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Pattyfl
Hello Ladies:

I'm driving myself nuts. I can't seem to quit the obsessing about my health. I've talked about my heart anxieties in other post and I know I probably sounds like a lune. I know I went thru this years ago when I was actually sick and once things got better so did I. But now its back. Any sensation, ache or pain I have from my ribs to my throat are heart attack symptoms. Last nite I sat with this dull pain right in the middle of my chest, had no other symptoms and guess what yep it must be my heart. I tell myself, if it was a heart attack you would have died a thousand times. But do you think for one second my head is listening,,,,,, NO. What is it with this obsessing that comes on like this? Somedays I sail thru and then others its total craziness.

My next problem is these odd senations I get. I can be sitting here reading and feel this weird sensation lets say in my lower back, it slowly almost like a spasm move up my body thru my chest, my left arm my neck and into my head, give me this what I call, skull ache and then a few mins later its gone.

I think I'm so tired of my body not belonging to me I could scream. I have one other thing that is really eating at me. This anger thing. Something and people will make me so very angry. The one that bothers me most are people who need attention. You know the ones who have to be noticed at all times. The needy, clinging ones. OMG I could go on but it makes me nuts. Do any of you have this anger problem. Its so new to me, I'm starting to wonder if I am truly not certifiable.

We thnx so much for letting me vent and listening. Gosh who knows maybe after its read someone can snap thier finger and all this will stop.

Hugs,
Patty
dmar
QUOTE (Pattyfl @ Jan 19 2008, 09:20 PM) *
Hello Ladies:

I'm driving myself nuts. I can't seem to quit the obsessing about my health. I've talked about my heart anxieties in other post and I know I probably sounds like a lune. I know I went thru this years ago when I was actually sick and once things got better so did I. But now its back. Any sensation, ache or pain I have from my ribs to my throat are heart attack symptoms. Last nite I sat with this dull pain right in the middle of my chest, had no other symptoms and guess what yep it must be my heart. I tell myself, if it was a heart attack you would have died a thousand times. But do you think for one second my head is listening,,,,,, NO. What is it with this obsessing that comes on like this? Somedays I sail thru and then others its total craziness.

My next problem is these odd senations I get. I can be sitting here reading and feel this weird sensation lets say in my lower back, it slowly almost like a spasm move up my body thru my chest, my left arm my neck and into my head, give me this what I call, skull ache and then a few mins later its gone.

I think I'm so tired of my body not belonging to me I could scream. I have one other thing that is really eating at me. This anger thing. Something and people will make me so very angry. The one that bothers me most are people who need attention. You know the ones who have to be noticed at all times. The needy, clinging ones. OMG I could go on but it makes me nuts. Do any of you have this anger problem. Its so new to me, I'm starting to wonder if I am truly not certifiable.

We thnx so much for letting me vent and listening. Gosh who knows maybe after its read someone can snap thier finger and all this will stop.

Hugs,
Patty


Patty,

It seems like many of us here on PS have wondered the same thing: Who am I?
I remember when this all started for me (at least I was aware of it starting) about 2 1/2 years ago. I had the worst health anxiety...I must have gone to the doctor at least 20 times during that summer. Every little ache and pain was something major in my mind. I still have that even today, but have a very hard time going to the doctor because I'm afraid they'll confirm the fears I might have at any given time. Anyway, you are definitely not alone in this. All the weird body sensations and the anger are also typical as we go through this wonderful phase of life.

I hope you'll keep posting about anything and everything because PS is a Godsend for all of us!
Pattyfl
Dmar:

Thanx so much for your support and listening to my craziness. I guess I am going to have to get used to all this. I don't suppose anyone has gotten lucky enough to have gone thru this in one day and been fabulous again the next.

I think the best to do is to pray for us all and to be here for each other.

Hugs,
Patty









QUOTE (dmar @ Jan 20 2008, 03:01 AM) *
Patty,

It seems like many of us here on PS have wondered the same thing: Who am I?
I remember when this all started for me (at least I was aware of it starting) about 2 1/2 years ago. I had the worst health anxiety...I must have gone to the doctor at least 20 times during that summer. Every little ache and pain was something major in my mind. I still have that even today, but have a very hard time going to the doctor because I'm afraid they'll confirm the fears I might have at any given time. Anyway, you are definitely not alone in this. All the weird body sensations and the anger are also typical as we go through this wonderful phase of life.

I hope you'll keep posting about anything and everything because PS is a Godsend for all of us!
Pattyfl
Dmar:

Thanx so much for your support and listening to my craziness. I guess I am going to have to get used to all this. I don't suppose anyone has gotten lucky enough to have gone thru this in one day and been fabulous again the next.

