Wintermoon
Sep 26 2007, 01:15 PM
Hi. I've been a long time lurker, rarely post but always like reading the information on this website and these message boards.
Monday morning I found what I feel is a substantial lump on the underside of my right breast very near where the bottom of my bra sits. I've told no one (except everyone who reads this board I guess! lol) My mother suffers from dementia and is difficult to communicate with, my sister is overwhelmed with taking care of my mother (who lives with her) and her own family. I've been a single mother for 15 years and my three children are grown or nearly grown. Oldest son is out on his own with his own family, my middle son is a freshman in college and my daugher is a high school junior. I've said nothing to them as I don't want to frighten or burden them right now. I've thought about calling my two closest friends, but I am reluctant to do so because I'm feeling guilty. I'm one of those people who never go to the doctor. Mostly, because I'm almost never sick. I did have a general physical a year ago, but I haven't been to a gynocologist in well....years (I'm 48). No annual checkup, no mammograms...nothing. I feel stupid and almost like I deserve this for not taking care of myself. There was always something more important...usually with regard to the kids. They have always and still do come first. The funny thing is that I'm extremely well informed with regard to nutrition and exercise. I've been vegetarian for years, don't smoke or drink. I have no excuses. I assume I'm perimenopausal (but really how would I know as I haven't discussed with a doctor) and I have no perimenopausal symptoms really, still have regular periods and as I said before in good health...or so I thought. I have made an appointment with a woman gynocologist I'd heard about through co-workers for next Tuesday. I did tell the receptionist about the lump and my not seeing a doctor in quite some time. She didn't scream at me, so I'm hoping the doctor will not lecture. She couldn't beat me up anymore than I am beating up myself right now. Of course, I don't know what I am dealing with here with regard to this issue. I've read so much on the internet, my head is spinning. I don't know what to think and I'm terrified. I know that all I can do right now is wait.
I guess I'm writing here because I have to let it out somewhere and you are all so supportive of one another. Thanks for reading.
Jonie
Sep 26 2007, 01:29 PM
Hi Wintermoon!
I can't be of much help, as I'm not a doctor, but I thought I'd let you know that I have read your post and send you millions of hugs.
I can well understand how scared you are, I'm sure I'd be out of my mind as well.
Have you perhaps got a tranquilizer you can take so that you can sleep at night and help you relax a little?
I'm like you, usually been in good health and never had a check up. Kids come first, as you say and there's always something more important...
I'm praying that the doctors will be able to put your mind at rest and that it's nothing serious.
I had a lump as a teenager and had a scan and it was nothing, it also went away on it's own. But I was very scared. Hopefully this is the same.
And please don't feel guilty, as if you deserved this, that's utter rubbish, don't even allow such silly thoughts into your mind!
Please do get in touch with your girlfriends, they will certainly support you and you need to talk about this.
Look after yourself and don't despair, let your friends and family help you and let us know how you're doing!
God bless you, Jonie
RoundRobin
Sep 26 2007, 02:14 PM
Wintermoon: You poor thing; you must be going crazy! Please let me reassure you; the VAST majority of breast lumps are NOTHING. This is probably a fibrocystic lump, or a fatty lipoma. Is the lump hard and immovable, or is it kind of spongy, and able to move around a bit? Are you having any pain? You have two huge factors on your side; you don't consume animal fats and you don't drink alcohol. Even one alcoholic drink a day has been shown to double a woman's risk of breast cancer.
I work in the health insurance field and deal with lots of cancer cases. Breast cancer is not the death sentence it used to be. It's a slow growing cancer that has excellent survival rates. You found this on your own, and you are taking action. Don't, PLEASE, don't beat yourself up over not having seen a doctor for years. Many, many women do the same thing. We are healers by nature, and we tend to put our children's needs and issues before our own. It's incredibly common. Do you know how many women I talk to who tell me they've NEVER had a pap smear or a mammogram? LOTS. Some are afraid...some just put it off. I know that when my daughter was small and I was living in crisis mode, I went 4 years without a visit to the gynecologist.
Back in 2004 I had a lump in my left breast. I also had bleeding from my nipple. It was really scary. My doctor was nervous and gave me a couple of options: watch it to see it if changed or grew, or go in and take it out. I'm an aggressive person, so I opted for the surgery. It turned out to be a pre-cancerous bunch of cells in one of my milk ducts. It was very scary and nerve wracking but I had a lot of support from my family and friends. You've come to the right place here. This is a great community of women. No one will chastise you or put you down. Post anytime, and feel free to PM me (just click on my username to send me a private message) if you feel like talking. I'm having raging insomnia these days, so if you feel like talking at 3 in the morning, chances are good I'll be up!
Hang in there and be good to yourself. Consider telling your daughter about the situation. Kids are stronger than you think. My daughter was a junior in high school when I was going through my situation and she was a great source of strength for me. I honestly think this is going to turn out to be nothing, but I know that doesn't help your frayed nerves now. I'm praying for you. Stick close. I'm sending BIG hugs your way.
Peace,
Robin
WriterMom
Sep 26 2007, 03:33 PM
Hi Ladies,
I know what you are going through. I found a small hard lump on the underside of my breast and went for a mamogram and sonogram. Then I went to a surgeon for a needle biopsy, but it was so small they couldn't see it to take a biopsy. So they went me to the Womens Center at Northside Hospital in Atlanta where they have more sensitive machines.
They were able to see it and take a core sample for biopsy. Now I wait the results. But I'm optomistic. I know so many women who have had these and they turned out to be nothing.
My gynecologist office has a sign that says "1 out of 8 women will be diagnosed with breast cancer some time in their lives." Well, to me, that means 7 out of 8 women WON"T be diagnosed with breast cancer!
I might get the results today, but no later than tomorrow.
And if it it's not good news, I'll deal with it and survive.
