uhh...Ladies?  how do I change my signature?

and how do we get those funny blue faces, especially the guy wearing sunglasses and smoking ? That istoooo  funny!!

Patty and Jeanne,

now, now, now.... stay AWAY from that cocaine!! lol !!remember, we did that as kids, now we're supposed to be all growed up!

(where is that dude wearing sunglasses and smoking?)

I actually roll out of bed and lay on the floor when I feel a hot sweat coming - that way the bed doesn't get clammy, my thrashing around doesn't wake him, and it's cooler on the floor and passes sooner. And I sleep naked.

LOL Jean, do you realize what a funny word-picture that is? Another thing you (or I) could try is putting a fan in the back seat of the car. But NO cocaine!!!! We're too old for that......In fact, Snowbird, do you have a fan in the back seat too?

Geeeeeeeeezzz, sorry ladies, i am SUCH a brat tonight! I'll give you my snailmail address so you can physically kick my butt.

hugs

I get more chills than sweats at night. I'm covered by 5 thermal blankets and it's pleasant outside. I don't have a fever, but I act like I do. In the middle of the night, I am sweating like a person who has just finished a rigorous exercise routine. During the day, however, I'm usually quite warm...Help!

hey there gang

This is the first post I've seen that has to do with chills(from celticquill)  I'm cold most of the time, maybe I'm getting the chills instead of the hot flashes!!!!!!:confused: It's 80 degress out today and I am sitting here frozen, goose bumps and all. Even my fingernails have a blue tinge to them.Although I did wake up this a.m. a little sweaty and then noticed some shakin' going on inside.  I am very :confused: by this. Has anyone else experienced this sort of thing. Doc said my blood was a LITTLE low the first part of summer but I don't think it's that low.  But then again maybe it is?  Do I sound :confused:  Ya I probably do.  When I stand up after I've been sitting for awhile I get dizzy and sometimes have to grab onto whatever is close.Anyhoo if anyone else out there in cyber land has experienced this I would love to here from you.:smile:Think I'll wrap myself up in a blankie and read some more of Dr. Christiane book.  The ironing can wait.

cookie, Hi'ya!!

Wish I could help...the only thing I can add is....I use to be like that, when my thyroid, was low!!  Just a thought, have you had it checked???

I've actually came to this topic...cuz, last night, was the first night in a long....long while, that I struggled with ~~~sweats~~~ *Sob-Pout*I had one, (that I know of) hot flash:o:o....then the rest of the night....I just sweat my little ol' heart out!! Aaargh!! Kept me awake most of the night:angry: Poor hubby...I had the window open....a nice lovely cold Kanuck blast was coming in!! I just laid there, with no blankies at all!!  The only time I felt chilled, was about 5am...when everything started to settled down! "Ohh the *Woes* of it all":angry:  If it isn't one thing it's another!!I really hate the night sweats....I even took my temp...sheesh!! Of course, it was normal!!

Can't help ya out much about the chillies....'cept, they came later....much later!! *shiver*Now, I hafta, buy some more cool....very cool, cotton jammies!!

Anyhoo, hope you get some answers....it's probably just more meno-stuff!!

Take care..............................................

(((((((((((((((Hugs from the Snowbird)))))))))))))                            ~*Snowy*~

I had chills very badly when I had high blood pressure . Might as well get it all checked before blaming it on meno. I didn't check it at all and got into kind of a mess for awhile there. Better safe than sorry, I always say. (well, I always say it now   anyway)hugs, jeanne

Hi ya birdie and nutty :biggrin:

Had the thyroid checked the first part of summer also.  Doc. said it was fine. :confused:

My blood pressure isn't high either, last check it was 104/60. :confused:

Perhaps I'm just a chilly willy.  Hubby won't even let me warm my feet on him :sad:  Oh well, little does he know, after he starts sawing wood, I snuggle up and get warm. hee hee.Really dreading the winter though.Someone throw a little sweat my way.  I know watch out what I wish for.........I just may get it.  TTFN

Awfully glad to hear everything checked out ok cookie. About all I can think of now is your body thermostat is on the blink and should straighten out soon.:)In the meantime, cuddle up buttercup :)hugs, jeanne

**Nutty** HeHe!!  Love It:biggrin:My B/P is usually on an average, 130/70!!Anything lower...causes me to be very...very chilly!!  Just something to think about!!Then again, what's normal for one, may not be for another.....so my doctor says!! ((((Hugs)))) ~*Birdie*~

Hi All:  Thought i would update with my progress so far.  i've had my prescription of Biest (3.75) since mid August and the night sweats are GONE! :biggrin: !!!  It took a bit of doing - first I was on 2 per day then had to switch to 3 per day, and that finally did it.  

