Hello everyone-
Does anyone still have the anxiety/moods during their periods? I am usually anxious, nervous, worried the couple weeks before my period and then I feel fine. But this time I had my period right on time, and I still am having the anxiety. This is the 4th day of my period and yesterday I totally lost it. I went from irritated to hysterical in a matter of minutes and then slammed out of the house and took a walk. I feel so bad for losing it. I don't usually have such mood swings but it just hit me! And I'm on my period... how odd is that? Is that normal? Tell me I'm not crazy! Please! I pray that it'll just dry up and go away. I'm 39 and the last 6 months have been a bear! My natural dr has me on adrenal, ovarian, hypothalamus supplements, thyroid tissue. I take Vit C once a day and I also take bile salts and evening primrose oil. He said that since I've been on this for 6 months now it's time to try something else since I've responded some but the symptoms are still there. He's putting an herbal concoction together for me.. has gingko and 5 other herbs in it. I still say I started peri- when I turned 30. Does it seem that the first years are not so bad and then everything goes haywire?? will it ease up on the downside?? Any suggestions? Thanks for listening,
nessa67
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hi Nessa,
I recently started having the same thing happen to me. I always had PMS. Recently my PMS has been more intense and my other symptoms have intensified as well - achy legs, crying a lot, tired, tired, tired! In the past, when my period finally arrived, I would feel almost back to normal (personality wise) on day 2. Now my symptoms last through the whole darn thing! It is peri, apparently. I do not take any meds so I can't comment on whether or not they help or not. As for me, I drink a glass of red wine at night, about two days before my period is due and then during. It does help me becasue it makes me fall into a deep sleep which then takes the edge off my moodiness.
IT ALL STINKS!
I hope when menopause is over, that we are relieved. Women don't deserve this!
take care,
Daisy Chain
I recently started having the same thing happen to me. I always had PMS. Recently my PMS has been more intense and my other symptoms have intensified as well - achy legs, crying a lot, tired, tired, tired! In the past, when my period finally arrived, I would feel almost back to normal (personality wise) on day 2. Now my symptoms last through the whole darn thing! It is peri, apparently. I do not take any meds so I can't comment on whether or not they help or not. As for me, I drink a glass of red wine at night, about two days before my period is due and then during. It does help me becasue it makes me fall into a deep sleep which then takes the edge off my moodiness.
IT ALL STINKS!
I hope when menopause is over, that we are relieved. Women don't deserve this!take care,
Daisy Chain
QUOTE (daisy chain @ Apr 12 2007, 11:54 AM) 
hi Nessa,
I recently started having the same thing happen to me. I always had PMS. Recently my PMS has been more intense and my other symptoms have intensified as well - achy legs, crying a lot, tired, tired, tired! In the past, when my period finally arrived, I would feel almost back to normal (personality wise) on day 2. Now my symptoms last through the whole darn thing! It is peri, apparently. I do not take any meds so I can't comment on whether or not they help or not. As for me, I drink a glass of red wine at night, about two days before my period is due and then during. It does help me becasue it makes me fall into a deep sleep which then takes the edge off my moodiness.
IT ALL STINKS! I hope when menopause is over, that we are relieved. Women don't deserve this!
take care,
Daisy Chain
I recently started having the same thing happen to me. I always had PMS. Recently my PMS has been more intense and my other symptoms have intensified as well - achy legs, crying a lot, tired, tired, tired! In the past, when my period finally arrived, I would feel almost back to normal (personality wise) on day 2. Now my symptoms last through the whole darn thing! It is peri, apparently. I do not take any meds so I can't comment on whether or not they help or not. As for me, I drink a glass of red wine at night, about two days before my period is due and then during. It does help me becasue it makes me fall into a deep sleep which then takes the edge off my moodiness.
IT ALL STINKS!
I hope when menopause is over, that we are relieved. Women don't deserve this!take care,
Daisy Chain
I have had the same experience. I have always had horrible PMS but now it's like I only have a couple to 3 days a month where I don't seem to have PMS. Although I'm usually still a little weepy during those days! Of course, after not having really regular periods for most of my life I'm now lucky enough to have them every 21-23 days! I'm thrilled I can tell ya. Day 4 of my cycle (still during my period) seems to be really bad for me the past few months. That's a new one! I do track my symptoms on a calendar every month so that I can compare to see if it's a fluke or if I was feeling the same way a month before. However, now I have to be really specific since I always seem to have some kind of PMS going on. It s*cks.
