Aisha Rocher
Apr 28 2008, 05:55 PM
((((((My Power Surge Sisters))))))))
Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you.
"Honoring Our Parents." For some of us it's easier then others. My parents were very abusive when I was a child so for me it is quite challenging. What I found interesting is that God did not say Honor Thy Father and Mother only "IF" they were good parents or if they supplied all our needs, he said do it period so that your days may be long in the land! For the Ladies that find this a challenge, consider it a test of your ability to forgive and live a life that is wholesome and that glorifys God and that edifys our spirit. Some things are easier said then done but noone ever said life was easy as we all know living with Peri! Be Blessed Ladies!!
Blessings,
Aisha
paula1954
Apr 28 2008, 06:15 PM
QUOTE (Aisha Rocher @ Apr 28 2008, 04:55 PM)

((((((My Power Surge Sisters))))))))
Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you.
Today in my Daily Devotion, the topic was "Honoring Our Parents", For some of us it's easier then others. My parents were very abusive when I was a child so for me it is quite challenging. What I found interesting is that God did not say Honor Thy Father and Mother only "IF" they were good parents or if they supplied all our needs, he said do it period so that your days may be long in the land! For the Ladies that find this a challenge, consider it a test of your ability to forgive and live a life that is wholesome and that glorifys God and that edifys our spirit. Some things are easier said then done but noone ever said life was easy as we all know living with Peri! Be Blessed Ladies!!
Blessings,
Aisha
I was blessed with the most wonderful, loving, giving, parents in the world. I feel like I honor them everyday. My Mom passed away one year ago (May 1st) and my Dad is in a nursing home still coping with her death. I feel like all my children honor me as well, and I thank God for them.
Aisha Rocher
Apr 28 2008, 07:01 PM
QUOTE (paula1954 @ Apr 28 2008, 06:15 PM)

I was blessed with the most wonderful, loving, giving, parents in the world. I feel like I honor them everyday. My Mom passed away one year ago (May 1st) and my Dad is in a nursing home still coping with her death. I feel like all my children honor me as well, and I thank God for them.

(((((Paula))))))
You are truly blessed to have wonderful parents! God Bless You!
Blessings,
Aisha
CarolH
Apr 29 2008, 08:09 AM
Aisha, Thank you for your post. I too was blessed with wonderful parents and grandparents.. Now it's my turn to be a parent and grandparent. I hope I can conduct myself in a way that will make it easy for them to say the same about me.
Blessings,
Armadillo
Apr 29 2008, 09:38 AM
QUOTE (Aisha Rocher @ Apr 28 2008, 07:01 PM)

(((((Paula))))))
You are truly blessed to have wonderful parents! God Bless You!
Blessings,
Aisha
Yes, it is a wonderful blessing. My parents died when I was young.
I never got to know them as adults.
I never got to thank them for the sacrifices they made for me.
I never got to tell them "I love you."
Dotcalm2u
Apr 29 2008, 09:57 AM
Interesting post...especially for those with abusive parents and for those who are not believers of your bible."Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you". Why do you assume that this is everyones god?
I have no problem with 'honouring parents' as long as they provide the care, the love, the support and the essentials of the responsiblities that they decided to take when they chose to have children. I do not believe that if a parent is sexually abusive they should be....'honoured' Case in point is the father who locked up his daughter for close to 25 years in a basement.....and proceeded to rape her continously ...thereby fathering 6 children with his poor daughter. Do you REALLY think that this woman.....should 'honour' her parent (father)?
I think your sentiments albiet sweet.... are misguided and based on a religious point in A bible that does not apply to ALL Sisters of Surge. It certainly does NOT apply to me.
I honour my nother deeply...BECAUSE she provided me with an outstanding education, taught me well....was loving and worked darn hard to provide a roof over my head. THAT is why I Honour her....not because of 'a bible'.
Repectfully
Dottie
Anna
Apr 29 2008, 10:13 AM
I was close to both of my parents. Thye divorced when I was an adolescent, but I spent as much time as possible with both. Dad has been gone over 25 years now, and Mom just four. I make frequent visits to the cemetary which is just a short distance from my home.
In growing up we always having those trying times with parents, but I always remained close to atleast one of them. Sure they weren't the perfect parents, but I did and do love and respect them.
This is a little off the subject, but shortly it will be Mother's Day for those of you in the U.S. Where ever you go it seems there are sign about Mother's Day and in most publications. This is really depressing...I hate Mothers Day!!! And Fathers Day for that matter. Fathers Day doesnt seem to effect me near as much though. Those of you who still have your parents...treasure them-someday they won't be there...
Sorry didn't mean to drag everyone down...just venting.
hugs all
Anna
Armadillo
Apr 29 2008, 12:15 PM
QUOTE (Dotcalm2u @ Apr 29 2008, 09:57 AM)

