (creams), which is an important feature for the product formulator. To the consumer, the non-greasy silky feel that Isohexadecane products leave on the skin is particularly appreciated. Foundation creams, sun care creams, lip creams, deodorants and antiperspirant sticks, make up removers and hair conditioners are amongst the products that have been formulated with Isohexadecane. The known poison data for isoparaffin is located here:

http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemic...C33012#Toxicity

This substance may potentially be an endocrine disruptor, as are MOST petroleum based products or dstillates.

As for the parabens, here is research and factual data provided by a womens breast cancer reearch group:

http://www.breastcancerfund.org/site/pp.as...E&b=1203361

Without going into greater detail, it appears that this particular product contains not only a significant grouping of parabens but other synthetics and near the top of its list is a petroleum distillate, which may be highly concentrated owing to its purification data, and it is a potential endocrine disruptor. If you put this date together, without even researching the other synthetic elements in this product I think you will find your answers as to WHY it may be affecting you and that it, in fact, may indeed be accumulating in your tissues. Not as I suspected originally based on the niacinimidec content but perhaps in your estrogen receptors as was originally speculated. I think Olay needs to conduct a study utilizing 1500 40-70 year old women and run some baseline endocrines on them as well as standard baseline functions with CA marker tests and then place this group on a controlled daily useage of this product for 6 months and retest ALL at the conclusion of the trial.

The niacinimade is particularly hard to absorb through the skin without providing it a special transdermal vehicle. If the vitamin were heated to liquefy it would likely damage its effectiveness. Therefore, it seems reasonable to assume it may require the highly concentrate, purified isoparaffin to create that delivery system. What delivers the vitamins in this product will also deliver the parabens/potential endocrine disruptors equally effectively. If it is being stored in fatty tissues as an oil based product, it could certainly accumulate quickly and hold an effect over a period of time. I would like to see precisely what form of niacinamide is used and whether there is any evidence that it can be made bioavailable transdermally at all.

There are two critical factors to be examined within this product profile. The first is the vitamin profile which may or may not be equally effective or effective whatsoever at the skin level of women, based upon its purity and transdermal delivery factors and the second is accumulation data for the paraben/petroleum distillate profile...which is far more extensive than I had initially suspected. To summate; without better data it is impossible to indicate or indict these factors for exerting the influences described. Studying the ingredient data supplied, I do not believe the symptoms being described are psychosomatic.

For those ladies who reported a regular useage without the positive results reported, were you at that time on ANY hormone replacement including but not limited to creams, soy useage or isoflavone useage?

For those ladies who report excellent results beyond skin softening properties, are you using any form of hormone replacement including any natural forms as listed above?


THANK YOU!




janet c
QUOTE (iluvtolaff @ Mar 22 2009, 08:17 PM) *
Good Lord, don't do that! Then they'll plug it as the new menopause miracle treatment and jack up the price to double or triple!! ohmy.gif

That's why I reported back but haven't done anything. I am sure you ladied would never forgive me laugh.gif
janet c
[quote name='frozentundra' date='Mar 22 2009, 08:59 PM' post='274332']
Water, Glycerin, Isohexadecane, Niacinamide*, Isopropyl Isostearate, Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate, Nylon-12, Dimethicone, Tocopheryl Acetate**, Panthenol***, Sodium Hyaluronate, Palmitoyl Pentapeptide-4^, Carnosine^, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract^^, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf^^^, Soluble Collagen, Elastin, Allantoin, Stearyl Alcohol, Polyethylene, Cetyl Alcohol, Sodium Acrylates Copolymer, Behenyl Alcohol, Benzyl Alcohol, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Polyacrylamide, Dimethiconol, Peg-100 Stearate, Stearic Acid, Disodium Edta, Cetearyl Glucoside, Cetearyl Alcohol, Citric Acid, C12-13 Pareth-3, Laureth-7, C13-14 Isoparaffin, Sodium Hydroxide, Ammonium Polyacrylate, Phenoxyethanol, Sorbic Acid, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Sodium Benzoate, Mica, Tin Oxide, Titanium Dioxide, Fragrance.*Vitamin B3, **Vitamin E, ***Pro-Vitamin B5, ^Amino-Peptide, ^^Green Tea, ^^^Aloe Vera

If this is the accurate list of ingredients, there is something further here to consider. The third item on this list is a petroleum distillate. Basic research reveals it is a refined isoparaffin (paraffin as in wax candles as in derived from petroleum.)


Isohexadecane

Isohexadecane is a mixture of highly branched C16 isoparaffins with a small proportion of C12 and C20 paraffins of similar structure.

The main use of Isohexadecane is in high quality cosmetic and personal care products, where very low toxicity and skin irritation, and a lack of colour and odour are essential properties. Isohexadecane forms particularly robust emulsions (creams), which is an important feature for the product formulator. To the consumer, the non-greasy silky feel that Isohexadecane products leave on the skin is particularly appreciated. Foundation creams, sun care creams, lip creams, deodorants and antiperspirant sticks, make up removers and hair conditioners are amongst the products that have been formulated with Isohexadecane. The known poison data for isoparaffin is located here:

http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemic...C33012#Toxicity

This substance may potentially be an endocrine disruptor, as are MOST petroleum based products or dstillates.

As for the parabens, here is research and factual data provided by a womens breast cancer reearch group:

http://www.breastcancerfund.org/site/pp.as...E&b=1203361

Without going into greater detail, it appears that this particular product contains not only a significant grouping of parabens but other synthetics and near the top of its list is a petroleum distillate, which may be highly concentrated owing to its purification data, and it is a potential endocrine disruptor. If you put this date together, without even researching the other synthetic elements in this product I think you will find your answers as to WHY it may be affecting you and that it, in fact, may indeed be accumulating in your tissues. Not as I suspected originally based on the niacinimidec content but perhaps in your estrogen receptors as was originally speculated. I think Olay needs to conduct a study utilizing 1500 40-70 year old women and run some baseline endocrines on them as well as standard baseline functions with CA marker tests and then place this group on a controlled daily useage of this product for 6 months and retest ALL at the conclusion of the trial.

The niacinimade is particularly hard to absorb through the skin without providing it a special transdermal vehicle. If the vitamin were heated to liquefy it would likely damage its effectiveness. Therefore, it seems reasonable to assume it may require the highly concentrate, purified isoparaffin to create that delivery system. What delivers the vitamins in this product will also deliver the parabens/potential endocrine disruptors equally effectively. If it is being stored in fatty tissues as an oil based product, it could certainly accumulate quickly and hold an effect over a period of time. I would like to see precisely what form of niacinamide is used and whether there is any evidence that it can be made bioavailable transdermally at all.

There are two critical factors to be examined within this product profile. The first is the vitamin profile which may or may not be equally effective or effective whatsoever at the skin level of women, based upon its purity and transdermal delivery factors and the second is accumulation data for the paraben/petroleum distillate profile...which is far more extensive than I had initially suspected. To summate; without better data it is impossible to indicate or indict these factors for exerting the influences described. Studying the ingredient data supplied, I do not believe the symptoms being described are psychosomatic.

For those ladies who reported a regular useage without the positive results reported, were you at that time on ANY hormone replacement including but not limited to creams, soy useage or isoflavone useage?

For those ladies who report excellent results beyond skin softening properties, are you using any form of hormone replacement including any natural forms as listed above?


THANK YOU!
[/quote

Oh goodness me-sooo technical! Would you like to contact Olay and advise them what tests they ought to be running?
Good luck with that!
janet c

janet c
[quote name='janet c' date='Mar 22 2009, 09:08 PM' post='274334']
[quote name='frozentundra' date='Mar 22 2009, 08:59 PM' post='274332']
Water, Glycerin, Isohexadecane, Niacinamide*, Isopropyl Isostearate, Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate, Nylon-12, Dimethicone, Tocopheryl Acetate**, Panthenol***, Sodium Hyaluronate, Palmitoyl Pentapeptide-4^, Carnosine^, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract^^, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf^^^, Soluble Collagen, Elastin, Allantoin, Stearyl Alcohol, Polyethylene, Cetyl Alcohol, Sodium Acrylates Copolymer, Behenyl Alcohol, Benzyl Alcohol, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Polyacrylamide, Dimethiconol, Peg-100 Stearate, Stearic Acid, Disodium Edta, Cetearyl Glucoside, Cetearyl Alcohol, Citric Acid, C12-13 Pareth-3, Laureth-7, C13-14 Isoparaffin, Sodium Hydroxide, Ammonium Polyacrylate, Phenoxyethanol, Sorbic Acid, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Sodium Benzoate, Mica, Tin Oxide, Titanium Dioxide, Fragrance.*Vitamin B3, **Vitamin E, ***Pro-Vitamin B5, ^Amino-Peptide, ^^Green Tea, ^^^Aloe Vera

If this is the accurate list of ingredients, there is something further here to consider. The third item on this list is a petroleum distillate. Basic research reveals it is a refined isoparaffin (paraffin as in wax candles as in derived from petroleum.)


Isohexadecane

Isohexadecane is a mixture of highly branched C16 isoparaffins with a small proportion of C12 and C20 paraffins of similar structure.

The main use of Isohexadecane is in high quality cosmetic and personal care products, where very low toxicity and skin irritation, and a lack of colour and odour are essential properties. Isohexadecane forms particularly robust emulsions (creams), which is an important feature for the product formulator. To the consumer, the non-greasy silky feel that Isohexadecane products leave on the skin is particularly appreciated. Foundation creams, sun care creams, lip creams, deodorants and antiperspirant sticks, make up removers and hair conditioners are amongst the products that have been formulated with Isohexadecane. The known poison data for isoparaffin is located here:

http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemic...C33012#Toxicity

This substance may potentially be an endocrine disruptor, as are MOST petroleum based products or dstillates.

As for the parabens, here is research and factual data provided by a womens breast cancer reearch group:

http://www.breastcancerfund.org/site/pp.as...E&b=1203361

Without going into greater detail, it appears that this particular product contains not only a significant grouping of parabens but other synthetics and near the top of its list is a petroleum distillate, which may be highly concentrated owing to its purification data, and it is a potential endocrine disruptor. If you put this date together, without even researching the other synthetic elements in this product I think you will find your answers as to WHY it may be affecting you and that it, in fact, may indeed be accumulating in your tissues. Not as I suspected originally based on the niacinimidec content but perhaps in your estrogen receptors as was originally speculated. I think Olay needs to conduct a study utilizing 1500 40-70 year old women and run some baseline endocrines on them as well as standard baseline functions with CA marker tests and then place this group on a controlled daily useage of this product for 6 months and retest ALL at the conclusion of the trial.

The niacinimade is particularly hard to absorb through the skin without providing it a special transdermal vehicle. If the vitamin were heated to liquefy it would likely damage its effectiveness. Therefore, it seems reasonable to assume it may require the highly concentrate, purified isoparaffin to create that delivery system. What delivers the vitamins in this product will also deliver the parabens/potential endocrine disruptors equally effectively. If it is being stored in fatty tissues as an oil based product, it could certainly accumulate quickly and hold an effect over a period of time. I would like to see precisely what form of niacinamide is used and whether there is any evidence that it can be made bioavailable transdermally at all.

There are two critical factors to be examined within this product profile. The first is the vitamin profile which may or may not be equally effective or effective whatsoever at the skin level of women, based upon its purity and transdermal delivery factors and the second is accumulation data for the paraben/petroleum distillate profile...which is far more extensive than I had initially suspected. To summate; without better data it is impossible to indicate or indict these factors for exerting the influences described. Studying the ingredient data supplied, I do not believe the symptoms being described are psychosomatic.

For those ladies who reported a regular useage without the positive results reported, were you at that time on ANY hormone replacement including but not limited to creams, soy useage or isoflavone useage?

For those ladies who report excellent results beyond skin softening properties, are you using any form of hormone replacement including any natural forms as listed above?


THANK YOU!
[/quote

Oh goodness me-sooo technical! Would you like to contact Olay and advise them what tests they ought to be running?
Good luck with that!
janet c
frozentundra
I'd like to remind you ladies that I AM NOT THE ONE using this product. I did this research for YOUR sakes.

If you wish to contact Olay and suggest a study, you go right ahead. On the other hand, if you are using this product, consider looking into the data links provided. Keep in mind that none many of these isolates are extensively researched and the info provided bears that out. I am sure that if a number of you bombarded Olays customer service dept. you would get some form of response. You might get a better response if you targeted the FDA as well with your stats and concerns. But for those who are enjoying such happy results, why fix what ain't broken?

The warning others have given you here and the factual data I've provided, give users cause for concern. If this product creates results that it was NOT designed to provide in a large percentage of women, it deserves greater study! Not everything that glitters is truly gold.

However, your own results thus far are so divided that you will need some form of concencus to even approach them. This is why I asked two separate questions. One for those who had these excellent results and one for those who did not. These questions are not imerely nteresting but critical to ensure empirical evidence. If those of you who used the product and had no other results than softer skin were using an estrogen receptor product, this could be the difference. On the other hand, if Olay has found a way to take synthetic vitamins and make them bioavailable transdermally, with such results to back it up, they will have made a significant breakthrough indeed. However, for that breakthrough to be truly safe, they would need to remove the potential endocrine disruptors/xenoestrogens from the product.

Synthetic vitamins and minerals rarely - that is, virtually never, prove truly bioavailable nor provide such excellent results and none have credible research stats to support such claims. Therefore, I have to wonder if the combination of the niacinamde form used which can dilate blood vessels (open them up) with the transdermal delivery system provided is creating a virtual autobahn for the xenosestrogens in this product. I hope someone else can sum this up in a fashion that you all will easily grasp.
janet c


Actually no-one asked you to do the research for us but thanks anyway. smile.gif
A couple of us have already said we are not going to be the ones to contact Olay so if you want to pass on your detailed findings to them, that is your perogative.

There were already quite a lot of posts earlier in this huge thread about xenoestrogens and their safety and they were discussed in scientific detail at that point. Maybe you did not read them?

I am sure we are all capable of "grasping" the facts. I myself am perfectly capable of understanding all that you so kindly laid before us.
I think however the concensus is that the ladies who are being helped by the cream don't want to rock the boat by bringing it to Olay's attention. The other ladies who are worried about its estrogenic effects (if there are any) are keeping away from it.

janet c
janet c
Oh yes-just looked back and you participated in them.
janet c
antique
Frozentundra. all I can say is WOW. That research must have taken quite a time. I have just started using the cream two weeks ago and I'm still interested in any affects it might have on me and I'm not using any other hormone preparation at all. I wonder if they have stumbled on something? Regards Antique.
EveningPrimrose
QUOTE (frozentundra @ Mar 23 2009, 01:32 PM) *
I'd like to remind you ladies that I AM NOT THE ONE using this product. I did this research for YOUR sakes.



Frozentundra -

I think it' GREAT that you've taken the time to do this research. I'm sure most of the ladies appreciate it, including me - so thank you! smile.gif
janet c

Frozentundra has done sterling job but are any of us going to want to forward the info to Olay?

Any volunteers? laugh.gif

janet c
EVEWASFRAMED
QUOTE (iluvtolaff @ Mar 22 2009, 04:17 PM) *
Good Lord, don't do that! Then they'll plug it as the new menopause miracle treatment and jack up the price to double or triple!! ohmy.gif




I thought the exact same as you did!!! Oh Lordy!
EVEWASFRAMED
QUOTE (EveningPrimrose @ Mar 23 2009, 12:08 PM) *
Frozentundra -

I think it' GREAT that you've taken the time to do this research. I'm sure most of the ladies appreciate it, including me - so thank you! smile.gif



I'd like to thank Frozentundra too............................man, I would not have patience to do that!! (NOR TO GRASP IT ALL) ohmy.gif)~~
Again T-H-A-N-K-S!!
EVEWASFRAMED
QUOTE (janet c @ Mar 23 2009, 12:47 PM) *
Frozentundra has done sterling job but are any of us going to want to forward the info to Olay?

Any volunteers? laugh.gif

janet c

I'll freaking forward the info to Oil of Olay!! I don't have a problem with it...but I do have a concern about women using and relying on this product and lets say...2 yrs down the road, it's taken off the market and the women who use are now "addicted"......................than what?

Supply the contact info..and I'll send away (sorry, my patience is too thin to start searching for all info needed)

Hugs!
EVEWASFRAMED
Now for the true reason I came to PS tonite smile.gif~


I posted a few days ago about the oil of olay regenerist zapping my anxiety/chest tightness/pain within 20 mins of applying on my wrist! I used it for 3 days, no flashes, anxiety, slept like a baby. It was the best 3 days I've had in about 20 mths when all this meno sheet started!!! I did spot for 4 days, had ovary activity 2 days prior to the spotting and breast tenderness a few weeks ago (which I thought was odd) Last Friday I decided to see if it is me or the cream so I haven't applied any since last friday (mostly bec I am nervous of this product)...Saturday/sunday I felt like I wanted to cry off and on all day long..I also felt kinda angry. My hot flashes are back!!

Now----I am wondering if a few factors attributed to my spotting or is it truly the Oil of Olay!
All you ladies out there please enlighten me (because again, I haven't ANY patience to go in search of this info).

My breast tenderness started 3 weeks ago
Not sure if the day I noticed the ovary activity is the day I started the cream app
Noticed at least 2 weeks prior to applying the cream that my hot flashes were almost zilch (they use to be TERRIBLE)
The day (last Thursday) when I first saw the spotting was at a bone scan procedure (and wondered if it could have been the dye, as I am very sensitive to any meds) blood did look an odd color (reddish/brownish/orangey) but by sunday it was red........than brown (sorry if TMI)
Bewteen 48 hrs and 60 hrs after I stopped applying the cream was when the crying /angry feeling ceased
Since yesterday,sunday (2 days after my last app of cream) hot flashes are back with a VENGENCE!...anxiety level is just about as high as prior!!
Also--I've been having craniosacral massage therapy for an accident I was involved in last fall.....is it possible that could provoke a menstrual cycle?


Please-I beg of you--don't let it be my Regenerist (never to apply again...until...) ohmy.gif)~~

Awaiting patiently (and ya'll know I'm not with patience) smile.gif))

Thanks and many hugs!!
~Helen~


P.S. Sure hope all this makes sense!
janet c






Hi Helen
I only have time to reply to one aspect of your post that stands out to me (I am going out for the day). I must tell you that when I used phytoestrogens such as soy and a phytoestrogen cream called Emerita they both made me feel like I wanted to cry all the time. It took me ages to realise it was phytos that was causing the problem and since I have stopped them I have felt great!
If this cream is having an estrogenic effect it would be similar to phytos so maybe that could be causing the problem?
Having said that I am using the cream and have not noticed any bad effects from it.
Hope someone else will be along to help with your other questions

janet c
janet c
Hmmmm

At the risk of flogging this subject to death-I have had an interesting development.

I have been using this cream for a while now-nearly finished a pot.I had not been finding any changes in morning anxiety and hot flashes at all.

I had been messing around with various other potions. I was trying to get my body over its aversion to estriol (Had to give that up!) I then realised that phytoestrogens such as soy were making me tearful and my hot flushes worse. So I stopped them.

My morning anxiety would include horrendous palpitations and hot flushes. I assumed they would never stop.

So since last week when I applied my tiny occasional amount of testosterone (which also increases my hot flushes temporarily) I have not applied anything other than the Olay -on my face for my skin!
I have already posted that the cream did not seem to have any other effects for me.

However for the last few days I have awakened with a slight anxious feeling-it hasn't completely gone, and I have been lying there waiting for the inevitable flush-but nothing! Usually two cups of tea will set one off but again-nothing!
It could just be that after three years of surgical menopause my body is finally settling down, it could just be a co-incidence.

The only way I will know for sure is if I stop using the cream for a while and see what happens. However I am feeling so much better I am not going to do that! I have another two pots of the cream and of course I intend to use them.

Am I getting caught up in the mass hysteria or does this product actually do the trick? The jury is out !

janet c
EVEWASFRAMED
Just had to tell---

Yesterday, after "explaining" this cream to my 57 y/o girlfriend..she said "give me a dab to see what happens to this old 6 yr post gal". She applied the tiniest dab to her wrist at about 2pm...by 8pm last nite she's telling me " I have to tell you my dear that since applying that cream I've been "excited" as hell...unfortuantly for me" (she's single) smile.gif
Though, as of yet, I am far from wanting sex...is there hope smile.gif))



This cream gets scarier/more amazing by the day!