The nurse, radiologist, and doctor who took the sample for biopsy were all women and were wonderful. It was not a big deal. I had wisdom teeth removed and it was a much bigger deal.
Hang in there, and I'll be thinking positive thoughts for you.
WriterMom
girlsmom
Sep 26 2007, 03:48 PM
Hi Wintermoon, I am so glad you came on to write and not just read this time. Roundrobin has it right,. The likelihood of it being a Fibroadenoma is a great one. Suddenly they just seem to be there, and usually quite large to feel which makes it double so scarey.
Nobody will lecture you, they will just be glad you are now there, getting checked out like you should. I know what it is like to go it alone. I am also alone with my 3 Children and the burden that carries makes any threat of illness 10 fold. The biopsy isn't a big deal at all, in and out. The wait is the killer. After a mammogram and ultrasound they are pretty sure what they are dealing with but the biopsy is just the last confimation for peace. I'm just comming out of another cancer scare today and is emotionaly, a killer.
Hang tight, know that you are on your way to an answer and try like the devil not to read into anything to much. Power surge is filled with love and support...you'll be alright. You are in no way alone and the amount of positive stories HEAVILY outweigh the negative ones.
Please post back with any worries or woes...
Thinking of you,
Girlsmom
Wintermoon
Sep 26 2007, 04:20 PM
Jonie, RoundRobin, WriterMom and Girlsmom: Thank you so much for your kind words.
RoundRobin: The lump is oval shaped and feels very firm. I haven't tried to push it around because I don't want to mess with it too much. Actually, I felt two lumps, the large oval one and a smaller round one almost right next to it. I've always had discomfort in my breasts before my period but not really intense pain. My left breast has more tissue than my right and always has (it's slightly bigger too, which I'm told is common) so I was startled to find a lump in my right breast. I thought if I was ever going to have a problem it would be in my left.
WriterMom: Your positive attitude is inspiring. I hope you'll post here and let us know your results.
Girlsmom: I know you understand the single parent issues that arise when you find out something is not right with your body. All I kept thinking was...I won't be able to work, I won't be able to help my son with tuition...I won't be able to take my daughter on college visits...I won't see my granddaughter grow up. (My oldest has a little girl age 1) In saner moments, I realize I have to wait and see what is really going on.
Thank you so much ladies for responding. Keeping this inside was not helping me. I felt like I was going to burst into tears at any moment. I keep waffling between thinking it's all over and trying to be brave and bracing myself for whatever comes.
girlsmom
Sep 26 2007, 04:33 PM
Oval is good! That is the typical shape of a Fibro. I really think you will hear that your breasts are going through fibrocystic change. That in itself is a frustrating road but nothing compared to what it could of been. Sllep time in Switzerland....relax your mind and I'll see you soon!
Girlsmom
RoundRobin
Sep 26 2007, 07:40 PM
Winter: It sounds like fibrocystic breasts...I've got the oval lumps too...and I get them next to each other..it's maddening. I once told my doctor that if I called her every time I felt lumps I'd be coming in every week! Your wise to get it thoroughly checked out though...just for your own peace of mind. Resolve to get your mammograms every year from now on. You owe it to yourself. I use to have mine on Valentine's Day, just satisfy my twisted sense of humor. Ever since the surgery, I now have it on Halloween. Again, my little way of dealing with the fear. I walk into the hospital to have this procedure that already scares me and here are all these plastic skeletons and witches hanging all over the place. The irony always makes me laugh out loud. Hang in there, wintermoon. You'll get through this!
Marrin7
Sep 27 2007, 09:21 AM
Don't beat yourself up over this. I've been in healthcare for many years and I've neglected my health up until this spring/summer. Healthcare workers seem to be the worst when it comes to doctor appts. LOL
I'll keep good thoughts for you.
bluewillow
Sep 27 2007, 10:35 AM
Hi there Wintermoon (what a lovely name)!
I want to send a whole big bunch of encouragement your way!!! As the other ladies have said here, it is very very likely that it is nothing serious!! And please, please do not beat yourself up over not having regular mammograms. They are important, yes, but they are not always a guarantee if we have them regularly. I know-- I've been there, done that. I am currently being treated for Stage 1 Breast Cancer (and am doing GREAT) and I had not had a mammogram in
NINE years!!! Of course, sitting in the doctor's office after being given the diagnosis, I cried and said that very thing, and get this: she looked me straight in the eye and said "this was so small it wouldn't have showed up last year anyway". SO, do NOT blame yourself!!! I know you are terrified and take my advice: STOP reading on the internet!!! I still have to do that! As Robin said,
BC is not a death sentence anyway-- it can be cured! But you are not even in that situation anyway and most likely will not be! I just wanted to emphasis that statement for all to read and remember. Be thankful you found this and that you have an appointment next Tuesday, which is great that you don't have to wait too long!!! And take care of yourself mentally and don't bear the burden alone, please!!! Please let us know how you are doing, ok? And do check in after your Tuesday appointment. You and everyone else are welcome to PM me anytime! Take care and hugs to you!!
Mary Jo
QUOTE (Wintermoon @ Sep 26 2007, 01:15 PM)

Hi. I've been a long time lurker, rarely post but always like reading the information on this website and these message boards.
