I love that song!:biggrin:  Thanks again for the info.  It sounds like it may be something I should consider.

Have a great day!Molly

Hi, Everyone,I just started on Revival 5 days ago.  Some of you mention you've been on it for a couple years or more, some a few weeks, etc.  I know that results must vary for each individual, but how soon is the soonest I might expect to notice improvement with my horrible peri symptoms?  What are some of your experiences with that?  (Of course, I'm counting the minutes of every day hoping to turn into a "normal" human being again!!!)Thanks to everyone on this topic for the info.Mare

Studies Demonstrate the Benefits of Soy on Postmenopausal Health

Research Presented at ENDO 2001, The Endocrine Society's 83rd Annual Meeting Shows Link between Strong Bones and Soy Intake

Denver, Colorado, June 21, 2001- New research presented today at ENDO 2001, the 83rd Annual Meeting of The Endocrine Society, which is taking place in Denver, Colorado this week, shows a link between postmenopausal health and dietary phytoestrogens. A panels of researchers presented three new studies, which all demonstrate that phytoestrogens-a compound found in legumes such as soybeans, peas, lentils, soybean sprouts, podded plants and soy products such as tofu and soymilk-may benefit the health and, specifically, bones of postmenopausal women.

In a study out of China, researchers studied 357 postmenopausal Chinese women to determine whether a link exists between dietary phytoestrogen intake and bone mineral density. Among the subjects, the average phytoestrogen intake was 21 mg/day-a number that is seven times higher than the phytoestrogen intake of the Western population. The study showed a link between high phytoestrogen intake and increases in bone mineral density.

"We found that women who ate 60 milligrams of phytoestrogens per day, which is the equivalent of two pieces of tofu or 3 cups of soy milk, had stronger bones" said Dr. Annie Kung, Professor at the University of Hong Kong, Queen Mary Hospital, who presented the study at the press conference. "These results suggest that phytoestrogens might help protect women's bones as they go through menopause."

Another study, which was presented by Dr. Trent Lund, an endocrinologist and researcher at Colorado State University, found a link between a diet high in phytoestrogens and decreases in body fat, body weight, prostate weight and blood pressure as well as alterations in insulin and leptin levels in adults. In the study, which was conducted by researchers at Colorado State University and Bringham Young University, male and female rats were fed a phytoestrogen-rich diet, a phytoestrogen-low diet or a phytoestrogen-free diet. The research showed that leptin levels significantly increased in both male and female rats that were fed phytoestrogen-rich diets compared with rats who received phytoestrogen-free diets. According to Dr. Lund, "the insulin levels in female rats who were fed phytoestrogen-rich diets were also significantly increased compared with females fed the phytoestrogen free diet."

Finally, Dr. Lee-Jane Lu, an investigator in nutrition research, and her colleagues-Drs. Manubai Nagamani and Karl E. Anderson-at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston, presented a study conducted in the university's General Clinical Research Center that examined whether soy consumption alters bone metabolism in postmenopausal women. The researchers studied the markers that reflect bone turnover in 12 healthy, postmenopausal women not on hormone replacement therapy. The women were studied before, during and after they ate a soy diet containing 112 mg of isoflavones for 16 weeks.

"Our findings suggest that soy consumption may stimulate bone turnover or formation," said Dr. Lee-Jane Lu. "Additional studies are now needed to determine whether soy diets have a long term beneficial effect on bone and a direct impact on fracture rates in women."

ENDO 2001, the 83rd Annual Meeting of The Endocrine Society, takes place in Denver, Colorado, June 20-23, 2001. Founded in 1916, The Endocrine Society is the world's oldest, largest, and most active organization devoted to research on hormones, and the clinical practice of endocrinology. Today, The Endocrine Society's membership consists of over 9,000 scientists, physicians, educators, nurses and students, in more than 80 countries. Together, these members represent all basic, applied, and clinical interests in endocrinology. The Endocrine Society is based in Bethesda, Maryland.