One of the problems that I've experienced is that I got a whopping case of ulcers in my mouth.  We're talking emergency room 'cause I couldn't eat or swallow kind of thing.  Then I got the idea that it COULD be from dissolving the Biest under my tongue.  I emailed Pete and he called me on the phone and said to start swallowing them whole with food.  Well, it turns out that I had a viral infection (herpangina), a bacterial infection AND thrush - all at the same time.  That was going on 3 weeks ago and the ulcers are finally disappearing from under my tongue, though the surface of my tongue still feels scalded!  I tried going back to dissolving the Biest under my tongue but it was too painful.  Has anyone else had problems with the sublingual Biest?

Another question:  I no longer have a uterus OR ovaries.  I am on the Biest - will I still have all the PMS problems/symptoms that I did when I had my ovaries (like weight gain, bloating, etc.).  

Well, thanks for listening!  Pete really is a sweetie!Rhonda

Hi Rhonda...  Pete has given me the Biest (2.5 mg) in an oil capsule form.... maybe you might want to consider that instead of the sublingual form.   I have had no problems, and my night sweats have been gone for 3 months now.  He does have me taking progesterone and testosterone in sublingual form, and I am not having problems with those, either.  I hope you get the mouth and tongue back into good shape soon!

**Shucks**Thought I was over the night~sweats!! Guess not:o:o For the last couple of  weeks...I wake up soaking wet again!! Phooey!! Shouldn't really surprise me...after all this time!! Went all summer, without unusual sweating...other than the weather~~heat~~stuff!!Now, that things are cooling down outside...I'm getting hot inside, (the house, that is:angry:)

Blah...blah...blah....I feel like a broken record!! I was really hoping this was finished....cuz, it's so dang unpleasant!!  Wilts the feathers...for sure:(

Ohhhh vell....I just wanted to share a little misery here....no one else listens to me:biggrin:TTFN(((Huggers)))~*Snowy*~

Aw darn Silly Goose,What am I gonna do with you. Don't you know that you shold be postmeno and getting rid of all that? So here's the plan, you will stop all signs of a period, you will have no more sweating, and all the other symptoms will all but disappear. :cheesy: Is that a good plan or what?Well , at least have a better night tonight, ok. And blow dry those feathers, you look kind of wilted. :biggrin:Feel better ! big hugs , jeanne

Thanks my meno-crazy-gabby-buddy-in crime:biggrin:I like the plan;)Problem is.....I just can't seem to stop all dem symptoms of periods:angry:Last night....was another~~doozy~~:angry:Woke up soaking wet!! Yucko!! Now, if that wasn't enough....I had a anxiety,(panic-like) attack 'bout 4am:o:o

This whole "blinkin" stuff, is making me darn CRANKY, to say the least!! *Sigh* *Aaaaargh*I was doing pretty well too, up to that last period, two months ago..........now.......it feels like I should have another....or SOMETHING!! Grrrr!!Now, I hafta buy a new blow dryer for Da feathers:biggrin:  I look like a Bird that went through the car wash...S L O W L Y...without being buffed:cheesy:Feels Like It Too:o:angry:@#$%

Well, it'll be an "easy does it" day for me.....have no energy or zip for anything!! Jeeze!!Maybe I'll try a couple of catnaps....oppps....I mean birdie-naps:biggrin:

    (((((Huggers))))) ~*SillyzzzzzzGoose*~

Snowy

Seems like we all had a crappy night last night.  Did you have your window open?  It's getting pretty chilly in these parts at night now.We are all cranky today and I guess we have a right to be........after all it does end at some point in time. So I'm told.  I was up at 4 also....what gives?:confused:Finally got back to sleep about 5:30, then the alarm goes off at 6.  Whopee!!!!!!:o:o:o Bright eyed and bushy tailed.  Now don't go chasing anything with bushy tails snowy.I really hope you feel better soon :smile: :wink:Think I might try to squeeze in a nap of some kind today also.KEEP COOL MY BIRD FRIEND.