I think your sentiments albiet sweet.... are misguided and based on a religious point in A bible that does not apply to ALL Sisters of Surge. It certainly does NOT apply to me.
Repectfully
Dottie
Being an International Community of women here on PS, we all need to keep a GLOBAL perspective.
We are many races, cultures and beliefs here, and diversity is our strength, and understanding and support is our goal.
I sometimes forget this myself, even though I strive for tolerance, I know my words can be unsettling, and for this I am truly apologetic to those I have offended.
Aisha Rocher
Apr 29 2008, 12:54 PM
QUOTE (Dotcalm2u @ Apr 29 2008, 09:57 AM)

Interesting post...especially for those with abusive parents and for those who are not believers of your bible."Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you". Why do you assume that this is everyones god?
I have no problem with 'honouring parents' as long as they provide the care, the love, the support and the essentials of the responsiblities that they decided to take when they chose to have children. I do not believe that if a parent is sexually abusive they should be....'honoured' Case in point is the father who locked up his daughter for close to 25 years in a basement.....and proceeded to rape her continously ...thereby fathering 6 children with his poor daughter. Do you REALLY think that this woman.....should 'honour' her parent (father)?
I think your sentiments albiet sweet.... are misguided and based on a religious point in A bible that does not apply to ALL Sisters of Surge. It certainly does NOT apply to me.
I honour my nother deeply...BECAUSE she provided me with an outstanding education, taught me well....was loving and worked darn hard to provide a roof over my head. THAT is why I Honour her....not because of 'a bible'.
Repectfully
Dottie
Hello Dottie,
I agree with you on cases of abuse, by no means am I condoning abuse, I was also sexually abused as a child . Forgiveness doesn't do anything for my parents that abused me but it does me a world of good. It's about self liberation. I personally don't have a relationship with my parents not because I don't choose too it's actually the other way around. But in my heart I'm free. I still pray for them and honor them though I will never forget what they did.
I realize that not everyone on the board believes in God and I respect that. If this message does not speak to you on a personal level then dont take anything from it. Leave it at the door. In no way when I reference my God is to imply that it is everyone's God. Nor was I trying to offend anyone elses beliefs. But if just one person can receive a positive experience from my post it is worth it and it certainly gives us something to think about.
I'm happy that you had a wonderful parent to honor thats more then alot of people have :-) Have a great day!
Sincerely,
Aisha
RoundRobin
Apr 29 2008, 12:57 PM
I have a tough time with this one...the thought of 'honoring' my mother..after all the damage she did to me....well, it's hard. I can forgive her, and I have. But "honor?" That's going to be difficult...
Aisha Rocher
Apr 29 2008, 01:01 PM
QUOTE (CarolH @ Apr 29 2008, 08:09 AM)

Aisha, Thank you for your post. I too was blessed with wonderful parents and grandparents.. Now it's my turn to be a parent and grandparent. I hope I can conduct myself in a way that will make it easy for them to say the same about me.
Blessings,
Hello Carol,
It's wonderful to hear that you have a fantastic parents :-) I'm sure you are a wonderful Mother and that you will be a fantastic Grandmother too :-) God Bless You!
Blessings,
Aisha
Aisha Rocher
Apr 29 2008, 01:06 PM
QUOTE (Anna @ Apr 29 2008, 10:13 AM)

I was close to both of my parents. Thye divorced when I was an adolescent, but I spent as much time as possible with both. Dad has been gone over 25 years now, and Mom just four. I make frequent visits to the cemetary which is just a short distance from my home.
In growing up we always having those trying times with parents, but I always remained close to atleast one of them. Sure they weren't the perfect parents, but I did and do love and respect them.
This is a little off the subject, but shortly it will be Mother's Day for those of you in the U.S. Where ever you go it seems there are sign about Mother's Day and in most publications. This is really depressing...I hate Mothers Day!!! And Fathers Day for that matter. Fathers Day doesnt seem to effect me near as much though. Those of you who still have your parents...treasure them-someday they won't be there...
Sorry didn't mean to drag everyone down...just venting.
hugs all
Anna
(((Anna)))))
Big Hugs to you! I'm so sorry that that Mothers and Fathers days are tough on you, I can certainly relate. Fathers Day is very tough for me but on MOther's day I celebrate my children :-) so it makes it a little easier. I'm sending you peace and comfort. God Bless You Anna.
Blessings,
Aisha
Aisha Rocher
Apr 29 2008, 01:09 PM
QUOTE (Armadillo @ Apr 29 2008, 09:38 AM)

