I realize that I am the Minority view here....but what the heck....More did a big feature on Going gray, and has a whole thread on their message board for women who are happily going gray!!
I would not have plastic surgery. I dress very casually, and do not even own a single dress.
And I am certainly proud of my age,and all that I have gone through to get where I am.
What I find about these boards is that certain posters ( like me) have their posts ignored. It makes me feel very unwelcome! I feel that I have a lot to offer, though you might not all agree with my views on HRT, or More magazine.
I have endured marriage to an abusive alcoholic, a very difficult divorce, very severe financial challenges...
though it all, women have stood by me....my mother, my sister, and friends....we do not agree on everything, but there is SUPPORT
You may not like my views, but as the famous African-American Sojurner Truth said, "Ain't I a woman, too??"
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I'm not against plastic surgery either ... However, what puzzles me are the extreems that people will go to. A little nip and tuck doesn't bother me at all, hey it's one of the benefits of modern society. In referring to the "smooth face - chicken neck" thing, I was referring to the sixty year old trying for the twenty two year old hair and face look. We've all seen it ... The eyebrows look perpetually surpised, the rheumy eyes can't seem to smile with the mouth, hair so stiff from hair dye that it can't blow in the wind, etc ...
Please don't misunderstand me though. I do not want to criticize people like that, I just think that it is sad that they've been pulled into the standard that the media has thrust upon all of us. It is a shallow, futile, and ridiculous standard, that in the end amounts to a whole lot of nothing.
And I also do like magazines, just not the trash talking ones. But the models don't do anything for me. I can't imagine living a life where I'm hungry all of the time. I heard one model say in an interview that she will buy a candy bar, throw it away, then smell the wrapper when she gets really hungry ... Doesn't that just sound like torture?! We all should eat healthy, not too much, but enough.
Has anyone heard what Spain is implementing (Fox News)? They are not going to let models on the catwalk unless they weigh enough. AND, enough is going to be what the "real life" national average is. They are going to actually weigh and measure women taken from every walk of life, from young, to up eighty years old, do an average of those numbers , and then, with THAT number my friends, the standard will be set for the models in Spain. They are trying to stop the epidemic of eating disorders in their country ... GOOD for them.
Please don't misunderstand me though. I do not want to criticize people like that, I just think that it is sad that they've been pulled into the standard that the media has thrust upon all of us. It is a shallow, futile, and ridiculous standard, that in the end amounts to a whole lot of nothing.
And I also do like magazines, just not the trash talking ones. But the models don't do anything for me. I can't imagine living a life where I'm hungry all of the time. I heard one model say in an interview that she will buy a candy bar, throw it away, then smell the wrapper when she gets really hungry ... Doesn't that just sound like torture?! We all should eat healthy, not too much, but enough.
Has anyone heard what Spain is implementing (Fox News)? They are not going to let models on the catwalk unless they weigh enough. AND, enough is going to be what the "real life" national average is. They are going to actually weigh and measure women taken from every walk of life, from young, to up eighty years old, do an average of those numbers , and then, with THAT number my friends, the standard will be set for the models in Spain. They are trying to stop the epidemic of eating disorders in their country ... GOOD for them.
QUOTE (ex-urbanite @ Mar 14 2007, 07:30 AM) 
I realize that I am the Minority view here....but what the heck....More did a big feature on Going gray, and has a whole thread on their message board for women who are happily going gray!!
I would not have plastic surgery. I dress very casually, and do not even own a single dress.
And I am certainly proud of my age,and all that I have gone through to get where I am.
What I find about these boards is that certain posters ( like me) have their posts ignored. It makes me feel very unwelcome! I feel that I have a lot to offer, though you might not all agree with my views on HRT, or More magazine.
I have endured marriage to an abusive alcoholic, a very difficult divorce, very severe financial challenges...
though it all, women have stood by me....my mother, my sister, and friends....we do not agree on everything, but there is SUPPORT
You may not like my views, but as the famous African-American Sojurner Truth said, "Ain't I a woman, too??"