Dearest note: I'm a great believer in soy. Many women have had excellent results with Revival soy protein / soy isoflavones. I've personally been using it for three years. You'll find my experience at the above link.

Hi there!

I just ordered my Revival today and can't wait to get started on it -- I have a couple questions though. . .  I'm going to wean myself off of my estrogen and see how just the soy works for me.  Am I better off taking half the drink in the a.m. and half in the p.m. or all at once?  I think I read on a board here (can't remember which one, of course!) that taking half at a time was better.  Please help!

Thanks bunches!!

 I have just started taking Revival about 5 days ago  and already have noticed feeling better.  With my peri meno there are days I just don't feel well.....nothing I can put my finger on....just don't feel right.  Since I am super sensitive to aspartame I ordered the unsweetened Chocolate Dream and have been experimenting with it.  Plain water doesn't do much for me, but found mixing it with skim milk is pretty good.  Only thing is that I can't drink a whole pack at breakfast, just fills me up too much.  So I drink about half and then save the rest for my mid afternoon snack.

I never liked it mixed with water either. I also use skim or 1% milk. I've used it for over three years now and can't imagine starting a day without it -- tried the vanilla years ago, but love the chocolate daydream (with fructose). It's better than chocolate shakes I remember having as a kid.

I've been reading all the posts here for a long time, but I don't post much.

I do want to say that I've been on Revival for a while now and I love it.  Thank you so much for telling me about this wonderful product.  It has helped all my meno symptoms and I was even able to loose about 25 pounds.

Thanks!

Greetings to all. I woke today feeling wonderful. Have to take advantage of these rare days. Who knows what tomorrow will bring   I placed my first order for the Revival shakes late (of course) last night , or perhaps i should say early this morning.  Anyway after reading all the postive posts on it i am very eager to get it. I go to the dr. on the 25th and i am pretty sure she is going to want to change my meds. Think i will go for the Revival instead.

Feeling good from my head to my toes.......today is GOOD!

(((((HUGS)))))Sharon

Michelle and Sharon, that's really great to hear. I wish I could find more time to post the praises of Revival on the boards, but, alas, someone has to run the Web site :biggrin: and I obviously have had excellent results with Revival soy protein, or I wouldn't have used it for 3 years. My story can be read on this page because after mentioning it many times a few years ago, women were E.mailing me for information. It makes it easier to have my story on the site and point to that page.

Sharon, let us know how you feel after you've used the Revival for a week.

I can only tell you that 3 years ago when I was besieged by hot flashes, night sweats, insomnia, vaginal dryness, fatigue and DEPRESSION, I decided to give Revival a try -- after trying numerous other soy sources, but it was the only one that not only tasted terrific, but I haven't had a hot flash or any of the symptoms above since, plus the added benefit of having my menopause-related cholesterol drop by over 100 points. The best part was to be rid of the depression. The estrogenic action of the isoflavones is enough to get rid of many menopausal symptoms without the risk of taking hormones, plus soy is remarkable in that it also works in anti-estrogenic ways, which can serve to protect us from breast and endometrial cancer.

Another interesting point and people like MaryO will remember my posting about this in the past, but before I was on the family plan (of having Revival automatically shipped), on a few occasions I ran out and within a few days, the hot flashes returned, the feelings of fatigue and lethargy, the depression -- and it became obvious to me how powerful and effective this combination of protein and soy isoflavones really is. Power Surge recommends it highly to anyone looking for a solution to their menopausal complaints.

KathAZ says, "I just ordered my Revival today and can't wait to get started on it -- I have a couple questions though. . .  I'm going to wean myself off of my estrogen and see how just the soy works for me.  Am I better off taking half the drink in the a.m. and half in the p.m. or all at once?  I think I read on a board here (can't remember which one, of course!) that taking half at a time was better.  Please help!"

