I got tired of feeling old and looking old so I decided to do something about it. After a lot of looking around and research I found the right answer for me. I went on a seven day organic juice fast. Not only did I lose 15 pounds but I also turned the clock back on my health - at least 10 years.
I have energy I thought I had lost forever. I also am not bothered with depression, aches and pains that were common - I could go on and on.
It has been 6 weeks since I fasted for 7 days. Since then I have fasted 1-2 days a week and have lost 30 pounds all together. I am determined to ditch the old lady look and feel and age gracefully. Now I know that I can achieve my goals through fasting.
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Hi incite!
What's an organic juice fast?
I wouldn't know how to survive this day without my lovely chocolate, let alone 7 days!
You have certainly got an iron will!
I find I get very dizzy and feel sick if I don't have a snack every 2 hours or so...
Tell us more about this, please!
And congratulations to all that loss of weight!
Jonie
What's an organic juice fast?
I wouldn't know how to survive this day without my lovely chocolate, let alone 7 days!
You have certainly got an iron will!
I find I get very dizzy and feel sick if I don't have a snack every 2 hours or so...
Tell us more about this, please!
And congratulations to all that loss of weight!
Jonie
QUOTE (Jonie @ Aug 27 2007, 11:07 PM) 
Hi incite!
What's an organic juice fast?
I wouldn't know how to survive this day without my lovely chocolate, let alone 7 days!
You have certainly got an iron will!
I find I get very dizzy and feel sick if I don't have a snack every 2 hours or so...
Tell us more about this, please!
And congratulations to all that loss of weight!
Jonie
What's an organic juice fast?
I wouldn't know how to survive this day without my lovely chocolate, let alone 7 days!
You have certainly got an iron will!
I find I get very dizzy and feel sick if I don't have a snack every 2 hours or so...
Tell us more about this, please!
And congratulations to all that loss of weight!
Jonie
Hey, Jonie,
I'm with you. If I don't eat frequently I experience faintness and other symptoms.
I have read that fasting can be a good thing for some people. I am all for what works!
If I did this, though, I bet that I would just reduce my metabolic rate and regain weight quickly once I started eating normally.
Colleen
My brother once went a a macrobiotic diet to reverse recurring manic attacks and drug toxicity. I watched something very similar to what Incite describes happen to him. It was wonderful to see he skin tone change and a lot of craziness drain out of his system. I don't know exactly how a juice fast works, but you all should pay attention to this. The 10-year health improvement she notes is not a fantasy. It reminds me that I've been meaning to get beets and eat a raw slice each day to clean out my liver. I'm not a health nut--I just had a huge plate of ham and eggs with a beer for lunch--but these vegetable treatments do work when you need them and you can do them as a temporary project; you don't have to take all the fun out of your life.
Any fast works by similar mechanism: it mimics starvation and jump starts ketosis. This will get body into "fat burning" mode instead of normal "glucose burning" and jump-start weight loss.
Many benefits of ketosis to "calm down" brain and autonomic system hyperactivity were described before, including use of velow carb/high fat diet to eliminate seizure in epileptics.
Ketosis will also force liver to burn all the indigested protein, impurity, in another words do the major cleaning and prepare for famine. In transition, without adequate protein intake you will lose precious muscles, so all the weightt gained back ( make no mistake about it) will be pure FAT.
I have tried juice fast and it made me insanely hungry, it is certainly easier to do just water fast, ketosis suppresses hunger.
So if one wants to rip benefits of the same mechanism without being insanely hungry, why not to try very low carbohydrate diet what and dairy free: meat, fish, eggs, non-starchy veggies and lots of good fats. Try to keep carbs below 50g daily, even better 30 g, and you will get same results and never be hungry.
Ketone bodies also will make one's mood more even, similar to hibernation, sleep is better, anxiety is down, etc.
I have read books on juice fasting, cleansing diets, etc. and tried some, not a magic bullet IMHO. Weight lost will be regained and missing nutritions will have certain side effects later.
I think intermittent fasting (IF) is better idea, combined with low carb diet, produces long standing results, and preserves muscle mass unlikely regular fast with or without juice, especially if it is fruit juice, which is too much sugar.
