QUOTE (mydarling @ May 28 2008, 03:39 PM)

oh Bugaboo..lol....I know, this is absolutley awful! and i agree, i would take some other symptom, such as hot flashes, WAY BEFORE this urinary thing! THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE WORST..........SO FAR! this is the most bothersome, distracting, frightening, disturbing, life altering symtom i think i've had really.....and i've had so many bad ones, and yet, to be honest, this takes the cake! The feeling of constantly having to go is insane! i don't just feel it in my bladder, it's in the urethra too....do you feel it there too?
How many times a night do you get up to "go"? For me, probably about 4 times a night.....but, even still, i can come walking out of the bathroom, feel "ok" for a few moments, then that feeling is right there again! I have to lay on my side to make it better, and sort of curl myself up......I got that tip from my friend i told you about, whose lived with this or 20 years!
NO, it's not a UTI....i had a urinalysis on April 30th, and it's ok. I don't know anymore.......I THINK i had a MILD UTI....or maybe the same thing as you said.....where you THOUGHT you had one...but it wasn't....well, maybe that was me too, since i never really had any stinging or burning when i'd go.....just that ever present FULL BLADDER FEELING.......and i find it all to coincidental, that this whole bladder thing, started up, last month, when i was 2 weeks late for my period......coincidence? I don't think so....maybe hormonal. (plus, also remember, that FULL BLADDER feeling totally vanished, IMMEDIATLEY, the minute, literally, the VERY MINUTE i saw blood. when my period started) ..... which is why, when my dr. did the pelvic and urinalysis (on april 30th), he said, it could be hormonal, since it just VANISHED once i got my period.......and now, you're saying as well, that this time around the bicarb isn't helping, and that it's worse now, before your period.....see, doesn't this all sound hormonal related, or what?
YES, THE SS MENOPAUSE! .lol....

..... oh man, I feel like I'm ADRIFT out there somewhere, in the fog!
Oh, mydarling - you nailed it when you said it's "most bothersome, distracting, frightening, disturbing, life altering symptom"!!
It really is hellish!! I told my husband today to make an appointment for me with the urologist.
If I don't have a UTI, then I'll have to suffer with this crap, for gawd only knows how long. --- I don't have stinging or burning, either - my symptoms sound exactly like yours - FULL BLADDER FEELING, with a near-constant urge to go - like there's an open nerve down there, exposed to air or something.
YES, YES - it's the urethra! Not especially my bladder - nope, it's the urethra.
UTI's scare me. Last year - late winter/spring of '07 - I had a nasty UTI, but it was all in the urethra part. My internist missed it, so did my ob/gyn. Their urinalysis tests did not show anything unusual. However, after several weeks of agony, I went to my urologist (also my husband's urologist), and his test showed some white blood cells, and he promptly put me on Cipro. When I told him my urine had been tested by my internist, who found nothing wrong, the urologist said, "That's the trouble with internists." Hmmmm.
Well, anyhow, this stuff DOES alter a person's life. When I'm achey down there, like I am now, I cannot think of anything else, barely. How can I?? This constant aching drives me nuts, makes me cranky, depresses me, and really affects the way I feel.
The thought has crossed my mind that it could be IC (Interstitial Cystitis), but I don't think so. I really believe that hormonal changes affect the tissues down there -- things become thinner, more delicate, more suseptible to urine's acid, infections, etc. Of course, that WOULD be the peri/menopause symptom I would get!!! Like I said - and like you said - bring on the hot flashes, but PUH-lease take this urethral discomfort away!!!!
As to how many times I get up and go . . . well, it's been once a night - but wait, over the past two weeks, that's increased, seems like. I know there have been nights I've gotten up at least twice.
Geez, this is soooooo maddening. I really thought I was past all of this. But no, no, it's back with a vengeance. For example, I took my bicarb, went to the bathroom, then picked up my son from school. We then made a quick trip to Target. This is all a short drive from my house. I had to go, go, go when we got to Target. Matter of fact, I had to go when I picked up my son from school.
When things are like this for me, I really get depressed. I don't feel like doing anything. I don't feel like planning anything, etc.
I don't know how we're going to get through this, mydarling. The thing is - I, me, personally - am not willing to take HRT. I just am not going to do it. However, I do think I might start using a bioidentical progesterone cream. (Dr. Lee's book, "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause" is a good book, and I really think Dr. Lee knew what he was talking about.) That said, I really wish I didn't have to use anything. Some people have adverse reactions to progesterone, even in a cream. But, that might be because they've used too much, or their bodies just don't agree with it. I don't know, but I'm getting desperate over here. If the progesterone cream might help me, then I might try it - but I'll go by Dr. Lee's instructions, very carefully.
I hate all of this . . .