Well, I guess this older and wiser POSTmeno woman will just have to let you know. Those things go away completely without HRT , soy, pills of any kind.No more night sweats at all for quite a long time. Just want to make sure you all know that. Just a quick hot flash now and then and a little dizziness. Plus some anxiety, but even that is slooooowly getting better. Hang in all you birds, and baked items :biggrin: and feel better .

hugs, jeanne

HEY!!All-Knowing.....All-Wise-one.....THANKS!!All us Birds....'n gals...are in dept to ya for sure:biggrin:Hey...if there's anything the Silly-One can do....just holler....or better still...just POST:cheesy:  I'll be here for ya:cool:Now....it's time for a cold shower....got to cool down....no bushy tails here:biggrin:(((Hugs)))~*Silly Goose*~

Snowy

Did your shower cool u down?:wink:I had to have one to warm up, jumpins, I'm sitting here with two sweaters on and I still have goose bumps.  Only thing is my nose is cold.  I guess that's a good thing...........If your a dog. :biggrin:Now.....about that nap.zzzzzzzzzz

Nah....didn't work:(I'll hafta try the "Bird Bath" out back!!  It's a cold day...maybe that'll do it:biggrin:

A cold schnoz, is good;)As long as that's all that is:biggrin: Woof...woof!! Just don't start fetching...sticks, 'n bones:biggrin:

Huggers,~*Snow*~

Snowy......No not the bird bath again.  Think of the neighbours>>>>>Please think of the neighbours, I mean any one of them could be taking a video of you out there.  Don't want to see you on "America's Funniest Video's"Are you sure you have a job??  Your doing alot of flying around these boards today, but hey, I for one sure appreciate you, you and jeanne have your work cut out for you....keeping us all in line and sane. :o:o :wink:Luv u guys

Skip the bird bath....had no energy:( Went to lie down for awhile.....but I do have a question for all you wise...all knowing gals, out there;)Is it a coincidence, or is there something to it....that every time I lay down, I get a hot flash/flush??I'm at the point of trying to sleep standing up!! *Sigh*I just came back from trying to have a nap and jeeze!! Talk about sweating it out:o I may as well, been doing it to the oldies:biggrin: Make it worth my while!!I was just curious, if it's common to flush/sweat easier when lying down??  Any comments...gals?? I could try hanging upside down:biggrin:

(((Hugs)))~*Snowy*~**Sweating to the Oldies**

Hmm good question. all I can figure is that when you are moving around your blood is circulating more and just moving around probably keeps you a little cooler. Then when you lay down all that stops and you can feel it more. Make any sense? It did to me for about 60 seconds lolhugs, jeanne

When I was posting the question....hubby came into the room, (knew my problem)....and said something curious!! "If they (night sweats), are at night:biggrin: then they must occur when you are lying down, (when sleeping)."He said, is sounded obvious to him!! HeHe!!! Soooo....logical!! *Sigh* I said, "Yeah...but why??"  He said, "Cuz , your laying down." Grrr!  Men....ya gotta luv 'em:biggrin:

However, during the day.....I also, wonder, are they just sweats....or Day Sweats....or....like you said, circulation just slows down, and you feel it more!! *Sheesh* I almost wish I haven't asked.......now the Bird is a curious bird;)

Altho' today is another day.....I woke up feeling yucky...aches 'n pains....fibro kicking in....and arthritis:angry:

Maybe, it was just a combo ot stuff coming down, on me!! *Sigh* I'll hafta see how the day goes....just plain hard to tell,....so think I'll just watch a good movie!! Take my mind of it:biggrin:Wouldn't want to start hanging upside down...the Bird would turn into a Bat:oYikes!!((Hugs))~*Snowy*~

And an old bat at that . HEEHEEHEEsorry couldn't help that one you made it too easy :biggrin:love ya honest, Hugs, jeanne

TeeeHeee....Now I don't feel guilty 'bout sending you that e-mail I just sent ya:biggrin:Here, Kitty...Kitty!!

Yuk...Yuk:biggrin:~*Snowy*~

QUESTION:   DOES PETE  PERSCRIBE THE ESTROGEN OR DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERSCRIPTION FROM A DOCTOR?  

Hi Marsbar...  If you do not have a prescription from a physician, you can use the consulting physician with College Pharmacy to obtain the scripts.  There is a $50 per 6 months fee to the physician.  If you give Pete a call, he will explain it all to you.  

THANKS KALANIE, I WILL GIVE HIM A CALL.  MY DOCTOR LEFT HER PRACTICE.  

Hi Marsbar... Pete may have names of doctors in your area also.  I now have a great GYN in my area whose name was given to me by him.  Pete can help you alot... he is very knowledgeable and empathetic to those of us going through this phase in our lives.  Good luck.  :)

geez--can't believe all the night sweats flying around out there--me too, and I thought I was feeling better after three months of the hormone creams.  They all seem to be at night, no flashing during the day..but almost constant off and on sweating at night!  I was told I should lay off the estrogen cream for awhile so I will try that.  I use Ambien and sleep for a few hours but it wears off and in march the sweats.  Also migraines.  Drat.

