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formeandmygirls
I"ve read a lot of posts and you all mention in passing that your forties felt like an emotional roller coaster, but my gawd I have been amazed. We are all intelligent woman, and I have a huge science background and read a lot and I could not get the dots connected until within the last month. Earlier this year I started noticing it seemed I was more sensitive to coffee and alcohol. My 2-3 cups in the morning (of coffee that is!) would make me feel like I had 3 espressos, then one or two glasses of wine would make my head spin and worse make me feel like I had drank two bottles the next morning. I thought, hmmm, this is weird.

I've always had hot flashes since early thirties so ignored those occurring more frequently. I felt extremely bloated, chronic breast pain, more frequent migraines, a tire ring around my middle, and energy level in the tank, I mean IN THE TANK. I chalked it up to being a working mom trying to do everything with two little ones that I had in my late thirties.

THEN the bad days for irritability and rage. I have had three now since May. They have come out of nowhere and I mean BADDDDDD. Like I said, I would talk to myself and say, come on control it, keep your patience with your two beautiful little girls (6 and 3). They are not fighting any more than usual, why is it PISSING you off so bad today. I would yell, ride the oldest one all day, expect them to respond IMMEDIATELY and just feel completely out of control internally. Then I would crash into a depression that evening like none I had ever experienced, and then feel happy as a clam the next morning, just as lovey and patient as I could be. I could tell something was NOT RIGHT. I told my husband I felt like I was absolutely going crazy, no you don't understand, I mean REALLY losing it. I'm a control freak by nature anyway, so when all this started I was like, jiminy, am I bipolar or what????

Periods went late, I'm never late, than they jumped a week ahead two months in a row. So I finally felt like I had something justifiable to go to the doctor with, this and the breast pain.So to the doctor in June, have some ovarian cysts, so I chalk it up to that. Had to go back for followup on the cysts, she says, everything fine, cysts are no big deal, all thyroid (i'm borderline hypothyroid for several years now) levels fine, you are not perimenopause b/c you are too young (I'm 43?), adrenals are fine, just cut caffeine down, lose some weight, and cut down your stress. Needless to say, I was unhappy with her response. I just so happened to pick up Suzanne Somers book the sexy years and I have felt ecstactic since. Long story short, plus two more books on perimenopause (that were AWESOME) and now I realize I am full blown perimenopause. I feel much better now just because I have validated my situation and am on the path to get my hormones checked day 19 this cycle and then am heading to a naturapathic doctor to get help balancing them with bioidentical hormones.
BUT this long post is an explanation of my stuff to ask YOU GUYS, was it REALLY as bad for you?? I feel like it can't really be this bad. I was so unprepared for my body to act like this. I've always been attuned to the most minor of changes like if my thyroid is off, can feel a migraine coming on, but like I said, my gawd, I could literally feel the irritation and rage crawling out of my body this last time and thought, oh lord, here we go again. Then this last period blasted me with massive back pain (that has gotten worse over the summer), ovarian pain (not cramps) and total depression. Now coming out of it on day four and feel like I am coming out of the cyclone for another week or two before it starts again. Can we really be this in touch with our bodies, or am I imagining this??
Any insight and stories would be greatly appreciated.
Have a wonderful weekend
horsinaround
QUOTE (formeandmygirls @ Oct 6 2007, 05:09 PM) *
I"ve read a lot of posts and you all mention in passing that your forties felt like an emotional roller coaster, but my gawd I have been amazed. We are all intelligent woman, and I have a huge science background and read a lot and I could not get the dots connected until within the last month. Earlier this year I started noticing it seemed I was more sensitive to coffee and alcohol. My 2-3 cups in the morning (of coffee that is!) would make me feel like I had 3 espressos, then one or two glasses of wine would make my head spin and worse make me feel like I had drank two bottles the next morning. I thought, hmmm, this is weird.

I've always had hot flashes since early thirties so ignored those occurring more frequently. I felt extremely bloated, chronic breast pain, more frequent migraines, a tire ring around my middle, and energy level in the tank, I mean IN THE TANK. I chalked it up to being a working mom trying to do everything with two little ones that I had in my late thirties.

