Pam5
Dec 15 2008, 01:01 PM
Well, the results of the vaginal ultrasound should at 10 for the uterine wall thickness, and 5 is the cutoff for not doing anything further. She she a lot of women have 20 when they're mensturating, which is what this may be for me, too. But, since she till couldn't "get in" to do the biopsy, I'm scheduled for a D&C Tuesday morning (two days before Christmas).
I asked her, "I know you probably don't know yet, but do you think it's cancer?" She said, "No, I don't. It could be your hormones going crazy causing a period, a polyp, or hyperplasia." She seemed pretty confident, but maybe she was just trying to make me feel better, who knows.
Since I'm still bleeding after two weeks, she gave me some progesterone to stop that.
On, well, I didn't want it to come to this---more waiting, more testing.
Pam
kar4242
Dec 15 2008, 01:03 PM
Best of luck to you Pam. I will keep you in my prayers. Please keep us posted.
Hugs,
Karen
Snowmoon56
Dec 15 2008, 05:58 PM
Pam I had a D&C last Nov for heavy bleeding plus hyperplasia. I kept putting it off until I ended up in the ER one night> glad I had it done since I also had a large a polyp, which he was able to remove.
It really settle things down!
Pam5
Dec 17 2008, 12:31 AM
QUOTE (Snowmoon56 @ Dec 15 2008, 04:58 PM)

Pam I had a D&C last Nov for heavy bleeding plus hyperplasia. I kept putting it off until I ended up in the ER one night> glad I had it done since I also had a large a polyp, which he was able to remove.
It really settle things down!
Snowmoon56, are you post-menopausal? I couldn't believe it when she said the lining was a 10, but then she was quick to tell me that didn't necessarily been something bad. Part of the time I'm fine, and then I start to feel myself starting to panic. How long did it take for you to get the D&C results? Being right before Christmas, mine will probably take longer than usual, unfortunately.
Snowmoon56
Dec 17 2008, 12:52 AM
Well I'm working on going post> I think?
Last Aug was my last reg period, last month some very light bleeding.
I'm almost 52 so the end shall be near.
Seems all I have heard & read toward the last of peri all this kicks up.
It takes about 7-10 days to get results, bad timing for you to have to worry about all this with the Holidays.
Please try not too, the D& C was a breeze!
Pam5
Dec 17 2008, 03:21 PM
Can they do a D&C when you're still bleeding? I thought so, but then when I asked the nurse just now if they could do it if I was still bleeding a little, she said yes, but sounded hesitant. Then I asked if I should call if the bleeding picked up again, and she said definitely, and they'd try something else before the surgery to try to get it to stop. (I'm on third day of progesterone to stop it, and so far it's reduced it quite a bit, with pink to red tinges on the paper.)
I found out at the pre-op this morning that she's also doing a hysteroscopy along with D&C, and I know the hysteroscopy works better without bleeding. Maybe that's why she sounded that way.
Any thoughts??
Pam
suzpaterson
Dec 17 2008, 03:50 PM
Best of luck to you Pam5. Sounds like you have a very thorough doctor and you should trust in her judgment. She wouldn't give you false hope...
Try and tap into the meaning of the season. Merry Christmas.
Worrying doesn't empty tomorrow of its troubles; it empties today of its strength. Worrying too will not change the outcome either...what will be will be - I don't think you need to worry that you have cancer too much if your doctor said what she did to you.
Peace,
Suzanne
Pam5
Dec 20 2008, 09:05 PM
QUOTE (suzpaterson @ Dec 17 2008, 02:50 PM)

Best of luck to you Pam5. Sounds like you have a very thorough doctor and you should trust in her judgment. She wouldn't give you false hope...
Try and tap into the meaning of the season. Merry Christmas.
Worrying doesn't empty tomorrow of its troubles; it empties today of its strength. Worrying too will not change the outcome either...what will be will be - I don't think you need to worry that you have cancer too much if your doctor said what she did to you.
Peace,
Suzanne
Thanks, Suzanne. I love that line, "Worrying doesn't empty tomorrow of its troubles; it empties today of its strength." That is SO true, and I am living proof of that. I've spent more than half my life worrying about things, I think, and at 50, that's a lot of time worrying!! People used to say about my dad that he was such a worrier that if he couldn't find anything to worry about, that he would worry about that!! LOL
I was so happy that the progesterone had stopped the bleeding, but I went down to a lower dose yesterday (per doc instructions) and started spotting again today. Doc said that it was normal for that to happen when changing dosages, but if he got real heavy again, I could go back up if I wanted to. My D&C and hysterscopy are early Tuesday morning.
Thanks for your support and encouragement----
Merry Christmas!!
Pam
mochombo
Dec 21 2008, 06:00 PM
Pam-I had bleeding-endless bleeding!-finally I had a D&C in June and I have been sooooo much better-I had a few really light periods and now nothing for 3 months-I still have all the other lovely symptoms taking their turn at me but the not the bleeding-the procedure was a piece of cake and I am very glad I did it-I am the type that really doesn't like procedures and will tough out almost anything to avoid one but this had to be done and did wonders for me-I wish you the same luck-keep me posted and have a merry Christmas Mocho
joyceveronica
Dec 22 2008, 02:10 PM
QUOTE (Pam5 @ Dec 18 2008, 12:21 AM)

