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Grace
Hi, all!! I started this "new topic" because the other one  was getting so big and I didn't always find the right page. Hope you don't mind.

I have been having some really good days. I don't know what got into me. I have been staying within my WW points and under 1500 calories. I am wondering if I am doing better because I just visited with family and I will be seeing other son and family in Sept. They need me to watch the kids while they go to Md to look for somewhere to live. I am excited and nervous at the same time.

I haven't had anything sugary in the past 5 days either. I am eating carbs, but whole grain ones with lots of fiber. I also have treated myself to some fresh picked corn on the cob from a farm "out East". It is certainly sweet enough for me and a good all natural "whole" carb. That may be keeping me satisfied also.

As I mentioned, I don't know why all of a sudden I have been able to stay on track. I wish I could bottle the feeling and use it when I have trouble again. I bought a pair of jeans today because they were 30% off the reduced price. They are from Old Navy and they are a teeny bit snug. I am hoping that by looking at them I will be able to continue to stay on track. I am pulling out all the stops to get through these 2 weeks. I made my own personal challenge. I thought when I made this challenge for myself, (there were no plans to go to parties), I would have no excuses to goof up. Well, that has changed but I am volunteering to bring a green salad and desserts from the Entemann's outlet that I won't eat. I looked at the nutrition labels!! I will bring my bottled water and just drink that. I usually only drink water, but I don't trust tap water all the time.

Oh, I certainly went on!! It felt good to talk to my friends and partners in crime...LOL.

Hope to see you at chat. Hope it is going well with you all. Jeanne...you have to tell us how your tests came out. Hope that cholesterol is going down.

Hugs!!Grace

jeanne
I got a big gift from the powers that be today:) I have been praying that somehow I could get an exercise bike.Just couldn't figure out how though since we just don't have money for that kind of thing. But I figured I'd ask and see what happens. Well, today we were looking around at garage sales and there it was waiting for me smile.gif And the even better part was the sign on it said "FREE". I couldn't believe it. Someone is definitely watching over me :)Now that my legs start hurting for me to walk very much , I still will be able to exercise . I'm just so happy.Maybe i  an start losing some weight now , it should help. Just thought I'd share that incredible story:)smile.gifsmile.gif

hugs, jeanne

SylvryMoon
Sweet Jeanne -What a wonderful gift from the universe!!  See, sometimes our higher power wants us to succeed, even though we don't have the means or the money to get there ourselves, and *plop* out of the heavens comes a little unexpected gift!!  A free exercise bike!  Wow - that is truly cool!!  :cool:  Ride it well, my friend, and enjoy every minute on it.  I'll be thinking about you!Hugs,
Texwoman
Uh oh Jeanne,

No excuses now! :biggrin: :biggrin:

What a god send. Cool!

Take it easy and try not to make the mistake I did. Too much, too fast.  I learned that lesson over and over before I finally got it!  

Hugs, Chris

Grace
Hi, ALL!!

Jeanne...that is great that you got that exercise bike. What a great way to get started and do take Chris' advice and don't do too much too soon. It is also a great way to find out if it is the exercise for you!! With an investment of $0, how can you go wrong??

Well, all, you know that great week I was having?? Well, I blew it at the party yesterday. I went 7 days staying on program...staying within my WW pts and under 1600 calories, exercising 6 out of 7 days, drinking my water, getting in more fiber and no sugar. Well, I lost it over dessert. Was it because I didn't have any sugar all week?? I don't know, but it proves that I have no control when I see food I like when not at home. I am discouraged...the scale has not moved. How can that be with being good all week and goofing up only one day?? I am trying not to get discouraged and I will wait and see what happens when I go to WW  on Tues. Wish me luck!! I will be totally stumped if I don't see any results.

Hope to see you Tues with good news.  

Grace

jeanne
How much are you trying to lose Grace? Could it be that maybe you are a good wieght right now? I don't think blowing it on desert one day could do it. Could it be not enough variety? I seem to remember Zelma saying something about eating a variety and making sure of the fruits and vegies. Just a thought . Anyway, even if you aren't losing fast , remember that it still is making you healthier. You didn't fail at all! you did really well.  I think that scale of yours is messed up.It can measure different at different times of the day too. Well, I could go on and on (as you know :biggrin:) so bye for now , hugs , jeanne
Grace
Thanks for the input Jeanne!  All good ideas there. I did really well again Sun and Mon. I will see what tomorrow brings!!

