Dear Sisters

HELP!!

I don't know what to do. My daughter woke up this morning with a shooting pain on the left side of her face. I 'think' it is sinus related, I 'think' her sinuses may be infected and I am making her a Dr's appt for today or a.s.a.p. Her dad has suffered from sinusitis for years......she must have inherited it from him....poor thing

I gave her a benadryl and a gravol and heated a beanbag to rest on her face.

She woke me up crying - - the pain was that bad!!

She has suffered with some form of sinusitis before but never this bad.

Any advise would be most appreciated. It doesn't matter how old our children are......when they are sick we feel so helpless.

Dottie

(((((((((((((Dot))))))))))))))))))

Praying for your daughter...best get her checked out by the doctor asap....did you give her any over the counter pain medication? Isn't benadryl for an allergic reaction?

Hugs,
Karen

Dottie

Oh boy, do I know how hard it is to see your children sick and/or in pain!! I think you did right, maybe add some Advil and some steam. But for sure get her to the doctor! Make sure you let us know how she is faring!

Hugs
Floater

Dear Kar
She woke me up from a dead sleep and I am so NOT a morning person. ..... Yes Benadryl is for an allergic reaction but it was all I could think of at the time. She was feeling sick to her stomach as well.....most likely from the pain and the sinuses draining into her tummy.....so I gave her a gravol to help with that. She had already taken two tylenol.......so now she is drugged up!! In retrospect it probably would have been wiser to let her throw up any of the sinus drainage....but like I said....I was not thinking too straight.

I just peeked into her bedroom and she appears to be sleeping.....moaning.....but sleeping. I called the Dr's office and he is not in today....Grrrr......The secretary does not get in until noon. I may end up taking her into a walk in clinic later today.

Thanks for your prayers
((((Hugs)))))
Dottie

Dottie - I'm sorry to hear about your daughter. It's awful to see our kids hurting. A thought occured to me - Is it possible that this could be neuralgia?

(((Hugs))) squigs

Thanks Floater
I just got off the phone with my husband. He told me that he went through this when he was in his twenties (our daughter is 19)...and he said it hurts like H**L

I think she needs antibiotics. Thankfully she has only been on antibiotics 3X in her life so it should kick in quickly if it is prescribed for her. Why is it that no matter what.... we think the worse. My knee jerk re-action was ......yep you guessed it.....BRAIN TUMOUR!

I gotta get a grip

Some days it is just not worth chewing through the leather restraints!!

I'll wait until she wakes up....then off to the clinic we go.......

((((Hugs)))))
Dottie

Dear Squigs
I want her to have a full head x-ray taken.......because although a prescription of antibiotics will help ( I think/hope and pray) I want to find the true source of this pain.
(((Hugs)))
Dottie

Oh poor Dottie - I'm sure it's nothing serious but I understand how you worry (as a fellow HA sufferer with kids). As far as I have heard, Brain Tumours are usually associated with blackouts, fits, dizzy smells and funny smells, not pain in the middle of the face. This sounds like probably sinusitis or neuralgia. Not nice for you to see her in pain though...

Listen : SHE's GONNA BE OK, Ok Dots? ((((((Mega-Hugs)))))) to you!

Dot - Lifelong sinus sufferer here! What works best for me is moist heat applied directly to the sinus (like a really hot washcloth) and decongestants....There is also a product here called mucinex which is a mucas thinner....that and 3 Advil usually do the trick....poor baby....I do feel her pain!

Dont diagnose these things yourself. If she's waking you up crying in pain, it could be for any number of reasons. Get her to the clinic asap, dottie.

Just wanted to mention two things:

1. Could it be dental related? Sometimes facial pain can be related to a dental problem.

2. If the pain was sharp and shooting, you may want to do some research on Trigeminal Neuralgia. It doesn't usually affect someone that young, but occasionally it does, and your description of " shooting" made me thnk of it. There are meds for that particular type of pain.

Hope you get some answers

Dear Crazy In Ca Yes I agree in regard to the hot washcloth......but washcloths never stay hot for long so I heated up a beanbag for her. I am going to check into 'mucinex' and see if I can find something similar to that here. Thanks for your help...really appreciate it

Dear EP............I know hun......and you know that I am the first to tell people to NOT google thier symptoms. I learned THAT lesson a long time ago. It was more of a 'knee jerk' reaction than anything else.