Monday morning I found what I feel is a substantial lump on the underside of my right breast very near where the bottom of my bra sits. I've told no one (except everyone who reads this board I guess! lol) My mother suffers from dementia and is difficult to communicate with, my sister is overwhelmed with taking care of my mother (who lives with her) and her own family. I've been a single mother for 15 years and my three children are grown or nearly grown. Oldest son is out on his own with his own family, my middle son is a freshman in college and my daugher is a high school junior. I've said nothing to them as I don't want to frighten or burden them right now. I've thought about calling my two closest friends, but I am reluctant to do so because I'm feeling guilty. I'm one of those people who never go to the doctor. Mostly, because I'm almost never sick. I did have a general physical a year ago, but I haven't been to a gynocologist in well....years (I'm 48). No annual checkup, no mammograms...nothing. I feel stupid and almost like I deserve this for not taking care of myself. There was always something more important...usually with regard to the kids. They have always and still do come first. The funny thing is that I'm extremely well informed with regard to nutrition and exercise. I've been vegetarian for years, don't smoke or drink. I have no excuses. I assume I'm perimenopausal (but really how would I know as I haven't discussed with a doctor) and I have no perimenopausal symptoms really, still have regular periods and as I said before in good health...or so I thought. I have made an appointment with a woman gynocologist I'd heard about through co-workers for next Tuesday. I did tell the receptionist about the lump and my not seeing a doctor in quite some time. She didn't scream at me, so I'm hoping the doctor will not lecture. She couldn't beat me up anymore than I am beating up myself right now. Of course, I don't know what I am dealing with here with regard to this issue. I've read so much on the internet, my head is spinning. I don't know what to think and I'm terrified. I know that all I can do right now is wait.
I guess I'm writing here because I have to let it out somewhere and you are all so supportive of one another. Thanks for reading.
Wintermoon
Sep 27 2007, 12:19 PM
Thank you so much Marrin7 and bluewillow.
All of your comments have given me great comfort. The waiting is always the hardest part, right?
My daughter and I are going to visit my son at his college this weekend. I know I just have to wait and Tuesday is not that far away. I'm determine to have a good time hanging out with my son (it's the first time we'll see him since we dropped him off) and don't want to spend the weekend dwelling on what might be.
I've decided to wait until I know what's going on to tell my children, but I did tell my sister last night. It was a relief to do so, but honestly if it hadn't been for all of your wonderful, supportive posts I don't think I could have made the call. Thank you all very much. I will post here after my Dr. visit Tuesday.
Wintermoon
Oct 2 2007, 11:29 AM
Update:
I saw gyno this a.m. I did like her very much. Non-judgemental, very kind. She really couldn't tell me what it was (which I suspected). She did say that if it was cancer then it would be the first time she ever saw cancer in that area of the breast. It's on the underside where there is nothing but fat (according to the pictures I saw online). She also said that it could actually be a skin issue. It's very close to the surface. She said she didn't feel anything in the nodes. Which is good, right? She was vague, but I kind of expected that. She's sending me for mammo and ultra sound. I've already made the appointment for Monday. Then I have to contact breast surgeon. She gave me a list of surgeons and fortunately the co-worker who recommended the gyno has had one of the surgeons and said she is excellent, so that's who I'm going with. She didn't mention anything about needing a referral. Do I ask Breast Surgeon office that? I'm so unfamiliar with all this medical stuff. I don't understand how referrals work either. Maybe I'll call my provider and ask.
So we wait. Can anyone here give me info on how the mammo and ultra sound will go? So I know what to expect?
Thanks for all your kindness. There is wonderful support here and it has helped tremendously.
RoundRobin
Oct 2 2007, 01:08 PM
Wintermoon, that is great news. I'm a bit confused. Are you going to schedule some sort of surgery before you even have a mamogram and ultrasound? Or does your gyno want you to wait to see what the result of those tests are? In terms of your questions about referrals and such, contact your insurance co. They'll tell you what you need from whom.
Mammograms aren't painless. Some women find them very painful; others not so much. I have huge breasts (DD) and I think they actually hurt a lot, but it's only for a few seconds and then it's over. If you've been through childbirth, this will seem like nothing to you. The ultrsound is completely painless. The technician just squirts this goo on your breasts and slides this thingy that looks like an old fashioned telephone over your breasts. Try not to read into their facial expressions. Most of the time ultrasound technicians are just concentrating on getting good images for the radiologist to read, so if you see her scrunch up her face, or look concerned, don't interpret it as "oh my God, she must be seeing a massive tumor!" It just means they're trying to position the device properly and they're concentrating hard at doing a good job.
In reference to the surgery again, is your doctor recommending a biopsy? If so, they numb you up and you don't feel much at all. But we're getting ahead of ourselves. It sounds like the gynecologist gave you reassuring news. And yes, no nodal involvement is a positive sign. You have lymph nodes in your arm pits and if they get involved with breast cancer it can complicate things. STill, it's not the end of the world if a few lymph nodes are swollen.
You sound much calmer than you did. I'm glad you told your sister. Was she supportive of you?
Let us know how you're doing...every appointment...we want to know (or at least I do)!
Big hugs coming your way........----->>>>>NOW!
Robin
Wintermoon
Oct 2 2007, 01:37 PM
RoundRobin: The gyno said I had to get mammo and ultra sound and then contact surgeon. I guess surgeon will look at results and determine what needs to be done. I was a bit confused myself. I do have appointment with gyno to have pap done in a month. I think she wants me to have an answer regarding the breast lump because of the emotional turmoil. Like I said she was vague, but she said little things to me like "If I thought it looked very serious, I'd say so, but I can't say what it is." I'm sure she doesn't want to say anything that can come back to bite her later. I work with clients all day long in a social services capacity, so I understand not want to state anything definite or make a promise I can't keep. She did say the lump was very close to the surface and that it could be a skin issue. A fatty lump maybe? I read about that somewhere. If it is that....than fat is my favorite word!! LOL.
Dr. said something about a biopsy but that the surgeon would make that decision. The most positive thing she said was that she felt nothing in the nodes and that even if it turned out to be cancer, cancer is no longer the death sentence it used to be. I have mammo and ultrasound sceduled for Monday. Then I'm going to contact surgeon. Somehow I have to time this so I have results from lab to bring to surgeon. I have informed my boss and I have a ton of vacation and sick time on the books so I don't have to worry about losing pay if I have to take time off.
My sister was sympathetic but she is so overwhelmed with her own issues, I really didn't expect too much from her. My 16 year old daughter, however, has been amazing. She has always been amazing, but especially wonderful about this. I told her over the weekend and she said she had "a good feeling" about the whole thing.