Grace

Grace
Lonely chat last night...for a while it was Jeanne and I. We were able to keep it going between the 2 of us for awhile and then Robin joined us. We even talked about weight loss!! We had our own private chat.

I couldn't wait to share that I lost 2 lbs at the WW weigh in yesterday. That is the best I have done in  long time. I am still on track even after going out for dinner last night. I ate my salad and brought home more than half of my entree of chicken and ribs. Ribs were for husband to eat tonight.

I am determined to be really good for another week and see what happens. I am going in week intervals and not looking too far ahead. The motivation is still here and I am taking advantage of it!!

Hope all are doing well. Missed you Dearest and Mary last night. Hope you are OK!!

Grace

SylvryMoon
Hi Gracie, Sorry I wasn't there last night either.  And sorry to hear it was such a small chat.  You saw my post about the cheeseburger and awful choices I made last night.  Well, today I feel . . .hung over!  Yes, all that fat and starch put me right into la-la land, and I am feeling heavy and sleepy today.  I'll be trying to have a better week . . .and hope to join you next Tuesday!Hugs,
jeanne
Hi ladies,Do I have a feeling that some of us are giving up on our weight? We need to resolve to keep trying. I just got a free exercise bike and it has made me very determined to at least get fit. And who knows maybe I will lose some weight too:)Remember -- eating healthy NOT dieting . Eat what you want just don't pig out (heehee-like I use too )We can do this I just know it!hugs, jeanne
MaryO
Grace, I'm ok smile.gif  

My scehdule is so messed up right now that I forgot what day of the week it was LOL

Grace
HI!

Mary...glad you are OK!! See you next chat.

Jeanne...you are one motivated lady. Keep peddling...the bicycle I mean...LOL!! Good luck with your exercise program.

Sylvry...Boy do I know what you mean about that hung over feeling. That saying is so true...you are what you eat. I know I feel awful the day after I eat too much sugar, or in another word...crap. OOPS! Are we allowed to say that?? Drink lots of water to flush it out. Now don't stay away if you have a bad day. If that was the case, none of us would be here.

Hugs to all and keep plugging away. We can do this.

Grace

SylvryMoon
Today was a typical example of why healthy eating is so difficult for me . . .

In the wonderful world of automotive America, where females are in the minority, I had a meeting at one of our plants (may I add, BIG plants -- as in, General Motors).  The meeting was at 10 - so I had my banana and Revival Shake at 8am, and drove the 90 minutes to the meeting.  As usual, I was the only woman in the meeting.  (sigh! sometimes it is good to be in the minority - but at lunchtime, it is not!).  By 1pm, I was ready to eat the overhead projector!!  But the guys (numbering 6 in the meeting) said, "I'm Not Hungry! - Let's Keep Going!".  (typical male macho).

By 2pm, I was not only fantasizing eating the overhead projector, but the projection screen, the hand-out materials, and all the goodies in the nearby snack machine as well.

And by 2:30 pm, when the most powerful manager in the meeting said, "I had breakfast, I don't need lunch"  I was ready to faint, collapse, and die.

So I spoke up for myself and said, "Well, I need SOMEthing -- I'm quite starving!"

And what did they do?  Brought in a pack of M&M peanuts and a granola bar.  :angry:  And that was my lunch.

BAH!!  What am I to do -- when that is the representative of my days!!  

I want to be healthy, I NEED to be healthy, and I'm stuck with granola bars.  And by the time I left the meeting, I was soooo starving, I stopped at Mickey D's and got a QP with cheese, supersized fries, and diet coke!  UGH - I hated it, but I needed the food!