Well.........I'm still sweating!! Grrr! Day and night!! Altho, it's eeeezin off a little!! Seems, the more time I can put between me and my last period, 2 and a half months ago....the iddy-biddy better it gets!!I'm feeling a little less hot.....and a little less wet!! Soooooooooooo....I better NOT have another period!!  PEROID!!:angry:((((((Hugs)))))) ~*Snowy*~

Hiya Silly goose and cate,

I don't have any night sweats anymore , so I guess being postmeno is doing some good I don't remember anything much helping me. But I didn't really try to find anything. Figured it wouldn't last forever, lol. Thought it might for a while there though. Have you tried sleeping in a tub of water? Then you won't know if you are sweating or not :biggrin: sorry couldn't resist. :)Hope you feel better soon , honest ,heehee,love and hugs, jeanne

This is my first visit.  I was using black cohosh for hot flashes and night sweats and it worked great for 6 months, then  my body got used to it.  Then I tried Vitex with no results.  I've heard about the compunded estriol cream, how do you get it.  Don't you have to get your doctor to prescribe it?  Do you think I could try black cohosh again after a months vacation from it?  Any advice would be appreciated.

Hi Pat  Welcome to the boards :)Sorry that you missed the chat on Thursday - we had a great compounding pharmacist as a guest, Pete, from College Pharmacy.  Lots of the women go to him for help.

About compunded estriol cream...you would need a prescription for that.  If your own doctor will not prescribe for you, Pete mentioned in the chat that they have a House Doctor you can use.  You might want to look into that.

Best of luck to you!

Thanks, I will probably ask my GYN about a prescription.  It's time for a visit.  We have a pharmacy right down the street that does compounding.

to those of you on different sleep aids - alluna sleep is an all natural (valerian and hops) that helps alot.  i can actually manage to get back to sleep after waking up sweating now.  it takes a few days to take effect, but worth a try.

me again------night sweats hit me every night at 3:48--and that is the end of sleep for me.  I am on the compounded creams (dot of estrogen, 1/4 t proges)--i can't figure out which cream to cut back/increase.  The depression, edginess and sweats are making me crazy. (no hot flashes during the day, why i don't know) . I got a period 30 days ago despite the creams and maybe my body is telling me it wants another one.  I am confused.  

Hello - I'm new here and from the UK but I'm sure we share the same menopausal symptoms as well as language :-)

I have been having dreadful night sweats for over 2 months now but I have also just finished a course of chemotherapy for breast cancer.  I WAS going into the menopause before the cancer was diagnosed but the chemotherapy has really affected my hormones and I can't have HRT as I suffer from "migraine with aura" which has sometimes left me semi paralysed down one side (the doctors over here won't give hormones (as a general rule) to people who have migraine with aura !)  I have heard that "Wild Yam" and Soya" can give you some "natural oestrogen) (my tumour is not oestrogen positive so this is not an issue) BUT I do also suffer from fibromyalgia and IBS and wonder if anyone has had sort of gastric side effects from taking either of these alternative medications ?

Jasc

Hi Jasc...  I get gas from the Revival Soy product that you will see written about all over these message boards, but I have still been able to take it in the form of the bars... the liquid is the only mode that gives me the gas symptoms, no matter how I drink it, or even if I use the special enzyme they sell to combat it.  I will not, however, give it up, as I have seen many, many positive results for myself that far outweight the gas, especially since I can get around that with eating the bars.  

I hope this is helpful to you, but please realize that there are many women here who can take any form of it without the gas problem, and who would also just about die before giving it up, like myself.  :)

Hi Jasc,After 2 years of IBS I finally figured out what was causing mine  -  milk and milk products! I don't know if you consume any  dairy but you might want to try giving it up for a few weeks and see if it helps. I couldn't believe the difference !  I really love ice cream and yogurt too.... but being able to stop that unbearable cramping and pain was worth it for me.  Every now and then I cheat and give it a try and boy am I sorry later.Suzie

Hi Jasc,After 2 years of IBS I finally figured out what was causing mine  -  milk and milk products! I don't know if you consume any  dairy but you might want to try giving it up for a few weeks and see if it helps. I couldn't believe the difference !  I really love ice cream and yogurt too.... but being able to stop that unbearable cramping and pain was worth it for me.  Every now and then I cheat and give it a try and boy am I sorry later.Suzie  p.s. The soy doesn't bother me.