I've had three children, all natural childbirth and I must say that pregnancy and delivery was very easy for me all three times. I was lucky. I'm not looking forward to the boob squooshing...but I know it's necessary. Hopefully, I 'll have good answers by the end of next week. I'm trying to stay as positive as possible because....really the stress of worrying is not helping me. It's just a waste of energy. Thanks for your response!
Karen03
Oct 2 2007, 10:10 PM
((((((HUGS))))) Wintermoon ~
Do NOT beat yourself up! With all that we, as ladies, have to deal with, guilt is just another wasted emotion! And besides, there's absolutely nothing to feel guilty about.
Most of my friends (who are in their 40's) haven't even had their first mammogram. In fact, it wasn't until I had a bit of a scare back in July, that they even thought about it. Of course now they are all rushing in!
I have had many fibercystic.......(can't remember the exact name), that amount to absolutely nothing! What I had, sounds exactly the same as what you are describing. They are so common, and most importantly, absolutely harmless!
Nobody can convince you that worrying is a waste of time. Of course you're going to worry, who wouldn't!?! Just remember, the chances of this amounting to anything, are so slim. If anything, this will be a bit of a wake-up call, and you'll get in there annually. Believe me, these wake-up calls can be absolutely mind-blowing!!! I worked myself up so much, that it took so long to come back down. In a nutshell.....they found something on my mammogram, brought me in for another and an ultrasound, scheduled a stereotactic biopsy, I was convinced my life was over. I left the day of my biopsy without any procedure whatsoever. What they found on the x-ray, disappeared, it was nothing!
Hang-in-there, and know that you have an amazing support system.
Please keep up posted.......
Karen
jv_98
Oct 3 2007, 01:01 AM
QUOTE (Wintermoon @ Sep 26 2007, 01:15 PM)

Hi. I've been a long time lurker, rarely post but always like reading the information on this website and these message boards.
Monday morning I found what I feel is a substantial lump on the underside of my right breast very near where the bottom of my bra sits. I've told no one (except everyone who reads this board I guess! lol) My mother suffers from dementia and is difficult to communicate with, my sister is overwhelmed with taking care of my mother (who lives with her) and her own family. I've been a single mother for 15 years and my three children are grown or nearly grown. Oldest son is out on his own with his own family, my middle son is a freshman in college and my daugher is a high school junior. I've said nothing to them as I don't want to frighten or burden them right now. I've thought about calling my two closest friends, but I am reluctant to do so because I'm feeling guilty. I'm one of those people who never go to the doctor. Mostly, because I'm almost never sick. I did have a general physical a year ago, but I haven't been to a gynocologist in well....years (I'm 48). No annual checkup, no mammograms...nothing. I feel stupid and almost like I deserve this for not taking care of myself. There was always something more important...usually with regard to the kids. They have always and still do come first. The funny thing is that I'm extremely well informed with regard to nutrition and exercise. I've been vegetarian for years, don't smoke or drink. I have no excuses. I assume I'm perimenopausal (but really how would I know as I haven't discussed with a doctor) and I have no perimenopausal symptoms really, still have regular periods and as I said before in good health...or so I thought. I have made an appointment with a woman gynocologist I'd heard about through co-workers for next Tuesday. I did tell the receptionist about the lump and my not seeing a doctor in quite some time. She didn't scream at me, so I'm hoping the doctor will not lecture. She couldn't beat me up anymore than I am beating up myself right now. Of course, I don't know what I am dealing with here with regard to this issue. I've read so much on the internet, my head is spinning. I don't know what to think and I'm terrified. I know that all I can do right now is wait.
I guess I'm writing here because I have to let it out somewhere and you are all so supportive of one another. Thanks for reading.
Hi, don't beat yourself up for the past; just get the care you need now. I know that's easy to say and much harder to do but really the only moment you have is now. You need to take care of you. I have a very hard time asking for help and recently have been so overwhelmend with perimenopause that I have reached out in different ways. I have to; educating myself and also listening to what others are going through, calms the fears. A friend of mine had breast cancer for 11 years an never knew it. I was terrified at the idea of a mammogram but went and gosh, the exam was okay; the woman doing it is so good and kind; the emotional part was the hard part. I thought for sure, I would never go but just did with tremendous fear. I hope you can share what you are going through with people close to you and will keep you in my thoughts.
Jan
bluewillow
Oct 3 2007, 11:20 AM
QUOTE (Wintermoon @ Oct 2 2007, 11:29 AM)

Update:
I saw gyno this a.m. I did like her very much. Non-judgemental, very kind. She really couldn't tell me what it was (which I suspected). She did say that if it was cancer then it would be the first time she ever saw cancer in that area of the breast. It's on the underside where there is nothing but fat (according to the pictures I saw online). She also said that it could actually be a skin issue. It's very close to the surface. She said she didn't feel anything in the nodes. Which is good, right? She was vague, but I kind of expected that. She's sending me for mammo and ultra sound. I've already made the appointment for Monday. Then I have to contact breast surgeon. She gave me a list of surgeons and fortunately the co-worker who recommended the gyno has had one of the surgeons and said she is excellent, so that's who I'm going with. She didn't mention anything about needing a referral. Do I ask Breast Surgeon office that? I'm so unfamiliar with all this medical stuff. I don't understand how referrals work either. Maybe I'll call my provider and ask.
So we wait. Can anyone here give me info on how the mammo and ultra sound will go? So I know what to expect?
Thanks for all your kindness. There is wonderful support here and it has helped tremendously.