Dear Dawn
My sentiments exactly!! I also thought that it may be dental. I asked her if it felt like shards of glass in her cheek......she told me it felt more like a throbbing....sharp yet dull.....pain. She was in so much pain and as you know it is always difficult to describe the severe pain when you are in the throes of experiencing it.
Dear Squiggle....you are ohh so right...she is gonna be ok She scared the Beejebbers out of me though.

She is sound asleep now.....the weeee munchkin. While I am wide awake......thinking......


As soon as she wakes up I am going to take her to the clinic. She wont like that at all......but she will have to do what Mama says......thanks SOOO Much for all your responses......I have 'calmed' down considerably because of your helpful suggestions.

((((((HUGS))))))
Dottie

When I have trouble with my sinuses I drink alot of hot liquids--hot apple cider works for me. Hot steamy showers and menthol cough drops. Also...and your gonna laugh at me, massaging the toes and fingertips. I learned this through reflexology. Also applying pressure to the brow area and cheek bones. My chiro does this when I'm having sinus problems.
And of course a good decongestant and Ibuprofen. But most importantly PUSH FLUIDS!!!!

Please don't think I'm wacko...it does work!

hugs to you and your daughter

Anna

Good idea Dot...take her to the clinic as soon as possible.

Let us know how she is.

Hugs,
Karen

Oh Dot I am so sorry!! It is so hard to see your kids in pain. Your best bet is to see doctor. I.m thinking maybe she needs antibiotic. Hugs to you and her.Did she try drinking a cup of hot tea or steaming up the shower? Hope she feels better soon!!!

yes, I would also get her to a walk in clinic or er asap....usually pain that comes on so intensely and quickly is not sinus related.

Hope this helps
Lisa

yes, I would also get her to a walk in clinic or er asap....usually pain that comes on so intensely and quickly is not sinus related.

Hope this helps. Also don't give her any advil or any pain meds until she is seen..it will just mask the symptoms and they won't be able to figure out what it is

Lisa

Dear Anna
I will always think you are a 'wacko' but you are in good company Present company included ofcourse ......I think I may be the Queen Wacko but given where I am......I have a lot of competition for that title......ha ha ha
My daughter always loves having her feet and fingers massaged.....who doesn't? But as I recall.....when I had reflexolgy.....they were VERY hard and brutal to me....I am not talking gentle massage here....I wm talking pure torture. I only lasted for three sessions until I realized I could not take the pain that I was 'paying' an arm and a leg for ....(pun intended)

I just checked in on her....she is awake...albiet sleepy.....so I am going to take your advise Anna.....and massage her brow, her cheek (ever so gently) and massage her feet and fingertips.
((((Hugs))))
Dottie


((((Liz))))I am just about to make her a nice hot cup of tea and after I massage her I am going to get her to take a nice long hot shower. Thanks for your concern

NurseLisa
She has had bouts of sinus problems before.....just never this bad. Truly I think it is a very bad case of sinusitus......infected.....and painful. But since I am not a Doctor......I will wait and see what the Doc says.............

I'll keep you all posted.....and thanks SOOO much for your help this morning.
Really means a LOT to me.
Dottie

Dottie:

I am guessing that your daughter is probably having sinus issues. You said the pain was on the left side of her face. Where exactly is the pain?? Does she still have her wisdom teeth? The only reason I ask is because my son was having terrible facial pain several years ago. After a call to his doctor (who was useless), a trip to the ER (while we were out of town and evacuated for a hurricane), and a trip to an oral surgeon we discovered that one of his wisdom teeth was growing in side ways and under another tooth. We were totally unaware of just how serious this was because he was having to take Viacodin after having shoulder surgery due to an ATV accident. (Yeah...it was a really fun time!!!). So, though it was not obvious that the pain was coming from the tooth, the pain was bad in his jaw and chin. They found that because of the tooth situation, there was a cyst growing around it that was eating through his jaw bone. If we had waited much longer, his jaw would probably have broken. I personally have never heard of anything like this before, but whenever I hear of a young person having facial pain, I mention this.

It ended up the the cyst was benign (trust me when I say I cried and worried about other possibilities for 10 straight days) but it nonetheless ended up being a very painful situation.

Again, I doubt this is the problem with your daughter, but I thought I would make you aware in case you had never heard of this before.

Shakin'

Hiya Dotsy - Pulease do not worry too much about your dear daughter. Easier said than done though of course. You are a typical mommy to me to fear the worst. Lord knows I do. Please take comfort in that DD is sleeping and at peace right now whilst you are up and crazed haha. When this is all over, re-read this thread - even under stress you are really funny honey!