Please!  Any one's suggestions would be greatly appreciated, before my thighs expand any larger than they are!

jeanne
Hi Sylvry, This is going to sound quite simplistic, and I know it can't be this easy , and don't hit me I'm taking blood thinners and bruise easy. :biggrin:, However, seems to me when you know there is a meeting and you may not be near a place for a good lunch(healthy , but filling) wouldn't it be a good idea to bring along a sandwich and a piece of fruit ? Or even some of that snack size fruit cups or something like that?That's what I would do. I even take something with me when we go to the casino so I won't be tempted to get something at the snack bar. Anyway, that's what I'd do. :)But a McD now and then ain't gonna kill you. smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif:)hugs , jeanne
zjsurfer
Grace,

Congrats on your 2 lb. lost!!!!!!!!!  Sorry I didn't make the chat--having orientation this week for my PHD program--been wiped out every night!!!  Keep going, girl, you're doing GREAT!   :biggrin:

Zelma

Grace
Hi, all! I am at chat, and no one else is there yet. I am so discouraged today and I have no one to talk to. I weighed in today and didn't lose anything after being really good with staying within my WW points/calories and exercising. I am trying not to give up. I will give it until Sept 1st. After that, who knows??

I guess I need a shoulder. Oh, well...see you on the boards.

Grace

GGc0ok
Hi Grace, here's my shoulder smile.gif

I forgot until 7:00(i'm in Pacific time) so I went in and nobody was there, then I went to the 24/7 Power Surge chat room on AOL,,,,,,,nobody there either.  I know how you feel, I had put on 5 lbs recently in addition to my already 20 lbs, but in the last few days I've lost a couple.  I can't figure things out either. I think we use so much energy trying to do the "right" thing, eating and exercising, trying to think positive, etc. sometimes I think if we just be sensible, and not be a slave to the issue of our "fluff" it'll happen.  I'm trying to eat smaller portions.  I'm still eating, just smaller amounts.  Will see.  My problem is finding my stamina, to get up and go, to do my walks, and Yoga,(I'm new to that, my fluff gets in the way).  Energy has left me big time.  People say that it does come back, so I'm waiting patiently.  

Its just one of those days Grace, tomorrow is a brand new one.  It'll be a good day Grace, smile and know that your not alone.

GG :biggrin:

jeanne
Hi Grace ,I showed up late too. sad.gif I can't figure out what happened to the Diet chat ???anyway, i am exercising a lot on that bike and having fun even if i don't lose a pound. i haven't weighed myself in a while -kinda afraid to. but it should help me lose shpuldn't it? I know at least it is good for my heart and lungs. sorry you haven't lost. But it seems to me 2 pounds can come and go so fast with water gain and loss during your cycle. I use to gain 5 punds and lose it all after my period, so I guess that can still happen. What i don't get tho is how you don't lose when it sounds like you do everything right. have you asked a doctor about it? There has to be an explanation. It is very puzzling and I'm sure very frustrating for you. At least I know why I didn't lose. I wasn't exercising at all. Sure would like to know the reason. Discouraging for me too , to hear  all that and no results. I'll keep trying though. Maybe it just takes time. Try to stick with it . It worked for Zelma to the tune of over 100 pounds so it has to work! take care and hang in there . I will too :)hugs, jeanne

Grace
Thanks GG and Jeanne! It was nice to have your shoulders around.

I got very discouraged again today, and then I went out for lunch with 2 of my girlfriends who just had surgery. One had a hysto last Tues and the other had a breast biopsy yesterday. Here I am feeling sorry for myself for not being able to lose weight and they have these medical problems. How shallow!!

I handled not losing by pigging out today. Well, it was just soup and Greek salad with grilled tuna that I didn't finish, but it felt like so much food! I ended up having a slice of pizza for dinner even though I said I wasn't going to eat anything. Nothing like self sabatoging me. Well, it can't hurt me anymore than not eating did. I wasn't losing "dieting" so what could happen??

I  really think it is not working for me because I already eat low fat and healthy and exercise almost everyday.There is really nothing much I can change to lose. I started counting calories just to see how much I do eat and it is not that much different from my normal eating (except for special occasions). I practically cut out all sugar and still no results.

I am hoping I got it out of my system and I will be back on track tomorrow. I am teaching 2 classes in the morning so I will have a jump start there.