I am medicated BTW. Buspar for anxiety and lamictal for a mood stabilizer. Not sure if it helps but I'm not going off of it because if it is really helping I can't imagine what it would be like unmedicated. Sheesh!!
QUOTE (daisy chain @ Apr 12 2007, 11:54 AM)
hi Nessa,
I recently started having the same thing happen to me. I always had PMS. Recently my PMS has been more intense and my other symptoms have intensified as well - achy legs, crying a lot, tired, tired, tired! In the past, when my period finally arrived, I would feel almost back to normal (personality wise) on day 2. Now my symptoms last through the whole darn thing! It is peri, apparently. I do not take any meds so I can't comment on whether or not they help or not. As for me, I drink a glass of red wine at night, about two days before my period is due and then during. It does help me becasue it makes me fall into a deep sleep which then takes the edge off my moodiness.
IT ALL STINKS! I hope when menopause is over, that we are relieved. Women don't deserve this!
take care,
Daisy Chain
I recently started having the same thing happen to me. I always had PMS. Recently my PMS has been more intense and my other symptoms have intensified as well - achy legs, crying a lot, tired, tired, tired! In the past, when my period finally arrived, I would feel almost back to normal (personality wise) on day 2. Now my symptoms last through the whole darn thing! It is peri, apparently. I do not take any meds so I can't comment on whether or not they help or not. As for me, I drink a glass of red wine at night, about two days before my period is due and then during. It does help me becasue it makes me fall into a deep sleep which then takes the edge off my moodiness.
IT ALL STINKS!
I hope when menopause is over, that we are relieved. Women don't deserve this!take care,
Daisy Chain
I have had the same experience. I have always had horrible PMS but now it's like I only have a couple to 3 days a month where I don't seem to have PMS. Although I'm usually still a little weepy during those days! Of course, after not having really regular periods for most of my life I'm now lucky enough to have them every 21-23 days! I'm thrilled I can tell ya. Day 4 of my cycle (still during my period) seems to be really bad for me the past few months. That's a new one! I do track my symptoms on a calendar every month so that I can compare to see if it's a fluke or if I was feeling the same way a month before. However, now I have to be really specific since I always seem to have some kind of PMS going on. It s*cks.
I am medicated BTW. Buspar for anxiety and lamictal for a mood stabilizer. Not sure if it helps but I'm not going off of it because if it is really helping I can't imagine what it would be like unmedicated. Sheesh!!
When mine lasted through my period I decided to go to the dr,I told her that I believed I was starting peri,at first she didn't agree because I was 30,now I am 31.The last appt I told her again and she agreed with me because my troubles all started when my periods were becoming irregular(closer together lighter)She prescribed Yasmin,I am in the third month and finding considerable relief,but still have bad days when I just want to cry,and fatigue!!I hope you find an answer that works for you.GOD bless.
QUOTE (Lady E @ Apr 12 2007, 12:57 PM)
When mine lasted through my period I decided to go to the dr,I told her that I believed I was starting peri,at first she didn't agree because I was 30,now I am 31.The last appt I told her again and she agreed with me because my troubles all started when my periods were becoming irregular(closer together lighter)She prescribed Yasmin,I am in the third month and finding considerable relief,but still have bad days when I just want to cry,and fatigue!!I hope you find an answer that works for you.GOD bless.
Unfortunately I can't take any hormone replacements or be on the pill because it gives me horrible migraines. The one small blessing that I have about perimenopause heading toward menipause is that my migraines have really slowed down. I used to get them all of the time- now I get them a few times a year. My mom and sister completely stopped having migraines when they went through menopause. So there is at least one thing to be thankful for. Besides, when they tried any form of the pill for me for PMS, and they tried pretty much all of them when I was younger, my PMS was every day of every month. I was a monster. Gee - that's what I am now too! What a coinkydink!