I would not have plastic surgery. I dress very casually, and do not even own a single dress.
And I am certainly proud of my age,and all that I have gone through to get where I am.
What I find about these boards is that certain posters ( like me) have their posts ignored. It makes me feel very unwelcome! I feel that I have a lot to offer, though you might not all agree with my views on HRT, or More magazine.
I have endured marriage to an abusive alcoholic, a very difficult divorce, very severe financial challenges...
though it all, women have stood by me....my mother, my sister, and friends....we do not agree on everything, but there is SUPPORT
You may not like my views, but as the famous African-American Sojurner Truth said, "Ain't I a woman, too??"
I'm glad that your comfortable in your own skin. We all need to be so happy. And I too think gray hair is pretty. I may change my mind as more of it turns, but I doubt it. And if you are that well balanced, I bet you DO have alot that you could offer the rest of us. I'm sorry that you've felt ignored.
QUOTE (ex-urbanite @ Mar 14 2007, 10:30 AM)
I realize that I am the Minority view here....but what the heck....More did a big feature on Going gray, and has a whole thread on their message board for women who are happily going gray!!
I would not have plastic surgery. I dress very casually, and do not even own a single dress.
And I am certainly proud of my age,and all that I have gone through to get where I am.
What I find about these boards is that certain posters ( like me) have their posts ignored. It makes me feel very unwelcome! I feel that I have a lot to offer, though you might not all agree with my views on HRT, or More magazine.
I have endured marriage to an abusive alcoholic, a very difficult divorce, very severe financial challenges...
though it all, women have stood by me....my mother, my sister, and friends....we do not agree on everything, but there is SUPPORT
You may not like my views, but as the famous African-American Sojurner Truth said, "Ain't I a woman, too??"
I would not have plastic surgery. I dress very casually, and do not even own a single dress.
And I am certainly proud of my age,and all that I have gone through to get where I am.
What I find about these boards is that certain posters ( like me) have their posts ignored. It makes me feel very unwelcome! I feel that I have a lot to offer, though you might not all agree with my views on HRT, or More magazine.
I have endured marriage to an abusive alcoholic, a very difficult divorce, very severe financial challenges...
though it all, women have stood by me....my mother, my sister, and friends....we do not agree on everything, but there is SUPPORT
You may not like my views, but as the famous African-American Sojurner Truth said, "Ain't I a woman, too??"
Nobody ever said your views were invalid and I'm sure you're, along with anyone else who feels this way, not being ignored intentionally. Some people just make clear and complete thoughts that need no further comment. I've made comments that I thought should have been addressed and weren't. I'm sure we all have. I get concerned that maybe I offended someone. But everyone's opinion is considered, even if it's not immediately commented on. But if the thread is long enough (like this one) eventually someone always picks up your baton and runs with it.
As for the "women going gray" article, that issue was actually the last one I bought. I remember the woman totally freaking out about the idea of going completely gray. I can't remember the rest of the article though. She ended up liking it, right?
After reading all these posts, both pro and con, maybe I don't know WHAT I don't like about the magazine. I think it finally comes down to it just not holding my attention, for whatever reason -- writing style, content, viewpoint, etc. I have some magazines that I read cover to cover as soon as I get it -- Empire (A UK film magazine), House and Garden and Scientific American Mind are a few examples. I've never done that with More. I guess I just wish I had a women's magazine that was for...what's the female equivalent of a Renaissance Man?... and that was stylistically more interesting to me.
My thoughts on gray hair...mine is surely getting there and yes, I dye it. I work in a college bookstore and as long as I have worked here, there has been someone older than me that the kids all considered the "mean old lady" at the bookstore. 
I have to admit, the last 3 really were!
Now they have all left and I'm the oldest woman here and I am determined, at least for now, that I won't become that "old lady at the bookstore"!