Could someone tell me where I can find a list of symptoms identifying the differences between estrogen dominance and estrogen deficiency?  I seem to be having a hard time figuring out if I'm in need of more estrogen or less.  Thanks for your help!

Hi everyone, I don't know if I'm goind this right, or if I am in the right place even but I'll tell you about my experiences with nightsweats anyway. I am 51 and have been perimopausal for almost 8 years. I took loestrin  for awhile to regulate my periods, and then I went off for two years. In those 2 years I tried some natural supplements soy, black cohosh-and it seemed to be OK with and occasional night sweat and hot flash. It wasn't until this last fall that everything went wacky. My peiords have stopped now almost 9 months, I had some problems with asthma and bronchitis, which worried me for awhile, and I think that threw me into a real tizzy. I got anxious, fearful. So one thing led to another and my nightsweats started getting progressively worse. I'd wake up every hour sweaty, then  chilly and shaking. I tried prempro, it aggravated my asthma, so I only took it for 3 days. For the last week I have been taking natural hormones. Estridiol, prometreium. So far it hasn't helped. I don't know how long it takes for these things to work. How much to take? I have a doctors appt. for a phsycial next Wed. so maybe I can get somemore insight. But these nights I just feel so bad. Like will I ever feel normal again. I guess there is no  real definition of normal, but it sure would be nice to sleep in comfort, (with my husband again. Thanks for reading this.

Minnie,Never fear, you will be "normal" again someday--whatever THAT is! :)Menopause symptoms are caused by an imbalance of hormones, not necessarily the "lack" of them.  The trick is, finding what works for you.I would suggest that you read some of the other posts and threads on the "Night Sweats" board, and also, go to the "Recommendations" page.  You can get to it from the Power Surge Quick Links at the top of every page.  Just go to the drop down menu and click on it.  There are some VERY good suggestions there that have helped alot of us.  Also, check the "chat schedule" and join us if you can!  We have Thursday night "guest" chats, and informal chats throughout the week.  You can find that on the main PS message board.  Good luck to you!!!!!Debbi

My Experiences:

I get this really chilly feeling all over, even under the comforter....and then, all of a sudden...my  head startsheating up and then my neck....until I have to sit upand get a cold rag to put on me.

They make me have  heavy breathing and a faster heart rate, too.  Sometimes, it wakes me up and makes me sit up so fast, almost in a panic.  Myhubby doesn't know what to think about them.  

I can't sleep at all....and even if I take a sleeping pill...I still can't sleep really well.  My hubby is having someproblems sleeping, too...since, I am keeping him up.

Any help would be GREATLY  APPRECIATED....  :o)

Help!!!   I think I will go crazy, without SLEEP....

Mia

Hi all- I'm new and have just finished this thread. I just turned 50, all organs intact , vegetarian, familiar with soy as it is much of my intake, on progesterone cream, still get a sporadic period every few months, take black cohosh and other recommended supplements.. I cannot tell you the last time I slept a full night and WITHOUT hot flashes. I wake up steaming hot and then get chilled as I dry off. I've tried Ambien and it does nothing- I need a KNOCKOUT drug and then I wouldn't be able to function for work! :-( Another thing that just recently happened is that I suddenly went "dead" in my sexual organs. I have no desire and I cannot find arousal as it feels dead. Has this happened to anyone else out there? I've always had a very strong libido and this whole thing is bumming me out terribly. I have a loving and patient husband and would like to have my life back. Anyone care to respond? Thanks in advance.

hey crowgirl:  I have been in the same place (that hot, flashing low-libido place!)--- I am also on the progesterone cream with occasional periods.  However, I do use a dab of estrogen cream, as I was told that one of the first signs of low estrogen might be hot flashes.  Since I started with the estrogen cream I haven't had the bad flashes or the night sweats that I had.  Maybe someone else can comment on this also in case I don't have my info correct? I was given Testosterone drops (sublingual) for the libido but the jury is still out on whether it helps or not, and is quite expensive.  The only difference I saw  in having testosterone was an increased interest in watching the sports channel on t.v. (L>O>L>)

I have these night sweat things, but no daytime hot flushes yet.They tend to come in the run up to my period and last a few days, continue for the first couple of days of the period then go away again.I just take off my nightie, throw back the duvet, or sometimes do both and go off to the loo, and the walking around naked has the effect of cooling me down.I hasten to add that I would not do the walking around in the night naked bit if we had visitors, that would be a nasty shock for them!!

Ok, Beth, lol, I assume a "duvet" is a bed cover of some sort, and "the loo" is the bathroom?  :biggrin: