EveningPrimrose
Dec 2 2008, 01:45 PM
My dear husband has just been fired from his job. He was on a 3 month contract which started at the beginning of October -- He is a hard working guy and has excellent reviews in past employments. I I mentioned that he hasn't got a contract of employment and he wrote to his boss reminding him of this. His boss then wrote to HR asking them to sort it out. He went to the US for 3 weeks for training - we have no idea why this happened. He travels 2 hours there and back to work -- they have waited until 5pm, the end of a working day do this. He was on a probationary period. I am so upset for my husband. he's the most lovely guy and so hard working --- Sorry if this post doen;t make much sense. I'm in a state.
Lady E
Dec 2 2008, 01:50 PM
QUOTE (EveningPrimrose @ Dec 2 2008, 01:45 PM)

My dear husband has just been fired from his job. He was on a 3 month contract which started at the beginning of October -- He is a hard working guy and has excellent reviews in past employments. I I mentioned that he hasn't got a contract of employment and he wrote to his boss reminding him of this. His boss then wrote to HR asking them to sort it out. He went to the US for 3 weeks for training - we have no idea why this happened. He travels 2 hours there and back to work -- they have waited until 5pm, the end of a working day do this. He was on a probationary period. I am so upset for my husband. he's the most lovely guy and so hard working --- Sorry if this post doen;t make much sense. I'm in a state.
So sorry evening primrose,of course you are in a state!Do you work?I will be praying for you both.Losing a job is always so hard-it is like a death in the family.Just try to calm down and look at things carefully-maybe this will turn out good in the end.GOD-bless
TidalWaves
Dec 2 2008, 02:02 PM
QUOTE (EveningPrimrose @ Dec 2 2008, 11:45 AM)

My dear husband has just been fired from his job. He was on a 3 month contract which started at the beginning of October -- He is a hard working guy and has excellent reviews in past employments. I I mentioned that he hasn't got a contract of employment and he wrote to his boss reminding him of this. His boss then wrote to HR asking them to sort it out. He went to the US for 3 weeks for training - we have no idea why this happened. He travels 2 hours there and back to work -- they have waited until 5pm, the end of a working day do this. He was on a probationary period. I am so upset for my husband. he's the most lovely guy and so hard working --- Sorry if this post doen;t make much sense. I'm in a state.
OH EP!! I am so very sorry you and your family are going through this! I know you must be devastated!
I will keep you in my thoughts and in my prayers that everything works out for the very best and that your husband will get the job that he wants and needs.
Please hang in there.
Love and hugs,
bev
suzpaterson
Dec 2 2008, 02:08 PM
(((EP))) - I am very sorry to hear this news. I agree that you should look at this very carefully. Can you sue them for wrongfull dismissal? Sounds very odd considering the amount of training they put into his work. You will be in my thoughts and prayers EP.
Sincerely,
Suzanne
leanne0721
Dec 2 2008, 02:13 PM
((((((((Gez))))))))) I know it's hard to get your head around it, but often times when one door closes another one opens!! You hang on, kiddo!! Your family are in my prayers!
XOXOXOXOXOXOX
epdp2
Dec 2 2008, 02:13 PM
((((((ep))))))
how horrible! i was thinking about you all this morning - wondering how you were doing & hoping since i hadn't seen too many postings that perhaps all was going well. so i was so sorry to come across this news.
once the emotional impact of this lessens a bit, i hope that you both will be able to review it all & figure out what to do next. it sounds very odd given the info that you provided.
for now, i am sending you hugs & prayers & the sincerest of wishes that things will work out.
love,
ellen
alice3
Dec 2 2008, 02:17 PM
So sorry to hear your news. My husband's ex employer did the same to him after he had a heart attack and was just coming up to 2 years with them (then they don't have to pay out). We thought they were bringing back his company car. My hubbie says it was the best thing that ever happened to him. I pray that this will be the same for your husband.
Yes it is such a shock and it affected my nerves quite badly. Do take care of yourself too!
xx
witsend
Dec 2 2008, 02:47 PM
EP: I'm so sorry to hear about your husband's situation. It is so odd that they would have him go through so much training and then -- poof. It makes no sense to me. I will be thinking of you, and sending big hugs your way.
Crazy in CA
Dec 2 2008, 02:55 PM
((((HUGS)))) EP - hang in there darling! I agree with Wits! What is up with sending him to the states and investing in the training only to turn around and do this? No wonder this is such a shock! You are in my thought today hon...
xxxooo
Lostnut
Dec 2 2008, 03:41 PM
Hi Gez,
(((((HUGS))))) to you. Sorry to hear that your Hubby got fired. The way it was done sounds a bit strange. Why would they go to the trouble of training him up only to fire him? It makes no sence at all.
As Leanne said one door closes and another one opens. Around the corner Im sure there will be a job waiting for your Hubby.
I will be thinking of you, your Hubby and family. Sending you lots and lots of good vibes for things to get better for you all.
Take care from Deb.
FoxyRoxy
Dec 2 2008, 03:59 PM
OMG EP I'm so sorry to hear of this awful dilema. Even without an employment contract I didn't think employers can just fire someone for no real reason, well at least they can't in this country.
Don't worry too much EP your hubby is a very intelligent man and has much to offer any future employer and I'm sure he'll land the
right job in no time. You had your suspicions this outfit was dodgy and they have been confirmed by their atrocious behaviour.
Hang in there my sweet, like the others said as
'one door closes another door opens', but this is just bad timing right before xmas