Maybe at some point in the future I'll let it go natural but for right now, this is right for me.
I have to admit, the last 3 really were!Now they have all left and I'm the oldest woman here and I am determined, at least for now, that I won't become that "old lady at the bookstore"!
Maybe at some point in the future I'll let it go natural but for right now, this is right for me.
On extremes:
I think you've hit it on the head. Almost everyone does something to improve themselves, whether its as little as soap and water and a nice shampoo, clean hair and clean clothes. How far one takes it is up to the individual - (although, like you, I keep seeing those smooth faced - crepey necked people, and what about those people with blue-white teeth? They glow in the dark) but some people are obsessive and take it to extremes. I am mindful though, that extremes in the other direction - caring nothing for one's appearence, and less for one's home - are linked to deep depression.
I think you've hit it on the head. Almost everyone does something to improve themselves, whether its as little as soap and water and a nice shampoo, clean hair and clean clothes. How far one takes it is up to the individual - (although, like you, I keep seeing those smooth faced - crepey necked people, and what about those people with blue-white teeth? They glow in the dark) but some people are obsessive and take it to extremes. I am mindful though, that extremes in the other direction - caring nothing for one's appearence, and less for one's home - are linked to deep depression.
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I guess I'm not in a good place right now, as far as how much I do for myself. I have younger children, I'm 50, they are 21, 12, 11, and there is no time for me. I work full time, a nurse, get home to do homework, supper, then to baseball, soccer, or basketball. My gym cancelled night aerobic classes so there is no place to go right now. One of the boys has special need so I can't leave them home alone, the 21 year old works and goes to school, husband works and goes to gym, is home at 8 p.m. So I look at MORE and wish I could be that thin, but that takes time, at this age it doesn't come off eating less at lunch. I used to love the mag, the articles, the strong women, now I feel like a slug! So as long as everyone else is taken care of....I certainly didn't mean to offend those of you out there who are up on their game. I do take my vits, don't smoke, watch what I eat, color my hair(until I have more pretty white roots), wear light make-up everyday, but MORE just gets to me. Myabe I'll pick it back up when I'm down 20 pounds!
Cheers, Mary! I do have an askii list around here... someplace... my memory is rubbish....
QUOTE (Duch @ Mar 14 2007, 01:37 PM)
On extremes:
I think you've hit it on the head. Almost everyone does something to improve themselves, whether its as little as soap and water and a nice shampoo, clean hair and clean clothes. How far one takes it is up to the individual - (although, like you, I keep seeing those smooth faced - crepey necked people, and what about those people with blue-white teeth? They glow in the dark) but some people are obsessive and take it to extremes. I am mindful though, that extremes in the other direction - caring nothing for one's appearence, and less for one's home - are linked to deep depression.
I think you've hit it on the head. Almost everyone does something to improve themselves, whether its as little as soap and water and a nice shampoo, clean hair and clean clothes. How far one takes it is up to the individual - (although, like you, I keep seeing those smooth faced - crepey necked people, and what about those people with blue-white teeth? They glow in the dark) but some people are obsessive and take it to extremes. I am mindful though, that extremes in the other direction - caring nothing for one's appearence, and less for one's home - are linked to deep depression.
Yeah I agree, it's got to be, either from depression or the cause of it. Because that's surley not a healthy thing.
Speaking of teeth, I actually got some white strips at Walmart. And when I wanted to use them, I couldn't stop salivating. It too much for me to keep swallowing and if I spit in a cup it makes me want to vomit just to look at it. And I CAN"T stand at the sink for all that time spitting and rinsing out the sink ... What a dilema
. HOW ON EARTH IS A PERSON SUPPOSED TO USE THOSE THINGS? I'll never even get my teeth white-white, never mind blue-white, at this rate.