Most benefits come from easing up overworked liver, so it is process fat better.
Anyways, as usual, just my humble opinion.
Cheers,
I.
Many benefits of ketosis to "calm down" brain and autonomic system hyperactivity were described before, including use of velow carb/high fat diet to eliminate seizure in epileptics.
Ketosis will also force liver to burn all the indigested protein, impurity, in another words do the major cleaning and prepare for famine. In transition, without adequate protein intake you will lose precious muscles, so all the weightt gained back ( make no mistake about it) will be pure FAT.
I have tried juice fast and it made me insanely hungry, it is certainly easier to do just water fast, ketosis suppresses hunger.
So if one wants to rip benefits of the same mechanism without being insanely hungry, why not to try very low carbohydrate diet what and dairy free: meat, fish, eggs, non-starchy veggies and lots of good fats. Try to keep carbs below 50g daily, even better 30 g, and you will get same results and never be hungry.
Ketone bodies also will make one's mood more even, similar to hibernation, sleep is better, anxiety is down, etc.
I have read books on juice fasting, cleansing diets, etc. and tried some, not a magic bullet IMHO. Weight lost will be regained and missing nutritions will have certain side effects later.
I think intermittent fasting (IF) is better idea, combined with low carb diet, produces long standing results, and preserves muscle mass unlikely regular fast with or without juice, especially if it is fruit juice, which is too much sugar.
Most benefits come from easing up overworked liver, so it is process fat better.
Anyways, as usual, just my humble opinion.
Cheers,
I.
Can I ask what the beet thing is? Eating a slice a day helps clean the liver? Just raw beets? I never heard of this and was just wondering.
Thanks, Susie
Thanks, Susie
Yes, I was wondering on the beet thing too.
Thanks
Mopsy
Thanks
Mopsy
A young friend of mine who was in the Peace Corps in Africa told me about it as if it was common knowledge. I don't know if this is a younger generation health food thing--as in raw diet (probably), or something he discovered overseas. Apparently something in the raw beets cleans the liver. He said you don't want to get excited and overdo it, since you'll turn pink. Just a slice or two a day. That's all I know, but I've been meaning to try it since I take too much Ibuprofen.
It's not common knowledge, but it is apparently a common fantasy. 
The following is from the NY Times' Science section:
The following is from the NY Times' Science section:QUOTE
THE CLAIM -- Beet juice is good for the liver.
THE FACTS -- Nutritionists think this rumor may have originated in Russia, where there are large numbers of centenarians in certain regions, despite the popularity of vodka. Some think the diet, which is heavy in pickled beets and borscht, or beet soup, may explain why some of the people live so long.
Studies on mice have found that the pigment in red beets appears to elevate levels of an enzyme that helps fight cancer in liver cells. Other animal studies suggest that the pigment may help protect against colon cancer. But research shows that most people do not absorb the pigment, which passes through the digestive system with presumably no effect on the liver.
Beets are also packed with disease-fighting antioxidants, but so are most fruits and vegetables.
THE BOTTOM LINE -- Beet juice does not appear to have any special effects on the liver.
THE FACTS -- Nutritionists think this rumor may have originated in Russia, where there are large numbers of centenarians in certain regions, despite the popularity of vodka. Some think the diet, which is heavy in pickled beets and borscht, or beet soup, may explain why some of the people live so long.
Studies on mice have found that the pigment in red beets appears to elevate levels of an enzyme that helps fight cancer in liver cells. Other animal studies suggest that the pigment may help protect against colon cancer. But research shows that most people do not absorb the pigment, which passes through the digestive system with presumably no effect on the liver.
Beets are also packed with disease-fighting antioxidants, but so are most fruits and vegetables.
THE BOTTOM LINE -- Beet juice does not appear to have any special effects on the liver.
I'd like a diet of borscht and vodka.
QUOTE (Lanky @ Dec 17 2007, 10:03 PM)
I'd like a diet of borscht and vodka.