Hang in there,
Love
Suz
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Hya Shakin'
I was cringing while I read your post......I can only well imagine the thoughts that were creeping into your head while your son and YOU, went through those 10 days of torment and pain. A hurricane - Shoulder Surgery - an accident - then finding out that your son had a cyst growing over an impacted wisdom tooth....HOLY SMOKES WOMAN!! (((((((Shakin'))))))


We just got back from the Dr's. My daughter has been prescibed antibitoitics for a severe case of sinusitus (WHEW - - wiping brow) In the meantime I have booked her and I ....an appointment with our dentist......time for our bi-yearly check up anyway. I want the dentist to do that x-ray that x-rays her entire head. You know the one I mean....where you sit in the chair and the machine slowly goes around your head. Just to be on the safe side

Thank you ((((((ALL)))))) SO much for ALL your support, guidance, kind words, and caring vibes....what would I ever do without you? Don't EVEN wanna know!!
Dottie

SUZ!! Heya Kiddo

I am fine now....had my early panic attack....a day without 'panic' is like a day without hotflashes....right? shesh!! .....while we were getting her prescription filled.....I noticed a pamphlet on Menopause so I just had to take a looksies. I was pleasantly surprised that they had all the 'correct' information written in a clear and concise manner. The small brochure even included some information on 'natural remedies' . My-My-My we HAVE come a long way haven't we?

Methinks it is time for this Meno-Mama to have an afternoon nap.

Thanks again.................

Dottie

Hi Dot,
I've been following your posts all day. I'm so glad that you got a diagnosis and that she is on her way to feeling better.
I know how it is......I always feared the worse with my kids too.

I have been going through the same thing this past week and was also diagnosed with a bad sinus infection. It is making the rounds here.
The pain was horrendous and it lasted for a few days.
Hope she is better soon.
Hugs,
Arla.

Hi Dot,
Ive just read the post about your daughter. The poor thing.

I hope she gets better soon. Keep us updated to let us know how shes going.

Take care from Deb.

Oh Dottie,

I know I am late in reading this. I cannot even imagine how it must have felt to wake up with your baby crying and in such pain, but I'm glad you were able to get her in to see a dr. and hopefully she is on the road to recovery.

I believe that when our babies hurt, we feel their pain 10 fold and when we don't know what is wrong, it is so easy to think the very worst.

Aren't you glad she was home when this happened and you could be there to care for her?

I hope she feels well very soon.

Love,

bev

Dot, I'm glad your daughter is feeling better and now know what is causing the pain. I know how it is when our grown-up babies hurt, there is no peace until we know everything is okay!
Wishing you and your daughter much love and peace.

Hugs!
Jalyn

Dottie,

I am so glad everything is ok, relatively speaking! That it isn't serious, and is being treated. You take it easy yourself, after stress like that we tend to feel pretty exhausted.

Sending you calm and loving thoughts.

Hugs
Floater

My Dear Sweet Dot I'm so glad to hear that your daughter is o.k. My daughter use to have that alot and it would be so bad it would get into her tooth and she would cry... So I know how you feel.. Big Hugs To You Dot and Many hugs to your precious Daughter.



((((Dot)))
sdblue

Thanks everyone for your generous love, and healing thoughts.

My daughter slept through the night and is sleeping as I type this......... she felt better last night but it is always the morning when she feels her worse (fingers, knees and toes crossed).......I know it was just sinusitis......but I can't help but think.....how vulnerable we all are. Life can turn on a dime.....I MUST enjoy and LIVE each day as though it were my last.

SHESH!!.....I am SOO dramatic!!!

Thanks for all your well wishes.......
Arla ... I am SO sorry that you are suffering with this pain. Sending healing vibes your way \\\\\ ///// <~~ My pathetic attempt at an angel...have no energy to get colourful this morning.
Lostnut ... You are a sweetie
Tidal ... Yes I was thinking the same thing....thank goodness she was home and not at university. Sweet of you to respond when I know you are going through a difficult time yourself.
Jalyn ... Thank you my friend
Floater ... it amazes me that something relatively small could have had me so riled up
Blue .... Thanks sweetie......this pales in comparison with what happened to your dear son.

I feel wiped.

So silly really
Dottie

Big, big hugs sweet Dottie!
I'm so glad your daughter is recovering!
Look after yourself also!
Jonie

~~ An update ~~

My daughter finished her 10 day round of antibiotics. While she was on her medication she felt so much better. Within 3 days of finishing her round of meds she was back to having horrible headaches.