Hugs
Rox
Bookworm56
Dec 2 2008, 04:00 PM
Eve, I am so sorry. This is a terrible thing to happen, especially around the holidays. Perhaps it was an internal economic decision and nothing to do with your dh's job performance. I know that is small consolation.
My husband is a hard worker, but struggles with ADD & dyslexia. He can learn his job, but sometimes it takes him a bit longer to grasp the complicated things. In our 22 years together, he has been fired several times. Although it is discrimination to fire someone because of a disability, it's hard to prove your case--so, we just toughed it out and sure enough another job would come along. Now he works for an ambulance company and is happier than he's ever been.
You will get through this and believe me, something better is down the road for your hubby.
In the meantime, I will uphold you in prayer. (((hugs)))
Careergrl
Dec 2 2008, 04:02 PM
(((((Gez))))) Geez, I am so sorry to hear of this....been there with my hubs almost 6 years ago. It was indeed one of the darkest periods in our married lives together. In retrospec, it was a gift. I can say this many moons later, now that my hubs has gainful employment. It meant two moves, out of TX, to AZ and then to CA. (we were in TX at the time he was fired) to get to this point ,and we have been in place for almost 4 years. I know at the time it sure as heck didn't seem like it was a gift...in fact it was downright painful..... You and your hubs are in the shock stage of grieving right now.
In California, where we live, the employee is considered "at will" under the labor laws. Meaning, the employer can fire the employee for any reason. There are exceptions though, one of them being, if the employee has an oral or a written contract with the employer that he/she won't be fired without "just cause." I noticed you said your husband didn't have a contract? I don't know how the labor laws work in the UK but it would be worth checking into to see if you have "just cause" to go to the labor board; if you have one there.
So many of our friends are losing their jobs here in the states. Friends who have been working for the same employer for many years. I am sending prayers and many hugs your way. Please PM me if you want to talk. I have walked in your shoes and I know it helps if you have someone outside of your husband to vent with.
Love,
SusanC
Floater
Dec 2 2008, 04:07 PM
Oh EP, I am SO sorry!! And yes, what a shock, how unexpected!! Having been there myself recently, I know how hard it is on everyone, including you. Hang in there. Hopefully things will work themselves out, my SO is now very happily employed again. He is really loving his new job so in the end losing his job was for the best also. I guess it is true that when one door closes, a window opens.
(((HUGS)))
arla
Dec 2 2008, 04:16 PM
Oh EP,
I'm so sorry to hear this.
I hope things work themselves out for you.
Sending big hugs to you and your family.
(((((HUGS))))),
Arla.
davinci817
Dec 2 2008, 04:20 PM
(((((((((EP)))))))))) Something better will come along, just be positive for the hubby's sake and tell him that it isn't his fault.
Jonie
Dec 2 2008, 04:34 PM
((((EP))))
So sorry! What a shock!
I do pray that things will work out for the best!
Many hugs,
Jonie
EveningPrimrose
Dec 2 2008, 04:37 PM
Thank you girls, thank you so much for your support. My husband also sends his apreciation for all your posts of support. We have just sent a written request for an explanation as to why the contract was terminated. We have no idea why this has happened ---
This is what the letter said ---Dear ****
Further to our meeting on 2nd December 2008 I am writing to confirm we will be terminating your empolyment with **** ***** Ltd. prior to the end of the probationary period. Your probationary period was due to end on 1st January 2009.
This will take effect immediately and you will be paid 1 weeks pay in lieu of notice plus 2 days annual leave to wchich you are entitled. Your P45 and any monies owing will be forwarded to you.
Any monies due to for outsdtanding expenses will be sent to you under seperate cover, pleas ensure that expenses claims and receipts are sent to the accounts deparrtment.
So thats basically it. When my husband was called into the office he thought his contract had been drawn up to be signed -- He had no idea this was going to happen. When my husband was told that his contract was going to be terminated, he said to his boss " do you know what you're doing to me?" And all his boss could say is "I know how you feel" --
My heart breaks for my husband but I'm trying to remain strong for him. He was made redundant in June as most of you know and now this --- At least we have our family intact - I have a lovely husband who would do anything for anybody and two beautiful kids. I am thankful for that and that is what matters.
It will be difficult this Christmas , losing a job is never easy, but thankfully we shopped early for Christmas gifts so that's something. Thank you so much for your support -- I can't tell you how much it means --
Sorry for any typos -- I'm still trying to get my head around this and feel so crappy
EveningPrimrose
Dec 2 2008, 04:40 PM
QUOTE (davinci817 @ Dec 2 2008, 08:20 PM)