Hey, I am from Russia, and borscht is one of my favorite winter comfort food. Good borscht made with good beef bones and meat, mmmmmmm. Add some cured pork belly fat on a slice of good rye bread smeared with garlic, and and a shot of icy cold Grey Goose, a bowl of steaming borcht, yum.
On a serious side, no one can eat raw beets, only cooked. Beets have lots of antioxidants and lots of fiber, watch out not to eat too many if you are sensitive, LOL. I make very yummy cold summer beet soup, and love beets in salads or simply roasted with balsamic vinegar and olive oil.
Raw beets are not edible, same as eating raw potatoes. Raw beet juice does not taste that great either, but cooked beets are great and versatile addition to a healthy diet.
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Promote Optimal Health
The pigment that gives beets their rich, purple-crimson color—betacyanin—is also a powerful cancer-fighting agent. Beets' potential effectiveness against colon cancer, in particular, has been demonstrated in several studies.
In one study, animals under the double stress of chemically induced colon cancer and high cholesterol were divided into two groups. One group received a diet high in beet fiber while the other group served as a control. The beet fiber-fed animals rose to the challenge by increasing their activity of two antioxidant enzymes in the liver, glutathione peroxidase and glutathione-S-transferase. The liver is the body's primary detoxification organ where toxic substances are broken down and eliminated, a process that generates a lot of free radicals. Glutathione peroxidase and are the bodyguards for liver cells, protecting them from free radical attack, so they can continue to protect us.
In other animal studies, scientists have noted that animals fed beet fiber had an increase in their number of colonic CD8 cells, special immune cells responsible for detecting and eliminating abnormal cells. With the increased surveillance provided by these additional CD8 cells, the animals in one of the studies given beet fiber had fewer pre-cancerous changes.
In stomach cancer patients, when scientists compared the effects of fruit and vegetable juices on the formation of nitrosamines, cancer-causing compounds produced in the stomach from chemicals called nitrates, beet juice was found to be a potent inhibitor of the cell mutations caused by these compounds. Nitrates are commonly used as a chemical preservative in processed meats.
Protection Against Heart Disease
In the first study mentioned above, not only did protective antioxidant activity increase in the livers of beet fiber-fed animals, but also their total cholesterol dropped 30%, their triglycerides dropped 40% (elevated triglycerides, the form in which fats are transported in the blood, are a significant risk factor for cardiovascular disease), and their HDL (beneficial cholesterol) level increased significantly.
The pigment that gives beets their rich, purple-crimson color—betacyanin—is also a powerful cancer-fighting agent. Beets' potential effectiveness against colon cancer, in particular, has been demonstrated in several studies.
In one study, animals under the double stress of chemically induced colon cancer and high cholesterol were divided into two groups. One group received a diet high in beet fiber while the other group served as a control. The beet fiber-fed animals rose to the challenge by increasing their activity of two antioxidant enzymes in the liver, glutathione peroxidase and glutathione-S-transferase. The liver is the body's primary detoxification organ where toxic substances are broken down and eliminated, a process that generates a lot of free radicals. Glutathione peroxidase and are the bodyguards for liver cells, protecting them from free radical attack, so they can continue to protect us.
In other animal studies, scientists have noted that animals fed beet fiber had an increase in their number of colonic CD8 cells, special immune cells responsible for detecting and eliminating abnormal cells. With the increased surveillance provided by these additional CD8 cells, the animals in one of the studies given beet fiber had fewer pre-cancerous changes.
In stomach cancer patients, when scientists compared the effects of fruit and vegetable juices on the formation of nitrosamines, cancer-causing compounds produced in the stomach from chemicals called nitrates, beet juice was found to be a potent inhibitor of the cell mutations caused by these compounds. Nitrates are commonly used as a chemical preservative in processed meats.
Protection Against Heart Disease
In the first study mentioned above, not only did protective antioxidant activity increase in the livers of beet fiber-fed animals, but also their total cholesterol dropped 30%, their triglycerides dropped 40% (elevated triglycerides, the form in which fats are transported in the blood, are a significant risk factor for cardiovascular disease), and their HDL (beneficial cholesterol) level increased significantly.