Can they do a D&C when you're still bleeding? I thought so, but then when I asked the nurse just now if they could do it if I was still bleeding a little, she said yes, but sounded hesitant. Then I asked if I should call if the bleeding picked up again, and she said definitely, and they'd try something else before the surgery to try to get it to stop. (I'm on third day of progesterone to stop it, and so far it's reduced it quite a bit, with pink to red tinges on the paper.)
I found out at the pre-op this morning that she's also doing a hysteroscopy along with D&C, and I know the hysteroscopy works better without bleeding. Maybe that's why she sounded that way.
Any thoughts??
Pam
Dear 'Pam'
Best of luck and hope that all goes well for you.Have been a bleeder and a spotter for a while now and have had most procedures done while still bleeding.It did not seem to matter.
Anyway,my results were negative as I know yours will be too.
Let us know how you go on
All the very Best
Elizabeth
Pam5
Dec 26 2008, 02:28 PM
Hi, everyone! I did make it, and at this point the only problem I'm having is a major flare-up of my IBS. A lot of bleeding when I went to the bathroom at the hospital, but minor spotting since then. Also some burning when going to the bathroom, but that subsided completely in 24 hours. I did have awful nausea for about four hours after, even with anti-nausea stuff in the IV and a nausea patch. I guess I'm just super susceptible to that.
She won't have the pathology results until next week. Doc told my husband, "Everything looks good, but I'll call with the pathology results after the holidays." So, that's encouraging. My post-op visit isn't even scheduled yet. Her notes said to call for an appointment in three months, and she's putting me on Provera for the first 10 days of each month for February, March, and April.
Really wish I could get rid of this IBS stuff, though. It started about the time I started bleeding (it always acted up when I had a period), but has been really bad yesterday and today.
I hope everyone has a wonderful Christmas!
Thank you !!!
Pam
Pam5
Dec 30 2008, 06:38 PM
EVERYTHING IS NORMAL, PRAISE GOD!!
My doc is out of the office until Friday, but when I called asking about the pathology report, the nurse said it was in and she would get another doctor in the office to look at it, and she'd call me back. That doc said everything was normal, no cancer. I have an appointment Friday with her to check on the continued bleeding and cramping.
Thank you for your support and concern everyone.

Pam
chaotichar
Dec 30 2008, 08:52 PM
Pam
That is great news! Now you can enjoy the new year.. Have fun and be safe.
Char
folderqueen
Dec 30 2008, 10:06 PM
QUOTE (Pam5 @ Dec 30 2008, 04:38 PM)

EVERYTHING IS NORMAL, PRAISE GOD!!
My doc is out of the office until Friday, but when I called asking about the pathology report, the nurse said it was in and she would get another doctor in the office to look at it, and she'd call me back. That doc said everything was normal, no cancer. I have an appointment Friday with her to check on the continued bleeding and cramping.
Thank you for your support and concern everyone.

Pam
Yes, that is great news. I hope mine is just as good. I had a D and C on Dec. 19. My bloodwork shows that I am postmenopausal, but still having periods although erratic...hadn't had one in 4 months, then had one 20 days later, then 30 days later. My dr. said I shouldn't be having periods since I'm postmenopausal and we have to assume it's cancer until it is ruled out. My post op appt. is on Jan. 8 so hopefully I will find out then. Came through the D and C fine and had no pain at all. Unfortunately on Christmas eve I came down with a fever and what I am assuming was the stomach flu for 4 days. Could barely get out of the bed for Christmas. I am so glad that you got good news on yours.
Jana
joyceveronica
Dec 31 2008, 07:07 AM
QUOTE (Pam5 @ Dec 31 2008, 02:38 AM)

EVERYTHING IS NORMAL, PRAISE GOD!!
My doc is out of the office until Friday, but when I called asking about the pathology report, the nurse said it was in and she would get another doctor in the office to look at it, and she'd call me back. That doc said everything was normal, no cancer. I have an appointment Friday with her to check on the continued bleeding and cramping.
Thank you for your support and concern everyone.