I think the best to do is to pray for us all and to be here for each other.

Hugs,
Patty









QUOTE (dmar @ Jan 20 2008, 03:01 AM) *
Patty,

It seems like many of us here on PS have wondered the same thing: Who am I?
I remember when this all started for me (at least I was aware of it starting) about 2 1/2 years ago. I had the worst health anxiety...I must have gone to the doctor at least 20 times during that summer. Every little ache and pain was something major in my mind. I still have that even today, but have a very hard time going to the doctor because I'm afraid they'll confirm the fears I might have at any given time. Anyway, you are definitely not alone in this. All the weird body sensations and the anger are also typical as we go through this wonderful phase of life.

I hope you'll keep posting about anything and everything because PS is a Godsend for all of us!
lumz
Amen Patty;I've never prayed so much in my life!I've had so many different sensations and energies move all over my body[especially up my spine]Now its more neck and head. The minute I start worrying about it ,it moves.Every time I get some weird symptom I'm always amazed how someone else on PS has the same.If your crazy you got a lot of company.Hang in there we may not ever be the same but hopefully come out stronger and wiser! Blessings lumz
EveningPrimrose
Who am I? That about sums it up -
malkachava
Dear Patty,

I have asked myself who I am every day for the last year and a half. I also feel like my body does not belong to me. Or my mind either. Sometimes I feel like I am hanging onto sanity by a thread. On the days that I really struggle, I just try to remember the advice my therapist gives me over and over: Distract yourself. With anything. I started out coloring with colored pencils on a blank piece of paper. Then I did color by numbers. I tried crocheting (no good). I tried cleaning up the house (too overwhelming). Little by little though I have been able to distract myself with baby steps. The baby steps turn into bigger steps and before I know it, I have put the dishes into the dishwasher or the clothes into the washing machine or even run the vacuum cleaner. Then I made some soup. Before I knew it, I had made a roasted vegetable dish.

For me, every day is different, so each day requires either a slightly different or a very different strategy. Try to find out what works for you.

I so empathize with your feelings. I hope that helps even a little.

Hang in.

Marcy
bchgrl65
You are definitely not alone. I think most women once they cross over 40 they go through health anxiety. Might be a getting older thing. After all, we never had these fear of death when we were younger. Sometimes I see women in their 40's 50's that look like they have it so together. Some of them even say I feel GREAT! Sometimes I wonder to myself, "oh really!" Must be nice! Not that I am wishing bad things for them, I just really don't believe them. Maybe they are better at fending off feelings they don't like and they don't dwell on them, like we do. Sometimes I tell myself, why am I worrying about dying. If it is my time maybe I should just give up and let it take me, but then I want to live for my son and that is when the fear really hits. So believe me when I say you are not alone, I know FEAR. I know what it is like to think about my own mortality when I have strange symptoms. Maybe I have too much time on my hands.
Mrs Barista
QUOTE (bchgrl65 @ Jan 20 2008, 02:44 PM) *
You are definitely not alone. I think most women once they cross over 40 they go through health anxiety. Might be a getting older thing. After all, we never had these fear of death when we were younger. Sometimes I see women in their 40's 50's that look like they have it so together. Some of them even say I feel GREAT! Sometimes I wonder to myself, "oh really!" Must be nice! Not that I am wishing bad things for them, I just really don't believe them. Maybe they are better at fending off feelings they don't like and they don't dwell on them, like we do. Sometimes I tell myself, why am I worrying about dying. If it is my time maybe I should just give up and let it take me, but then I want to live for my son and that is when the fear really hits. So believe me when I say you are not alone, I know FEAR. I know what it is like to think about my own mortality when I have strange symptoms. Maybe I have too much time on my hands.


Peri is a nightmare for escalating health anxiety. I've never dwelt so much on my health and mortality as in the last 10 months or so. I've still managed to keep up a full-time job and look after my kids, but have spent a huge amount of time worrying about dying and leaving them, especially because of the palpitations/racing heart episodes. I've found that the thing that's helped me most is writing a journal of my symptoms. I keep a record each day of physical and emotional symptoms - what helps is when I'm having a really bad day to look back and remind myself that I've had similar days/weeks before but that there are days when things aren't so bad. It's hard to do that when you've had a few really rough days together and are so anxious you can't really remember what it was like to not feel that bad.