QUOTE (Resaplus3 @ Mar 14 2007, 04:28 PM)
I guess I'm not in a good place right now, as far as how much I do for myself. I have younger children, I'm 50, they are 21, 12, 11, and there is no time for me. I work full time, a nurse, get home to do homework, supper, then to baseball, soccer, or basketball. My gym cancelled night aerobic classes so there is no place to go right now. One of the boys has special need so I can't leave them home alone, the 21 year old works and goes to school, husband works and goes to gym, is home at 8 p.m. So I look at MORE and wish I could be that thin, but that takes time, at this age it doesn't come off eating less at lunch. I used to love the mag, the articles, the strong women, now I feel like a slug! So as long as everyone else is taken care of....I certainly didn't mean to offend those of you out there who are up on their game. I do take my vits, don't smoke, watch what I eat, color my hair(until I have more pretty white roots), wear light make-up everyday, but MORE just gets to me. Myabe I'll pick it back up when I'm down 20 pounds!
Honey, you didn't offend any of us. Sounds like you've got your hands full, to say the very least. If you can get all that stuff done in a day, then your no slug. Hang in there, and only read things that make you feel uplifted, okay?
I completely understand why you would not like MORE at this point in your life....or maybe not ever...
I only have time to exercise since I have no husband, no boyfriends, and only one child at home....so exercise is my social life.
Believe me, when I was married with 2 younger kids, I had no time at all to exercise, or do much of anything for myself at all.....
even though I have been a stay-at -home mom for many years, I did all the yard work,( still do that!), handled all the remodeling, practically lived at Home Depot, cooking etc....and I homeschooled for 7 years...so there was NO time for me, not at all...and I was heavy...someone once even asked me if I was the mother, when I was with my sister ( who is five years older than me...ouch!!!)
All of these magazines annoy me sometimes, I mean they are so very unrealistic....
the funny thing is that I just got the latest issue of MORE, and it has nude older women ( tasteful) and more than one is heavy...so perhaps they are trying to be more realistic!
Thirdseason, I totally admire all that you do!! You are one hard-working woman!!
I only have time to exercise since I have no husband, no boyfriends, and only one child at home....so exercise is my social life.
Believe me, when I was married with 2 younger kids, I had no time at all to exercise, or do much of anything for myself at all.....
even though I have been a stay-at -home mom for many years, I did all the yard work,( still do that!), handled all the remodeling, practically lived at Home Depot, cooking etc....and I homeschooled for 7 years...so there was NO time for me, not at all...and I was heavy...someone once even asked me if I was the mother, when I was with my sister ( who is five years older than me...ouch!!!)
All of these magazines annoy me sometimes, I mean they are so very unrealistic....
the funny thing is that I just got the latest issue of MORE, and it has nude older women ( tasteful) and more than one is heavy...so perhaps they are trying to be more realistic!
Thirdseason, I totally admire all that you do!! You are one hard-working woman!!
Thank you Ex-urb 
... you don't sound so bad yourself.
... you don't sound so bad yourself.
I just finished an issue of Better Homes & Gardens and found a lot in there for me. In the first page, there was an ad for Dove Pro-age products that amazed me! Women in their 50's and up--I was impressed!
Luv
Thats interesting. Just this week, I saw Dove start an advertising campaign on tv for those Dove Shampoo and cream rinse etc., designed for the older stunner, and I too was well impressed. Demographically speaking, we are a huge group (boomers) who want products geared to our needs and tastes. Such things should do well on the shock .. I mean stock exchanges too.
And, I just read that bcp such as Loestrin represented a new class of bcps geared for older women (+35). Takes care of birth control, and addresses some peri symptoms at the same time.
who knew?
Thats interesting. Just this week, I saw Dove start an advertising campaign on tv for those Dove Shampoo and cream rinse etc., designed for the older stunner, and I too was well impressed. Demographically speaking, we are a huge group (boomers) who want products geared to our needs and tastes. Such things should do well on the shock .. I mean stock exchanges too.
And, I just read that bcp such as Loestrin represented a new class of bcps geared for older women (+35). Takes care of birth control, and addresses some peri symptoms at the same time.
who knew?
