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KrissyK
Ladies,

About a year ago I attended a meeting for people who suffered with GERD (Gastric Esophageal Reflux Disorder). I along with many others in the group were unable to find a medication that relieved our symptoms as Pepsid, Prilosec and the other namebrand crap simply did not work. One woman told me of a solution that she had read about online that mixed Apple Cider Vinegar and natural honey together that "cured" reflux. Well, I thought she was nuts at first and stated that there is NO WAY I was drinking vinegar! Eventually though the reflux got the better of me and I decided to take the plunge. I put two tblsps of Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar (Braggs is supposed to be the best) in 6 oz of hot water and mixed in a tblsp of honey. Held my nose and tossed it back. At first I thought I had simply swallowed a blow-torch as it burnt just that badly but then gradually and for the first time in 6 months by GERD had all but disappeard. Well I was drinking that stuff twice a day and it helped with my GERD immensely. Now...the reason I am explaining all of this is that I found the website "again" today that I was referred to originally to get this concoction, and they were talking how this also helped with weight loss.

Personally, I didn't see any weight loss for myself but I was not trying either. I was more interested in getting rid of the GERD, but the people on this website swear by it. Stating that it really helps stimulate your system into dropping the pounds.

Has anyone heard of this for weight loss? I know it helped me with my GERD and I will never take an over-the-counter or prescribed medication for this problem again as it cured me with one dose, but I'm curious about the weight loss part of it. Quite honestly and here lately I've spent more money on diet programs than anything else. I've done Nutri-System, The 6-week Body Make-Over and The Mediterranean Diet. I could not stick with any of them for any length of time mostly due to the long amount of time it took to fix the meals. Has anyone heard of this vinegar helping with weight loss thing? I'm almost tempted to try it again although choking down that vinegar was about the hardest thing I've ever done. Wolf!... unsure.gif
TaraLindsay
Hi Krissy

My friend Lisa and I tried Apple Cider Vinegar pills for weight loss and they did not work. However Lisa found that they cured her chronic constipation and swears by them if you're constipated. Another friend found that if she drank the vinegar it also cleaned out her system as well as cleared up her acne. I'm glad to hear that you have you're GERD under control. It's amazing what a little apple cider vinegar can do. I haven't tried drinking it yet but perhaps I should. Keep us posted on your results.

Take care
Tara
gyzwyf83
my experience with ACV was pretty good, up until about two weeks into it... i drank it everyday for indigestion among other things, which helped tremendously, i will admit. however, i noticed that i started getting these horrid headaches, to the point of vomiting. finally, after three days of this, i decided i'd quit the ACV and what do you know... no more headache! found out later from the lady at the health food store where i got it, it is a detoxifier and i'd probably just had too much for my system.

i hated giving it up as it helped me feel so much more energetic, which is why i kept drinking it every morning, but those headaches just got the best of me!


CarolH
Krissy,

The reason ACV works for GERD is because unlike what most people expect, GERD is because of low acidity in the digestive tract so anything acidic will work. My hubby drinks pickle juice for his.

I have tried the ACV several times for weight loss but didn't see any real difference. I think maybe the conscienceness of drinking the ACV makes us more aware to watch what we eat but I don't think it does anything miracleous. My husband's grandmother swore by the anti-aging benefits of ACV though. She would drink 1 T in an 8oz glass of water a day.. She lived to the age of 94 without any medications at all. Of course she had many other healthy habits as well so whose to say...

Bigheart
I drank Braggs apple cider vinegar and loved it. My husband has asthma and he tried it and did not have to use his inhaler while he was on it. Also, I noticed a decrease in appetite, more energy and I thought I looked better. The reason I stopped drinking it was because I never can seem to stick with anything. As long as the vinegar was there we would take a few tablespoons of it mixed with honey in hot water, but as soon as we ran out I never bought anymore. I guess for me it was "out of sight, out of mind."

Bigheart
EveningPrimrose
There is another thread here that you might be interested in reading, Krissy.


http://www.power-surge.com/php/forums/inde...r+vinegar\
larafalcon
QUOTE (KrissyK @ Jan 14 2009, 09:57 PM) *
Has anyone heard of this for weight loss? I know it helped me with my GERD and I will never take an over-the-counter or prescribed medication for this problem again as it cured me with one dose, but I'm curious about the weight loss part of it. Quite honestly and here lately I've spent more money on diet programs than anything else. I've done Nutri-System, The 6-week Body Make-Over and The Mediterranean Diet. I could not stick with any of them for any length of time mostly due to the long amount of time it took to fix the meals. Has anyone heard of this vinegar helping with weight loss thing? I'm almost tempted to try it again although choking down that vinegar was about the hardest thing I've ever done. Wolf!... unsure.gif


Hi Krissy:

I can totally attest to the fact that it helps with weight loss - big time-- I tried it as an experiment- and it worked - I lost about 10 lbs in 2 months - Of course you should not be eating fattening or fried food every day - but you don't have to be on a diet while you are taking this - you do have to do it regularly for at least 2 weeks for you to notice results - but it definitely does work - and you can break it up - take 2 tbs in water in the morning and then 2 in the evening. The secret is consistency.

good luck

lara falcon
gyzwyf83
a couple of suggestions you might try for digestive problems - they've helped me and hub, anyway:

aloe vera juice - very healing to the digestive tract (found at health food stores)
clementine tangerines

TidalWaves
I used the ACV cocktail for a very long time. I quit only because I got tired of it. Can't say whether it helped with weight loss or not.

