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s-813
hi , i have gone to four different gynecologists in the last three months because of a sensation that i get in the vaginal area. i have actually had this sensation for about twenty years on and off. over the years i have been to different doctors. let me describe this sensation. it kind of feels like an urge to urinate. ok , so i went for urine tests to check for uti or bladder or kidney problems. no problem there. it also feels almost like a low grade orgasm, except it isnt pleasurabe because its too annoying. there is absolutey NO pain at all. i have had sonograms, xrays nothing is there. the only solution i was told was a POSSIBILITY is that the uterus may be SLIGHYLY prolapsed putting some pressure on the bladder, after having had four children. the sensation also feels like a tickling . it is driving me crazy and as far as the drs there is no real treatment for it. i take xanax for anxiety and that seems to alleviate it some. if anyone knows of anyone who has this or how to treat it please let me know since this is very very annoying.
dawn
I'm no doctor, and I don't play one on TV...but it almost sounds like some sort of nerve irritation. I don't know how you'd prove it, possibly lower back MRI.

Have you ever had a massage therapist work on your lower back to see if you could duplicate the sensation (that seems to be a way you could get a clue as to whether it's a spinal nerve that's irritated.)

If it's just a sensory thing that no body can explain, seems to me that there are meds you could try to alleviate it.
Duch
Hi. I read the post above, and this one from another thread

"i do feel warm during the night but i think the worst hot flashes for me are during the day. lately i noticed i was sweating and didnt really feel that hot. i felt a little warm. it was a warm flash rather than a hot one, but the odd thing is that it was producing a lot of sweat. it is like my pores just open up and starting leaking and it goes on for about a good ten to fifteen minutes. this was producing more sweat than a hot flash. is this unusual?"


You really ought to talk to a gyno - maybe one a friend could recommend if possible. I'm just a horse-wife. but I'll have a go at answering this.

It looks like you're perimenopausal. This means your estrogen levels are down. It could also indicate your testosterone, dhea and thyroid are being difficult, too. Have you been checked for estrogen levels? Have you considered HRT?

Usually, hot flashes are hot. They can last 1 minute to 1 hour. You may, or may not sweat. There is a similar condition called vaso motor flushing. This causes heat and flushing on a longer scale.

Xanax, like many anti depressants, will curb the intensity of these attacks. Either it will rein in the sensation of heat, or the skin sensation, or both. I suspect that is whats happening with your warm flashes.

Now the vaginal thing

Many women report a reduction of sexual desire (libido) or sexual responsiveness, ie, difficult to climax or cant stay focussed. Bear in mind, for women orgasm can be achieved vaginally, or by the clitorus or for some, both ways. There's lots of variablity between women

With lower estrogen, your sexuality can be adversely affected. It may knock out your ability to achieve vaginal satisfaction, but leave the clitorial sensations alone. (I suspect if this is the case for you, you may wish to have a testosterone and a dhea test done, too) This would leave the clitoris and urinary nerves, which I believe interact with the opening of the vagina, in tact. This may be why it is a confusing sensation of being somewhere between the need to make a trip to the loo, my darling or something more sexual or sensual.

The other thing is Xanax is known for diminishing your sexual desire or responsiveness.

If this is a problem for you, speak to your doctor. There may be anti-anxiety drugs that will leave you alone in that department, or even give your love life a boost.

Hope that helps.
kathleent
S-813,
I have the EXACT EXACT sensations/experience! You described it very accurately. I had test after test .... including numerous ones for UTI as I had been prone to those in the past (before peri) and all tests came back FINE! Still, I had this feeling of "fullness" and an urgency of sorts and that quasi-tingling. Here's what I have learned and also come to realize - for me, it's about low estrogen! I am confident of this even though I have no 'test results' to prove it. I read somewhere (can't remember where) that the urgency-feeling can be tied to low estrogen and I am convinced that is the case for me. I don't have it 100% of the time as it sounds you do. I do a few things that help ... first, I remind myself that it is perim and it will pass (this is HUGE for me as I can be a worrier). When it gets really intense, I have a prescription for "Phenazoyridine" that takes the edge off the sensations ... it's typically used to stop burning if one has a UTI. You can also buy it over the counter under the name "Pyridium" I believe. You can ask a pharmacist - they will know what you mean when you tell them it will turn urine orange and helps with urinary burning. I know it's available without prescription. I take one or two of these in 24 hour period when the sensations are really "high" and it helps. It doesn't completely take them away, but lessens them quite a bit. Then, after a few days, the sensations tend to diminish until somedays, I have no odd sensations at all. I also sleep with a warm hot water bottle or warm wash cloth between my legs - anything with "presure" on my urethra and vaginal area helps me at night.
I feel for you - I can so relate! this has all come up for me in the last 6 months - and I've been in perim over 2 years now. I now for me, it's hormonal. My dr says it's likely estrogen and that I can take estrogen reguarly to try and offset it - but I have not gone that route yet - only on a very sporadic basis - as I do use 2 bioidentical estrogen vaginal suppositories 2 nights/month.
If you need/want to send me a personal email, feel free. I'm sorry you're going through this and hope you know you're not alone. I'm right there with you! kathleent
LadyLatte
QUOTE (s-813 @ Jan 16 2007, 08:15 AM) *
hi , i have gone to four different gynecologists in the last three months because of a sensation that i get in the vaginal area. i have actually had this sensation for about twenty years on and off. over the years i have been to different doctors. let me describe this sensation. it kind of feels like an urge to urinate. ok , so i went for urine tests to check for uti or bladder or kidney problems. no problem there. it also feels almost like a low grade orgasm, except it isnt pleasurabe because its too annoying. there is absolutey NO pain at all. i have had sonograms, xrays nothing is there. the only solution i was told was a POSSIBILITY is that the uterus may be SLIGHYLY prolapsed putting some pressure on the bladder, after having had four children. the sensation also feels like a tickling . it is driving me crazy and as far as the drs there is no real treatment for it. i take xanax for anxiety and that seems to alleviate it some. if anyone knows of anyone who has this or how to treat it please let me know since this is very very annoying.