QUOTE (Thirdseason @ Mar 15 2007, 08:02 PM)
Honey, you didn't offend any of us. Sounds like you've got your hands full, to say the very least. If you can get all that stuff done in a day, then your no slug. Hang in there, and only read things that make you feel uplifted, okay?
Thanks for the booster shot. That 's why women need women.
I guess sometimes it all gets to you , you have to vent.
QUOTE (ex-urbanite @ Mar 15 2007, 08:15 PM)
I completely understand why you would not like MORE at this point in your life....or maybe not ever...
I only have time to exercise since I have no husband, no boyfriends, and only one child at home....so exercise is my social life.
Believe me, when I was married with 2 younger kids, I had no time at all to exercise, or do much of anything for myself at all.....
even though I have been a stay-at -home mom for many years, I did all the yard work,( still do that!), handled all the remodeling, practically lived at Home Depot, cooking etc....and I homeschooled for 7 years...so there was NO time for me, not at all...and I was heavy...someone once even asked me if I was the mother, when I was with my sister ( who is five years older than me...ouch!!!)
All of these magazines annoy me sometimes, I mean they are so very unrealistic....
the funny thing is that I just got the latest issue of MORE, and it has nude older women ( tasteful) and more than one is heavy...so perhaps they are trying to be more realistic!
Thirdseason, I totally admire all that you do!! You are one hard-working woman!!
I only have time to exercise since I have no husband, no boyfriends, and only one child at home....so exercise is my social life.
Believe me, when I was married with 2 younger kids, I had no time at all to exercise, or do much of anything for myself at all.....
even though I have been a stay-at -home mom for many years, I did all the yard work,( still do that!), handled all the remodeling, practically lived at Home Depot, cooking etc....and I homeschooled for 7 years...so there was NO time for me, not at all...and I was heavy...someone once even asked me if I was the mother, when I was with my sister ( who is five years older than me...ouch!!!)
All of these magazines annoy me sometimes, I mean they are so very unrealistic....
the funny thing is that I just got the latest issue of MORE, and it has nude older women ( tasteful) and more than one is heavy...so perhaps they are trying to be more realistic!
Thirdseason, I totally admire all that you do!! You are one hard-working woman!!
Hey, you may not have a husband, boyfriend, but you do it for YOU and how it makes YOU feel. Bravo. You are healthy and fit. Maybe you'll be one of the nude, sexy, proud women in the mags, but you'll have to give your name as ex-urbanite so we all know it's you!
QUOTE (Resaplus3 @ Mar 17 2007, 06:12 PM)
Hey, you may not have a husband, boyfriend, but you do it for YOU and how it makes YOU feel. Bravo. You are healthy and fit. Maybe you'll be one of the nude, sexy, proud women in the mags, but you'll have to give your name as ex-urbanite so we all know it's you!
Thanks for the kind words, but I would NEVER pose for any magazine....too shy, and despite all my exercise, still more flab than I would like!!!
I do feel much, much better physically though, and try to focus on that ....
MORE Magazine:
I get all my magazines from whomever leaves them in the break room.
I stumbled on MORE once or twice.
jj I totally agree with your rant.
I read it a few times and guess what I found.....
all the ads were the same types of adds used in
vogue
cosmo
all those
toothpick mags.
so I stopped reading it.
check out Weight Watchers mag.
they do the same thing.
I am (what does the census call it...)African American
and all mags directed to that ethnicity have
vogue and
cosmo adds in them.
My genetic make-up is not geared in that direction.
so....
I suffer deeply from the social acceptance
and availability of products i can use.
no toothpicks allowed in my house.
I buy no "foo-foo" magazines.
I buy "Looking Good" it shows
many people going through many things
of all ages.
I have been 193 days with no cycle.
I wan to make it to 365, im half way there
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I get all my magazines from whomever leaves them in the break room.
I stumbled on MORE once or twice.
jj I totally agree with your rant.