THEN the bad days for irritability and rage. I have had three now since May. They have come out of nowhere and I mean BADDDDDD. Like I said, I would talk to myself and say, come on control it, keep your patience with your two beautiful little girls (6 and 3). They are not fighting any more than usual, why is it PISSING you off so bad today. I would yell, ride the oldest one all day, expect them to respond IMMEDIATELY and just feel completely out of control internally. Then I would crash into a depression that evening like none I had ever experienced, and then feel happy as a clam the next morning, just as lovey and patient as I could be. I could tell something was NOT RIGHT. I told my husband I felt like I was absolutely going crazy, no you don't understand, I mean REALLY losing it. I'm a control freak by nature anyway, so when all this started I was like, jiminy, am I bipolar or what????

Periods went late, I'm never late, than they jumped a week ahead two months in a row. So I finally felt like I had something justifiable to go to the doctor with, this and the breast pain.So to the doctor in June, have some ovarian cysts, so I chalk it up to that. Had to go back for followup on the cysts, she says, everything fine, cysts are no big deal, all thyroid (i'm borderline hypothyroid for several years now) levels fine, you are not perimenopause b/c you are too young (I'm 43?), adrenals are fine, just cut caffeine down, lose some weight, and cut down your stress. Needless to say, I was unhappy with her response. I just so happened to pick up Suzanne Somers book the sexy years and I have felt ecstactic since. Long story short, plus two more books on perimenopause (that were AWESOME) and now I realize I am full blown perimenopause. I feel much better now just because I have validated my situation and am on the path to get my hormones checked day 19 this cycle and then am heading to a naturapathic doctor to get help balancing them with bioidentical hormones.
BUT this long post is an explanation of my stuff to ask YOU GUYS, was it REALLY as bad for you?? I feel like it can't really be this bad. I was so unprepared for my body to act like this. I've always been attuned to the most minor of changes like if my thyroid is off, can feel a migraine coming on, but like I said, my gawd, I could literally feel the irritation and rage crawling out of my body this last time and thought, oh lord, here we go again. Then this last period blasted me with massive back pain (that has gotten worse over the summer), ovarian pain (not cramps) and total depression. Now coming out of it on day four and feel like I am coming out of the cyclone for another week or two before it starts again. Can we really be this in touch with our bodies, or am I imagining this??
Any insight and stories would be greatly appreciated.
Have a wonderful weekend


Oh yes it can be that bad and worse!!! I too have done the irritability and rage thing. I scare myself. I have NO coping skills anymore. Although I can say that I have had some "normal" days in the past month but they seem to have left me and now I'm worse off than before. I love my ativan that's about all I can say. I never take the stuff more than 2 days in a row but this is my 3rd day taking it although I still have only taken a half dose each day. But otherwise I wouldn't be able to stop crying. Ugh. Crying, rage, irritability - I feel like the wheel of fortune but all of the slots except for maybe two are REALLY lousy so the likliehood of "winning" is pretty slim. Just never know where that wheel's going to stop from hour to hour,day to day. Probably is bad this month because my period is due/overdue/or something but I've been feeling like I have it. So things are definitely amiss with my cycle. Anyway, just so you know, it does happen!
Juliann
Hi

Yes I agree "it can happen" and you do feel like you have hit the wall. I feel the same way, that nothing could have prepared me for what was happening to my body and mind. It was days upon days of irritable "feelings", fatigue, depression, well you all know what I mean.

It was like PMS was lasting the whole month. It's good that you read the book "Sexy Years", that is what helped me to search out some help with BHRT. It was what helped me.

Some have a harder time than others, we are amoung that group!!!!