The internet is a mixed blessing as well. Self-diagnosis by people like me (with health anxiety) means every symptom is something serious - when we're anxious we'll always look for the worst case scenario in the range of things that a symptom can mean. On the positive side, however, there are messageboards like this where people can share similar experiences and support each other. I absolutely empathise with everything you've said - the fear is just as bad as the symptoms themselves and one feeds from the other. You will get through this. And those women who say they feel great are either pre-peri, post meno, or not telling the truth! smile.gif
mydarling
QUOTE (Pattyfl @ Jan 19 2008, 09:20 PM) *
Hello Ladies:

I'm driving myself nuts. I can't seem to quit the obsessing about my health. I've talked about my heart anxieties in other post and I know I probably sounds like a lune. I know I went thru this years ago when I was actually sick and once things got better so did I. But now its back. Any sensation, ache or pain I have from my ribs to my throat are heart attack symptoms. Last nite I sat with this dull pain right in the middle of my chest, had no other symptoms and guess what yep it must be my heart. I tell myself, if it was a heart attack you would have died a thousand times. But do you think for one second my head is listening,,,,,, NO. What is it with this obsessing that comes on like this? Somedays I sail thru and then others its total craziness.

My next problem is these odd senations I get. I can be sitting here reading and feel this weird sensation lets say in my lower back, it slowly almost like a spasm move up my body thru my chest, my left arm my neck and into my head, give me this what I call, skull ache and then a few mins later its gone.

I think I'm so tired of my body not belonging to me I could scream. I have one other thing that is really eating at me. This anger thing. Something and people will make me so very angry. The one that bothers me most are people who need attention. You know the ones who have to be noticed at all times. The needy, clinging ones. OMG I could go on but it makes me nuts. Do any of you have this anger problem. Its so new to me, I'm starting to wonder if I am truly not certifiable.

We thnx so much for letting me vent and listening. Gosh who knows maybe after its read someone can snap thier finger and all this will stop.

Hugs,
Patty



Hi ladies,

oh yes, HEALTH ANXIETY! This whole peri thing came into FULL SWING last Jan. (of 2007), before that i can look back now, and see changes, but they were small, and had time in between, but as of last Jan. that all changed. Since then, i've been a basket case. I've had some good days, I'll admit that, and thank God for them...but, in general, each day is a challenge now,,,you never know what to expect from day to day. I feel like I can't even plan anything, any event, or whatever, because I never know how i'll feel. This really is very depressing, I try not to dwell on it, but geez, you can't help it, .. most of these symptoms are outright scary, and the others, are just plain depressing or debilitating. I never used to think about my health the way i do now. I was, well, lets say..."normal"..lol....but NOW, FORGET ABOUT IT...I"m a nervous wreck with every little twinge, pain, ache...whatever. Geez, i just got through posting yesterday AND today, about this new symptom now that's afflicting me.....this weird pre-period feeling i have, and yet, i've just finished my period 2 days ago! I feel nauseas, achey, weak, tired, and my uterus/ovary area feels so heavy and "churning",,,just like when you're about to get your period. To boot, I had a little blood yesterday too, and that was a full day, AFTER MY PERIOD WAS OVER....that was a new one for me. The GYN said to me that taht's not unusual, to bleed a litltle more even 5 days after the last day of your period. But the point is.....I became PANICKY! i was thinking the worst! So, don't worry, you're definatley not alone in this! I feel like i have lost "myself" too....I know i'm "in there" somewhere, but where? LOL....
Floater
I just read this thread and it made me feel sad for you all. I was lucky, I suppose, that debilitating health anxiety hasn't been a problem for me. which isn't to say I haven't had more of it since I turned 40 than before...but not in a debilitating way. I had my own set of debilitating symptoms though! It is just so sad to see so many women not know who they are anymore, not recognise themselves. And all because of horror moans! I find it quite maddening that so many of the symptoms of menopause are kept secret. There are close to 30,000 members on this board....imagine how many are out there that don't know about PS...I only found it 4 months ago....or don't have computers!