I have horrid acid reflux and it feels like gravel going down when I swallow some foods. I have tenderness to the touch, just below my ribs, right in the very center.

I read about the Aloe Vera Juice, so I'm giving that a try.

I sure hope it works.

Iradan
QUOTE (KrissyK @ Jan 14 2009, 08:57 PM) *
Ladies,

About a year ago I attended a meeting for people who suffered with GERD (Gastric Esophageal Reflux Disorder). I along with many others in the group were unable to find a medication that relieved our symptoms as Pepsid, Prilosec and the other namebrand crap simply did not work. One woman told me of a solution that she had read about online that mixed Apple Cider Vinegar and natural honey together that "cured" reflux. Well, I thought she was nuts at first and stated that there is NO WAY I was drinking vinegar! Eventually though the reflux got the better of me and I decided to take the plunge. I put two tblsps of Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar (Braggs is supposed to be the best) in 6 oz of hot water and mixed in a tblsp of honey. Held my nose and tossed it back. At first I thought I had simply swallowed a blow-torch as it burnt just that badly but then gradually and for the first time in 6 months by GERD had all but disappeard. Well I was drinking that stuff twice a day and it helped with my GERD immensely. Now...the reason I am explaining all of this is that I found the website "again" today that I was referred to originally to get this concoction, and they were talking how this also helped with weight loss.

Personally, I didn't see any weight loss for myself but I was not trying either. I was more interested in getting rid of the GERD, but the people on this website swear by it. Stating that it really helps stimulate your system into dropping the pounds.

Has anyone heard of this for weight loss? I know it helped me with my GERD and I will never take an over-the-counter or prescribed medication for this problem again as it cured me with one dose, but I'm curious about the weight loss part of it. Quite honestly and here lately I've spent more money on diet programs than anything else. I've done Nutri-System, The 6-week Body Make-Over and The Mediterranean Diet. I could not stick with any of them for any length of time mostly due to the long amount of time it took to fix the meals. Has anyone heard of this vinegar helping with weight loss thing? I'm almost tempted to try it again although choking down that vinegar was about the hardest thing I've ever done. Wolf!... unsure.gif

Krissy,
ANY VINEGAR will help with weight loss, not only ACV. The acetic acid inhibits the enzyme that break down carbohydrates , so you won't digest them. I have T2 diabetes, and IF and WHEN I allow myself bread or pasta, I make sure dip into vinegar or eat with green salad with lots of vinegar and olive oil. I also use lots of lemon juice, as any acid hurds carbohydrates digestion. I like lemon juice and hot water in the morning for the same purpose.

It may help with weight loss for the exactly same reason, it blocks amylase so your body won't absorb carbs from food.

However, while it can help with GERD ( if you have low stomach acidity naturally so acetic acid will help), a friend of mine developed ulcer from taking too much on empty stomach, but she lost weight. After all, acid is acid, too much of a good think may cause problems.

If you have imbared glucose metabolism, vinegar is a good remedy to keep PP glucose low, it works like a charm.
Less sugar in blood stream=less insulin=weight loss. I like pickles and lemon/lime juice, and get my fair share of vinegar daily. I use mostly red wine vinegar for salad dressings and sometimes ACV, dependign what I make, to keep my blood sugar stable, but when I was in active phase of GERD, it made met worse.
Diabetes is notorious to cause GERD, due to slower stomach emptying and systemic inflammation, higher insulin triggers extra acid release; but mine also wax and wanes from the hormonal swings.

I think it does not hurt to try, I never was able to adhere to the strict ACV regimen myself, as it has to be taken 3 x daily. But I do drink hot water with lemon juice first thing in the morning.

Remember Hamlet: drink vinegar..... they knew it will make you lose weight and make your face pale too, LOL, back then they knew it, noble ladies drank vinegar to maintain slim waste and keep their figures.

My mom used to tell me, don't put vinegar on your salad, your completion will be dull and pale. She was almost always right about old folks remedies, who knows.

But I do now, this allows me to eat some starches without paying dearly after a meal with high blood sugar, however, I always add some olive oil to my vinegar, so much for weight loss. wink.gif
HTH,
I.
Iradan
For those interested, this article sheds some light

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The intriguing metabolic impact of acetic acid, derived from vinegar, was first characterised in this column in July 2005. Since then, a number of scientific revelations have addressed inferences made from the earlier studies.

In a study among persons with type 2 diabetes, nondiabetic insulin resistant (NDIR), and 'normal' subjects, an artificially sweetened solution containing apple cider vinegar (20g) consumed prior to a meal produced significant improvements in post-meal blood glucose and insulin dynamics, yet only among the NDIR subjects.1 A notable, clinically significant improvement was observed among the diabetic subjects but did not achieve statistical significance.

This same group presented a study earlier this year where chronic (eight weeks of daily use) ingestion of vinegar (red raspberry; 30ml, thrice daily) was compared to a placebo drink (pure unsweetened cranberry juice; 22ml, thrice daily) among a sample of overweight to obese subjects.2 Based upon their previously unpublished findings of weight loss (approximately 1kg) among persons drinking a red raspberry vinegar (RRV) beverage daily for four weeks, compared to pure cranberry juice (CJ),3 this group sought to assess the impact upon body composition, blood lipids and whole body insulin sensitivity.2

Of the 27 subjects who were initially randomised to receive either beverage, only four and five subjects, in the RRV and CJ groups, respectively, completed the two-month intervention period. From this small sample size, no differences were noted between groups.

The findings of this group suggest that compliance with ingesting a high-dose vinegar beverage is challenging, even when it is derived from a fruit vinegar, and that weight/fat loss remains to be confirmed.

However, other studies examining the effect of vinegar ingestion underscore the promise of its influence on carbohydrate metabolism. The Swedish research group that has made seminal contributions on this topic found that co-ingestion of vinegar with white bread produced a decrement in blood insulin and glucose excursions.4

A sample of 12 young, nonoverweight, nonsmoking subjects was given four different test meals centred around a serving of white-wheat bread (50g of available carbohydrate), soaked in a serving of 18, 23 or 28g white vinegar, or the bread alone. Blood glucose and insulin, and self-scored satiety responses, were measured during the two hours following each test meal. Overall, dose-dependent reductions in glucose and insulin excursions were noted, complemented by dose-dependent increases in self-reported satiety.

Because of the lowering of the glucose and insulin response, these data suggest that vinegar/acetic acid slows down the rate of emptying from the stomach and/or decreases the rate of carbohydrate digestion. Similar findings were noted in a study with 11 young, nonoverweight subjects who followed the aforementioned protocol described in reference one.5 However, in this latter study, self-recorded food intake records for the remainder of the day (following the test meal) did not differ significantly from the meal without the vinegar beverage.

Acetic foods? These studies highlight the challenge of exploiting these data: how to create an ingestible consumer product that delivers a metabolically effective payload of acetic acid/vinegar and exhibits a high hedonic score to foster enduring compliance?

Numerous traditional foods and condiments have acetic acid as a core constituent, such as Japanese sunomono (vinegar-treated vegetables), sumeshi (vinegar-treated rice for sushi), potato salad (whose glycaemic blunting effects may be magnified by cold storing the potatoes/salad before consumption, for at least 24 hours),6 mustard, fish and chips, plus the traditional condiment of malt vinegar, and any vinegar-based dressing.

In certain Asian countries like Taiwan and Japan, fruit vinegars have emerged as a health beverage. Short-term ingestion studies with vinegar beverages suggest they are safe,7 but enduring, consumer-relevant efficacy remains to be explored.


http://www.functionalingredientsmag.com/fi...strSite=FFNSite

I don't think ACV has any special qualities in comparison to any vinegar, it has probably higher acetic acid content than wine vinegar. The hype behind Bragg's ACV is nothing but advertisement, any vinegar will do IMO. Normally ACV should be taken with a bit of baking soda, to avoid stomach irritation and worsening of the existing condition.
Honey is another well known stomach healer, and also aloe vera juice, I had more success with aloe vera back in my GERD days than with ACV, but YMMV.
SKEEWEEAKA
QUOTE (Iradan @ Jan 15 2009, 03:14 PM) *
For those interested, this article sheds some light



http://www.functionalingredientsmag.com/fi...strSite=FFNSite

I don't think ACV has any special qualities in comparison to any vinegar, it has probably higher acetic acid content than wine vinegar. The hype behind Bragg's ACV is nothing but advertisement, any vinegar will do IMO. Normally ACV should be taken with a bit of baking soda, to avoid stomach irritation and worsening of the existing condition.
Honey is another well known stomach healer, and also aloe vera juice, I had more success with aloe vera back in my GERD days than with ACV, but YMMV.


I agree to take it in warm water with baking soda... It helps me with my menstrual cycle and cramping and clotting...it thins the blood... It helps with my appetite because it helps to control insuliin level in some of us... It gives me a bit more energy. I've read that it helps with cholesterol and my cousin used it to reduce his blood pressure and reduce his weight. He, however, mixed it with lemon juice. and honey, a remedy he found in a natural healing book...

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