Best wishes, Juliann
Ivy lena
Oh yes, this seems to be the way it is. I just turned 47 last month and everything hit me all of a sudden, hot flashes, totally irregular periods, aches and pains i never had in my life. Im still in a state of shock over the whole thing. 3 months ago, I felt fine, cycles were fairly regular, no flashes, no pains. Now it feels like im having severe pms all month long, I wasnt prepared for this. Im angry and confused, how long am i going to feel like this?? I feel like I dont even know who I am anymore. My back hurts almost constantly, cramps all month long, not sleeping, hot at night, even when the room is freezing. I have never felt like this in my life. I started using progest a week ago, I am feeling somewhat better, and totally sleeping better. Its the day to day not knowing how i will feel that is causing great anxiety. Its like my life went on hold. Try the progest cream, it really has helped.
QUOTE (formeandmygirls @ Oct 6 2007, 06:09 PM) *
I"ve read a lot of posts and you all mention in passing that your forties felt like an emotional roller coaster, but my gawd I have been amazed. We are all intelligent woman, and I have a huge science background and read a lot and I could not get the dots connected until within the last month. Earlier this year I started noticing it seemed I was more sensitive to coffee and alcohol. My 2-3 cups in the morning (of coffee that is!) would make me feel like I had 3 espressos, then one or two glasses of wine would make my head spin and worse make me feel like I had drank two bottles the next morning. I thought, hmmm, this is weird.

I've always had hot flashes since early thirties so ignored those occurring more frequently. I felt extremely bloated, chronic breast pain, more frequent migraines, a tire ring around my middle, and energy level in the tank, I mean IN THE TANK. I chalked it up to being a working mom trying to do everything with two little ones that I had in my late thirties.

THEN the bad days for irritability and rage. I have had three now since May. They have come out of nowhere and I mean BADDDDDD. Like I said, I would talk to myself and say, come on control it, keep your patience with your two beautiful little girls (6 and 3). They are not fighting any more than usual, why is it PISSING you off so bad today. I would yell, ride the oldest one all day, expect them to respond IMMEDIATELY and just feel completely out of control internally. Then I would crash into a depression that evening like none I had ever experienced, and then feel happy as a clam the next morning, just as lovey and patient as I could be. I could tell something was NOT RIGHT. I told my husband I felt like I was absolutely going crazy, no you don't understand, I mean REALLY losing it. I'm a control freak by nature anyway, so when all this started I was like, jiminy, am I bipolar or what????

Periods went late, I'm never late, than they jumped a week ahead two months in a row. So I finally felt like I had something justifiable to go to the doctor with, this and the breast pain.So to the doctor in June, have some ovarian cysts, so I chalk it up to that. Had to go back for followup on the cysts, she says, everything fine, cysts are no big deal, all thyroid (i'm borderline hypothyroid for several years now) levels fine, you are not perimenopause b/c you are too young (I'm 43?), adrenals are fine, just cut caffeine down, lose some weight, and cut down your stress. Needless to say, I was unhappy with her response. I just so happened to pick up Suzanne Somers book the sexy years and I have felt ecstactic since. Long story short, plus two more books on perimenopause (that were AWESOME) and now I realize I am full blown perimenopause. I feel much better now just because I have validated my situation and am on the path to get my hormones checked day 19 this cycle and then am heading to a naturapathic doctor to get help balancing them with bioidentical hormones.
BUT this long post is an explanation of my stuff to ask YOU GUYS, was it REALLY as bad for you?? I feel like it can't really be this bad. I was so unprepared for my body to act like this. I've always been attuned to the most minor of changes like if my thyroid is off, can feel a migraine coming on, but like I said, my gawd, I could literally feel the irritation and rage crawling out of my body this last time and thought, oh lord, here we go again. Then this last period blasted me with massive back pain (that has gotten worse over the summer), ovarian pain (not cramps) and total depression. Now coming out of it on day four and feel like I am coming out of the cyclone for another week or two before it starts again. Can we really be this in touch with our bodies, or am I imagining this??
Any insight and stories would be greatly appreciated.
Have a wonderful weekend
epdp2
QUOTE (formeandmygirls @ Oct 6 2007, 06:09 PM) *
I"ve read a lot of posts and you all mention in passing that your forties felt like an emotional roller coaster, but my gawd I have been amazed. We are all intelligent woman, and I have a huge science background and read a lot and I could not get the dots connected until within the last month. Earlier this year I started noticing it seemed I was more sensitive to coffee and alcohol. My 2-3 cups in the morning (of coffee that is!) would make me feel like I had 3 espressos, then one or two glasses of wine would make my head spin and worse make me feel like I had drank two bottles the next morning. I thought, hmmm, this is weird.