QUOTE (horsinaround @ Apr 12 2007, 11:10 AM)
Unfortunately I can't take any hormone replacements or be on the pill because it gives me horrible migraines. The one small blessing that I have about perimenopause heading toward menipause is that my migraines have really slowed down. I used to get them all of the time- now I get them a few times a year. My mom and sister completely stopped having migraines when they went through menopause. So there is at least one thing to be thankful for. Besides, when they tried any form of the pill for me for PMS, and they tried pretty much all of them when I was younger, my PMS was every day of every month. I was a monster. Gee - that's what I am now too! What a coinkydink!
I wanted to add another perspective on migraines and hormones.
I used to get migraines with birth control pills. It seems like I tried every different pill. The doctors always wanted me on the low dose pill.
Since I started estradiol and progesterone for peri (a year ago) I have noticed that what causes migraines for me now is dropping estrogen levels, too low estrogen levels, and progesterone withdrawal. If I get a migraine now it is always during my cycle when I know my estrogen is the lowest or when I am trying to go off my progesterone. Even though I take estradiol every day it is not always easy to know when I should be taking more so sometimes I wind up with a migraine.
The most amazing thing though now is that when I do get a migraine, as soon as I start getting the aura I can dose with extra estradiol on my neck and temples and my migraine will go away faster and better than with any migraine medication or pain medication. The first few times I tried this it was like a miracle happened; my day was not ruined and I felt normal again very quickly. I do not even need pain medication anymore for my migraines. In the past I have had migraines with effects that lasted a week.
There have been a couple of occasions when the estradiol did not help the migraine. Those times were always the day after I was discontinuing my progesterone. I was able then to dose with progesterone and clear up my migraine. Now I am careful to try and taper my progesterone off to lessen my chance of a progesterone withdrawal migraine.
Getting back to the birth control pills. I now think that my migraines then were caused by the low dose pills (I should have been on a higher dose) plus my estrogen dropping on the week without pills. My estrogen probably dropped too low triggering a migraine. Also, discontinuing the progestin component part of the pill could have triggered the migraines as well.
Looking back on the years off birth control pills I remember getting migraines around my period. Now I believe that if I had a tube of estradiol back then I could have controlled my migraines. I feel a little sad for all the times I was sick when now I know that it did not have to be like that.
I first learned about estrogen and migraines from the book “Natural Hormone Balance for Women” by Uzzi Reiss. I cannot recall if he goes into the progesterone withdrawal migraine thing or not but the information about estrogen and migraines was so helpful to me.
In addition to helping with migraines, estradiol also helps my anxiety during my period. If I am having depression or anxiety and realize that it is happening I can usually feel much better with just an extra application of estradiol. Crying during that time is a clear sign to me that I need another dose. The amazing thing is that it works. I can go from feeling so depressed, crying in bed to feeling normal and able to go on with my day. The first time I tried extra estradiol and it worked it was so amazing. Now I have my hormones under better control and I do not mess up as much with my dosing but it still happens occasionally. My husband has strict instructions to tell me to use more estrogen anytime he sees me crying for no apparent reason. Sometimes I need the extra help because when I fall in that dark hole it is hard to remember that it is so easy to get out just if I remember what to do.
Kathy
QUOTE (584296a @ Apr 12 2007, 02:53 PM)
I wanted to add another perspective on migraines and hormones.
I used to get migraines with birth control pills. It seems like I tried every different pill. The doctors always wanted me on the low dose pill.
Since I started estradiol and progesterone for peri (a year ago) I have noticed that what causes migraines for me now is dropping estrogen levels, too low estrogen levels, and progesterone withdrawal. If I get a migraine now it is always during my cycle when I know my estrogen is the lowest or when I am trying to go off my progesterone. Even though I take estradiol every day it is not always easy to know when I should be taking more so sometimes I wind up with a migraine.
The most amazing thing though now is that when I do get a migraine, as soon as I start getting the aura I can dose with extra estradiol on my neck and temples and my migraine will go away faster and better than with any migraine medication or pain medication. The first few times I tried this it was like a miracle happened; my day was not ruined and I felt normal again very quickly. I do not even need pain medication anymore for my migraines. In the past I have had migraines with effects that lasted a week.
There have been a couple of occasions when the estradiol did not help the migraine. Those times were always the day after I was discontinuing my progesterone. I was able then to dose with progesterone and clear up my migraine. Now I am careful to try and taper my progesterone off to lessen my chance of a progesterone withdrawal migraine.