Hey Wintermoon,
I 'm glad you got to see the gyno and that you have good feelings about her. That makes a world of difference. Although my surgeon/oncologist is a great and skilled doctor, I'm not fond of his demeanor, but his staff more than makes up for that. So you're ahead of the game. And she is being very thorough by admitting that she did not know what it is and thankfully she is having you checked out thoroughly. And any questions you have about procedures, referrals, etc. , ask the breast surgeon! Ask until you get answers even if it means making a pest of yourself (which I'm sure you won't be)
And you will do fine with the mammo and the ultrasound! Robin has described those very well! Just keep in mind that the waiting on the test results is the worse, far beyond any small amount of physical procedure or discomfort you might encounter. I have a really good feeling that things will go well for you, as they did for Karen03!!! Just remember you are taking control NOW and taking care of yourself NOW and there are so many women out there that aren't!
I hope I've helped some and please PM me anytime. And please keep us updated and let us know how you are doing!!
Hugs,
Mary Jo
Wintermoon
Oct 8 2007, 12:02 PM
I've just come back from mammo and ultrasound. First, I must say that the technicians were very kind and nice but I'm now more frightened than ever. They kept taking more and more pictures and not just of the right breast where the lump is but also the left breast where they saw "a cluster of cells" and "a shadow". I was able to get a print out of the ultrasound to take with me (have to wait on the mammogram results, but should have them and a report on Wednesday) and when I look at the "cluster of cells" on the ultrasound it looks like a black hole to me. Of course, I don't know what I'm doing. I never could see the baby in my sonograms either. Most of the time it just looked like a blob and I had to go by what they told me.
I burst into tears when I left the place. I know they can't tell you anything, but the fact that they kept taking more pictures and then after I had ultrasound and was getting ready to leave, they called me back in to take more ultrasound pictures. This doesn't sound good and now I have to worry about what was going on in the left breast as well as the right. I have a list of breast surgeons before me, given to me by the gynocologist. The one I wanted to choose doesn't take insurance anymore. Any insurance. The others are just a list of strangers. There are two other women on the list, I'm going to call one of them today.
Any insight you guys can share would be really helpful. Thanks.
ShakingInHouston
Oct 8 2007, 12:13 PM
Wintermoon:
I really have no insight into this though I am sure many ladies on the forum do. I can offer you a BIG hug though. Take a deep breath and remind yourself that even if it is serious these things are now very curable. Hugs and prayers for you...
Shakin'
Wintermoon
Oct 8 2007, 12:38 PM
Thanks Shakin'
I've called the surgeon that does not take insurance. Actually, she does take insurance but she is out of network for my particular insurance. I've made the appointment anyway. The receptionist at her office was unbelievable nice and said they work with patients on their bills. (She's $400 for the office visit!!!) Everyone has told me she is the best and she is a she which counts a lot for me. She can see me Thursday. I would imagine that depending on what she tells me, if I want to see another surgeon in network I could do that as well. I believe I'll get a second opinion no matter what she advises.
I'm done crying now. I have to be grown up and face this..whatever it is.
Jonie
Oct 8 2007, 12:56 PM
(((((Wintermoon)))))
Loads of hugs and prayers coming your way.
This is a very stressful time - be kind to yourself and if you feel like crying, do so!
You're amazingly courageous the way you're facing this and posting here.
I pray that your family and friends are supporting you and that your doctor will be wise and that she'll be able to put your mind at rest.
God bless you, Jonie
RoundRobin
Oct 8 2007, 01:46 PM
Wintermoon: Please don't assume the worst. It can be very hard to get a good image on an ultrasound and with so many people anxious to sue their doctors over any sort of misdiagnosis, technicians are trying extra hard to get clean, easy to read pictures.
Reading ultrasounds and xrays is not an exact science...there can be a tremendous difference of opinion from one radiologist to the next. I too, took home my ultrasounds and spent days staring at the dark shadows,not knowing what the heck I was seeing.
If detected early, breast cancer is over 95% curable. Contrary to popular believe, the majority of breast cancers are very slow growing. And I'm not even saying you HAVE breast cancer.
Right now, your life is divided into two major categories: The things you can control, and the things you can't. Interpreting your ultrasounds are in the latter category. As hard as this may seem, you have to find a way to compartmentalize this fear and go on living. I know how hard it is, believe me, I have been where you are (and worse...remember, I had dark blood oozing out of my left nipple...I couldn't even change my clothes without sqeezing my eyes shut!). What ever happens, you will deal with it. But you don't even know what you're dealing with yet. Distract yourself...keep busy. Keep posting here.
You'll get through this, hon, I PROMISE. I'm praying for you...
Robin
Wintermoon
Oct 8 2007, 02:04 PM
Thanks Jonie and RoundRobin.
I guess I'm thrown by what they see or think they see in the left breast. I was so focused on the lump in the right breast that I guess I never considered they find something in the left. The technician said that the lump in the right breast seemed like scar tissue and asked if I had had surgery. The only surgery I've ever had was gallbladder removal laproscopically (sorry I probably butchered the spelling). Now I'm thinking that I have issues in both breasts....well, at least I don't have to wait too long to see surgeon. I would imagine she will recommend biopsy, but I don't know.
Also, has anyone else had discomfort after mammograpy? They sure did have to mash my breasts and also the woman pressed really hard when doing ultrasound...so my breasts are feeling a little sensitive. I do have to say that honestly the mammo was far less unpleasant than I imagined it to be.
Thank you all for your posts.
Wintermoon
Oct 10 2007, 02:01 PM
I picked up my mammo pictures and reports for both mammo and ultrasound. I am tempted to read the reports, but I am afraid they will make me crazy especially since I won't understand all the medical jargon. I am seeing a breast surgeon tomorrow (I've heard mixed reviews from others about her) and I am seeing another surgeon on Monday in another county (surgeon is in network for insurance). I hope to know something tomorrow.
Today my breasts have been very painful. It's like a burning pain, mostly in the right where the lump is...but also to a lesser degree in the left where the "shadow" is. I've had this pain a little bit in the past but not like today. Could this be result of mammo and ultrasound? I'm sure it is intensified because of the worry of not knowing what is going on and the stress of this I'm sure is adding to my discomfort whether real or imagined.