QUOTE (Lanky @ Dec 17 2007, 02:55 PM)
My brother once went a a macrobiotic diet to reverse recurring manic attacks and drug toxicity. I watched something very similar to what Incite describes happen to him. It was wonderful to see he skin tone change and a lot of craziness drain out of his system. I don't know exactly how a juice fast works, but you all should pay attention to this. The 10-year health improvement she notes is not a fantasy. It reminds me that I've been meaning to get beets and eat a raw slice each day to clean out my liver. I'm not a health nut--I just had a huge plate of ham and eggs with a beer for lunch--but these vegetable treatments do work when you need them and you can do them as a temporary project; you don't have to take all the fun out of your life.
Lanky,
I eat 2 fresh huge salads daily with pretty much everything and fruits, and in general, lots of produce, always ate this way. While I have decent skin and not too many wrinkles, it did not help me much to reverse clock 10 years, and I also eat beets daily, carrots, and all kind of vegetables.
Iradan: I LOVE beets; they're my secret obsession. I buy a jar of pickled beets and will eat the whole jar sometimes when no on is looking (no bowl; just me and a fork.) How do you make good borscht? This is a recipe I'd love to try, but I'm afraid I"d screw it up...
QUOTE (RoundRobin @ Dec 18 2007, 09:31 AM)
Iradan: I LOVE beets; they're my secret obsession. I buy a jar of pickled beets and will eat the whole jar sometimes when no on is looking (no bowl; just me and a fork.) How do you make good borscht? This is a recipe I'd love to try, but I'm afraid I"d screw it up...
Here's one I use Robin, and to add meat is optional.
1/2 head fresh green cabbage
1 medium beet
2 potatoes
1 medium carrot
2 small onions
2 cloves garlic
2 TBSP vinegar (acidity 3%)
2 TBSP tomato paste
1 TBSP fresh dill
2 TBSP fresh parsley
2 bay leaves
3 peppercorns black pepper
70-80 g vegetable oil
3 lt vegetable stock
2 TBSP sugar
salt and freshly ground black pepper, to taste
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1. Wash the beet and peel it. Do not throw away the skin. Cut the beet into julienne. In a large pan heat some oil, add the beet and cook until half done. Add 1 tablespoon of the tomato paste and stir, keep cooking for 3 to 5 minutes. Add 100 grams of the stock and cook for 10-15 minutes. Take off the stove.
2. Put the saved beet skin in a small saucepan. Add two cups of water and some sugar. Cook over medium heat for 15-20 minutes. At the end add 1 teaspoon of the vinegar. Strain and discard the beet skin and save the liquid.
3. Cut the onions and the carrot into julienne, heat some oil in the pan and cook the vegetables until half done, add the rest of the tomato paste, stir, cook for 5-7 minutes.
4. Slice the potatoes, shred the cabbage and finely mince the garlic.
5. In a large heavy pot boil the rest of the stock, add the bay leaves and the peppercorns and cook for 2-3 minutes. Add the potato slices together with some salt, return to boil and cook for another 2-3 minutes. Add the shredded cabbage and cook on a medium heat for 8-10 minutes. Add the beet and cook for 3-5 minutes. Add the carrot and the onions, return to boil. Add the liquid left from boiling the beet skin and cook for 2-3 minutes. Add sugar, salt, ground black pepper, finely chopped dill and parsley and the garlic. Bring to a boil. Add the rest of the vinegar.
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For what it is worth, I don't think fasting a good idea in meno/peri for me............just too radical for what I am feeling.
Viktoria
Vik: Thanks for the recipe! Does it really one have one beet in it? I thought borscht was made of tons of beets...
As for the fasting...I may try it after the New Year... 3 days perhaps...just water and electrolyties.
I find these days that eating very small meals, and even skipping dinner on most nights is making me feel much better.
Much as this makes ME feel like an "old lady", I have discovered that if I eat anything substantial after 6 pm, I'm going to have a bad night....cramping, bloating, insomnia, restlessness. If I eat a big lunch, I have to engage in significant activity for a hour afterwards, or the same thing will happen.