Getting back to the birth control pills. I now think that my migraines then were caused by the low dose pills (I should have been on a higher dose) plus my estrogen dropping on the week without pills. My estrogen probably dropped too low triggering a migraine. Also, discontinuing the progestin component part of the pill could have triggered the migraines as well.
Looking back on the years off birth control pills I remember getting migraines around my period. Now I believe that if I had a tube of estradiol back then I could have controlled my migraines. I feel a little sad for all the times I was sick when now I know that it did not have to be like that.
I first learned about estrogen and migraines from the book “Natural Hormone Balance for Women” by Uzzi Reiss. I cannot recall if he goes into the progesterone withdrawal migraine thing or not but the information about estrogen and migraines was so helpful to me.
In addition to helping with migraines, estradiol also helps my anxiety during my period. If I am having depression or anxiety and realize that it is happening I can usually feel much better with just an extra application of estradiol. Crying during that time is a clear sign to me that I need another dose. The amazing thing is that it works. I can go from feeling so depressed, crying in bed to feeling normal and able to go on with my day. The first time I tried extra estradiol and it worked it was so amazing. Now I have my hormones under better control and I do not mess up as much with my dosing but it still happens occasionally. My husband has strict instructions to tell me to use more estrogen anytime he sees me crying for no apparent reason. Sometimes I need the extra help because when I fall in that dark hole it is hard to remember that it is so easy to get out just if I remember what to do.
Kathy
I used to get migraines with birth control pills. It seems like I tried every different pill. The doctors always wanted me on the low dose pill.
Since I started estradiol and progesterone for peri (a year ago) I have noticed that what causes migraines for me now is dropping estrogen levels, too low estrogen levels, and progesterone withdrawal. If I get a migraine now it is always during my cycle when I know my estrogen is the lowest or when I am trying to go off my progesterone. Even though I take estradiol every day it is not always easy to know when I should be taking more so sometimes I wind up with a migraine.
The most amazing thing though now is that when I do get a migraine, as soon as I start getting the aura I can dose with extra estradiol on my neck and temples and my migraine will go away faster and better than with any migraine medication or pain medication. The first few times I tried this it was like a miracle happened; my day was not ruined and I felt normal again very quickly. I do not even need pain medication anymore for my migraines. In the past I have had migraines with effects that lasted a week.
There have been a couple of occasions when the estradiol did not help the migraine. Those times were always the day after I was discontinuing my progesterone. I was able then to dose with progesterone and clear up my migraine. Now I am careful to try and taper my progesterone off to lessen my chance of a progesterone withdrawal migraine.
Getting back to the birth control pills. I now think that my migraines then were caused by the low dose pills (I should have been on a higher dose) plus my estrogen dropping on the week without pills. My estrogen probably dropped too low triggering a migraine. Also, discontinuing the progestin component part of the pill could have triggered the migraines as well.
Looking back on the years off birth control pills I remember getting migraines around my period. Now I believe that if I had a tube of estradiol back then I could have controlled my migraines. I feel a little sad for all the times I was sick when now I know that it did not have to be like that.
I first learned about estrogen and migraines from the book “Natural Hormone Balance for Women” by Uzzi Reiss. I cannot recall if he goes into the progesterone withdrawal migraine thing or not but the information about estrogen and migraines was so helpful to me.
In addition to helping with migraines, estradiol also helps my anxiety during my period. If I am having depression or anxiety and realize that it is happening I can usually feel much better with just an extra application of estradiol. Crying during that time is a clear sign to me that I need another dose. The amazing thing is that it works. I can go from feeling so depressed, crying in bed to feeling normal and able to go on with my day. The first time I tried extra estradiol and it worked it was so amazing. Now I have my hormones under better control and I do not mess up as much with my dosing but it still happens occasionally. My husband has strict instructions to tell me to use more estrogen anytime he sees me crying for no apparent reason. Sometimes I need the extra help because when I fall in that dark hole it is hard to remember that it is so easy to get out just if I remember what to do.
Kathy
Ok, I haven't had time to read anything about this estradiol so what is it and how do I get it. I tried the progesterone cream and it worked until it bloated me and didn't help much with anything at all. I got the pure, bioidentical kind too. I hated the stuff. And it left a bad taste in my mouth (no I didn't put it in my mouth in case anyone wonders) whenever I rubbed it in. But what is estradiol. I have to say - I'm having a pity party right now because I'm miserable today and wondering if anything is ever going to be normal again. It's all freaking falling apart body, heart and soul! yech!!!
