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carole
Does anyone experience muscle pain in thier legs (upper)?  I don't know what this is from. When all these other crazy peri symptoms started about a year ago, I remember the very first symptom was muscle pain my legs...now it comes and goes. Then the other symptoms started insomnia, anxiety, depression, headaches at a certain time ever month, occasional rashes...on and on. Sometimes I think I have some dread disease that has not been diagnosed..i.e lupus or something...oh well its probably just aches and pains.
AnnS
Hi, Carole,

Yes, I also have pain in my upper legs (right now, as a matter of fact).  It started about six months ago when all my other symptoms hit.  It feels similar to the leg pains I had each time I was pregnant, so it must be hormonal.  When I first started with all this, I didn't know what was wrong, and I had every test known to man, so I'm certain they would have found something else if it wasn't part of meno.  It gets awfully discouraging sometimes, though, when all these different things crop up :confused:

Keep hanging in there.......this can't go on forever.....can it ohmy.gif

Love and hugs :cheesy: Ann

carole
Thnaks Ann , I had no idea muscle aches could be part of it too.  :)
Nora
Carole, I have struggled with muscle pains in my upper legs on and off for months.  I have had joint pain and stiffness also. I had blood work done for some nasty diseases but thank God all has been normal.  Unfortunately, that doesn't make the pain go away.I have tried to really increase my water intake and stick to my walking routine. I do agree it is like the leg pains during pregnancy.These hormones are somethin' else, aren't they?Good Luck, Nora
EileenG
Yes, muscle pain in the legs is one of my symptoms too.  What is that, anyway?  Also, they  (the legs)are very restless and I feel like I need to move them all the time.  I tried extra calcium/magnesium etc.  The pain does seem to come and go too.Heat helps a lttle. I also  have wondered if I have a dreaded disease!  However, if I did, I would probably be dead by now.!  I've been dealing with the muscle aches of fibromyalgia for a long time.  I guess meno is just making it more fun than ever before:)Hang in there everyone.  Thanks for listening .  It does help to be understood.
Dearest
Eileen says, "I also  have wondered if I have a dreaded disease!"  That should be the 35th sign of menopause:

Wondering if I have a dreaded disease!

In its humor, it's very true. So many of us have wondered if we have some horrific disease because so many of these symptoms we experience can be so frightening and it often seems as if they're all coming at once. I can relate to the joint aches and pains -- those in the legs, feet, elbows, hands, chest (costochondritis). I don't know -- something is wrong with this picture. This isn't how I imagined midlife would be. It's almost like being on top of the world (relatively speaking) only eight years ago and taking a nose dive into constant discomfort. I keep hoping and praying things will get better. It's hope that keeps us going. I can't even imagine this will continue forever.  

IreneCrites
Dear Dearest........I so wish you would find some relief that would last. I too still suffer from all of your issues and even on a good day there is the ever hanging dark cloud that tomorrow will be right back to square one.  Not what I had planned for this part of my life but hope and prayers and a deep sense of spirituality keeps me going as it does you also I know. I will pray for you and send Reiki energy to you.
EileenG
Thanks to Dearest for all the wonderful support!  Everyone here is helping me so much to stay sane about everything.  I have no energy to give anyone!  I'm so sorry that you all are in pain too, --but, I am so grateful to have your thoughts and experiences to remind me I'm not alone.  THANk-YOU!

(Edited by EileenG at 2:00 am on Aug. 6, 2002)

dawn
Hi Everyone,

Found this forum interesting because I'm in the process of being tested for the "dreaded disease."

For years I've had neuro symptoms, first one sided facial paralysis, then one sided arm and hand weakness, and now my legs have given out, can't seem to lift them higher than an inch off the floor.  Not alot of pain, just fatigue feeling.