Gone of the days of pizza at midnight...and it is a good thing, because it was a purely pleasure thing...and had nothing to do with what my body needed. These days, I'm only eating if I'm hungry, and then only enouigh to make the hunger pains go away...sometimes just a few bites. If the pangs return, a few more bites. If I go out to a restaurant and order a sandwhich, which of course comes with fries, I can eat half the sandwhich, and none of the fries. I can't believe I used to be able to eat a whole sandwhich and the side dish...now it would make me violently ill!
I wonder why this is happening...I mean, it feels more healthful, but why did my body only begin to react this way NOW? It calls on me for fuel, which I give it, then I stop. I've never been a 'snacker'; don't know why, just never developed the habit I guess...but I used to ENJOY eating...now I see myself at war with food. I have to maintain a high level of vigilance over what goes into my mouth or risk feeling very ill.
Anyone else going thru this?
As for the fasting...I may try it after the New Year... 3 days perhaps...just water and electrolyties.
I find these days that eating very small meals, and even skipping dinner on most nights is making me feel much better.
Much as this makes ME feel like an "old lady", I have discovered that if I eat anything substantial after 6 pm, I'm going to have a bad night....cramping, bloating, insomnia, restlessness. If I eat a big lunch, I have to engage in significant activity for a hour afterwards, or the same thing will happen.
Gone of the days of pizza at midnight...and it is a good thing, because it was a purely pleasure thing...and had nothing to do with what my body needed. These days, I'm only eating if I'm hungry, and then only enouigh to make the hunger pains go away...sometimes just a few bites. If the pangs return, a few more bites. If I go out to a restaurant and order a sandwhich, which of course comes with fries, I can eat half the sandwhich, and none of the fries. I can't believe I used to be able to eat a whole sandwhich and the side dish...now it would make me violently ill!
I wonder why this is happening...I mean, it feels more healthful, but why did my body only begin to react this way NOW? It calls on me for fuel, which I give it, then I stop. I've never been a 'snacker'; don't know why, just never developed the habit I guess...but I used to ENJOY eating...now I see myself at war with food. I have to maintain a high level of vigilance over what goes into my mouth or risk feeling very ill.
Anyone else going thru this?
When I was younger, I had a job where I worked every other day (M, W, F one week, T, Th, S, the next--9:00 a.m. to midnight). I put myself on a diet where I only had fluids on my days off. I ate regular on the days I worked. I lost a lot of weight--looked and felt great. It was a sort of way of fasting. I could never fast on just fruit juice without spending all of my time on the toilet and having painful stomach cramps. I have one juice glass of cranberry juice at breakfast every day and that is it. I have one more serving of whole fruit later in the day.
I'm not on my crazy diet anymore--and it shows.
Miss Tibbs
I'm not on my crazy diet anymore--and it shows.
Miss Tibbs
QUOTE (Miss Tibbs @ Dec 18 2007, 04:31 PM)
When I was younger, I had a job where I worked every other day (M, W, F one week, T, Th, S, the next--9:00 a.m. to midnight). I put myself on a diet where I only had fluids on my days off. I ate regular on the days I worked. I lost a lot of weight--looked and felt great. It was a sort of way of fasting. I could never fast on just fruit juice without spending all of my time on the toilet and having painful stomach cramps. I have one juice glass of cranberry juice at breakfast every day and that is it. I have one more serving of whole fruit later in the day.
I'm not on my crazy diet anymore--and it shows.
Miss Tibbs
I'm not on my crazy diet anymore--and it shows.
Miss Tibbs
It is what they call intermittent fasting, eating every other day but no juices, just water during the "day off". It is highly effective for weight loss and reduces insulin resistance. Many think now that we should not be having meals every day, sort of mimic natural food scarce as prehistorical humans did, and never got fat.
Hi, Re; raw beets. My H and I used to do a lot of juicing. We made a juice with 1 to 1/2 small raw beet, carrots, cucumber and lemon. I don't remember the exact amounts of each. Seems like we would put through the juicer maybe 1/2 to 1 small beet and the greens attached, maybe five carrots, one apple and a cucumber. What an energy boost!! You don't want to do beet juice alone, it should be mixed with other vegs and maybe an apple. Beet juice is a very powerful cleanser of the blood and kidneys, moderation is the key.
