hi all,

I recently posted about having lost weight and inches, and i do think it's from peri, i also think it's from the coconut oil i take a few times a day, which by the way, is GREAT STUFF! google it...it's amazing what it does for you. I"ve been taking it now for almost two months, and it really is marvelous. ... it also helps you loose weight, regardless of what you eat, I am a living testimony! you DO have to get the Extra Virgin, Unrefined, Organic Coconut oil, however. It usually costs about 20.00 or so, but it's worth it, you get a fairly good sized jar.

But, the thing is....since loosing this weight, i have lost weight in my face as well. Now, at first you might say, "oh how wonderful", yes, and no. This is making me look like my face is drooping, sagging, OLDER! UGH!
I noticed this probably about 6 mos. ago, and taht was BEFORE the coconut oil, yeah, i just started to sort of DROOP..lol
THIS STINKS! i feel like i look so much older, and drawn. Does anyone here have this? I remember my mother, when she was in her late forties, sort of looking like this. And a dear friend of mine who is in peri, she is 51, also has begun to have this face "drooping" thingy, her cheeks are sunken in, it just looks crummy, and OLD! (my worst fear!..lol)

I don't iknow, just wanted to vent this i guess, and find out if anyone else here seems to be dealing with this.

Peace to all..................MyDarling

i know... and my neck too... i lost heaps of weight last year and despaired when i realised how old all that loose saggy skin made me look... i started having sessions on a Power Plate machine at my gym, one of the benefits of this machine is that it tightens skin, to quote from powerplate.com (look it up!) 'they also help increase flexibility and range of motion while stimulating the production of collagen, creating tighter, more beautiful skin.' it works!! my neck has tightened up, and my face looks better.. i love the Power Plate....

The only remedy I know for the droopy face (other than going under the knife) is to smile!! Seriously, try it in the mirror. Do you 'regular' face and then smile. Things seem to lift up a bit. So we can walk around with a perpetual silly grin on our face!!

It is hard to see the physical changes, though, huh? I have such mixed feeling about face work. If I could afford it, would I have it done? There are several posts about the subject. But for me is irrelevant, because it's so expensive. Soooooo
keep smilin'!
Adair

Same deal here. I lost weight and there went the face. Now, instead of seeing my mother look back at me from the mirror in the morning, I see my grandmother. Yikes! Anyway I use coconut oil regularly in my diet too, and also apply it to my neck, which I believe did help with the droopiness there considerably. Good thing we are beautiful on the inside, huh?

Same here, too. Saggy jowls and dropping skin above the eyes. I have been doing facial exercises and they have helped with the double chin and I have seen a little bit of improvement in my eyes. Does anyone else do facial exercises?
MaryB26

Hi Ladies,

I'm starting to notice this sagging too. My forehead seems to be the worst affected. I can only put this down to the constant misery and suffering I am going through right now, and squinting to see a lot of the time - can't stand my glasses. Guess Im going to have to grow a long fringe to cover it up. I hate frown marks they make you look so angry. Still I guess that is fitting cause I do suffer from a lot of rage these days. Anyone know any facial exercises for frown lines.

Also noticing my neck is starting to look tortoise like - I hate that look.

I'll take some facial exercises too! Anyone know some?

Hi HelenNIrv,
If you do a google search for "natural face lift" there are lots of sources out there. If you go to the library you could possible get an interlibrary loan instead of buying a book. I have been doing the facial exercises since November 07. I take a few minutes in the morning to do them before I apply my makeup. They have helped somewhat but not dramatically. I am still contemplating having my eyelids lifted surgically.
MaryB26

well my face has been doing the sag but instead of losing weight, I have gained weight - so I wonder what it would do if I actually lost weight? I am afraid to find that out, but I still need to lose weight:)

hi ladies,

yeah, my neck too....and then, the jowls (sp?)..lol...oh dear! this is terrible...and i feel like i look so much older! That REALLY bothers me! I don't want to look old!!!!! My mother was the same way..lol....she always took such good care of herself, and never wanted to look old, and she didn't! I am the same way, i dont' want to look OLD! lol ... i know that may sound vain, but it's not really, i think it's more of a FEAR of getting old. I dont' know..... i see some old women, who look OLD, haggard, nearly dead.....and then, i see other "old" women, who look really good! Well, this isn't just about looks really, it's about getting older,,,,I don't feel like giving in! As far as I"m concerned....I'm 29! .. lol...now, i just have to get my body to agree with that!


as far as facial exercises,,,,i've tried them, for me, they don't work. This sagging nonsense stinks, and it happened rather quickly,,,it didnt' just build up over the last few years....it happened within the last year!!!!! is that how it happened with you guys too?

quote name = Simba 2 date = March 8th 2008

I wholeheartedly sympathise with all of you ladies. Within a couple of months of my last period, the fat just seemed to melt off me. This was quite alarming, what with all of the other symptoms, I really thought something was terribly wrong. I dont seem to have any fat under my skin anymore, which obviously used to plump it up. I felt I looked quite haggard and I seemed to age about ten years in a matter of months! It is really puzzling why some women seem to put fat on while others lose it. Obviously hormones. My facial skin has sagged and dried and my neck has aged without that subcutaneous fat also my hair has gone very fine. I sound like Grandma in the Dinosaurs series but not quite ready for the afterlife yet!

How do you use th coconut oil? Just in your cooking or do you actually take like a teaspoon a day or something. Just curious.