Pam
Dear Pam
Thank God for the great news.I feel so happy for you and your family too.
Now go out for a great celebration dinner.
Warm Wishes
Elizabeth
joyceveronica
Dec 31 2008, 07:12 AM
QUOTE (folderqueen @ Dec 31 2008, 06:06 AM)

Yes, that is great news. I hope mine is just as good. I had a D and C on Dec. 19. My bloodwork shows that I am postmenopausal, but still having periods although erratic...hadn't had one in 4 months, then had one 20 days later, then 30 days later. My dr. said I shouldn't be having periods since I'm postmenopausal and we have to assume it's cancer until it is ruled out. My post op appt. is on Jan. 8 so hopefully I will find out then. Came through the D and C fine and had no pain at all. Unfortunately on Christmas eve I came down with a fever and what I am assuming was the stomach flu for 4 days. Could barely get out of the bed for Christmas. I am so glad that you got good news on yours.
Jana
Dear Jana
I also hope for a positive outcome for you too.I am very optimistic for having been a bleeder and spotter for a long time all Tests have returned negative.
Personally,I think it is very wrong of the Doctor to assume Cancer as there could be many other explanations such as fibroids,polyps and cysts.To name but a few
Am very sorry you were ill at Christmas.
You are in my Prayer list so please keep us posted!
Warm Wishes
Elizabeth
Pam5
Dec 31 2008, 03:09 PM
QUOTE (folderqueen @ Dec 30 2008, 09:06 PM)

Yes, that is great news. I hope mine is just as good. I had a D and C on Dec. 19. My bloodwork shows that I am postmenopausal, but still having periods although erratic...hadn't had one in 4 months, then had one 20 days later, then 30 days later. My dr. said I shouldn't be having periods since I'm postmenopausal and we have to assume it's cancer until it is ruled out. My post op appt. is on Jan. 8 so hopefully I will find out then. Came through the D and C fine and had no pain at all. Unfortunately on Christmas eve I came down with a fever and what I am assuming was the stomach flu for 4 days. Could barely get out of the bed for Christmas. I am so glad that you got good news on yours.
Jana
Thanks Jana!
Jana, you shouldn't assume cancer (even though my mind was going that way for me!) because there's a lot bigger chance it's something minor. (I know from experience, though, it's easier to say that when it's not yourself you're talking about!) Your doc's right, we should be having bleeding after menopause, BUT it doesn't automatically mean cancer. I'm saying you shouldn't assume it is until it's proven it is. If I were you, I'd call the office and ask about the pathology report from your D&C; that's what I did. Just because your post-op appointment isn't until 1/8, doesn't mean the report won't be back until then. It's awful to make us wait on stuff like this.
Pam
Pam5
Dec 31 2008, 03:11 PM
In my last post, I meant to say, "we SHOULDN'T be having bleeding after menopause." Wish there was an "edit" button here. I read it twice before posting, and still didn't see this obvious typo!!
Pam
Pam5
Dec 31 2008, 03:20 PM
Elizabeth and Char, thanks so much! It will be a good New Year!
I found out my sister-in-law in another state, and her good friend are going through the same thing. Neither one of them has cancer, but hey can't seem to get the bleeding to stop all the way. That's my next step, to get it to stop. Everything I told her, she was saying, "Yep, yep, yep." LOL My 39-year-old niece is having the same bleeding issue, only obviously she's not post.
I started bleeding 29 days ago (8 of those very, very spotty, two not at all when on high dose Provera, and now back and forth---a few hours nothing much, then a few hours like a semi-heavy period, then back to almost nothing).
Pam
Sandra47
Jan 1 2009, 12:58 PM
Pam,
I am glad you have received the good news.
Jana,
I too am surprise that your doctor would tell you to assume cancer.
To all, this thread is comforting (accept Jana's doc) , I am 54 and have not had a period for 2 years, I started experienceing ovulation symptoms (no vaginal dryness, pain in ovary and bad acne), and then this week I started a period. I too am a worrier, I called my GP who said get to a Gyno right away. I asked him does he think it is serious, he said the probability is that is not, but it could be, so get checked out. Please keep me in your prayers. I am scared.
joyceveronica
Jan 3 2009, 11:20 AM
QUOTE (Sandra47 @ Jan 1 2009, 09:58 PM)