Jeanne, great job with the exercising!!  I am so glad you are liking that bike. Keep it up!!

GG, you will get energy from the exercise. Don't give up!! It WILL help you feel better!!

Sorry I missed you last night and thanks for listening!

Grace

jeanne
Hi Grace,I don't dare get on a scale right now . I think I may even have gained a few pounds. I am like you quite discouraged really. maybe I am just expecting too much too fast , but geeeeeez!!! I am eating right , exercising everyday at least 30minutes, staying away from carbs and sugars , grrrrr. I haven't strayed yet , but I feel like I too might as well just pig out.I need to keep my will power up though. *sigh* I just want to see even a LITTLE improvement. Oh well, such is life I guess. Sorry about your friends , I hope they all turn out fine :)hugs, jeanne
zjsurfer
Grace, Your pigout doesn't sound too bad to me!   Try not to get discouraged--we all have weeks of not losing.  Some of us have even notice a bit of a lag in results--you lose the second week after you've been real good.  Unfortunately, sometimes that works for gaining too--show the gain 2 wks.  after you've been "bad".  Try to stick to it and see if you lose this week.  Also, make sure you are getting enough fruits/vegs and water and at least your min. number of points per day.  That helps too!wink.gif
Grace
Hi, all! After the horrific happenings in NY, I have not been on track at all. I don't even care except to be in front of the TV hoping and praying that there will be some miracles and some of the victims will be found alive.

I am in Charlotte right now. I wish I was home in NY with all my family around me. I want to give everyone a hug. It was a rough few hours when the lines were down and I couldn't talk to anyone. The closest call was daughter's husband in the city and right outside the WTC when it happened. He did witness first hand the poor people jumping. He is now safe and sound back in NJ.

Well...when I get back home I, if I get back home anytime soon, I will post and we can try again to get back on track. It just seems so unimportant right now.

Hugs to all...Grace

NancyV
Hi Grace,

I understand how you feel.   When your basic sense of safety is threatened, it seems like other things are trivial.

But I do think eating to be healthy is really important to deal with not only meno but this national crisis as well.

If we feel ok, it is just easier to deal with stress in general, so taking care of yourself is even more important now....even if it doesn't necessarily lead to weight loss for right now.  

Take care....  

jeanne
Good point NancyV, no use adding more agony to an already dreadful situatuion. Besides we can't let those *#@%@#+*&# get us down or they have won. And we just can't let them win anything!Take care Grace ,it matters because YOU matter :)hugs, jeanne
Dearest

MIDLIFE WEIGHT ISSUES CHAT!In our Web chat room Weds., Sept. 19 5 PM, EST - 2 PM, PST

Bring all your questions about midlife weight issues (and bring some M&M's, too!)ohmy.gif  

Our own HSpec, a teacher, who lost 40 poundsand her take charge atttitude will whip.. errr..encourage us to get with the program!

in our Web  chat room.

NancyV
Haha! Dearest,

You are too funny!!!  Thought the word whip might be appropriate..smile.gif  could name the group WHIP (Women Having Intestinal Problems (food)...smile.gif

Georgia Dove...~~~

Grace
Hi, all! I am back in NY and back on track, hopefully. It sure does feel good to be home. The house is actually pretty clean...Daughter was very busy scrubbing away before I got home. She was off for the Jewish holidays and did a pretty good job with the house.

I do miss the "babies" already, but it was time to be home. I do find it a lot easier to eat healthy at home. I did put on weight, but I am not discouraged. I already subbed 2 classes...was called last night after 9 pm to sub today. It was a great start to getting back into exercising...I did a kick boxing class and a toning class. I should be really sore tomorrow, a good sore!!

Hope you are all doing OK. I am looking forward to Tues night and the chat. Hope you will be there. Let's think of a challenge we can do for a couple of weeks. Something personal for each of us...like keeping a journal everyday, or exercising x amount of days...etc. I am going to think of something and decide by Tues.

Hang in there all...