Major bladder infection which ended me in the hospital last week after nothing would clear it up.  I've been this route before, once about 5 years ago, and then about 3 years ago.  Neurologists and lots of others looking for the "dreaded disease", thinking it was Lyme or MS, nothing ever showed up, I just flunk all the neuro tests, they say there's a problem, but can't pinpoint the cause.  In my humble opinion, the medical community is lacking "intellectual curiosity" and can always tell you what you don't have, but don't seek to pursue it and tell you what you do have.  This is especially true if you are a middle aged woman.  For a couple years before the neuro symptoms showed up, I would just have pain in my face and tongue, and they literally dismissed me as a "nut case."  

Seen dozens of Dr.'s, even chased it all the way to Duke a few years ago, and what usually happens is I get fed up and quit going for awhile after about the 20th Dr., and the futile attempt of pinpointing a cause.

After reading these boards for awhile, I'm still wondering if it's just wild hormones that have sent me into a tail spin.  Time will tell, I'll either get better or worse.  That's the way I look at it.  Doesn't seem to affect me, emotionally anymore, because I figure what I have, I have, and I have had it for the past 5 years.  Usually symptoms subside after a couple months and I get back a near normal life.

Well, just wanted to add my two cents.  Sorry for the long post.  

ladybird
Hi Dawn

Just wanted to express my smpathy as I feel the same way...happened when I turned 40. My body just seemed to give up. Of course you panic and you think that death is just around the corner, but after going the route of 101 doctors(at least it seemed like it) they have found nothing wrong, and I am sure I have been tested for everything under the sun. I also have adopted the attitude, that whatever is there is there and maybe someday I will wake up and it will be gone as quickly as it came (here's hoping anyways). Just know that you are not alone. Take care...

EileenG
I completely know what you mean!  I too have done the whole Dr. thing in the past.  Hope you're all doing better today.  Thanks for being there!

(Edited by EileenG at 2:02 am on Aug. 6, 2002)

MsMolly
Ohhhh, thanks Dearest.:biggrin:  Now, I have another symptom of meno. LOL  

*adding number 35 to my list*

Molly

sandyk
Well, I'm so glad I discovered this site!  I finally don't feel like I am crazy!  Yes, I have recently started to experience severe muscle aches mostly in my upper legs, buns and lower back.  I used to feel this way before my period, kind of like having the flu, but no one else seemed to know what I was talking about.  Now that I am perimenopausal (read PMS without the schedule) this is my latest symptom that is bothersome.  I've heard one theory that it could be due to water retention, and the resultant "swelling" of the muscles.  I've just started taking dandelion which is supposedly a good natural dieuretic, so will see if this helps.  All I've found that really helps so far is a good soak in a hot bath. I've never been a "bath person" before (prefer those quick showers), but I am learning to read in the tub now!  Anyone else heard of the water retention theory?
SusanB
Hi Sandy!Most of my pain in in my lower legs, wrists and hands... go figure.  As for water retention... if my nightly trips to the bathroom are any indication, water retention is not the problem...

On the other hand, I look and feel pretty bloated lately!   So the only thing that I'm absolutely sure of is..., I am absolutely sure of nothing.

What's a girl to do???

Snowbird
Hi Sandy and SusanBoy, can I relate!! wink.gif

I have the fibro and arthritis....but lately my legs, (especially), lower back, etc.,etc. have been a real pain in the....ahem....backside!!Just had my first period in 10 months!! Gosh Sakes I could hardly move, with the leg and back pain!!  I knew it was different!! sad.gif

Period is almost over....pain almost gone and I did notice BLOAT!!  Cloths felt tight! Yikes!!  What am I saying???  I actually lost weight 3-4 pounds in a couple of days during my period!! Sooooooo....water retention...yup....I had it!! Cloths feel fine today!! *Sigh* Dang body!!  Keeps a girl guessing!!  *ALWAYS SOMETHIN* :biggrin::biggrin:

Take care....hope you guys are feeling better today!! I'm starting to................................................:biggrin:

((((((((((Hugs from a Canadian Chick)))))))))))))                        Nancy

sandyk
Hi Susan, Snowbird!Susan, I'm with you; the only thing I know for sure, is I don't know! I really see perimenopause like adolescence, you just never know what your body is going to do next!! I keep trying to figure out how to minimize all the discomfort, but I guess if the name of the game is FLUCTUATING hormonal levels, it adds another layer of complexity to all my attempts (Did it work because of the modifications I made, or did it just get better because of  a natural fluctuation back to a more comfortable balance? Or ...how come it used to help, but it doesn't anymore?)  For now, my hot baths have been wonderful in helping the muscle pains.  I also have an old knee injury that got re-injured last year and I find MSM has helped that a great deal as well. In the end, Snowbird, you're right, ...it can't go on forever!  Here's to attaining a new balance in our lives and bodies, and surviving our "growing pains"!
buttercup
Hi Gals, I don't know what to do about this achey muscle and joint pain, it is driving me crazy.. My husband too, he thinks me sitting down every night with a heating pad or an ice pack to relieve the pain is not what I should be doing. He is after me to go out for a walk, and says if I don't things will only get worse.  I would love to  but I find it so hard to walk more than 5 or 10 minutes. They say if you don't use it you will lose it, Has anyone felt by just getting out there and exercising or walking has helped eventually??? In the morning before I get out of bed I almost need the heating pad to loosen up the sore muscles.  Imagine being sore just from sleeping.Any ideas would certainly help.  I am going to try walking, short distances first, but was just wondering if any of you gals feel the same but have tried to overcome the terrible muscle pain.

Buttercup

Kalanie
Hi Buttercup...

In addition to my peri symptoms, I also suffer with osteo-arthritis in my knee joints.  This arthritis makes my legs very stiff and painful after extented periods of inactivity (like sitting at the computer for long periods of time) and upon awakening in the morning.  The stiffness/pain is increased if the weather is cold/damp.  The literature on arthritis talks about this stiffness/pain with inactivity and upon awakening, as does my doctor and physical therapist.  I have been told by all of them that I must exercise to keep the stiffness/pain to a minimum.  I also take an anti-inflamatory, a Cox 2 inhibitor, Celebrex, which helps a great deal.  

I have found that when I do not exercise my stiffness/pain is worse.  Since, like you, it is often painful to walk or do any weight-bearing exercise, I have been advised to ride a stationary bike every day for at least 10-20 minutes.  I find that I do get relief with this form of exercise, as well as stretching major muscles in the morning.  It is often difficult to start this each morning, but once I get the legs moving, they feel much better within minutes, and for the rest of the day.  If I do not do this, my legs will hurt all day.   I might also add that since I have started taking the natural bio-identical HRT, the stiffness/pain has decreased significantly.  Go figure!

Snowbird
Kalanie, Hi!!Boy....can I relate!!I have osteo-arthritis in my knees too....plus everywhere else:o  The mornings can be such a drag, just trying to get out of bed, etc.,etc.

I'm in a catch 22 situation!! With fibromyalgia....if I exercise, when I shouldn't that gets worse...if I don't exercise (when I should for the arthritis), then that suffers!! *Sigh* Sooooooo....I neva know until it's too late which way is up....err....right!!;)For me it can be so dang frustrating to say the least....I really....really....really, have to listen to my body!! Even then..........................mad.gif............it doesn't always work!! *Sigh*

((((((((Hugs Y'all)))))))           Snowy

janniem
Kalanie, Hi!I can relate to the legs aches too!  I "do" my stairs for exercise, I have about a dozen that I go up and down 15 -20 times. It's h--- for the first 10 or so, but it really does get better, and if I do this regularly it really does help. It's good exercise but the dog sure does get tired and confused going up and down with me.
SylvryMoon
Ah, the joys of middle age.  Like Dearest, I never thought it would be like this.  Every time I visit my 87-year old mother, who is nearly incapacitated with osteoarthritis, I wonder what's in store for me.  (yes, I take my calcium-magnesium pills faithfully).