I've always had hot flashes since early thirties so ignored those occurring more frequently. I felt extremely bloated, chronic breast pain, more frequent migraines, a tire ring around my middle, and energy level in the tank, I mean IN THE TANK. I chalked it up to being a working mom trying to do everything with two little ones that I had in my late thirties.

THEN the bad days for irritability and rage. I have had three now since May. They have come out of nowhere and I mean BADDDDDD. Like I said, I would talk to myself and say, come on control it, keep your patience with your two beautiful little girls (6 and 3). They are not fighting any more than usual, why is it PISSING you off so bad today. I would yell, ride the oldest one all day, expect them to respond IMMEDIATELY and just feel completely out of control internally. Then I would crash into a depression that evening like none I had ever experienced, and then feel happy as a clam the next morning, just as lovey and patient as I could be. I could tell something was NOT RIGHT. I told my husband I felt like I was absolutely going crazy, no you don't understand, I mean REALLY losing it. I'm a control freak by nature anyway, so when all this started I was like, jiminy, am I bipolar or what????

Periods went late, I'm never late, than they jumped a week ahead two months in a row. So I finally felt like I had something justifiable to go to the doctor with, this and the breast pain.So to the doctor in June, have some ovarian cysts, so I chalk it up to that. Had to go back for followup on the cysts, she says, everything fine, cysts are no big deal, all thyroid (i'm borderline hypothyroid for several years now) levels fine, you are not perimenopause b/c you are too young (I'm 43?), adrenals are fine, just cut caffeine down, lose some weight, and cut down your stress. Needless to say, I was unhappy with her response. I just so happened to pick up Suzanne Somers book the sexy years and I have felt ecstactic since. Long story short, plus two more books on perimenopause (that were AWESOME) and now I realize I am full blown perimenopause. I feel much better now just because I have validated my situation and am on the path to get my hormones checked day 19 this cycle and then am heading to a naturapathic doctor to get help balancing them with bioidentical hormones.
BUT this long post is an explanation of my stuff to ask YOU GUYS, was it REALLY as bad for you?? I feel like it can't really be this bad. I was so unprepared for my body to act like this. I've always been attuned to the most minor of changes like if my thyroid is off, can feel a migraine coming on, but like I said, my gawd, I could literally feel the irritation and rage crawling out of my body this last time and thought, oh lord, here we go again. Then this last period blasted me with massive back pain (that has gotten worse over the summer), ovarian pain (not cramps) and total depression. Now coming out of it on day four and feel like I am coming out of the cyclone for another week or two before it starts again. Can we really be this in touch with our bodies, or am I imagining this??
Any insight and stories would be greatly appreciated.
Have a wonderful weekend



sorry it has been so bad for you, but i hope that you will find some relief with the avenues that you are pursuing.
this has absolutely been the worst year of my life as far as whatever is going on with me. i'm 44 & have all the typical list symptoms & am a wreck pretty much daily. i've been told 'too young' as well, but my new pcp thinks i'm having the peri from hell. if it weren't for this website & the women on it, i'm not sure how really crazy i would be at this point.
i really hate the awful fatigue & muscle aches, but i'm also terrified of the mood stuff because it is so strong & seemingly uncontrollable. hell, it's all so strong & seeminly uncontrollable.
i'm thinking of seeking out a comprehensive endocrine eval to rule out anything that may be complicating an already horrific situation. my pcp wants me to go back on the pill, but i'm not eager to do that for a number of reasons, not the least of which was a practically suicidal experience last november while on yaz (i lasted 5 days & what a frickin' nightmare it was).
symptoms? some are: sleep problems, bruxism, cognitive problems (brain fog, ADD, dyslexia, word recall/short term memory problems), tinnitus, muscle/joint aches, crushing fatigue, sinus/ear/mouth/gum problems/sensitivity, dry mouth, bad acne, vaginal dryness, greasy scalp but cracking hands, breast tenderness for weeks at a time, appetite swings, internal buzzing/trembling, sensitivities to light/sound, taste changes, nausea, worsening allergies/ibs, body odor changes, spatial disconnects/clumsiness, hypoglycemic episodes, hot & cold flashes, flat-lined libido with big upswings for no reason, & mood problems including rage, crazy anxiety, crushing depression, obsessive/compulsive episodes. that's all that i can think of off the top of my head or what's left of it.