Grace

jeanne
Hi Grace,Good to have you back smile.gif Got some news though, the chat has been changed to Wednesday at 5p.m. Eastern time.  Hspec is helping us this week and next .She lost 40 pounds on a program and is going to see if she can help us :)She even gave us homework to do till next Wednesday. We are to write down everything we eat for the whole week. Next Wednesday we will see what changes we all should be making. She said not to worry about what you eat right now (short of pigging out I would guess :biggrin:) , just as long as we write it all down. If you want to know anymore feel free to email me ok? Wonderful that you got to see the babies smile.gif:)hugs, jeanne
NancyV
Hi,

Hspec program is not the Potatoes Not Prozac (the book) approach is it?  You journal everything you eat as part of that.   What is the general approach?

I have been doing the Potatoes Not Prozac for a week and it definitely cuts carb cravings...once you eat right with complex carbs and timing of them along with protein etc...(it is a 7-step program).

I have been doing this for a week....this is the worst time of my cycle and I see a big improvement over last month with depression much less and abdominal bloating is much less....

You need to journal to see exactly how your own body reacts to foods by how you feel.

The book is worth reading to see how our brain chemistry is affected by food.    But I need to see how it affects weight over time....seeing improvement in mood would help wanting to snack I think.

I can see now that going too low carb on the Atkins diet may have reduced serotonin levels and this diet ups that naturally so you don't feel compelled to eat sweets...or even so many white flour breads..

I recommend the book Potatoes Not Prozac.....It does not promise weight loss per se but does help to correct the chemistry that leads to overeating.  

According to the book,  those of us with hypoglycemia or a family history of diabetes or alcoholism have the chemistry that makes it very important to eat a certain way or you get hooked on carbs like others get hooked on alcohol.  Then it becomes a viscious cycle of weight gain and depression...and makes menopause harder as well with fatigue I suppose as blood sugar becomes more erratic then.

Wish you guys success with whatever works....it helps to share and get support...

Dearest
Nancy, believe me, HSpec will literally whip us into shape. I liked your acronym though :biggrin: I just thought of one - WUS (whip us [into] shape). Think I'll stick with the original one, GIGS - Getting Into Good Shape (which I'm wondering if I'll ever manage to accomplish). I did so well for 3 1/2 weeks off the sugar, cut down on carbs, lost a few pounds and BAM, along comes a errrr.. family situation... that threw my emotions into the comfort eating zone. Been there since. Not a pretty picture.

Jeanne, you remember how resistant we were to HSpec's homework assignment?  Well, as it turns out, unfortunately, neither I nor HSpec thought about this in advance, but neither of us will be able to attend Wednesday at 5 as it's the start of Yom Kippur, the day of atonement among Jewish people, the most sacred of all our holidays --  through Thursday at sundown.

Maybe we can arrange to have our weight chat on Friday afternoon at 5 (if that will work for HSpec). I think I can be there. However, you're all welcome to attend the chat to support one another in our absence on Wednesday. I'll let you all know if it's going to be set for Friday at 5. Wil that work for everyone?

Dearest

SylvryMoon
Dearest and HSpec,Friday at 5 should work for me -- if I can make it home from work by then.  If not, it will be shortly after 5.

Please, spend the Day of Atonement in blessed contemplation and prayer.  Our thoughts will be with you.

Hugs,

Dearest
Grace!!!! Welcome back. So glad you got to spend time with your adorable grandchildren and it's very difficult to watch your diet when you're travelling and away from home

Anyway, glad to have you back. Maybe you'll be able to attend the Weds afternoon chat (5 PM, EST) since you're so knowledgable about fitness and diet. Nancy, you, too. Perhaps you can share more information about the Potatoes Not Prozac program (What a brilliant name).

Course, were it me who came up with that idea, I'd probably have called it Chocolate, Not Clonopin :biggrin:

Dearest

Aunt B
Dearest

LOL  :o ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

athenea
Hi girls:

Strolling round P-S on a Sunday afternoon :wink: I just found a newly signed on member in the General Midlife Issues Board in the Wednesday afternoon (the 19th) chat string, her name is NEL 2001, (that is Dearest's above post, which is so funny :-))

I answered Nel and suggest she post in Weight Issues, or other boards 'cos I thought her post would be a little bit lost where it was.  I tried to welcome her to P-S., but you know me, I probably frightened her off :biggrin:  so in case she doesn't post again here, or anywhere else, maybe someone would like to say hello as well.