I hope all of you find yourselves again...and sooner rather than later!
LindyD
I think "health anxiety" when we reach 40+ is NORMAL..... we lucky ladies on PS have the opportunity to express ourselves freely and anonymously without fear of being judged.
It is often just not acceptable in "society" to talk about our fears/symptoms/concerns without others getting bored and judging.
I have really bad (scary) chemical intolerance problems and the only place I can talk freely about them is on a yahoo support group where there are others who understand. (and to Viktoria who has the same problem) I no longer mention anything other than the barest details/facts to family/friends. They are not "in my world" with it and find it difficult to understand.
Previous generations of women stayed at home and their support group was the women in their street/community. People chatted over tea behind closed doors.
It is a shame that as a society we do not have the ability to communicate our fears/worries to others without fear of being thought "looney" and we have a medical system that separates mind and body. (and doctors who have been trained only to relieve symptoms of recognised physical illness and treat you like a nutcase if you have anything they don't understand) We live in a very superficial world fueled by the media/celebrities when "perfect" minds and bodes are valued. Think how the media crucify celebrities when they show themselves as less than "perfect".
Nature is very clever..... our "health anxiety" is a protective instinct. As we age our bodies are more likely to have things go wrong.. It is normal to be concerned of we get a strange symptom. Nature gave us pain as warning system. If we do not act on the warning then our bodies (and even our lives) can suffer. The debilitating anxiety we feel is fueled by not being understood. (and of course the very very natural fear of death)
So ladies.. if you are worried about anything stand firm... it is normal to "worry". Be assertive with your doctor. Get checked out. Your doctor is paid to "serve" you. This is your body and your life.
If your doctor does not understand that is their problem. Do we really care what they think?
Who are you?.....
You are undergoing a transformation "the Change" as we call it in the UK
You were a caterpillar
You are now a chrysallis
You are going to emerge as a butterfly... free from the mental restrictions of youth, knowing who you are and what you are going to do with the 3rd part of your life.
HUGS Lindy xxxxxxxxxxxxx
dmar
QUOTE (LindyD @ Jan 22 2008, 03:29 AM) *
I think "health anxiety" when we reach 40+ is NORMAL..... we lucky ladies on PS have the opportunity to express ourselves freely and anonymously without fear of being judged.
It is often just not acceptable in "society" to talk about our fears/symptoms/concerns without others getting bored and judging.
I have really bad (scary) chemical intolerance problems and the only place I can talk freely about them is on a yahoo support group where there are others who understand. (and to Viktoria who has the same problem) I no longer mention anything other than the barest details/facts to family/friends. They are not "in my world" with it and find it difficult to understand.
Previous generations of women stayed at home and their support group was the women in their street/community. People chatted over tea behind closed doors.
It is a shame that as a society we do not have the ability to communicate our fears/worries to others without fear of being thought "looney" and we have a medical system that separates mind and body. (and doctors who have been trained only to relieve symptoms of recognised physical illness and treat you like a nutcase if you have anything they don't understand) We live in a very superficial world fueled by the media/celebrities when "perfect" minds and bodes are valued. Think how the media crucify celebrities when they show themselves as less than "perfect".
Nature is very clever..... our "health anxiety" is a protective instinct. As we age our bodies are more likely to have things go wrong.. It is normal to be concerned of we get a strange symptom. Nature gave us pain as warning system. If we do not act on the warning then our bodies (and even our lives) can suffer. The debilitating anxiety we feel is fueled by not being understood. (and of course the very very natural fear of death)
So ladies.. if you are worried about anything stand firm... it is normal to "worry". Be assertive with your doctor. Get checked out. Your doctor is paid to "serve" you. This is your body and your life.
If your doctor does not understand that is their problem. Do we really care what they think?
Who are you?.....
You are undergoing a transformation "the Change" as we call it in the UK
You were a caterpillar
You are now a chrysallis
You are going to emerge as a butterfly... free from the mental restrictions of youth, knowing who you are and what you are going to do with the 3rd part of your life.
HUGS Lindy xxxxxxxxxxxxx


Beautifully said...thanks for your wise words!
Lostnut
What an interesting thread to read Ladies. Myself like alot of other Ladies are in the Pre stage. My own mother started going through it when she was 36 years.

All the words of wisdom etc are such a help to us all.

Sometimes its hard to know from one day to the next as to how we are going to feel.

Dearest has done such a great job of setting up this site so women can fine the answers to all of the many questions that we have in relating to Menopause.

Well I hope you all have a great day whatever the time is where you are.

Take Care all of you. From Deb
epdp2
so many of us can relate to this question in so many ways. i appreciate hearing everyone's thoughts on it. i felt so lost in so many ways over the last years. then with all the weird health stuff thrown in & the emotional/mental aspects - it's really so huge. i was thinking the other day about rites of bravery that some societies developed & thought, we don't need to invent such rites, ours comes upon us & threatens to consume us. it takes such courage just to get through each moment. i am continually encouraged by the bravery that i see in the struggle. i know that we will not just survive but will become deeper, stronger, & more beautiful women as a result. i see glimpses of the better parts of this passage & of the person who i am becoming as a result. i take heart in that & in the continued wisdom & support & experiences of all of you who are on this journey.

thanks,
ellen
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