[quote name='nessa67' date='Apr 12 2007, 10:39 AM' post='165902']
This is the 4th day of my period and yesterday I totally lost it. I went from irritated to hysterical in a matter of minutes and then slammed out of the house and took a walk. I feel so bad for losing it. I don't usually have such mood swings but it just hit me! And I'm on my period... how odd is that? Is that normal? Tell me I'm not crazy!
nessa6
This has started happening to me too! I know that there are a bunch of you that knows what is going on hormonally on that 4th day. What is it??? After my period started used to be the best time. I'll admit to you that I don't have time to read anything and wouldn't retain it anyway so give me the cliff's notes. I'd love to read the books but it won't happen! But there is something about that 4th day physiologically speaking??
This is the 4th day of my period and yesterday I totally lost it. I went from irritated to hysterical in a matter of minutes and then slammed out of the house and took a walk. I feel so bad for losing it. I don't usually have such mood swings but it just hit me! And I'm on my period... how odd is that? Is that normal? Tell me I'm not crazy!
nessa6
This has started happening to me too! I know that there are a bunch of you that knows what is going on hormonally on that 4th day. What is it??? After my period started used to be the best time. I'll admit to you that I don't have time to read anything and wouldn't retain it anyway so give me the cliff's notes. I'd love to read the books but it won't happen! But there is something about that 4th day physiologically speaking??
Thanks everyone! I'm glad I'm not alone! I was telling a friend how it was and she acted like I was the only one that still had symptoms even during my period. I knew I had to jump on here and find out.
As for the estradiol-isn't that a form of estrogen? In Feb when I had my bloodwork done, my estrogen was like 600 and some and my progesterone was .1 (something like that). Anyway, could someone explain the cycle of when the estrogen drops and progesterone takes over? Is there a chart that I can compare levels with? I have tried ProGest and felt some better on it. It seems like I would need more progesterone since the levels looked so low compared to the estrogen. But it sounds like the estradiol would help with the anxiety, etc. I don't want to become too estrogen dominant! I just had my hormones checked again this week-still waiting on the results. Even the FSH and LH levels-is there a chart? I know I've seen one, maybe on the last labs but what does the pre-follicular, midcycle stuff all mean? I'm sorry it seems like I'm clueless. I'm really trying to stay on top of things. Has anyone read Dr Lee's book, What Your Dr May Not Tell You About Premenopause? I've read it before and think I will again.
Thanks again for listening,
nessa67
As for the estradiol-isn't that a form of estrogen? In Feb when I had my bloodwork done, my estrogen was like 600 and some and my progesterone was .1 (something like that). Anyway, could someone explain the cycle of when the estrogen drops and progesterone takes over? Is there a chart that I can compare levels with? I have tried ProGest and felt some better on it. It seems like I would need more progesterone since the levels looked so low compared to the estrogen. But it sounds like the estradiol would help with the anxiety, etc. I don't want to become too estrogen dominant! I just had my hormones checked again this week-still waiting on the results. Even the FSH and LH levels-is there a chart? I know I've seen one, maybe on the last labs but what does the pre-follicular, midcycle stuff all mean? I'm sorry it seems like I'm clueless. I'm really trying to stay on top of things. Has anyone read Dr Lee's book, What Your Dr May Not Tell You About Premenopause? I've read it before and think I will again.
Thanks again for listening,
nessa67
QUOTE (horsinaround @ Apr 12 2007, 08:28 PM)
Ok, I haven't had time to read anything about this estradiol so what is it and how do I get it. I tried the progesterone cream and it worked until it bloated me and didn't help much with anything at all. I got the pure, bioidentical kind too. I hated the stuff. And it left a bad taste in my mouth (no I didn't put it in my mouth in case anyone wonders) whenever I rubbed it in. But what is estradiol. I have to say - I'm having a pity party right now because I'm miserable today and wondering if anything is ever going to be normal again. It's all freaking falling apart body, heart and soul! yech!!!