Kath, sorry I missed your message, but as I said in my previous post, I haven't been able to post to the boards as frequently as I would like. However, I would recommend having a whole serving in the morning. That seems to set me for the whole day. See how you react to that. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it at night because one of the major benefits from Revival is the boost of energy it gives you in the morning and I don't know that you want all that energy before bedtime.

Hi Dearest!  Thanks for the post and the e-mail!!  I know you are busy so it's much appreciated!! .  . .  I have been drinking all my Revival in the a.m. -- and now look forward to it every a.m.!!  So far it's working good -- only having "warm and fuzzies" that quickly pass once or twice a day and I do feel my energy level is somewhat higher than before -- hope it keeps getting higher though!!!!

Hugs to you:)

Kath, you're most welcome. I'm only too glad to help and even gladder that Revival is helping you. Lord knows, we need whatever natural, pristine products we can find to help us through this journey, which, at times, seems more like a roller coaster than anything else.

Hi...

I have a question about the Soy Revival that I would like anyone who has been taking it for any length of time to answer, according to their experience.  I have been taking it for about three weeks now, and just love it and what it has done for me, so far.  I am wondering if anyone else has had gas problems with the soy? I know the company makes a digestive enzyme, which I am also using with it, but I am mostly wondering if there comes a point, after using it for awhile, when one's body adjusts to the soy and the gas diminishes, so the enzyme doesn't have to be used anymore?

Now that I look at this question, it seems like kind of a silly one... I have never in my life adjusted to any other kind of bean products, so why would I eventually adjust to the soy?   :confused:

Vickie, I, too, have always gotten gas from any type of beans all my life, but I love beans. They're so healthy for us -- all types of beans, not just soybeans. However, other beans don't contain the  combination of protein and  soy isoflavones  that erradicates so many menopausal symptoms many women experience.

In the Ask The Experts area of the site, there's the Ask The Revival Soy Doctor area. Not only can you ask questions of the doctors at Physicians Laboratories, the developers of Revival, but you can search through the archived answers right from the above link. I did a search using the word gas and came up with some of their recommendations. If you click here, you can read those suggestions for reducing the potential gas problem some may experience.

I wish I could personally lead every woman beyond these message boards into the rest of this Web site. I think some people just find the boards and think this is it! There's an enormous site out there with answers to most of everyone's questions. To me, one of the most important areas of any Web site is the search. This site not only contains a general search of the entire Web site, but a search of these boards (see the menu at the top of this page) and a search through each individual expert's answers in the Ask The Experts area (link above). That's three individual searches on one site.

Dearest  

Hi Dearest...

Thanks for directing me... I usually comb through everything here, but must have forgotten about or missed that.  I will have to remember to use that search function more, too!  I got some good ideas from the recommendations, so thanks so much!  I am also glad to see that I am not alone with the gas problem, although I am not glad any of us have it!

This is in response to Mary Ellen.  I, too, have gained about 4 lbs.  I started using revival on July 5th and my hot flashes are gone.  I've been watching my diet and exercising faithfully everyday...but I've gained weight!  I just wonder if it has to do with the soy.  I heard that it can affect a persons thyroid.  Has anyone else heard that soy can cause weight gain?

"I am also glad to see that I am not alone with the gas problem,although I am not glad any of us have it! "

Nobody's glad about gasCause gas must eventually pass!Then everyone can tellYou can't hide the smell!So much for a dainty lass!  :biggrin:

Dearest

All this and limericks, too!  Such talent

I guess I've been blessed.  I've never had gas with Revival at all.

Also, to Jenny...when I started on Revival 3 years, I also (re)joined Weight Watchers.  While I stayed on the WW plan, I was able to lose 45 pounds, by incorporating the Revival into their food plan.  It is possible

Unfortunately, I got too cocky, thought I knew it all, went off WW and gained some of that back.  Now, I just have to get back to WW.  I know that I can do it again, if I really try

Dearest... Hahahaha... thanks!  That was toooo cute!   :cheesy:

MaryO.... Thanks for your input, too.. you must be one of those lucky ones that beans do not affect like that.       :biggrin:

having a real low week....started Revival almost 4 weeks ago...being very faithful to it....and enjoying it too....of late.....had a very bad day the second day of my period....weakness...lethargy....anxiety.....(always had no problem with periods in my younger days)....experiencing the sweats.....tell me...are hot flashes....and cold sweats basically the same?? Or am I really really sick?  I am blue.....and depressed and worried...please help.

Hi Pat,First, stay with the Revival.  It does help, believe me.  And the literature says it sometimes takes 4-6 weeks to "kick in."  Fortunately, it worked for me in about 2 weeks, although I still get the occasional hot flash.  In my humble opinion (which sometimes isn't so humble), a cold sweat will often follow a hot flash.  It did for me.  I'd sweat profusely with a hot flash, then when the flash passed, I'd be chilled and still be sweating.  Is this what you're getting?  If not, check out some of the posts on the "Anxiety" board - it might be a symptom of anxiety.

I am on the 5th day of my period - my first period in six months!  :angry: !!  And I am not happy about it.  And I've noticed all kinds of menopausal symptoms with it - especially the anxiety and panic attacks!  (I just posted in the Panic Attacks board).  And with the panic attacks come the sweats (for me).  And after the sweats, the cool down, and the chills from the sweat still being on me.  Is this what you're experiencing?

Anyway, don't blame it on the Revival.  I think that the Revival can only help.  It normalizes our systems by introducing soy based protein and estrogens - only very healthy things!!

So hang in there, Pat, and let us know how you are doing.Hugs,

"I just wonder if it has to do with the soy.  I heard that it can affect a persons thyroid.  Has anyone else heard that soy can cause weight gain?

Some weight gain and sporadic bloating (not necessarily from the soy intake, but from menopause itself) , is to be expected during peri and postmenopause, but you don't gain weight, per se, from soy or Revival unless you're eating too much as with anything else.

When I first started Revival in June of '98, I managed to work it into my weight loss program at the time and lost 24 pounds. Revival is meant to be used as a meal replacement. The chocolate fructose shakes I use have about 220 calories. I have the shake in the morning with a heaping tablespoon of ground flaxmeal in it. That probably brings the calorie count up to about 320. That's enough for me for breakfast.

If you have one serving of Revival per day, which is really all you need, you shouldn't be having weight gain at all. Slim Fast has more calories than Revival -- not that there's any comparison between the two.  

Dearest

I am not using Revival because I am allergic to soy products.   I sure wish I could after reading all the positive post here.  I think I will check out the Ask The Expert area and see if they have any suggestions about me using it.  But I wanted to add something about the weight gaining problem some are having on the soy.  I have noticed that when I do ANYTHING, herbs, flax meal, etc. to support my hormones I always gain weight.  I am wondering if the estrogenic effect these products have can cause weight gain like taking HRT.  Seems that is they alleviate the symtoms they are affecting our hormones so could that be causing weight gain or water retention???  Anyone have a clue?

I started Revival Soy in January of 2001. The biggest change I noticed was that my breast pain and tenderness completely disappeared within 5 days and has pretty much been all but gone ever since. I used to suffer from breast pain and swelling on a daily basis. It is so great to be able to sleep on my stomach again. I have been following Weight Watchers for over a year now and I did have some concern that it might be difficult to incorporate Revival into my food plan. However, No Worries! Since starting Revival in January, I have dropped over 30 more pounds making my total 65#. (I might add... YAHOO!) I had a bone scan this summer and my density has gone from osteopenia to normal levels. (Another... YAHOO!) I get the Chocolate Daydream aspartame variety plus I enjoy the bars on occasion as well. I think the coffee are terrific. Revival makes consuming soy very easy.

Hi everyone:

I have to say that I'm pretty impressed on all I'm reading here and all the info on Revival on P-S  including your post (((amhran))) - isn't that just great, how it increased your bone density within about 6 months or so (and your weight loss) - I'm so pleased for you about that :smile:  

I also have osteopenia (I'm 3 years' post-meno) and that's the principal reason I have been taking HRT for the past 4 months.   I wasn't too worried about the estrogen, being bio-identical, but I'm not very happy with the synthetic progesterone I'm taking, apparently made from chemicals (who knows what exactly!!).

If I really would be able to increase bone density taking Revival, plus the other added benefits and with all the testimonies and recommendations I've heard, I'm going to find out even more about it - and visit the Revival website.  

BTW - early stages yet, but the HRT has definately increased my anxiety level - I have been suffering from anxiety for some time now, but it's just too much of a coincidence the way I've been feeling during the last 3 months - like it's completely out of proportion!!  Now I am going to have to work my way round my gyn and GP who won't take this lightly :wink:

Barbiexxxxxxxxxxxx

I have been on Revival for two weeks now.  I can feel when the hot flashes want to come on, but they are not so bad.  My problem now is this awful weight gain.  I sure hope I lose some of this.  Jeez.

It really is depressing.

I have been using Revival for over two years now and have been very satisfied with the results.  Recently I have been reading in my magazines, and medical articles, that isoflavones in high doses, such as Revival, can cause breast cancer.  This is very disturbing to me, as I thought the isoflavones were protective against breast cancer.  These articles were supported by the American Cancer Society.  So, you can see why I am confused.  There are so many contraditions to all these menopause problems.  I am also referring to natural hormone therapy, etc.  If any one has any thoughts, or answers, I would appreciate it.  Dearest I really trust you, about Revival, and hormone replacement therapy.  I know HRT is a whole different story, but I have lack of libido, but my Dr. is against testosterone.  I had been using a small dose of bi-est, but am even scared to use this, and natural progesterone cream, compounded, 5% (50 mg.) using about 1/8 tsp twice daily.  I find that I am lacking underarm hair and not having to shave my legs.  I never had to do this much, as I am blonde.  But I feel that I must be low in testosterone.  How can I find doctors in my area (Denver metro), that will do this testing, and get my hormones back in order.

Thanks,

Chris

Chris, go to Ask The Revival Medical Doctor and click on the Search link. Do a search for breast cancer and you'll see replies come up in Dr. Tabor's archives to questions similar to yours. I just did a search in the area and came up with 102 responses.

Revival does not cause breast cancer. If it did, Power Surge would never recommend it.  One response to a question similar to yours.

Here's another response on the same subject.

Look up: Breast Health:* Can Soy Protein Help Maintain Healthier Breast Tissues?

These are only a few articles and answers that address your question. There are many, many more. Again, use the search to find additional Q's and A's regarding soy and breast health/cancer.

You can also write directly to Dr. Tabor at [email=drtabor@physlabs.com?Subject=From a Power Surge Visitor] DrTabor@physlabs.com[/email] and he'll be glad to answer your questions. However, do check out the search first because I have seen answers to other questions like yours.

Better yet, join us tonight in the Power Surge chat (On the chat announcements board) and ask Dr. Tabor yourself. He's my guest tonight.

Best,

Dearest

I missed last night's chat w/Dr. Aaron Tabor.  I wish that I could have chatted w/him.  Was at my Bible Study and just could not get back in time.  Can't do everything in  a day.

Huggggsssss

Becka says, "Dearest , I would like to know if you have read all the studies that have been done on soy overdose(for lack of a better word only). If I can remember the site where many of these very unsettling studies are listed I will write them here next time.

After reading them , though, I hope you and the other ladies will take care and also get better informed before taking high "doses" of the products of what soy produces. Seems they are finding  more and more evidence that this is yet another thing that shouldn't be taken by everyone but with consideration to your family history of certain diseases. No magic potion for anyone is there? Maybe someday there hopefully will be. We sure need one."

Becka, I consider myself well informed on the subject and it is something I wholeheartedly endorse in Power Surge. I would never endorse anything without prior knowledge of a product and without having used the product myself. This is something I feel very strongly about.  In this case, we're talking about a natural food supplement, soy,  which has been used for thousands of years by Asian cultures where, in fact, the incidence of breast cancer, osteoporosis and heart disease is extremely low. Japanese women are considered to be among the healthiest women in the world.

Most of my knowledge about soy did not start with Revival, but, rather, from years of using soy, long before I ever heard of Revival. My nearly 90 year old mother has been using soy isoflavones since her menopausal days and introduced me to it when I was in my early 20's. My mother never developed thyroid problems from soy. She never developed breast cancer. My mother's mother had intestinal cancer. My mother's father died of Leukemia. Her family history wasn't promising. My mother's belief is that her consistent use of soy the past 50 years has helped keep her healthy. She has no heart disease, no trace of cancer, no bone deterioration -- she's taken three serious falls in the past five years and each time the physicians present in the emergency room were amazed when they looked at her X-rays. They said it was astonishing that such serious falls didn't result in bone breakage in a woman her age. Her bone scans also show the bone strength of a woman half her age. She attributes this to the consistent use of soy.

My nearly 92 year old father who has a family history of prostate cancer had a scare a year ago. When he went in for surgery, the doctors were 95% sure he had prostate cancer. When they went in, they found no cancer. My mother has had my father on soy for years. I have had my father taking a Revival soy bar every day for the past two years.

When I was going through miserable hot flashes, mood swings, horrible depression, constant exhaustion and was also dealing with menopause-related elevated cholesterol (which I'd never had in my life before perimenopause), I followed my doctor's advice and cut out fats, eggs, anything that might help me to lower my cholesterol that climbed to 301. The doctor wanted to put me on cholesterol-lowering medication. I refused. For twoyears I ate the most boring diet which would have lowered anyone's cholesterol. Nothing. My cholesterol remained the same.

However, after using Revival soy and the combination of protein and the higher levels of isoflavones for 7-8 months, I had my cholesterol rechecked. My total cholesterol dropped from 311 to 196. My LDL (bad cholesterol) was 203. After 7 months on Revival, it was 104. My HDL (good cholesterol) was 43. It rose to 57. And for 2 years my triglycerides had been hovering around 299. After 7 months on Revival, the reading was 69.

I find it rather odd that someone, such as yourself,  who is so up in arms in the anxiety forum about normal, cautionary statements made by various people about the potential side effects of known addictive prescription medications takes the opposite and almost frantic stance regarding a natural food supplement such as soy.

Soy has, of late, become such a widely used food supplement by so many age groups in this country (but it's been around and used by complementary medicine people for many, many years) because of the health benefits it provides and the baby boomer generation, especially, is looking toward more natural ways of treating their health and aging issues. The growth of the market demanding soy products has become so enormous that it can't help but be cutting into the profits of the pharmaceutical companies recommending other methods of various health issues -- on this site, menopausal symptoms. Bear in mind, too, that many of the healthfood chains in this country have been bought UP by the big pharmaceutical companies. Why? You can figure that one out yourself.

My recommendation would be to set your sight on the positive stories you hear, the positive research and studies performed by not only legitimate institutions, but prestigious medical/research centers, such as Johns Hopkins.

I don't live in a vacuum, so, of course, I've seen the negative comments about soy. I see negative stories about vitamins and herbs. Then I turn on the TV or open a magazine or newspaper and see advertisement after advertisement about this prescription drug and that prescription drug with so many warnings about those who shouldn't use them that I wonder who's running the show.

I suggest you become more informed and I'll be glad to start you off on the road to educating yourself about soy isoflavones.

Dearest