Jonie
Oct 10 2007, 03:43 PM
Just to wish you good luck tomorrow, Wintermoon.
Take something so that you can sleep tonight, no good worrying all night!
The pain is probably from those mammos, but you could ask the surgeon tomorrow.
Sending prayers and hugs your way.
God bless you!
Jonie
EveningPrimrose
Oct 15 2007, 05:54 PM
Wintermoon - I can't offer you anything other than a warm ((((Hug)))) .. I can tell you that most lumps turn out to be benign - I think Robin and some other ladies have already mentioned this - I know the fear of having a lump in the breast... I've had this experience too and it turned out to be a nodule ... whatever that is! Anyway, we are all here for you..
Let us know how you're doing -
Gez~
RoundRobin
Oct 16 2007, 08:30 AM
Winermoon: How are you doing? Did you see the surgeon? Please let us know...we're all praying for you!
Wintermoon
Oct 16 2007, 09:29 AM
Thanks RoundRobin and everyone on this board who sent their prayers and good wishes.
I did see surgeon yesterday. She was wonderful and spent nearly an hour with me! What doctor does that? She is in the next county but she is in network with my insurance which is a good thing.
She is 99% certain that the palpable lump in my right breast is Stage II Breast Cancer. She took the time to show me all the pictures (mammo and ultrasound) and went over everything. The nodule in my left breast, she believes is a cyst. I will have to be biopsied in both breasts and receive MRI. Then a decision will be made as to whether I will have lumpectomy or total breast removal. I will need radiation and chemo. How much and for how long will be determined by oncologist once we know exactly what we are dealing with. I did ask her if there was any chance that the lump in right breast could turn out to be benign. She said no. She was straight with me and up front and I appreciate that.
Again, I thank you all for your kindness. If anyone is in touch with bluewillow, let her know I sent her a pm. I believe that she and I are pretty much in the same boat and I'd really like to talk to her. I also know she is engaged in her own battle right now.
I have to believe that I have been given this challenge for a reason. I have to believe that I will survive this battle. Again, thank you all for your support.
booboolena1
Oct 16 2007, 11:03 AM
Meryl
Oct 16 2007, 11:10 AM
Wintermoon, I'm so sorry to hear this, but it does sound like you are in really good hands. I will pray that everything goes well for you.
Much love and many hugs,
Meryl
EveningPrimrose
Oct 16 2007, 11:51 AM
(((Wintermoon))) - so sorry to hear about this news ... I will keep you in my prayers and keep checking in on this thread to see how your doing. The best thing about this board is the wonderful supportive ladies here! We are all here for you!
Gez~
robin07
Oct 16 2007, 11:55 AM
Wintermoon sending prayers, hugs and best wishes to you. I am so pleased that you have a wonderful surgeon who will spend time with you.
love
robin
orngkat06
Oct 16 2007, 12:08 PM
My personal belief is that when potential surgery is involved that it is always good to get a second or even third opinion.
Wintermoon
Oct 16 2007, 12:15 PM
Thank you all for your kind words and good wishes.
orngkat06: This was my second opinion. First surgeon was not in network (insurance wise) but I went to her anyway because I was told she was the best surgeon in my county. She was nice but brief with me...maybe 10 minutes. She was also much more vague. She did make a face when she looked at the lump. That made me nervous. Now I know why she made the face. The doctor I saw yesterday said there was evidence of the skin pulling in (a sign of cancer). I like this doctor because she isn't afraid to say what she thinks or give me her opinion. She also did not rush me at all and her staff was also great. But I agree with you completely. Second opinions are important and any doctor worth their salt would not object.
Careergrl
Oct 16 2007, 01:01 PM
Wintermoon...Beautiful name. I will contact BlueWillow for you by e mail. I know she is undergoing chemo right now and I have been in Europe for almost three weeks so have been out of the loop for awhile. I will tell her that you are wanting to talk to her. My prayers and positive thoughts go out to you at this time.
Hugs,
SusanC
Wintermoon
Oct 16 2007, 02:31 PM
Thank you so much Susan. You have been in Europe...I am so jealous!
TeeJay
Oct 16 2007, 02:46 PM
Wintermoon,
My mother had stage II breast cancer with microscopic amounts present in her lymphnodes. Her cancer did not show on the mammogram at all. She had her mammo's religiously and the cancer was only detected when her nipple inverted. It showed on a subsequent ultrasound. She underwent a lumpectomy, chemo and radiation. She was nauseated from the chemo and she lost all of her hair. She purchased two wigs...one that looked like her natural hair and another that looked a bit "wild". Mom said the wild one made her look more like her sister...then she told me that without the wig (when she was bald) that she looked more like her dad (my grandpa)
That was six years ago. She is doing well and other than some weight gain from her meds (and too much ice cream) she looks great. Her hair came back and she's feeling fine.
Stay optimistic. It sounds like you have a diagnosis, and found a great surgeon that you like. Plan your course of action, rest and stay positive. My mother is just one of many women who have faced what you are facing now who have came out just fine. God bless....
TeeJay
Bigheart
Oct 16 2007, 02:50 PM
Hi Wintermoon,
I want to echo everyone else here and say that you are truly in my prayers. I have been following this thread and I was praying for good news. Just keep on believing that you are going to beat this and I will be believing it with you. Take care and many, many hugs.
Bigheart
bluewillow
Oct 16 2007, 05:52 PM
Hi Wintermoon, Bluewillow here! I am so so sorry I haven't checked in often, as I promised. I am so sorry to hear that you didn't get better news, but there is so much hope for you! And you've got a good surgeon. You will know much more after your biopsy and MRI, but don't rush your decision about the surgery. And ask all the questions you need to-- and write them down if necessary! I have done this every dr. visit and he or the nurse pracitioners are happy to read them and actually write down the answers for me. If you've got good communication going, that is a huge plus!!