SusanC
SusanC
Thank you all for your support. The first debunking note was a bummer.
When I was younger and poor in wallet I lived on soup and bread--both homemade. I used the borscht recipe from the New York Times Cookbook ('70s edition). It's similar to Iradan's recipe, but uses more beets and no cabbage. Serve with lots of sour cream! All the other beet concoctions sound great, too. The cabbage reference has given me a Proustian flash to caraway coleslaw.
I hope my system doesn't shut down. At 52 I still eat everything at all hours. I don't think pleasure and health need to be on separate tracks. I've always loved vegetables and steak and pizza; juice and water and wine and beer. I think I would make a good Russian--great enjoyment rather than American food guilt. If people would just use fewer labor-saving devices--like cars and leaf-blowers--they could eat whatever they wanted. My sister talks about exercise and then will spend fifteen minutes driving around and around to find the parking space closest to the door of her mall. I always feel like diving out of the car like an endangered hitchhiker.
I have to admit though, that I'm encountering age in terms of more breakage than I used to have. I do all the same activities, but I'm getting a lot more muscle and tendon damage. Festina lente.
When I was younger and poor in wallet I lived on soup and bread--both homemade. I used the borscht recipe from the New York Times Cookbook ('70s edition). It's similar to Iradan's recipe, but uses more beets and no cabbage. Serve with lots of sour cream! All the other beet concoctions sound great, too. The cabbage reference has given me a Proustian flash to caraway coleslaw.
I hope my system doesn't shut down. At 52 I still eat everything at all hours. I don't think pleasure and health need to be on separate tracks. I've always loved vegetables and steak and pizza; juice and water and wine and beer. I think I would make a good Russian--great enjoyment rather than American food guilt. If people would just use fewer labor-saving devices--like cars and leaf-blowers--they could eat whatever they wanted. My sister talks about exercise and then will spend fifteen minutes driving around and around to find the parking space closest to the door of her mall. I always feel like diving out of the car like an endangered hitchhiker.
I have to admit though, that I'm encountering age in terms of more breakage than I used to have. I do all the same activities, but I'm getting a lot more muscle and tendon damage. Festina lente.
QUOTE (RoundRobin @ Dec 18 2007, 10:37 AM)
Vik: Thanks for the recipe! Does it really one have one beet in it? I thought borscht was made of tons of beets...
As for the fasting...I may try it after the New Year... 3 days perhaps...just water and electrolyties.
I find these days that eating very small meals, and even skipping dinner on most nights is making me feel much better.
Much as this makes ME feel like an "old lady", I have discovered that if I eat anything substantial after 6 pm, I'm going to have a bad night....cramping, bloating, insomnia, restlessness. If I eat a big lunch, I have to engage in significant activity for a hour afterwards, or the same thing will happen.
Gone of the days of pizza at midnight...and it is a good thing, because it was a purely pleasure thing...and had nothing to do with what my body needed. These days, I'm only eating if I'm hungry, and then only enouigh to make the hunger pains go away...sometimes just a few bites. If the pangs return, a few more bites. If I go out to a restaurant and order a sandwhich, which of course comes with fries, I can eat half the sandwhich, and none of the fries. I can't believe I used to be able to eat a whole sandwhich and the side dish...now it would make me violently ill!
I wonder why this is happening...I mean, it feels more healthful, but why did my body only begin to react this way NOW? It calls on me for fuel, which I give it, then I stop. I've never been a 'snacker'; don't know why, just never developed the habit I guess...but I used to ENJOY eating...now I see myself at war with food. I have to maintain a high level of vigilance over what goes into my mouth or risk feeling very ill.
Anyone else going thru this?
As for the fasting...I may try it after the New Year... 3 days perhaps...just water and electrolyties.
I find these days that eating very small meals, and even skipping dinner on most nights is making me feel much better.