Hi There
I've had this too, I was thinking of asking if anyone else had had this but had no idea how to describe this sensation.... It's so strange.
I don't have it regularly but have had it quite a few times in the last month, along with more regular hot flashes. What I've found is I usually get this when I am being quite physical (gardening etc) and I was wondering if it co-incides with hot flashes which might trigger it, but since I'm usually hot from exertion/exercise when it happens, I can't be sure if it's a hot flash or I'm just bloody hot period!! cool.gif
Nice to know I'm not alone though .. and neither are you.
mvarrin
I have this. I went to see my doc about it last month and during the exam she diagnosed, with confidence, that my bladder is prolapsed and that I had an infection. I took a full round of cyprofloxin (do not like taking antibiotics) and now it's back and guess what? It's the same time of the month: 3rd week, right before my cycle when I know I'm low on progesterone, but estrogen too? Anyway, I'm so relieved to have you all describe this! It's been a tough one for me. Mine is usually the worst at night as I lie down and especially after a day of exertion. Is this true of any of you? Mine actually does feel painful at times. SO ANNOYING.

Michelle
Kippy Oops
I don't know if my symptom relates, but it sounds similar....

My periods have started getting irregular within the last year, so I'm probably in the early stages of perimenopause. Lately they've been very irregular so I really had no clue when the next one was going to start. About a week before my last one started I was getting these kind of warm sensations in my vaginal area/labia and they would be strongest when I was standing. There has been no pain. It almost felt like my flow was starting, so I was constantly going to the bathroom to check. Finally, the flow did start and all throughout my period I still had the sensation. I kept going to the bathroom to see if my tampon had leaked. Then when I actually had a leak I had no clue! Toward the end of my period when the flow was low, I also notice more sweating in my vaginal area. Am I getting localized hot flashes? The flow has stopped for a few days now and I'm still getting the warm sensation, but not to the same degree.

Has anyone else out there had this happen to them?
mvarrin
QUOTE (Kippy Oops @ Jan 27 2007, 04:25 PM) *
I don't know if my symptom relates, but it sounds similar....

My periods have started getting irregular within the last year, so I'm probably in the early stages of perimenopause. Lately they've been very irregular so I really had no clue when the next one was going to start. About a week before my last one started I was getting these kind of warm sensations in my vaginal area/labia and they would be strongest when I was standing. There has been no pain. It almost felt like my flow was starting, so I was constantly going to the bathroom to check. Finally, the flow did start and all throughout my period I still had the sensation. I kept going to the bathroom to see if my tampon had leaked. Then when I actually had a leak I had no clue! Toward the end of my period when the flow was low, I also notice more sweating in my vaginal area. Am I getting localized hot flashes? The flow has stopped for a few days now and I'm still getting the warm sensation, but not to the same degree.

Has anyone else out there had this happen to them?


Hi, I have had that, but mildly. It was this hot rush and localized and not as fun as when I was 25 and having them. :-)

Michelle
MelissaLynn
Hello everyone,

I'm 37 and thinking that because of the symptoms I've been having since I was about 35 and thinking that I too may be in peri. I haven't had the exact same sensation that is described in this thread, but I have had a feeling in my urethra the past year or so that felt just like a UTI, with the urge to urinate and only a few drops of urine would appear. I have been checked throughly and have no infections, no UTI, nothing that my GP can see would be causing this. All that my GP could tell me was that "sometimes as we get older our uterus falls and puts pressure on the bladder". I just looked at her funny mellow.gif because I didn't see why that would cause my urethra to have a burning sensation. I felt like she was saying 'I don't know so here is a pat answer, just accept it and be quiet'. That may not have been the case, but that's how I felt.
Alfreda
Hello Melissa
I have the exact same thing happening to me, just as you discribe it. It comes for a few hours out of the blue, I take an antacid, and some paracetamol, and lots of water, and after a few hours the symptom subsides. I am convinced this has to be a hormonal change, and am resisting a cystoscopy, as I do not want to go through that. I am 51, and lots of symptoms have increased this last few weeks.
Alfreda
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