Yes, it is a wonderful blessing. My parents died when I was young.
I never got to know them as adults.
I never got to thank them for the sacrifices they made for me.
I never got to tell them "I love you."
((((Armadillo))))))
Your post broke my heart, I wish it could have been different for you and that you had some solance in knowing them. I'm sure they loved you dearly.
Blessings,
Aisha
Aisha Rocher
Apr 29 2008, 01:13 PM
QUOTE (Armadillo @ Apr 29 2008, 12:15 PM)

Being an International Community of women here on PS, we all need to keep a GLOBAL perspective.
We are many races, cultures and beliefs here, and diversity is our strength, and understanding and support is our goal.
I sometimes forget this myself, even though I strive for tolerance, I know my words can be unsettling, and for this I am truly apologetic to those I have offended.
Armadillo,
I agree with you and by no means was I trying to exclude anyone based on beliefs. I certainly respect everyones right to choose their spiritual path if any. Forgive me if I offended. Have a great day.
Blessings,
Aisha
Dotcalm2u
Apr 29 2008, 08:35 PM
QUOTE (Armadillo @ Apr 29 2008, 12:15 PM)

Being an International Community of women here on PS, we all need to keep a GLOBAL perspective.
We are many races, cultures and beliefs here, and diversity is our strength, and understanding and support is our goal.
I sometimes forget this myself, even though I strive for tolerance, I know my words can be unsettling, and for this I am truly apologetic to those I have offended.
Dear

Armadillo

You did not offend me whatsoever. No-one on this thread has offended me at all...............I was and am.....sharing my point of view on 'honouring' .....without question..... our parents. My mother taught me that everyone
needs to gain 'respect' it is not something that is 'owed'.
I never honoured my father......I forgave him.....but I did not 'honour him...as the man had NO honour.
Speaking of 'owed' I am 'owed'....a good night sleep......worked another looong day and once again this Meno-Mama is fried!!
((((Hugs)))))
Dottie
Armadillo
Apr 30 2008, 10:13 AM
QUOTE (Dotcalm2u @ Apr 29 2008, 08:35 PM)

I never honoured my father......I forgave him.....but I did not 'honour him...as the man had NO honour.
I think that forgiveness is the hardest thing in the world to do.
Personally, I have never done it. I harbor bitter resentment inside myself toward the few people who did me wrong. I am civil and polite to them, but inside, I am still seething with anger and hurt, and find myself constantly wishing them ten times the harm they did to me. I know that this is probably killing me, but I hold my anger inside forever. I fantasize about doing bad things to them in return, and this gives me a perverse sense of power and relief.
But forgiveness? I am incapable of it. Anyone who can forgive is a saint in my book, and has a heart of gold. I am much too selfish to forgive, and have too much evil and hatred in my soul.
frisbee293
Apr 30 2008, 10:52 AM
I agree that it is difficult to forgive. I had a very difficult childhood, spent many years working to support my dysfunctional parents and keep their home over their heads, and I think the only real peace I found was when I lived on my own for a few years and focused on my work. It was the most productive time of my life, it seems. I was focused at work, had my own apartment, and for once I focused on friends instead of my dysfunctional parents. I got married and had children, and shortly after my mother needed tons of physical help, so much of my life has been involved with hospital visits, caretaking, and the financial need of my parents, while my siblings looked the other way. I accepted my parents shortcomings and dealt with them, but I have a very hard time dealing with my siblings. I've often thought of the "Honor thy parents" quote. For whatever reasons I continued to honor them throughout their lives, even though neither one had any real interest in their children. I recently had a dream that I was kidnapped and my mother refused to pay the ranson money. I'm quite sure if that happened when I was younger (not that they had money), but I don't think my mother would have gone out of her way to get me back. I told my husband about the dream and we laughed about it, but I feel my entire past was very tragic. So I guess I have mixed feelings about honoring parents, especially when they make it pretty clear to their children over and over again they would have been much happier if they hadn't had them. Do they deserve to be honored? I'm really not sure.
Frisbee
Duch
Apr 30 2008, 03:02 PM
QUOTE (Armadillo @ Apr 30 2008, 07:13 AM)

I think that forgiveness is the hardest thing in the world to do.
Here, here. I have known a turgid person or two too. Even though I can explain their behaviour, understand why they acted as they did, I still have a hard time with it. This voice in my head keeps chanting, "Who was the (expletive deleted) adult in charge (at the time)?"
It wasn't me.
Dotcalm2u
Apr 30 2008, 08:50 PM
QUOTE (Armadillo @ Apr 30 2008, 10:13 AM)

But forgiveness? I am incapable of it. Anyone who can forgive is a saint in my book, and has a heart of gold. I am much too selfish to forgive, and have too much evil and hatred in my soul.
I DISAGREE WITH YOU ARMADILLO!! You are NOT...'selfish' you have been here for far too many Surge Sistahs.....in your darkest of hours. Selfish? You? NOPE! NADA! NIEN!

Dottie
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