I read it a few times and guess what I found.....
all the ads were the same types of adds used in
vogue
cosmo
all those
toothpick mags.
so I stopped reading it.
check out Weight Watchers mag.
they do the same thing.
I am (what does the census call it...)African American
and all mags directed to that ethnicity have
vogue and
cosmo adds in them.
My genetic make-up is not geared in that direction.
so....
I suffer deeply from the social acceptance
and availability of products i can use.
no toothpicks allowed in my house.
I buy no "foo-foo" magazines.
I buy "Looking Good" it shows
many people going through many things
of all ages.
I have been 193 days with no cycle.
I wan to make it to 365, im half way there
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I think women who deny the existence of perimenopause can definitely be feminists; maybe they are thinking that it will hurt women if the world sees middle-aged women as potentially raving lunatics due to declining hormones or something. I mean, in the past many people said they would not support a woman president because women were seen as "unstable," basically due to hormonal issues.
I'm just trying to defend this More magazine editor, because she may see the denial of peri as a way to deflect criticism of women. Then again, maybe she doesn't think this way, it's just a thought.
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I'm just trying to defend this More magazine editor, because she may see the denial of peri as a way to deflect criticism of women. Then again, maybe she doesn't think this way, it's just a thought.
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I mean, in the past many people said they would not support a woman president because women were seen as "unstable," basically due to hormonal issues.
I wonder what the numbers are, by gender for incidents of murder. Assault and battery. Assault with a weapon. Road rage. Bar room fights.
QUOTE (Duch @ Mar 21 2007, 07:18 PM)
I wonder what the numbers are, by gender for incidents of murder. Assault and battery. Assault with a weapon. Road rage. Bar room fights.
Gee, I see women in high places being forthright and telling "the bad guys" like it is. Enough killing our young men, and theirs, killing each other. Women do not fight over who has the biggest penis, also known as, who has more land. You are sooooooo right. It's the fighting gender. But then I think about the inequality women around the world suffer, the abuse. Should we leave them to their own defenses? Try to change a country hundreds of years older than our own? If women are in power here, maybe, over time, we can turn the others around. They will see how women can make it work that is, if they are allowed. UGH!
That's what I mean--true feminists MAY be trying to downplay menopause so as to disarm men (and even dumb women) from using hormonal issues against us. That's why I think that author is doing it (I don't really know why she is saying there is no perimenopause, but that could be the reason).
So well written. Thank you for summing it all up and telling it like it is.
Jonesy
Jonesy
QUOTE (joliejacq @ Jan 13 2007, 11:09 PM)
Several years ago, when my periods were still regular, and a predictable monthly "hit" of estrogen made me THINK I WAS THINKING STRAIGHT, I decided to extend my subscription to More magazine for a full 3 years.
Not long after doing this, peri hit. And since then, each month I just get MORE AND MORE (so to speak) ANNOYED with this magazine!
It was great a few years ago when they had the ONE issue where Jamie Lee Curtis posed in her underwear, and we actually got to see her cellulite and thickened waist and - bless her heart - REAL features without makeup...
But that's the ONLY "real" woman More has ever shown us! This magazine, supposedly produced for women our age, features women who look, well, ****AMAZINGLY*** good for their ages.... Why? To sell us the products advertised within their pages!!!
I feel that my generation of women, who were coming of age in the 1960's, have been being nipped at the heels by the super-model mentality ever since. There's always someone our age, who (with a little help) looks FABULOUS! I am sooo sick of being reminded of how much BETTER MY LIFE COULD BE with the right diet/makeup/plastic surgeon/career/clothes/life regimen!
WHEN WILL MORE MAGAZINE DO AN HONEST PIECE ABOUT THE POTENTIAL HELLS OF PERIMENOPAUSE? They are so darned WUSSY about this!
WHEN WILL MORE MAGAZINE DO A STORY ABOUT POWER-SURGE? Because I know - I KNOW! soooo many women feel alone, and would love to find our community!