The upper-thigh ache is something that hit me a few years ago, and used to be excruciating during my periods (which I haven't had for 5 months).  I know I've already inherited my mom's arthritis, because I have it in my hands and wrists.  And let's not even discuss my feet!  They belong in that other thread about botched bunion surgery 20 years ago, calluses, etc.

So now it's my hips.  Hard to move around well when both the thighs and hips are going.  And work is a problem - too many stairs and too long a walk from the parking lot.  All that exercise should be healthy for me, but at the end of the day, I just want to get horizontal on the sofa until morning.  And not having exercise beyond the work-imposed stairs and walking is not doing my weight problem any good.

I wish we could all get our tired bodies together for a group hug.  But the emotional and spiritual support I get here is almost as good.  It just helps to know I'm not alone.Hugs,

Kalanie
Hi Snowy...

The peri symptoms are bad enough, but those joint and muscle problems are the pits!  And, mornings are the absolute worst for me also.  I know that I am probably lucky that I only suffer with the osteo in my knees... I do know of many other people, including you, now, that seem to have it much worse than I do.  I do remember a couple of years back when I thought I might have Fibro, and felt relieved that it was osteo after I read about how much pain comes with Fibro.  I certainly admire anyone who is brave enough to suffer through it, that's for sure! Here's hoping for some huge medical breakthrough to help all of us be pain free someday soon!

Kalanie
Hi Janniem... Ouch!  I do not even want to think of stairs!  That has to be one of the biggest killers for my knee pain, although it has gotten better.  I have several daily exercises to do now, from pt, but they have been gracious enough to spare me the stairs!   I admire you for your tenacity with those horrifying things!  
Kalanie
SylvryMoon...  I can really relate to wanting to be horizontal by the end of the day!   When I am really hurting, I often think of my lack of sympathy as a teenager for my grandmother, and I feel awful about it!  Somehow, I just couldn't relate to ever being "that old" then.  As my orthopedic doctor keeps repeating to me, "Welcome to the Golden Years".     wink.gif
Dearest
"Susan, I'm with you; the only thing I know for sure, is I don't know!"

Exactly. Hence the tagline I've used for years in my signature, "The only consistent thing about menopause is that it's consistently INconsistent."

barbara1
I was glad to see this thread. For the past 6 or more months, my uppr thighs ache - but only at night - and it's hard to get comfortable since I only sleep on my side. It's difficult to pin it to a place in my cycle, since my periods are only coming every 12-14 weeks now. But this night-time aching is really the pits - especially when coupled with 101 temperature changes!
Liz51
I've really been bothered the last few weeks with pain in my hips and lower back.  I'm sure it's either my sciatica or arthritis.  I'm stiff in the morning, so I do the stretches given to me by a physical therapist before I even get out of bed, then I walk for 20 minutes or so on my treadmill.  I walk on my breaks at work too (if it isn't 95 degrees like it has been the last few days).  It hurts, but I feel the walking keeps me limber and certainly helps my weight control and anxiety.  I'm typing this as I sit on an ice pack - another thing the physical therapist told me to do.  At night I've found that Mineral Ice or Icy Hot or one of those type products really helps with the pain and I can get right to sleep.  I think this hot, humid weather has not helped all of our aches and pains, I almost think it's worse than the cold for our poor old aging bodies.

Hugs,Liz51

Snowbird
Liz, Hi!!

I find walking is the best thing for me....when I can do it! Even if it's a little at a time!!  I've mentioned before on previous posts....that when I'm really hurting....I wrap my legs, with tensor wrap!  That's so I can walk, (if I'm already bedridden)!!  It seems to give me just enough strength in my legs to move....then walk, some...then, some more!!  Soon, I can take the wrap off!

I too like ice packs!! Especially.....during this heat and with the nightly flushes, it's the only thing that works!!