(((((((((EP)))))))))) Something better will come along, just be positive for the hubby's sake and tell him that it isn't his fault.
Davinci
Funny you should say that -- it's the first thing I said to him - I told him it's not his fault... poor guy.
(((hugs)))
kar4242
Dec 2 2008, 04:40 PM
(((((((((EP)))))))))))))))) I was shocked to read this just now. What was their reasoning for this? There has to be some explanation to give you some peace of mind at least. I will say a prayer that this only happened because something better is right ahead in the near future.
Hugs,
Karen
EveningPrimrose
Dec 2 2008, 04:43 PM
QUOTE (kar4242 @ Dec 2 2008, 08:40 PM)

(((((((((EP)))))))))))))))) I was shocked to read this just now. What was their reasoning for this? There has to be some explanation to give you some peace of mind at least. I will say a prayer that this only happened because something better is right ahead in the near future.
Hugs,
Karen
Karen,
They told him that they were terminating his employment and if he wanted an explanation he needs to apply for it in writing which we did tonight. Strange how they can request such a thing when they didn't even bother to draw up a contract of employment after all this time ---
Thanks Karen.
kar4242
Dec 2 2008, 04:46 PM
I'm so sorry this is happening to him,you and your family....I know there is something better out there for him....there just has to be. I'm praying for you.
If there is anything I can do please let me know.
Major hugs,
Karen
BellaScarlett
Dec 2 2008, 08:11 PM
I'm so sorry that this has happened and I can only imagine how you feel right now. Please take a few deep breaths and tell yourself that something else will come along soon. You will be ok.
Juliann
Dec 2 2008, 08:53 PM
Hello EP,
I just read through this thread and I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry to hear this new's. It also makes me think that he is better off not working for a company like this. He will move on, and you will see that things will work out in the long run.
You sound like you have a wonderful man, you describe him with such confidence, things will work out
Everyone here is pulling for you, hang in there!
Hugs, Juliann
lavenderladywing
Dec 2 2008, 09:27 PM
Oh EP, I am so sorry. There is a better job out there just waiting for him, I know it! Everything will work out. Hang in there.
LLW
joliejacq
Dec 2 2008, 10:38 PM
Oh, Gez, I'm so sorry.
I pray your husband will find something else that he enjoys, and soon. It is such a scary time, and we too here in the States have many friends and family who are losing their jobs. It's very, very upsetting.
(((BIG HUGS)))
JJ
rendy
Dec 3 2008, 12:20 AM
EP, My thoughts are with you and your hubby. Many companys are cutting back any way they can; other companies are going poof overnight. It is very likely a financial decision the company was forced to make. I'm sure that doesn't help you but it might help to know it isn't his fault. I hope and pray he finds something he really enjoys. I've been through downturns just jumping from temporary job to temporary job happy to have an income. It does settle down. HUGS to you.
pookish
Dec 3 2008, 07:11 AM
EP --- I am so sorry to hear about your hub's job loss. Just to second what Rendy said we are in this terrible global recession and very likely it was no fault of your husband's but a result of difficult business conditions. Does he know if any of his colleagues were let go as well?
I know this comes as no comfort but take heart... something better might just be around the corner.
Much love and postitve thoughts your way.
Please im me off line if you want to chat i am always available to you!