WHEN WILL MORE MAGAZINE TALK ABOUT THE REAL ISSUES WOMEN OUR AGE FACE? - the empty nest, the difficulty of finding friends at this age, the body booboos, the husbands going through their own mid-life crises? Women raising their grandchildren? People determining how best to navigate their remaining years? Spiritual concerns?
It's all about careers and looks!
I just received my most recent copy today, and there, on the cover is Diane Keaton, whom the cover text informs us is 61 FREAKIN' YEARS OLD, looking better than she did at 24!
And why??? WHYYYYY??? We're meant, I suppose, to be impressed and consider how much better we could be, if only we once and for all - FINALLY - got our **** together!
I want a BREAK from all this nonsense. So many years of not feeling like I'm enough - not smart enough, pretty enough, sexy enough, talented enough, and I know I AM NOT ALONE.
I am SO GLAD that at 61, my grandma did not look like Diane Keaton does on the cover of "More!" I am SO GLAD my grandma primarily cared about being kind and making us soup and letting us sit in her cozy lap! I am SO GLAD my grandma sat outside watching us swing or teaching us how to knit or cook pancakes, or sing our ABC's!
I shudder to think of my grandma having been primarily focused on keeping her stomach flat!
And you know what else? I think my grandma was SO LUCKY not to have to think about all this nonsense! I want my life to be about something more than all this surface crap!
What MATTERS in this world, anyway? Am I to be focused on looking "young and sexy" until I DIE??? NO THANKS... I'll just relax and enjoy my grandkids, and hopefully give them memories of a grandma who cared about something more than her own selfish self!!
Sorry, all - I WARNED you this is a rant!!!
The remainding issues of my subscription are going straight from the mailbox into the shredder! NO ***MORE*** women's magazines that are all about the stuff that doesn't REALLY matter!
JJ
Not long after doing this, peri hit. And since then, each month I just get MORE AND MORE (so to speak) ANNOYED with this magazine!
It was great a few years ago when they had the ONE issue where Jamie Lee Curtis posed in her underwear, and we actually got to see her cellulite and thickened waist and - bless her heart - REAL features without makeup...
But that's the ONLY "real" woman More has ever shown us! This magazine, supposedly produced for women our age, features women who look, well, ****AMAZINGLY*** good for their ages.... Why? To sell us the products advertised within their pages!!!
I feel that my generation of women, who were coming of age in the 1960's, have been being nipped at the heels by the super-model mentality ever since. There's always someone our age, who (with a little help) looks FABULOUS!
I am sooo sick of being reminded of how much BETTER MY LIFE COULD BE with the right diet/makeup/plastic surgeon/career/clothes/life regimen!WHEN WILL MORE MAGAZINE DO AN HONEST PIECE ABOUT THE POTENTIAL HELLS OF PERIMENOPAUSE? They are so darned WUSSY about this!
WHEN WILL MORE MAGAZINE DO A STORY ABOUT POWER-SURGE? Because I know - I KNOW!
soooo many women feel alone, and would love to find our community!WHEN WILL MORE MAGAZINE TALK ABOUT THE REAL ISSUES WOMEN OUR AGE FACE? - the empty nest, the difficulty of finding friends at this age, the body booboos, the husbands going through their own mid-life crises? Women raising their grandchildren? People determining how best to navigate their remaining years? Spiritual concerns?
It's all about careers and looks!
I just received my most recent copy today, and there, on the cover is Diane Keaton, whom the cover text informs us is 61 FREAKIN' YEARS OLD, looking better than she did at 24!
And why??? WHYYYYY??? We're meant, I suppose, to be impressed and consider how much better we could be, if only we once and for all - FINALLY - got our **** together!I want a BREAK from all this nonsense. So many years of not feeling like I'm enough - not smart enough, pretty enough, sexy enough, talented enough, and I know I AM NOT ALONE.