Our bodies make three different estrogens; estradiol, estriol, and estrone. Estradiol is the estrogen that seems to help us more. Estriol is the estrogen that increases during pregnancy. Estrone is the estrogen made by our fat (sometimes we gain weight just so our bodies can make estrone when we start loosing our estrogen!). You can get each estrogen in its plain form or combined (triest is all three estrogens, biest is estradiol and estriol). I used to take triest and I switched to biest because the triest wore off too fast. I hated the biest because I had excess estrogen symptoms and estrogen deficiency symptoms at the same time. I switched to estradiol and I like it best. I take it in topical form (gel, three times a day on the back of my upper arm fat). You can also get estradiol in patch, oral, and sublingual form. Each form has it’s advantages and disadvantages.
Estradiol is a prescription item in the US. You need to go to your doctor and get a RX. You can also buy it online from overseas pharmacies. Estrogen is a very powerful hormone, it is best to work with a knowledgeable doctor but sometimes very hard to find one. A good way to find a doctor is to talk to the pharmacist at your local compounding pharmacy and get a referral for a good doctor who will work with you and give you what you need. When you go to the doctor it is a good idea to know what to ask for and know what to say so that they give you what you want rather than an antidepressant or the brush off.
Educate yourself first by reading good hormone books. Reiss, Vliet, and Redmond are three good authors. I would recommend reading “Natural Hormone Balance for Women” by Uzzi Reiss first. Personally, I do not recommend Dr. Lee’s books anymore because I think he focuses too much of progesterone and skips estrogen. I do not agree with everything Reiss says but his book is very educational. I would recommend reading at least one of Vliet’s books second. Vliet’s opinions are different and it is good to know that the doctors do not agree on everything regarding women’s hormones.
Figuring out your hormones is not necessarily easy and it takes work and time but the results are worth the effort IMHO. We really need to know that we have to be in charge of our own hormones; doctors are there to help, but to feel really good and get good treatment we have to understand what is going on with our bodies and know what treatment options fit us best. Being miserable because of declining hormones is just not an option for me anymore.
Kathy
[quote name='horsinaround' post='166024' date='Apr 12 2007, 08:32 PM'][quote name='nessa67' post='165902' date='Apr 12 2007, 10:39 AM']
This is the 4th day of my period and yesterday I totally lost it. I went from irritated to hysterical in a matter of minutes and then slammed out of the house and took a walk. I feel so bad for losing it. I don't usually have such mood swings but it just hit me! And I'm on my period... how odd is that? Is that normal? Tell me I'm not crazy!
nessa6
This has started happening to me too! I know that there are a bunch of you that knows what is going on hormonally on that 4th day. What is it??? After my period started used to be the best time. I'll admit to you that I don't have time to read anything and wouldn't retain it anyway so give me the cliff's notes. I'd love to read the books but it won't happen! But there is something about that 4th day physiologically speaking??[/quote]
The 4th day of your period is one of your really low estrogen days. Your body (like mine) probably feels bad if your estrogen drops too low. As we get older our estrogen levels drop, so our low days become our too low to feel good days. Our estrogen is lowest during our period and for a few days after then starts to rise near ovulation, drops a little, has another little peak and then drops right before our period. To complicate things, at about day 14 when we ovulate (if we ovulate) our progesterone kicks in for the last 14 days of our cycle and then drops off as our estrogen drops off right before our period. If I find a good chart I will try and post a link or a way to get to the page (we are not allowed to post links here).
As far as not reading the books… I would suggest buying Natural Hormone Balance for Women and putting it next to your bed. On a day when you are down and feeling bad you may get the mental energy to read some of the book. If you have it you will be more likely to pick it up one day when you really need to understand things. Just getting bits and pieces of information can create problems especially if you wind up at your doctor’s office and they give something inappropriate and you do not even know that it is bad because you did not read the books.