Pam,
I am glad you have received the good news.
Jana,
I too am surprise that your doctor would tell you to assume cancer.
To all, this thread is comforting (accept Jana's doc) , I am 54 and have not had a period for 2 years, I started experienceing ovulation symptoms (no vaginal dryness, pain in ovary and bad acne), and then this week I started a period. I too am a worrier, I called my GP who said get to a Gyno right away. I asked him does he think it is serious, he said the probability is that is not, but it could be, so get checked out. Please keep me in your prayers. I am scared.
Dear'Sandra47'
I know you are scared, honey.That is exactly how I felt with this never ending spotting but really for some reason I never suspected cancer.Call me foolish but am a very optimistic person and having read Posts from many Post Menopausal ladies on extra curricular bleding and spotting,which Thank God turned out to be negative have come to the conclusion that Hormones have a way of surging every so often.Sometimes,there might be a cyst or a small fibroid,both of which can be easily taken care of.
Of course you are wise and right to have your check up and you are in my .Prayers
I hope all will be well
Please let us know
Warm Wishes
And lots of Luck,my friend
Elizabeth
Pam5
Jan 4 2009, 08:22 PM
Sandra, I know it's scary, believe me! But take heart that it's a very small percentage that turn out to be cancer. So many of us (me included!) always think the worst, even if it's only a very small chance.
Friday I had an appointment with my gynecologist because I was STILL bleeding, although it had dropped to just spotting. I started spotting on 12/2. On 1/2, I was still spotting. I spotted four days, then bled for over a week, was put on Provera, which stopped the bleeding for three days. Started bleeding again when Provera dose was reduced. Spotted lightly for four days after D&C/hysteroscopy, and THEN started bleeding again! Bled for the next four days, and then dropped to spotting last Wednesday. I still have a spot now and again. And for a couple of those weeks, I had AWFUL cramps, going into my back and down my right thigh. I had a few episodes of heavy bleeding, but they only lasted maybe 15 minutes here and there.
I found out last week that--thank God--no cancer, but at my appointment I talked to her more. No cancer, no hyperplasia---nothing. I asked her well, what's causing this bleeding then? She shrugged her shoulders, kinda smiled, and said she didn't know, that I must have ovulated in there somewhere, built the lining up, and then started bleeding. I asked her if there was any problem if I still spotted some for a while, or even started bleeding a little. And she said no. She's putting me on Provera for the first ten days of February, March, and April, and then I see her again. I think that's to make sure if a lining starts to build again, that it doesn't get thick like before. I also know that being overweight can contribute to excess estrogen, and I'm about 60 pounds overweight. So, I'm going to do something about that as well. (Was 70, but lost 10 already.)
So here's one more story of someone who had post-menopausal bleeding that was NOT cancer. And in my case, not even hyperplasia, or fibroids, or polyps. Just too much estrogen, and/or another very late period. Oh, when she was talking about something else she said, "...while you're in perimenopause, menopause---or whatever you're in now!" So, guess I don't exactly know where I stand in that area now!
Please keep us posted, Sandra47.
Pam
Sandra47
Jan 10 2009, 04:42 PM
Thank you Pam for the update. The doctor told me to call on Friday for results, I have to admit, I was scared to call, I told myself I will call Monday. I am feeling fine, my hormones seem to have settled down, my skin is clearing, but the thought of sitting on the phone waiting for the nurse to come back to read the results is scarey. I would have prefered to have the results emailed ( I think) Please say a prayer for me that I will be brave enough on Monday to call, and that I too will get good news.
folderqueen
Jan 10 2009, 04:57 PM
I had my post D and C appointment Thursday, and I too was very nervous. The dr. said that pathology report showed no dysplasia in the cervix or uterus and no cancer, but he called the uterus overstimulated. I asked what caused that and he said hormonal changes. He said we have to treat it, because if you don't the chances are good that it will develop into precancerous cells. He is having me take Provera once a day for 3 months and then we are going to redo the biopsy. Hopefully it can be done in the dr's office this time instead of a D and C. I was talking to him about the changes that I've noticed going through this change, especially the depression and lowered libido which has been the most troublesome for me the last 6 months or so. He said that menopause doesn't cause these, that I probably had symptoms of depression all along, but this is just making it worse. I am determined to handle it myself without resorting to medication, but if it gets bad enough, I will use it. He says most of my problems would improve if I would get more sleep at night. During the week, I rarely get more than 5 hours of sleep, so I am going to try my best to go to bed earlier and try to get more rest and see if that helps. I hope everyone is having a great weekend.
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