pooks
squiggle
Dec 3 2008, 07:45 AM
EP - I'm PM-ing you!
RoundRobin
Dec 3 2008, 11:06 AM
EP: I know how you feel; believe me I do. But it may turn out that this is a blessing in disguise. You know the old saying: When one door closes, another opens. Once you are past the shock of the whole thing, you'll be able to look towards the future and hopefully, something better will come along. Employers are ruthless; they don't give a fig about the families their employees have to support...it's all about the bottom line profit. I wish you guys the best of luck...keep us posted...
Twitchy
Dec 3 2008, 04:48 PM
EP ..........so sorry to hear about your hubby .I can imagine how hurt he must feel....It has been done is such a cruel, clinical manner ......I think we can all understand if we are put off due to economical reasons......but to be told nothing.......and to have to write to ask why is just plan WRONG ...........it is the cowards way out ......he didn't have the guts to tell hubby why in person...
I am sure in the end he will be pleased he is no longer working for them....and he will find employment working with nice people , that treat their employees with respect.
Hugs to you all,
Twitchy
Jill1955
Dec 3 2008, 05:06 PM
I think sometimes companies just have to make a choice between two really wonderful hard working qualified employees. Perhaps because of the economy cut backs had to be made and your dear hubby just happened to be the unlucky person to suffer. Their lose will be another employers gain. Hang in there and wait for another door to open. Hugs Jill
angelindskies
Dec 4 2008, 04:21 AM
ep~~~
oh, hun, i am so sorry to learn of this untimely, horrible news!
i will keep hubs, you and the kids in my prayers.
it wasn't that long ago you two were here in the states for his job. makes me think the company has issues going on that have NOTHING to do with your hub or his work performance. it's a shame this happened, but this may well be a blessing in disguise.
"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, ambition inspired, and success achieved." Helen Keller
oodles of hugs at this very difficult juncture
(((angel)))
Texasgirl
Dec 4 2008, 12:21 PM
I just found this thread and want to send my prayers along to you and your husband. What a terrible thing to happen during these economic times (or any time, for that matter.) I hope thinks get better very soon.
zjsurfer
Dec 4 2008, 10:08 PM
QUOTE (EveningPrimrose @ Dec 2 2008, 02:37 PM)

Thank you girls, thank you so much for your support. My husband also sends his apreciation for all your posts of support. We have just sent a written request for an explanation as to why the contract was terminated. We have no idea why this has happened ---
This is what the letter said ---Dear ****
Further to our meeting on 2nd December 2008 I am writing to confirm we will be terminating your empolyment with **** ***** Ltd. prior to the end of the probationary period. Your probationary period was due to end on 1st January 2009.
This will take effect immediately and you will be paid 1 weeks pay in lieu of notice plus 2 days annual leave to wchich you are entitled. Your P45 and any monies owing will be forwarded to you.
Any monies due to for outsdtanding expenses will be sent to you under seperate cover, pleas ensure that expenses claims and receipts are sent to the accounts deparrtment.
So thats basically it. When my husband was called into the office he thought his contract had been drawn up to be signed -- He had no idea this was going to happen. When my husband was told that his contract was going to be terminated, he said to his boss " do you know what you're doing to me?" And all his boss could say is "I know how you feel" --
My heart breaks for my husband but I'm trying to remain strong for him. He was made redundant in June as most of you know and now this --- At least we have our family intact - I have a lovely husband who would do anything for anybody and two beautiful kids. I am thankful for that and that is what matters.
It will be difficult this Christmas , losing a job is never easy, but thankfully we shopped early for Christmas gifts so that's something. Thank you so much for your support -- I can't tell you how much it means --
Sorry for any typos -- I'm still trying to get my head around this and feel so crappy