Kathy
This is the 4th day of my period and yesterday I totally lost it. I went from irritated to hysterical in a matter of minutes and then slammed out of the house and took a walk. I feel so bad for losing it. I don't usually have such mood swings but it just hit me! And I'm on my period... how odd is that? Is that normal? Tell me I'm not crazy!
nessa6
This has started happening to me too! I know that there are a bunch of you that knows what is going on hormonally on that 4th day. What is it??? After my period started used to be the best time. I'll admit to you that I don't have time to read anything and wouldn't retain it anyway so give me the cliff's notes. I'd love to read the books but it won't happen! But there is something about that 4th day physiologically speaking??[/quote]
The 4th day of your period is one of your really low estrogen days. Your body (like mine) probably feels bad if your estrogen drops too low. As we get older our estrogen levels drop, so our low days become our too low to feel good days. Our estrogen is lowest during our period and for a few days after then starts to rise near ovulation, drops a little, has another little peak and then drops right before our period. To complicate things, at about day 14 when we ovulate (if we ovulate) our progesterone kicks in for the last 14 days of our cycle and then drops off as our estrogen drops off right before our period. If I find a good chart I will try and post a link or a way to get to the page (we are not allowed to post links here).
As far as not reading the books… I would suggest buying Natural Hormone Balance for Women and putting it next to your bed. On a day when you are down and feeling bad you may get the mental energy to read some of the book. If you have it you will be more likely to pick it up one day when you really need to understand things. Just getting bits and pieces of information can create problems especially if you wind up at your doctor’s office and they give something inappropriate and you do not even know that it is bad because you did not read the books.
Kathy
QUOTE (584296a @ Apr 13 2007, 01:21 PM)
The 4th day of your period is one of your really low estrogen days. Your body (like mine) probably feels bad if your estrogen drops too low. As we get older our estrogen levels drop, so our low days become our too low to feel good days. Our estrogen is lowest during our period and for a few days after then starts to rise near ovulation, drops a little, has another little peak and then drops right before our period. To complicate things, at about day 14 when we ovulate (if we ovulate) our progesterone kicks in for the last 14 days of our cycle and then drops off as our estrogen drops off right before our period. If I find a good chart I will try and post a link or a way to get to the page (we are not allowed to post links here).
As far as not reading the books… I would suggest buying Natural Hormone Balance for Women and putting it next to your bed. On a day when you are down and feeling bad you may get the mental energy to read some of the book. If you have it you will be more likely to pick it up one day when you really need to understand things. Just getting bits and pieces of information can create problems especially if you wind up at your doctor’s office and they give something inappropriate and you do not even know that it is bad because you did not read the books.
Kathy
As far as not reading the books… I would suggest buying Natural Hormone Balance for Women and putting it next to your bed. On a day when you are down and feeling bad you may get the mental energy to read some of the book. If you have it you will be more likely to pick it up one day when you really need to understand things. Just getting bits and pieces of information can create problems especially if you wind up at your doctor’s office and they give something inappropriate and you do not even know that it is bad because you did not read the books.
Kathy
Thanks Kathy. I need to keep rereading the hormone explanation until it sinks in - another lovely symptom that I've been having. Takes me forever to process. Anyway, the ovulation part makes sense because I start to feel a little better mentally right before I ovulate and then it drops again and goes up and down. But the day I ovulate I'm pretty miserable - tired, crampy and the cravings - they're ridiculous now. And they end just before my period. I have serious cake cravings, mixed with shrimp, eggs, chinese food (only at this time of the month) and sometimes a hotdog with mustard. It's absurd but I've documented those cravings on my calendar and they consistently start and end at the same time every month. I know I'm heading into something when I start dreaming of carbs. Does anyone else do this during their cycle. Makes it hard to diet that's for sure!
QUOTE (horsinaround @ Apr 13 2007, 03:36 PM)
Thanks Kathy. I need to keep rereading the hormone explanation until it sinks in - another lovely symptom that I've been having. Takes me forever to process. Anyway, the ovulation part makes sense because I start to feel a little better mentally right before I ovulate and then it drops again and goes up and down. But the day I ovulate I'm pretty miserable - tired, crampy and the cravings - they're ridiculous now. And they end just before my period. I have serious cake cravings, mixed with shrimp, eggs, chinese food (only at this time of the month) and sometimes a hotdog with mustard. It's absurd but I've documented those cravings on my calendar and they consistently start and end at the same time every month. I know I'm heading into something when I start dreaming of carbs. Does anyone else do this during their cycle. Makes it hard to diet that's for sure!
And I guess that progesterone must be somewhat responsible for those daggone cravings and feeling hungry? Probably why I was always STARVING when I was using that progesterone cream. I had the cravings all of the time then.
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