I am SO GLAD that at 61, my grandma did not look like Diane Keaton does on the cover of "More!" I am SO GLAD my grandma primarily cared about being kind and making us soup and letting us sit in her cozy lap! I am SO GLAD my grandma sat outside watching us swing or teaching us how to knit or cook pancakes, or sing our ABC's!
I shudder to think of my grandma having been primarily focused on keeping her stomach flat!
And you know what else? I think my grandma was SO LUCKY not to have to think about all this nonsense! I want my life to be about something more than all this surface crap!
What MATTERS in this world, anyway?
Am I to be focused on looking "young and sexy" until I DIE??? NO THANKS... I'll just relax and enjoy my grandkids, and hopefully give them memories of a grandma who cared about something more than her own selfish self!! Sorry, all - I WARNED you this is a rant!!!
The remainding issues of my subscription are going straight from the mailbox into the shredder! NO ***MORE*** women's magazines that are all about the stuff that doesn't REALLY matter!
JJ
QUOTE (DesRothchild @ Mar 23 2007, 01:45 PM)
That's what I mean--true feminists MAY be trying to downplay menopause so as to disarm men (and even dumb women) from using hormonal issues against us. That's why I think that author is doing it (I don't really know why she is saying there is no perimenopause, but that could be the reason).
Oh my. I know this was written almost a year ago, but I just came across it today and I had to respond.
Feminism has nothing to do with being stupid, uncaring, and unsympathetic (though I'm sure there are plenty of feminists and anti-feminists who fit these shoes.) A "true" feminist (whatever THAT is) would recognize that we are all unique and what is reality for me might be quite different for you.
Please don't paint all feminists with the same brush. Any mag exec who would make the statement that peri doesn't exist is stupid in my book. She certainly lacks empathy and she certainly never lurked on THIS website!
My definition of Feminism:
Thirty-five years ago my mother worked in a manufacturing plant. The men were given a ten cent an hour raise, the women five. When the women complained, they were told that the men got more because they had families to support. Please. Like the women were there because they were bored at home and wanted some pocket money. When the men whose wives worked at the plant along side them, doing the same job, figured out THEIR wives were being cheated, they turned into feminists overnight. The women didn't get the same pay raise, by the way, until the men and women threatened to go to the New York Times.
The moral of this tale? You shouldn't have to have a penis to get equal treatment. Or equal pay.
Just my two cents worth. DesRothchild, I'm a feminist and I bake the best pecan pie you will ever eat! Have a great day!
I can't stand More magazine. It has made me feel worse about myself than any other magazine I've ever subscribed to. (And I love magazines so I subscribe to A LOT of them over the years).
I just discovered this thread, too, and had to throw in my own rant about More! I liked it when it first came out, but don't like it at all now. When I got my latest issue and one of the articles listed on the cover was "Sleep in the nude and other ways to sail through menopause!" I thought, you've got to be kidding me! And I hate the clothes. They are ridiculously expensive! Many of us cannot afford or do not wish to spend several hundred or over a thousand dollars on an outfit! In this latest issue, they had a cashmere top for over $4000 with a $3300 skirt and $475 shoes! Ok, so I'm not a career woman.....but let's get real! I don't think many women spend that much money on clothes. And I thought it was ugly, too. Definitely not my taste.
And, like some of the others have said, it makes me feel bad about myself. Like I am not good enough in so many ways. Think I need to cancel my subscription; don't think I can take several more months of it.
And, like some of the others have said, it makes me feel bad about myself. Like I am not good enough in so many ways. Think I need to cancel my subscription; don't think I can take several more months of it.
Luckily my MORE subscription was up for renewal last month. It felt good to write "Please Cancel!" across the invoice. The only good thing I've ever gotten out of it was the encouragement to let my hair go gray, starting with the Jamie Lee Curtis article and a few other articles since then. Other than that, I completely agree with all of you. Either the magazine is out of touch or I am. I think it's them.
Em
Em
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