good luck,
ellen
formeandmygirls
QUOTE (epdp2 @ Oct 6 2007, 08:04 PM) *
sorry it has been so bad for you, but i hope that you will find some relief with the avenues that you are pursuing.
this has absolutely been the worst year of my life as far as whatever is going on with me. i'm 44 & have all the typical list symptoms & am a wreck pretty much daily. i've been told 'too young' as well, but my new pcp thinks i'm having the peri from hell. if it weren't for this website & the women on it, i'm not sure how really crazy i would be at this point.
i really hate the awful fatigue & muscle aches, but i'm also terrified of the mood stuff because it is so strong & seemingly uncontrollable. hell, it's all so strong & seeminly uncontrollable.
i'm thinking of seeking out a comprehensive endocrine eval to rule out anything that may be complicating an already horrific situation. my pcp wants me to go back on the pill, but i'm not eager to do that for a number of reasons, not the least of which was a practically suicidal experience last november while on yaz (i lasted 5 days & what a frickin' nightmare it was).
symptoms? some are: sleep problems, bruxism, cognitive problems (brain fog, ADD, dyslexia, word recall/short term memory problems), tinnitus, muscle/joint aches, crushing fatigue, sinus/ear/mouth/gum problems/sensitivity, dry mouth, bad acne, vaginal dryness, greasy scalp but cracking hands, breast tenderness for weeks at a time, appetite swings, internal buzzing/trembling, sensitivities to light/sound, taste changes, nausea, worsening allergies/ibs, body odor changes, spatial disconnects/clumsiness, hypoglycemic episodes, hot & cold flashes, flat-lined libido with big upswings for no reason, & mood problems including rage, crazy anxiety, crushing depression, obsessive/compulsive episodes. that's all that i can think of off the top of my head or what's left of it.

good luck,
ellen

Man, thank you SOOO much for everyone responding. I just didn't feel like it could truly be coming on so fast and hard to others like it was me, and therefore really making me question myself. In response to a couple of other posts, breast pain, lord, talk about chronic and just enough to want to do something about, but just not quite enough to feel like I really should be saying something about it. Lower back pain, my GAWD I couldn't hardly walk the other night and then crawl up my spin while trying to sit and watch tv. I mean it takes ALOT for me to whine about something, much less go to the doctor. So when I went I really downplayed everything. Well, I have another appt. in two weeks and I am trying to get myself geared up to tell the TRUTH.
Second, I would really encourage everyone to read Nisha Jackson's book on perimenopause and Ann Louise Gittelman's book on peri because lord do they encourage you to make some changes without birth control pills and synthetic hormones. That was the first thing my doc said too and one I didn't want too, and two I got off them back in my twentites because they were fostering my migraines. She totally blew off that concern and then all the research on the web says if you have migraines with auras, absolutely don't take the pill. So mainstream continues to jerk us around, hence my encouragement with the books, this website, vitamin supplements, and we'll see if my hormone panel suggests ProGest. I'm glad to see someone else mentioned ProGest. It sounds like a godsend in the books but I do want to check first and then monitor levels.
As far as the moods and some of us having MASSIVE swings and quick come-ons, lord do they scare me too. I agree these first few months have been hell and I hope to get a handle on it with the supplements and such. But, it sure does take up alot of brain time, thinking about it, worrying about it, etc... I"m just trying to get as much information as I can to be prepared for them and to validate the craziness.
I so hope others find solace in something whether it be this website, books or bioidentical hormones because, man is life too short to feel those bad days so often!! Thanks again and good luck to all.
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