((((((((Hugs to ya)))))))))              Nancy

Yankeegal
Hi - I didn't quite know what to do with this post - it fit in a bunch of categories - sleep, aching, anxiety, but this seems like as good a place as any!  Just before this year, when I turned 50, I've started being achey all over.  It come in spurts, and I'll be fine for a couple months and then all of a sudden, I'm in agony, insofar as muscles, bones, the works!  I feel anxious when I sleep, waking up with that strange, "Oh, my goodness!" anxiety about nothing and about everything, several times a night, and not being able to find a comfy way/place of sleeping.  I'm ordering a new mattress to eliminate the possibilty of that being a problem.  Of course, especially during night my mind goes into "worry mode" no matter what I do.  I also awaken around 3:30 - 4 every day, wide awake.  If I don't get up then and occupy myself, then I'll finally wind up going back to sleep, when there's only time enough for 15 or so minutes!  Well, I'm rambling, I know, but it's what I do best now!  LOL  Lately, I'm feeling a little bit better during the day, once I get moving.  I find that when I do motivate myself to walk the track, mind, body and spirit DO feel better...it's just getting myself motivated!  
Carol S from PA
Yankeegirl:  There's only one four-letter word for these symptoms, MENO.  During the worst of peri, my upper and lower legs ached so bad, I couldn't find a comfortable position to sleep in.  The anxiety, racing heart, palpitations, etc. were horrible.  There were nights I would only sleep for 2 hrs., wake up, and never fall back to sleep again.  Life was horrible.  I struggled to go to work and take care of the kids (hubby included) and house.  Many days, I couldn't do anything.  After trying many things, I found exercise (especially walking, jogging) helped the muscle aches and pain in my legs; and Revival soy, along with deep breathing/meditation, help the anxiety/panic.  Of course, everything improved with time.  However, it was a very rough 1 yr.  Most of all, this board saved my sanity, because no doctor would confirm that these symptoms were even worthy of being addressed, and none would just say they were meno related.  I really thought I was losing my mind until I found this board.  E-mail any of us any time, I'll be glad to tell you what I know.  Hugs,
Yankeegal
Thanks for your note, Carol.  Yes, without the input from everyone here, I sure would feel scared and isolated.  Sometimes I feel like I'm always complaining about something to my friends and family, and that was never my style! I also have stretching bands, and pulling on those helps my muscles feel a little better.  While I don't have the aching in my legs, my upper arms feel as if I've been lifting tons of boxes.   That feeling is what started me using the bands.   It's all so strange.Kim
Aunt B
Yankee girl,

I know what you are talking about.  I do not like the feeling of being 50 let alone all of the aches and pains.  I agree with the others that exercise and meditation do help.  As it has been said,  "This too shall pass."  YA THINK????!!!!  :o  :o  :o  :o  :biggrin:

Huggsss

Yankeegal
Hi  Aunt B,

Yup, I agree.  Exercise, mediation, thinking "happy thoughts" and the support from each other shall see us through!  Fifty  is Nifty!  (How's that for positive thinking?  LOL)                    Kim

maureend
Yankeegal, I have struggled with the aches and pains for the last year. Mine is exactly like yours. It will be awful and then be gone one day. I used to play a lot of tennis and I finally decided to take a break. My body was so sore after I played, it was not worth it. I decide to listen to my body. Try some evening primose oil--it has some anti-inflammatory benefits.Walking and moving around really does seem to help. I do think listening to our bodies through this process is very important. I try to treat myself to a massage once a month. They are expensive but I think they help release what we are holding on to in those muscles.Good luck
Yankeegal
Hi Maureen,I've used evening primrose for aches and tenderness in my breasts, and it seems to help for that too.  You do sound just like me, in your experiences.  I was feeling really rotten for most of August and then on Tuesday, it just lifted!  I am thankful, but puzzled!  Good luck to you to with these life changes!
EileenG
Yankeegal, Carol, AuntB, and Maureend,I read your posts today with sympathy and understanding of what you're going through!  I too, have the acheying and sleep disturbances that you're talking about.  sometimes, it feels like it's better and then -----WHAM! Its back!  I know it's worse when i don't sleep deeply enough or when I'm under extreme stress!  Although I wonder sometimes, if it's the other way around -- if I don't sleep well and i feel stress because i'm worn down by pain???? :confused:Anyway, you are not alone in feeling this way.  There are a lot of ladies like Snowbird, Dearest, Kalanie, and Sylvery (and others) who suffer from chronic pain and acheyness!  We all understand!!   Heres hoping for a painfree day today!  Hugs, E.