She went to her doctor and told him everything that had transpired in the past month.

He has ordered a slew of bloodwork and a catscan. He feels it could be 'neuroligical'. You hear the word 'neurological' and immediatly think...brain tumour....she was frightenned and confused. I have calmed her down and told her that he is just being very thorough (which is true...this guy IS thorough) Her paternal grandmother is the Queen of Hypocondriacs and I do NOT want her to follow in her ...I stubbed my toe do you think it will need to be amputated?.... footsteps.

My daughter has enough trying to avoid following MY footsteps

Anyway..... If you could, if you have some time......would you mind terribly including my daughter in your ~~ healing good vibes......
Thanks ever so much.
Dottie
P.S.
As of this evening....my BIL is back in the ER....long story short...after his knee replacement two weeks ago...he has suffered severe complications due to his Crigler Disease. He is in bad shape as well.

Waiting for the other shoe to drop..... think I may just go bare foot to be on the safe side
Dottie

Awwww Dottie what is it with this time of year. It seems like everyone is in a spot of bother at the moment. I am sending you my mostest bestest healing vibes I can conjure up at this very precise moment for you, your daughter and your family member who need it right now.

Keep the faith Dottie, you are the strong one that we all depend on, maybe just a little too much sometimes so I am giving some back now

Kia kaha Dottie

Rox

Dear (((Dottie)))
Trouble never comes on it's own...
Many prayers and good wishes for your daughter and for your BIL!
And for you many, many hugs and may you be blessed with strength!
Jonie

Does neuralgia count as neurological Dottie - just remembered that i posted this to you. Nerve pain. Unpleasant but innocent enough. So sorry your daughter is still suffering.

(((DOTTIE)))

So sorry to hear your daughter is back to the head pain... poor thing.
Where she was able to get some relief from the pain while on antibiotics, I'd assume that's a very good sign? Clearly whatever's going on is related to infection?

(((HUGE HUGS))) to you and your girl, Sweetie.

Praying, too, that your BIL is okay...

Much love,
JJ

Dear Roxie -- I shall continue to keep the 'faith' ....Love the 'faith'
Dear Jonie -- Thank you for your thoughts and sentiments.
Dear Squiggle -- Oh wise one!! You are right and I had infact forgotten your sage comment....thanks

Dear JJ -- My daughter just left with friends to celebrate Canada Day in Ottawa. Apparently celebrating this day with parents is just not 'cool' She has a headache but thankfully with her sights on a..... fun four day festival ...her headache is taking a second seat. Isn't it amazing how the mind works.........She was relief free the whole time she was on meds...which I agree is an excellent sign. I also think that having a catscan will determine IF it is sinus related or a pinched nerve....or something equally benign.


In the meantime...my husband has just rushed off to the hospital as his brother is 'unresponsive'. I am going to drive down there momentarily. My husband does NOT handle stress very well. (that is quite the understatement) This is a common side effect with his dreaded disease.....what I must do is educate the Doctors about his Crigler Disease and get the proverbial ball rolling. I am the advocate and 'advocate' I shall!! My dear SIL is a nurse but is too emotional ...understandable given the circumstances. My BIL has a rare form of liver disease that MUST be watched VERY carefully. Unfortunatley the medical Dr's that replaced his knee did not keep up with his Drs who monitor this disease. Typical example of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing.

Off I go to get the.... hands working together and to calm my family.

Thank you for your kind and generous luvin vibes.

Dottie

((((((((Dottie)))))))))))))

Sending healing vibes for you daughter....and your BIL...saying a prayer for all.

Please keep us updated....if I can be of help in any way to you, please know that I am here.

Hugs,
Karen

((((((((Dot)))))))) and (((((((((((DD))))))))))

I did not see this post until just now, I rarely ever check this board.

I'm thinking of you and I'm going to call you tomorrow. I would call you right now but I don't want to disturb you and your family on the weekend.

Thinking of you and your daughter,
((((((Hugs)))))))
Karen

Oh Dottie - I am sending my biggest, warmest, most reassuring hugs to you and your daughter and prayers for your BIL too! Please reach out if you need anything - with love - Pookish

Dot,
I am so sorry that your daughter is not feeling well again. I'd have to agree that as the pain was responsive to the antibiotics that this would be a good sign.
I hope your BIL makes a full recovery also.
I'm sending positive thoughts to both.
Hugs,
Arla.