I had a stereotactic core biopsy, a lumpectomy, then a re-excision (this time the surgery got all the cancer). My doctor advised chemo and radiation just as precaution to get rid of any stray cancer cells and to prevent recurrence.
An old dear friend of mine has told me the same thing about me being given this challenge for a reason. I can already see how it has made me stronger in so many ways, and much more compassionate for others' problems.
I will tell you that chemo is not near as bad as I anticipated, I haven't been sick beyond just a bit of queasiness, no mouth sores-- the worse complaint I've had is constipation because of all the medicines

Of course my hair is gone but I've got lots of colorful scarves and hats. And I have worked every day except the days of my chemo and I take half a day off for my Neulasta shot that boosts my white blood count. My treatments are every two weeks four times, then weekly for 12 weeks, then radiation, and I can't believe how the time has flown by already. And I have heard that radiation is a walk in the park compared to the chemo! I will also have to take Herceptin for a year, because my tumor is HER-2 positive (somewhat more aggressive than HER-2 negative, but the Herceptin works wonders for that now), and my tumor is also ER and PR negative, and all that plays a part in the treatment plans. Sorry I have talked just about me here, but may be some of this will help encourage you!
And I will tell you what my surgeon's nurse told me-- she said Stage I, II, and III can all be cured! That is so encouraging and like TeeJay said, there are so many women who have beat this thing and are doing fine! So, you hang in there and I am sending thoughts and prayers your way. Please PM me again-- I promise to check in more often.
Love and hugs,
from Mary Jo
QUOTE (Wintermoon @ Oct 16 2007, 09:29 AM)

Thanks RoundRobin and everyone on this board who sent their prayers and good wishes.
I did see surgeon yesterday. She was wonderful and spent nearly an hour with me! What doctor does that? She is in the next county but she is in network with my insurance which is a good thing.
She is 99% certain that the palpable lump in my right breast is Stage II Breast Cancer. She took the time to show me all the pictures (mammo and ultrasound) and went over everything. The nodule in my left breast, she believes is a cyst. I will have to be biopsied in both breasts and receive MRI. Then a decision will be made as to whether I will have lumpectomy or total breast removal. I will need radiation and chemo. How much and for how long will be determined by oncologist once we know exactly what we are dealing with. I did ask her if there was any chance that the lump in right breast could turn out to be benign. She said no. She was straight with me and up front and I appreciate that.
Again, I thank you all for your kindness. If anyone is in touch with bluewillow, let her know I sent her a pm. I believe that she and I are pretty much in the same boat and I'd really like to talk to her. I also know she is engaged in her own battle right now.
I have to believe that I have been given this challenge for a reason. I have to believe that I will survive this battle. Again, thank you all for your support.
Ivy lena
Oct 16 2007, 08:03 PM
Hi Wintermoon, I have been following your posts, and I just wanted to tell you how brave I think you are. I know you are going to be fine, the Doctors you have sound great and this is so treatable now with all the high tech meds. and treatments for this. Your going to do great, and your in my prayers.
QUOTE (Wintermoon @ Oct 16 2007, 09:29 AM)

Thanks RoundRobin and everyone on this board who sent their prayers and good wishes.
I did see surgeon yesterday. She was wonderful and spent nearly an hour with me! What doctor does that? She is in the next county but she is in network with my insurance which is a good thing.
She is 99% certain that the palpable lump in my right breast is Stage II Breast Cancer. She took the time to show me all the pictures (mammo and ultrasound) and went over everything. The nodule in my left breast, she believes is a cyst. I will have to be biopsied in both breasts and receive MRI. Then a decision will be made as to whether I will have lumpectomy or total breast removal. I will need radiation and chemo. How much and for how long will be determined by oncologist once we know exactly what we are dealing with. I did ask her if there was any chance that the lump in right breast could turn out to be benign. She said no. She was straight with me and up front and I appreciate that.
Again, I thank you all for your kindness. If anyone is in touch with bluewillow, let her know I sent her a pm. I believe that she and I are pretty much in the same boat and I'd really like to talk to her. I also know she is engaged in her own battle right now.
I have to believe that I have been given this challenge for a reason. I have to believe that I will survive this battle. Again, thank you all for your support.
Wintermoon
Oct 16 2007, 08:32 PM
Bluewillow, thank you so much. Check your pm I've sent you a message.
Ivy lena, I know your sister is going through a tough time right now. Thank you for your kind words and thoughts.
With all the reading I've been doing the last few days on this site and others, I am still stunned by the sheer number of women dealing with this cancer. Women who are older than I and many, many young women in their 20's and 30's. I'm only at the beginning of my fight but already it has changed how I look at everything. I had a long talk with my oldest son last night (he's 24). He was a bit of a challenge as a teen (huge understatement) but he has grown into a thoughtful young man. We were trying to focus on the positives of this situation and I realized that had I found this lump six months or a year from now I could be looking at a Stage III cancer. If I'd had this happen 10 years ago when he was 14 and his brother was 9 and his sister 6 how much more of a stressful situation it would have been as I wasn't nearly as financially stable as I am now. (I've been a single mother for 15 years and although I'm nowhere near wealthy, I can hold my own and pay my bills) So, in a bizarre way...this is a much better time for this to happen.