Thanks

Mopsy

hi mopsy and everyone...

the coconut oil is GREAT! yes, you can use it in your cooking, it's MUCH better for you than the veg. oils!!!! I use it on my face, my hair, anywhere really.....it totally moisturizes you, and since skin is pourous, it sinks into your skin, and helps eliminate the fat under the skin .... now, if you're going to take it orally, which i do too, you can take a few teaspoons a day, i put it in my tea....I also add, organic,raw, unrefined honey, with the comb still in it,,that way you get the royal jelly as well. (and we all know how good that is for you!). The ORGANIC, UNREFINED, EXTRA VIRGIN cold pressed coconut oil, is really great stuff, and it has so many many health benefits .. just google it! You can buy it online, but you can also buy it at your local health food store,,,NOT a GNC type store, i mean a real privately owned health food store, NOT A CHAIN store...where the young guys behind the counter don't know diddly squat about health foods....go to a real health food store...they usually carry it. You'll start to notice a diff. fairly soon ..... each person is diff., but you'll prob. notice a change in your "figure" within a few weeks....just keep taking it. I usually have a teaspoon in my tea in the morning, and afternoon, and evening....but you can have up to 5 teaspoons a day if you like, and you can cook with it, which i just mentioned.

i'm rubbing it on my neck now, in hopes, it'll take off the fat there too, and maybe, if i'm lucky, tighten up the jowls! lol

no way.

coconut oil is supposed to be good for you now, i've even seen palm oil touted as being good for you... they are both still saturated fats. i'd still be wary of eating a lot of it.

The whole face sagging thing is alarming whether from weight loss or not. I think collegan starts to break down at a fast clip during peri and especially meno. I haven't had a period in over 7 months (the longest stretch) and I've noticed the following distressing symptoms: jowls "suddenly" appearing, lips disappearing over night and dry skin all over my body in spite of slathering lotion on it every morning.

i met a woman at a party saturday night, she is someone i hadn't seen in a long time... she was talking about her latest craze, a vibro plate machine, swore it helped her face and neck, and all over skin tone.. she wanted to tell everyone about it! just grinned like a mad woman when i chimed in on how the power plate machine has helped me...

you should all find one! give it a go!

Do you get muscle ache with it as you would from conventional exercise Zen?

not nearly as bad as when i was heaving weights around... i do feel it, but more a tiredness than an ache..

I was doing this Adair, then within the last month or so I noticed that when I smile, loads of crinkly lines form around my eyes and radiate outwards from the corners. This is a new development! So now I don't know whether to go for jowls or crinkly lines.

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh *runs out of thread screaming*

That's interesting. How often is it necessary to have a session on the machine to maintain results?

Zen
I have just started using Virgin Coconut Oil in cooking. (the "extra" bit in the title is marketing hype)
Here is a quote from one website: (its quicker to quote others than type it all out myself lol!)
"We’ve all had it drilled into us for years that there are different types of unsaturated fats which are good for us and that saturated fat is unhealthy. In fact the right kind of saturated fat is crucial to health from the cellular level upwards.

There are three kinds of saturated fats, short, medium and long chain. While there is evidence that short and long chain fatty acids are not good for us, there is a huge body of research which demonstrates the uniquely healthy nature of the medium chain fatty acid. Medium chain fatty acids are not easy to come by. Only palm kernel oil and coconut oil are widely available. Such fats, provided that they don’t comprise more than 25% of calorie intake, are transported directly to the liver where they are converted, like carbohydrate, into energy. Coconut oil has been referred to as “athlete’s food” for many years.

There is growing evidence that polyunsaturated fats are not as good for us as the seed oil growers have campaigned for us to believe. Sunflower, soya, rapeseed, and canola oils didn’t enter the human food-chain until the 1950s. Canola is such a smelly oil that it has to be de-odourised and the process hydrogenates the oil to about 5%. Hydrogenated oils are implicated in Alzheimer’s disease and other serious conditions.

PS to everyone I have joined the "saggy face" club too.. I look in the mirror and a strange 53 year old face looks back at me.. how did that happen? Surely I am not that old??? I too have lost weight recently and it is true that you sacrifice your face for your body....
Still.. such is life...... I am sure when I am 73 I will look back at my 53 year old pics and think how young I looked.. the same way I now look back at my young photos and think how thin I looked (I thought I was huge at the time!!!) shame we don't realise it at the time!

HUGS Lindy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

i have been having three sessions a week lately, i buy blocks of 12 for a discount.. i go back to heaving weights for a month or so and then have another power plate block.. i've done this three times now.. i know another woman there, who only does one session a week to maintain her levels, but she's been doing it for longer than i have now..

thanks Lindy... it is so hard to keep up with it all.. and it all seems to change from year to year as to what is good for us and what isn't..

Are there any X smokers who have noticed those little pucker lines near their lips that we were warned about? I hate those. I wish I had listened to my mom when I was younger. <sigh>

I use unrefined coconut oil melted and drizzled on my salads that are topped with mandarin oranges and raisins. Very good and tasty. And I use the refined coconut oil on my face and legs as moisturizer. No difference really, I just don't want the smell of the unrefined. But I have noticed that my face seems to look better. Well... some days it does. Some days not so much.

I would love to try one of those machines. Do you know if it's similar to doing plyometrics? Is it based on the same philosophy?

CarolH... i had to google for plyometric exercises, i had not heard of it before.. and no, it's not really similar to that at all.. even the disabled and the elderly can use the power plate machine without fear, whereas looking at the plyometric exercise, i would think a person would already have to have a level of fitness and flexiblility before starting.. the concept behind the power plate is contraction of muscle groups to strengthen and tone.. basically anyway! google power plate! (not allowed to post URLs here)