Much as this makes ME feel like an "old lady", I have discovered that if I eat anything substantial after 6 pm, I'm going to have a bad night....cramping, bloating, insomnia, restlessness. If I eat a big lunch, I have to engage in significant activity for a hour afterwards, or the same thing will happen.
Gone of the days of pizza at midnight...and it is a good thing, because it was a purely pleasure thing...and had nothing to do with what my body needed. These days, I'm only eating if I'm hungry, and then only enouigh to make the hunger pains go away...sometimes just a few bites. If the pangs return, a few more bites. If I go out to a restaurant and order a sandwhich, which of course comes with fries, I can eat half the sandwhich, and none of the fries. I can't believe I used to be able to eat a whole sandwhich and the side dish...now it would make me violently ill!
I wonder why this is happening...I mean, it feels more healthful, but why did my body only begin to react this way NOW? It calls on me for fuel, which I give it, then I stop. I've never been a 'snacker'; don't know why, just never developed the habit I guess...but I used to ENJOY eating...now I see myself at war with food. I have to maintain a high level of vigilance over what goes into my mouth or risk feeling very ill.
Anyone else going thru this?
Robin, you can add many more beets if you like, it isn't a hard "stick to the rules" recipe.
As for your eating problems, ahhhhh, that is also me to a T!
But as an IBS sufferer, and I believe you are too, I now eat whether I want to or not, approx 1-2 hours before bed......ok, this is going to sound awfully bland ....a small bowl of rice, added cinnamon, or any spice that won't cause problems, a "small" dash of sugar, and a tiny amount of milk. I eat it down and honestly Robin, I cannot remember my last IBS attack. It took my tummy a few nights to get used to this, but it the old secret of rice being soluable fibre, and that stabilizes the Colon so that when it plays games and contracts badly, it has something to contract onto......and that is a LOT of the battle with IBS.
Robin, just an idea, but after all you have gone through, and are going through, do you really feel it is good to be fasting during this time?
I would worry about you doing that, but it's not my business......just my free 2 cents. Hugs,
Viktoria
QUOTE (Careergrl @ Dec 18 2007, 06:54 PM)
Hi, Re; raw beets. My H and I used to do a lot of juicing. We made a juice with 1 to 1/2 small raw beet, carrots, cucumber and lemon. I don't remember the exact amounts of each. Seems like we would put through the juicer maybe 1/2 to 1 small beet and the greens attached, maybe five carrots, one apple and a cucumber. What an energy boost!! You don't want to do beet juice alone, it should be mixed with other vegs and maybe an apple. Beet juice is a very powerful cleanser of the blood and kidneys, moderation is the key.
SusanC
SusanC
Susan,
Beets and especially beet greens contain significant amount of oxalatic acid, which are big NO-NO if one has calcium oxalate kidney stones. DH had this type of kidney stones and is watching produce high in oxalate, beets one of them especially the green part.
IMO, the energy boost is due to high sugar content of the concoction, after all beets have lots of natural sugar and fruits do too.
well geez, Ira....I didn't know that! I just know that when I was bleeding a lot during peri that the concoction helped me alot..once a week.
QUOTE (Iradan @ Dec 20 2007, 12:58 AM)
Susan,
Beets and especially beet greens contain significant amount of oxalatic acid, which are big NO-NO if one has calcium oxalate kidney stones. DH had this type of kidney stones and is watching produce high in oxalate, beets one of them especially the green part.
IMO, the energy boost is due to high sugar content of the concoction, after all beets have lots of natural sugar and fruits do too.
Beets and especially beet greens contain significant amount of oxalatic acid, which are big NO-NO if one has calcium oxalate kidney stones. DH had this type of kidney stones and is watching produce high in oxalate, beets one of them especially the green part.
IMO, the energy boost is due to high sugar content of the concoction, after all beets have lots of natural sugar and fruits do too.
Also, beets are the primary source of monosodium glutamate, or MSG. Of course, you have to eat whopping loads of beets or beet juice, but some people are very sensitive to it's effects. And yes, they do have a high sugar content, so if you are diabetic, eat in moderation.
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