(Edited by EileenG at 2:04 am on Aug. 6, 2002)

GGc0ok
ME GG, is another to add to the list of aches and pains, and feeling like I've got the flu,,,,,,,oh no not again.  Thats what I feel when my Fibromyalgia decides to reappear.  I'm feeling pretty good the past couple of weeks or so, the heat triggers my flareups.  Certain exercises do as well.  Sometimes, it can just come on for no apparent reason. Yankee, you just whine, complain all you want, this is our room to do that, we all need to know that complaining and whining is allowed here.  We don't mind what so ever.  Vent baby vent,,,,it'll be our turn next GG :biggrin:
sandyk
Yes, I know what you mean about the doctors not feeling that these issues are worthy to address, and how that makes me feel like I am "just whining" and I do feel I have tired some friends out by expressing all these difficulties that impact me so GREATLY! It really is difficult to live your life to the fullest when you are struggling with symptoms that fluctuate so unpredictably, and it's hard to be upbeat.  I feel so much external pressure to "keep up with the rat race", yet know that I need to find a lifestyle and support that will allow me to honor my own needs.  My own symptoms are back to body aches again, fatigue, and those lovely "energy surges" that love to hit in the middle of the night, depriving my poor tired self of much needed rest.  Somehow it does seem that when you wake up in the middle of the night, your mind does seem to drift to worries almost naturally, and I have found that I need to make a very strong concious effort to stop that train of thought.  I have found what works best for me is a quick "count my blessings list" followed by  progressive relaxation exercises, where I start with my toes and work my way up my body.  I like to start with my toes because it's a nice happy thought that at least I ususally have no pain in my big toe on my right foot, followed by the next happy thought that I have no pain on my left big toe, followed by the happy conclusion that all my toes have no pain! From there I may move on to systematically tensing and releasing tension from my foot, calf muscles, etc.  After a couple or more go arounds I usually feel much more relaxed and am able to get back to sleep fairly soon. Last night I was "up" for only a little over an hour, which is much better than it used to be!
MaryO
I don't know what this is, but it was sure scary...

Last night, after the AOL chat, I went to the bathroom.  I was kind of bent over, I guess, but I couldn't straighten up to sit up straight.  When I tried to get up, I still couldn't stand right and there was a lot of pain in my left hip.  Not really hip, though.  Kind of the very top of a leg muscle, maybe, behind the buttocks.  Like I somehow pulled that muscle, but I wasn't doing anything.

I slept with a heating pad all night and today it still hurts a lot to walk or sit after standing, although I can walk a little better than last night.

Has anyone else here had this or something similar?  Does it get better on it's own?  I'd hate to think that this is going to be a "feature" of my future life sad.gif

Thanks...

Yankeegal
Hi MaryO,Does the pain radiate down the leg?  A friend had sciatica and that was the symptom....I'm sorry I don't know more than that.  Kim
Kalanie
Hi Mary... I was also bothered with sciatica for about a year a few years ago, and what you are describing sounds alot like how I felt then, too.  In my case, PT helped me get over it fairly quickly, after I decided to go to the doctor about it.  I haven't had the problem since...knocking on wood here.  :)
MaryO
Thanks, Kim and Vickie.  I looked it up online and in some books and it sure sounds the same sad.gif

A year, Vickie?  Sounds way too long.  Maybe it's doctor time for me!