~Helen~
EVEWASFRAMED
QUOTE (EVEWASFRAMED @ Mar 25 2009, 09:12 AM) *
Just had to tell---

Yesterday, after "explaining" this cream to my 57 y/o girlfriend..she said "give me a dab to see what happens to this old 6 yr post gal". She applied the tiniest dab to her wrist at about 2pm...by 8pm last nite she's telling me " I have to tell you my dear that since applying that cream I've been "excited" as hell...unfortuantly for me" (she's single) smile.gif
Though, as of yet, I am far from wanting sex...is there hope smile.gif))



This cream gets scarier/more amazing by the day!

~Helen~



Dang-----No other woman experienced "excitement= horny" from this cream?
Guess it isn't the 'miracle" cream! SIGH! smile.gif
Sariah
For all you paraben-lovers out there--Just saw this cream in Costco--2 jars for $38. biggrin.gif
antique
I'm still sleeping like a baby since I started using this cream! SOMETHING is happening to my hot flushes too....it's slight but I'm aware of it. They aren't as full blown as before.MMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaybe...working a bit.
boohoo
after all of this reading, i am sooooo desperate, yet wouldn't putting olay on the wrist just rinse off, or, be sweated off of an body part? i'm definitely going to get it!
iluvtolaff
I finally bought it today! I bought Walgreen's brand knock-off and it has all the same ingredients and was $20. Now, to make sure I do this right---you but it on the inside of your wrists and elbows (both?) but WHEN do you do this? Before bed, in the morning, evening???
Please don't make me read through the whole thread again. sad.gif
Careergrl
Hi ILTL! I rub it into the insides of my elbows and wrists in the evening before bed. I also use it as a night cream on my face and neck.

Cheers!
CG
boohoo
i just got it today, yet, could i sweat if off tonite???
boohoo
i just got it today, yet, could i sweat if off tonite???
iluvtolaff
QUOTE (Careergrl @ Mar 27 2009, 06:24 PM) *
Hi ILTL! I rub it into the insides of my elbows and wrists in the evening before bed. I also use it as a night cream on my face and neck.

Cheers!
CG



Thank you CG! I tried it last night and don't remember having any hot flashes. Although I didn't sleep well-- but that was probably because of the worrying I was doing over a problem that came up that day. Problem solved, worrying over, so maybe I'll sleep better tonight.
antique
Hi Everyone!
For those of you in the UK...Boots are doing 3 for 2 on this product...YEHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Hugs Antique XX
janet c

Hi antique that's great!
I have been getting mine from Ebay-it is still cheaper. If you don't use Ebay then you have got yourself a great deal. You will probably get a £5 off coupon too if you have a club card so maybe I will have to have a look today! laugh.gif
janet c
antique
Hello Janet c,
Thanks for the tip about Ebay.............I wonder where it's all coming from..........? Love Antique XX
janet c

Shop lifting ? laugh.gif
Careergrl
Yeah...Shoplifting of Olay Products is a biggy!! No Joke. They have the products under lock and key in many stores. Or, the store manager may have only one of the products on display with a sign saying, ask for help if you want to purchase!

CG
Interactive
You know, this thread is the best advert for Olay Regenerist. I've never even thought about buying it but I was in the supermarket yesterday, saw it on the shelf and just bought a pot! And I've assiduously avoided everything containing parabens until now! I even changed my shower wash to one which doesn't contain parabens.

Coincidentally or not, I went away last weekend and in the washbag I keep packed only for going away, was a bottle of my old shower wash containing parabens. I haven't used this variety for ages (the Olay brand coincidentally). I'm more than a year post, but last weekend, when away, noticed my breasts had become slightly tender as they used to be in the run up to a period. When I got back and resumed using what is now my normal showerwash without parabens, the tenderness went. I wondered if this was an estrogenic effect from the parabens or just coincidence.

The thing is, I don't even have any menopausal symptoms any more except the very occasional hot flash so I'm not in need of a miracle cure that this product seems to have provided for some here. My illogical in-supermarket reasoning went that if others have noticed good effects, then maybe just using it will make me feel good - or at the very least, do what it says and reduce the appearance of lines and wrinkles and sagging! I can't believe that I've bought something containing xeno-estrogens.

Has anyone had good effects with this product for facial sagging and lines and wrinkles by the way, the things that it's intended to improve?
janet c

Well I have used a whole pot and I can't really see any improvement. However I have two more pots to get through yet so the jury is still out! My skin feels lovely after using it anyway.
It's nice to pamper yourself so enjoy using it smile.gif

janet c
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