I pray God uses this for good and he gets a much better job very soon!
Zelma
moozie
Dec 4 2008, 11:56 PM
EP, Gezzie
This is awful, I feel so badly for you and hub...what a bunch of goofs they are for doing this. There must be a problem with that company for sure. I know it's hard right now, but there will be something better out there for him and you. I'm having my own work troubles so I can relate in a way.
There are alot of people praying and sending love to you, just feel it all around you my dear.
You are in my heart..and always are (btw).
Hugs and Love
Moozie
xoxoxox
Debster52
Dec 5 2008, 09:18 AM
EP...i am so very sorry to hear about your husbands job. My husband experienced that a few years ago and it effected us all. Please know your in my prayers and thoughts daily. It is really the most stressful things to happen. I will tell you in our experience that every time my husband has been laid off he has gotten something much better. Hang in there. Keep us posted on how your doing as well. It effects the family more then you will ever expect.
Take Care
quiltangel24
Dec 10 2008, 12:01 AM
hi, i can understand exactly how you feel...my husband was fired from his job at the beginning of july...it was a small mfg company (times are getting tough here) and he suggested someone was drunk on the job and insisted they were ...well on any normal day it may have been fine...but the owner of the company was trying to find ways to get rid of the long time help and his wife didnt really like my husband anyway so they told him he was going to be laid off till Monday and he got a call the next morning at home and she told him they voted and he had been terminated...i was absolutely terrified...he had never been without a job (i dont work outside the home---i babysit for a 5yr old) and the worst problem was i have a cancer background..what would we do??? where could we turn?? we turned to God..He is the only person that got us through this ordeal.....my husband is finally working a parttime job that he has had for a month now...times are very hard.....just PRAY..and PRAY somemore....God has sustained us...My husband was denied unemployment as well...we survived and continue to survive with the help of God and our loving family....God has the answer..He is a great human resource manager....where jobs are hard to find now...God made an opening...Thank you GOD! I am praying for him to help you, also!
QUOTE (EveningPrimrose @ Dec 2 2008, 11:45 AM)

My dear husband has just been fired from his job. He was on a 3 month contract which started at the beginning of October -- He is a hard working guy and has excellent reviews in past employments. I I mentioned that he hasn't got a contract of employment and he wrote to his boss reminding him of this. His boss then wrote to HR asking them to sort it out. He went to the US for 3 weeks for training - we have no idea why this happened. He travels 2 hours there and back to work -- they have waited until 5pm, the end of a working day do this. He was on a probationary period. I am so upset for my husband. he's the most lovely guy and so hard working --- Sorry if this post doen;t make much sense. I'm in a state.
CarolH
Dec 10 2008, 08:19 AM
EP, I'm so sorry. It's never easy to lose a job. My hubby went through this last year and I lost my job in October so I know how scary it can be. Plus, it sounds as though they handled it very poorly. I know in my situation, I knew my company was shutting down 5 months prior to losing my job yet it still hurts.
I have been surprised at the cloud of shame I feel for being unemployed. It may not be rational but it's real. I can read in your email how loving and supportive you are for your husband and he is going to need all your support. He may be going through emotions he's not able to talk about yet your understanding will help him. I also struggle with writing cover letters and thank you notes for interviews...and interviews are another struggle... the feeling of being judged.... it's not easy to be in these shoes... and it's not easy being in your shoes.. I was there too, last year and watched my husband go through the shame and the feelings of rejection and the struggles of finding a job and the fears of going through our savings and not losing everything. Prayers... as Quiltangel has said... it has been prayer and God's goodness that we rely on during this time and He has been very good to us as I'm sure He will be for you and your husband. I'll be praying for you.
Blessings,
Jalyn
Dec 10 2008, 08:41 AM
EP, I'm also sorry to hear about your hubby losing his job. The economy will get better and your husband will find a better job! I'll keep you in my prayers.
dcamp
Dec 14 2008, 09:38 AM
EP---I just read this thread and want you to know that I too feel so very badly for your husband and your family. I will keep you in my daily prayers and please remember that as bleak as it may seem now, things do have a way of working themselves out. I pray that he finds employment soon and that 2009 will be a better year for you.
God Bless,
Donna
EveningPrimrose
Dec 14 2008, 11:32 AM
Thank you so much for your continued support. Recently, hubby and I have heard a few things about the company - wish he'd never accepted an offer there. We live and learn. We are looking forward to new horizons after the initial shock of his unexpected job loss. Thank you for being here for us! I will keep you posted.
Happy Christmas to you all!
(((hugs))))
Snowmoon56
Dec 14 2008, 07:18 PM
EP I just saw your thread for the first time too> The Initial shock is the worse!
He shall talk to an attorney since they kept him until the end of a work day proves they felt he was performing at an acceptable level of performance!
This same thing happened to my husband!
Your husband may be able to at least get a better severance pay out.
sdblue
Dec 26 2008, 01:50 PM
EP I just read this post.... I'm so very very Sorry this happened to your DH and your family..... Just know that something better will come your all's way...
These Company care about no one, for the most part you are just a number, very very sad but true..... And know they will get what's coming to them....
What a rotten way to treat someone, tell your hubby I will be praying for you All... Again I'm sorry that this happened but when one door closes Another one opens...
Lots of love, hugs and prayers to you EP
Love, sdblue
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