Kalanie
Yes, Mary, I sure think it sounds like sciatica... at least like how mine was.  The sharp pain down your rear and legs can just freeze you in your tracks also.  :(    

I think mine really was exacerbated by sitting at the computer for hours on end back then.   The year part wasn't because it took that long to get over it... I waited almost a good year before I went to the doctor.  After I did go to the doctor and was sent to PT, I think it pretty much cleared up by about 2-3 months....pretty quickly.  The best thing is that it hasn't returned...it has been about 4 years now.   smile.gif

The heating pad helped me alot to get out of acute pain, at times, but didn't really help solve the problem that much... I had to learn exercises to do for it in PT, and that is really what helped the most to clear it up for me.   I do have some minor degeneration (osteo there too) going on in my back, but nothing nearing what is going on with the knees.  

I think it's a good idea for you to see the doc, especially if it continues... if it is sciatica, it will continue, off and on, but mostly on.   sad.gif  

IreneCrites
Hi ladies....Yes Mary it sure does sounds like sciatica to me also.  Unfortunately sciatica problems can drag on and on.  Rest, heat and gentle stretching helps alot.  Just remember you cannot rush it so take it slow.  Anti-inflamatories will help with the pain and gentle therapeutic massage helps to lossen everything up so pamper yourself.

Blessings

leecroskey
I too have been to many doctors over the last three months trying to find a source for pain in my left flank. It starts in the back and raditates into the side. I have had ct scans, mris, xrays and on and on. The pain is worse at night. I can't sleep on my left side at all. Like everyone else in meno, I wake frequently during the night and the worry about the pain then keeps me awake. Has anyone ever experinced anything similar?
JAMMINGRAMMA
I am right now suffering from sciatic muscle problems. For 2 days I was in bed on a heating pad. This is the first day I have been able to get around. The pain is starting again, so I am sitting side ways. Also, I don't know if it was a beginning of a period or the heating pad brought on the period, but boy am I flooding. I thought 1 year ago that I was finished with my periods. I went 14 mos. without one. Then it came back with a vengence. I bled for 4 weeks. then I went 2 mos without one. Now I bleed a few days a week, or nothing for a few months. This is the first real full blown one since last year at this time. I wonder when it will ever end. I have been going through this peri stuff since I was 40. I am now 53.
WhiteHorses
Hi Mare:

I like your nick. "jamming gramma" so I checked out your post.  I notice that you are new to Power Surge.  You might want to check out the cause of the return of your period with a doctor.  You can see what the other women are saying about returned periods on the "Bleeding" forum.

lilijiau
I am glad I found this board as I too am experiencing tired aching body, some days it is really bad and then all of a sudden it is gone and some other weird thing is wrong with me.  Some times I wake up in the morning with no symptoms, but by night time I am aching and one of the real weird things is I have to undo my bra as I cannot stand the pressure around my back and ribs.  Sometimes I think I must imagine all these strange things but they are very real I can assure you.  Thanks for listening
Yankeegal
Hi lilijiau,

I haven't posted here in quite a while but I have the exact same thing with the tightness of the bra!  I feel like I'm going to scream because of the pressure/tightness.  It's been just a year, this month, since I had my last period.  So now I'm wondering how much longer I'll have weird symptoms!  I still have the achiness that I wrote about in the above posts, now and then, and I'm going through a spell now.  Also, this sounds really weird, but my bra size has increased since going through all of this.  It's not that I've gained a lot of weight or anything (maybe 2 - 3 lbs.), so I find this strange.  I have bought new, bigger sized bras, thinking that would help, but it's just "anything" around there, that bothers me.  Just thought I'd like to share that with you...you are not alone!  

lilijiau
Hi Yankeegal,It is reassuring to know that we are not alone in all of this, and I am happy to know that someone else is experiencing the same symptoms.  There are times when I think I'm going crazy as every few days another weird and wonderful thing crops up.  Today I have had "prickly" hands and feet, oh well tomorrow is another day!
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