To all of you who have sent your prayers and good thoughts -- I thank you with all my heart. I will continue to post updates here until you all tell me to go away or the webmistress shuts me down...
candies 123
Oct 16 2007, 08:45 PM
Wintermoon
Know that all of us ladies at power-surge are wishing you all good things and the easiest of times ahead. My mother in law had a mastectomy in 1969(I believe that was the year) She has been cancer free from that point on-shes still keepin on keepin on a mere 83 years young. Also my gf Linda had a lumpectomy about 8 years ago and I wanted to let you know that she is just fine as well, cancer free since then also. So positive good wishes and thoughts to come your way. I just know youre going to be fine with this and caught early youre going to do very well I'm sure. Also just a footnote, I don't know if you remember but my hubby had esophageal cancer diagnosed about 3 years ago. It had entered 1 lymph node and just to let you know that hes doing just fine- so these are all positive stories for you to keep in the back of your head and whatever treatment or road you continue on with this I'm sure you will do just fine. Please keep us ladies all posted here -we're throwing all good things your way -good thoughts prayers and wishes to come your way. Love and hugs, Betsy(Candies 123)
Marrin7
Oct 17 2007, 10:20 AM
Best wishes to you Wintermoon
Jonie
Oct 17 2007, 04:05 PM
((((Wintermoon)))) and ((((Bluewillow))))
Just wanted to send you both loads of hugs and prayers.
You are both such strong courageous women, I admire you!
Jonie
Wintermoon
Oct 17 2007, 06:33 PM
Brief update:
I was finally contacted by the hospital that I was going to go to for my biopsies. They couldn't schedule anything earlier than next Wednesday. I did tell them that the breast surgeon wanted me biopsied no later than Monday. They said they would try and get me in earlier. This hospital like my surgeon is in the next county.
Meanwhile, my phone rang and it was one of the breast surgeon's staff asking if I had made the appointment for biopsy. I told her what they had said and she told me she'd call me back. Not 20 minutes later she called me to tell me that the surgeon had a radiologist colleague who works in the hospital IN MY TOWN who although she was not working this week would come in and biopsy me THIS Friday!
Wow. So I'm all set. Biopsy set for Friday afternoon. This is so much more convenient. I can't believe how quickly they put this together for me. I think I made the right choice of surgeons. Receiving much support from family, co-workers and all of you here on this site.
The universe is truly pulling together to help me and I am sincerely grateful.
Later...
Ivy lena
Oct 17 2007, 08:00 PM
Wintermoon, thats fantastic!! Everything is pulling together for you, Im so glad you will not have to wait. Everything is going to be fine, Im sending a big hug!
QUOTE (Wintermoon @ Oct 17 2007, 06:33 PM)

Brief update:
I was finally contacted by the hospital that I was going to go to for my biopsies. They couldn't schedule anything earlier than next Wednesday. I did tell them that the breast surgeon wanted me biopsied no later than Monday. They said they would try and get me in earlier. This hospital like my surgeon is in the next county.
Meanwhile, my phone rang and it was one of the breast surgeon's staff asking if I had made the appointment for biopsy. I told her what they had said and she told me she'd call me back. Not 20 minutes later she called me to tell me that the surgeon had a radiologist colleague who works in the hospital IN MY TOWN who although she was not working this week would come in and biopsy me THIS Friday!
Wow. So I'm all set. Biopsy set for Friday afternoon. This is so much more convenient. I can't believe how quickly they put this together for me. I think I made the right choice of surgeons. Receiving much support from family, co-workers and all of you here on this site.
The universe is truly pulling together to help me and I am sincerely grateful.
Later...
RoundRobin
Oct 18 2007, 06:49 AM
Wintermoon: I just read through all the posts since you got the news. You are a courageous and amazing woman. And it sounds like you have a very competent and assertive surgical team. One of my friends had stage II breast cancer...she just passed her five year-cancer-free mark. Stage II cancers are usually confined to the area; they haven't spread yet; which is good news. And the cure rate is near 90 percent. You have a great attitude---please know that you are in my thoughts and prayers. Keep us posted. And if you ever want to talk one-on-one, PM me anytime.
I'll be keeping close to this thread to see how you are doing---!!!
(((((Wintermoon))))))
-Robin
TeeJay
Oct 18 2007, 08:18 AM
Wintermoon,
If you are like my mom was...the sooner you get this all rolling the better, for many reasons. I am glad that things are moving quickly and that you are happy with things so far. I will keep you in thought and prayer. Hang in there and God bless..
TeeJay
Wintermoon
Oct 19 2007, 09:28 PM
Biopsy update:
Had biopsy this afternoon. Radiologist and nurses were wonderful. The good news is that the nodule they saw in the left breast was a cyst. They aspirated that one right out. The small nodule they found next to the lump I found was also a cyst and they actually popped that one trying to aspirate it out. The original lump that I found is most certainly cancer. But they got a good amount of samples for biopsy.
Should have results by Tuesday or Wednesday next week. If anyone reading this thread has a biopsy scheduled, I can tell you this: It's not bad at all! I actually feel just fine. I might be a bit sore tomorrow but overall it was fairly easy. There is nothing left to do but wait now and then proceed with whatever will be next. I believe an MRI is the next step. Then surgery and the scary part...the treatment.
But right now, I'm Ok.
Once again, thank you all for your words of support, your prayers and your kindness.
Ivy lena
Oct 19 2007, 10:11 PM
Oh Wintermoon, that is good news about the other two that were just cystic. You are so brave and your attitude is so inspirational, I have tears in my eyes. I know everything is going to be fine and you are going to come through this! Sending hugs and prayers.
Ivy
QUOTE (Wintermoon @ Oct 19 2007, 09:28 PM)

Biopsy update:
Had biopsy this afternoon. Radiologist and nurses were wonderful. The good news is that the nodule they saw in the left breast was a cyst. They aspirated that one right out. The small nodule they found next to the lump I found was also a cyst and they actually popped that one trying to aspirate it out. The original lump that I found is most certainly cancer. But they got a good amount of samples for biopsy.
Should have results by Tuesday or Wednesday next week. If anyone reading this thread has a biopsy scheduled, I can tell you this: It's not bad at all! I actually feel just fine. I might be a bit sore tomorrow but overall it was fairly easy. There is nothing left to do but wait now and then proceed with whatever will be next. I believe an MRI is the next step. Then surgery and the scary part...the treatment.
But right now, I'm Ok.
Once again, thank you all for your words of support, your prayers and your kindness.