Helloooooo
A quick update on my daughter......

She had her Catscan on Monday. Quite the fascinating piece of machinery. I couldn't actually be with her while she had her scan ....which by the way lasted about 5 minutes (if that)....but it was cool to actually see a catscan machine. Kar4242 cracked me up in chat before my DD"s scan. She told me that if it was her head the scan wouldn't be very long......I couldn't stop LOLing over that remark.....when I told my DD....that it would be a very quick scan given that it was just her wee 'brain' she was NOT amused....more of a groan and .....geee mom could ya be more corny look!! KIDS!!....they have NO sense of humour!

Anyway......we will get the results sometime next week. She has aan appt with a neurolgist on the 12th of August.......but I think my Dr' is just being ever so thorough and it is nothing more than sinusitus.....psssstttttt...from her fathers side of the family. She only inherited GREAT things from MY side of the family

Thanks SOOO much for ALL your support and (((((HUGS))))) and luvin' good vibes.

You all mean SO much to me.

((((Wrapping my arms around each and everyone of you))))))
Dottie

Dot,

I had one of those, no wonder it was so quick
I'm sure everything will be just fine. I'm sure they would have contacted you if it was anything more serious.
I saw a neurologist for my headaches too (just to be sure) so I think it is your doctor just being thorough but that's a good thing.
Take care.
Hugs,
Arla.

Went to have my yearly eye exam today and mentioned to my optometrist that I have been experiencing sometimes red flashes for a few seconds and at other times green flashes for a few seconds. She asked me if I ever had migraines? I told her yes, like the kind where I was throwing up my toenails for at least eight to nine hours straight with extreme light and noise and odor sensitivity. She said that from she has known and understands is that the red and green flashes are a form of migraine even though there is no pain. Has anyone else heard of this?

Joe

Yes, I am one of those lucky ?????? ones who see lovely red and green flashes with migraines. I haven't really had the colours pain free but I have heard that it can happen. I have also seen lovely splashes of yellow at times. I saw a neurologist and had a CTscan and migraines was my diagnosis. Since crossing over into menopause about the only time I have a migraine is if I overindulge in red wine .

Dottie, thanks so much for the update. I've been wondering how she is doing. Keep us posted!

I don't see red and green, but I do see yellow/gold zigzag flashes in the shape of the letter "C." It starts as a small "c" and gradually grows to a big honker. It gets so big that after about 20 minutes it's outside of my field of vision.

I used to get the painful migraines, the kind where there's a little man stabbing my brain with a knife. For whatever reason, I haven't had one in about eight years, but the ocular migraines are a fairly new thing. Doesn't bother me.

Dottie: When you originally started this thread, I was out of the country, so I missed the goings-on with your DD...she is in my prayers and I hope that the results of the MRI are good. My own daughter has awful, debilitating migraines that scare me..so far she is dealing with using meds and just laying down in a dark room. Keep us posted, dear sister!

Dot,

Thanks for the update. I'm so glad I was able to amuse you...and I wasn't even trying. Anyway, please keep us posted at to the results.

Hugs,
Karen

Dot,

Have any doctors mentioned the possibility of trigeminal neuralgia? http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/trigemina...uralgia/DS00446

I am praying for your daughter for resolution and healing. Also, I do have yellow flashes from time to time. I thank the Lord for all of you here supporting each other. God Bless,

Joe

Dear (((((Sistahs of Da Surge)))))

My DD has her appointment today with the neuroligist......she had a full physical with our GP and she was found to be in perfect health (doing mee wee happy Dottie dance) However the inside of her left nostril was raw. The Dr suggested putting a wee bit of vaseline up there to ease her nosebleeds. I told her to stop doing drugs....KIDDING!!

In the meantime this Dr will have the catscan results.....I thought her GP would have them...but oopsies I was wrong.

I have bought her a slew of vitamins to help her with her bones, cold symptoms, all that jazz..........she has had fewer headaches and fewer nosebleeds......and I can't help but wonder if she may have some food allergies. She is watching out for side effects with known culprits....i.e. chocolate, pop, tomatoes.....She goes back to university on the 31st so clearly we would like to have this 'solved' before she heads back to school.

Being a parent is not for the 'weak'
We worry so much...no matter what the age of our 'babies'.

Thank you SOOOOO much for ALL your kind responses and your warm and healing vibes.

I love you all
Dottie