I also told her that there'll be another weight chat next Wednesday, but Dearest you're right, I forgot all about Yom Kippur (I won't be there either).

HSpec I came late last Wednesday, and I'm sorry I missed it).

Speak to all soon,Barbie xxxxxxxx

MaryO
Just for the record, I'll most likely never be able to attend on Wednesdays.  Boo hoo!
Grace
Hey, we can always meet on Tues. at  9 anyway. I will stop by Tues and try to remember to stop by on Wed too this week. We can just chat and catch up a little. I don't know if I will be able to do Wed too often...dinner time around here. Don't feel like you are the only one, Mary.

Of course, new beginning again on Mon. I am so glad I caught The View, Friday. They mentioned a lot of people are turning to food since the 11th. We are looking for comfort foods. Add that to the everyday and unexpected stress in our lives, and we are turning to a lot of comfort foods. I think I ate 1/2 of a low fat, home made carrot cake in the past 2 days. I find I am shopping and preparing food more than ever. So, I not only turned to comfort foods, I have turned to "comfort" activities I liked to do when the kids were still at home. Too bad I couldn't be more like Meredith and turn to wine!! I like her approach!! She doesn't eat her stress...she drinks it!!

Thanks for the welcome back, Dearest!! It does feel good to be home and somewhat back on schedule. Sorry to hear you are experiencing "family" stress. I am on the carb roll right now also...but have to get back to...GIGS! It will come back to you, Dearest!! Hang in there. One day you will feel ready to start. Just try to get through one day and then you will be able to do another and another.

I am interested in learning more about  the Potatoes not Prozac program.  It sounds like a  reasonable way to have our carbs and eat them too.

Thanks, HSpec for coming to the rescue. I really hope we can hook up for a chat weekly. I need all the help, support and info I can get.

Hugs, All...Grace

HSpec
Sorry, Friday's don't work for me. Just keep up the journal for another week. We will forge ahead the week after Yom Kippur. Just be patient with yourself.I promise, I won't let you down.H
HSpec
Post script:  Remember to bring the journal to the chat.Thanks.Be safe. H
NancyV
Dearest,

I liked that Chocolate Not Clonopin!!  If thinness was based on humor, our group would be in good shape huh? smile.gif

Also there is FFS, the dreaded Fattening Family Syndrome you are experiencing....now we have to avoid them as well as sugar...not as doable though..

So when is this next chat.now....I would invite Amy to attend  also if I know when for sure...she knows more about the Potatoes Not Prozac than me.

I am drinking my glass of "delicious" zero calories water.  You know getting in a habit of anything is half the battle...but what habits actually work is what I am trying to find out...Drinking water is second nature to me now....would like the right food to be that too.

cookie
Hi gang

I may have to join this chat.  I've put on two pounds since Sept. 11.  That is a day I won't forget soon.  Not only was our world changed but I also quit my job that day. I am not under as much stress but being home all day I seem to be sooooooo hungry and eat when I'm not really hungry.  My gym membership has expired so I will have to go back to walking around the block.  I've been thinking alot lately about that box of chocolates in the freezer, I think they have my name on it. :biggrin:I think it is great you gals supporting one another, it's wonderful when we have someone to lean on.....when things seem to get out of hand.It truly is a blessing that Dearest has provided this forum for us.........what a wise, wonderful and caring person she is.  Kinda like the font of all knowledge.:cool:Keep up the good work ladies.  One day at a time or sometimes one hour at a time.  You go girls.

Grace
Hi, all!! I will be stopping by the chat room at 9 pm if anyone is interested. I will be leaving another chat and will come right over. It would be nice to talk "live" with someone.

Grace

Grace
No "dieting" for me this weekend. I am just going to continue making good choices and go for walks.  Mon is my new beginnings day. I want to read Dr Northrup's plan on what to eat to feel good and healthy and hopefully keep the weight down.

Have a good weekend all...I will be here Mon for anyone who wants to start again.

Grace  :)

Dearest
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