~K~
Nov 23 2006, 09:52 PM
I had my endoscopy with just the throat spray because of sedation phobia and it was awful. He took lots of biopsies because he saw inflammation and POLYPS, which apparently are quite rare in the stomach. I am terrifed. My DH and I are just trying to get over the shock of his heart stent surgery, now this has happend.
Has anyone had these? If they are cancer will I slowly be chopped apart? I asked the endoscopy man if they could be removed vis the same procedure but he just mumbled something about an operation being needed. I feel as though I'm in a nightmare situation. Please can anyone help?
Nevermore
Nov 23 2006, 09:57 PM
K, I'm so sorry, I don't know anything about this. But I am praying for your and for your husband so that everything will be OK. ((((hugs))))
Nev
RoundRobin
Nov 23 2006, 11:43 PM
I understand why you are upset; it's scary to find out something you don't understand. You're right; polyps are rare, usually found in people over 60. They're also rarely cancerous, and usually are removed surgically. Are you having any other symptoms? Pain, bleeding, etc?
Polyps usually don't cause any symptoms and are found most often when doctors are doing an endoscopy for something else. I am at high risk for them, because I have GERD and have taken meds for it for year. I have a friend, 59 y.o. who had them removed and he was fine. Try not to worry; the stuff that we freak out about the most usually turns out to be fine.
Let me know how you're doing...when do you follow up with your doctor?
~K~
Nov 24 2006, 01:48 AM
Thanks for the much needed hug Nevermore
RoundRobin, Thankyou for the reply. I have been having severe heartburn and bloating plus feeling full after eating very lsmall amounts. The endoscopist also mentioned an area of inflammation.
On a previous post Squiggle mentioned symptoms of gastritis and I'm wondering if I have this but don't know yet until I see the gastro man again.
What sort of surgery might I face if the polyps can't be removed via endoscopy?
I think that since menopause and a few years of high dose Norethisterone (progesterone) which I took to prevent endo-hyperplasia from returning, I might have had reflux, but thought it was just indigestion.
Kim
squiggle
Nov 24 2006, 03:06 AM
Hi K,
Well gastritis is exactly that - stomach lining inflammation. It's not pleasant but your symptoms won't get any worse, ans it can be treated. You will most likely be given Omeprazole (or one of the same family of drugs) to stop your stomach producing acid. Don't worry K. If they find you have h-pylori bacteria (a common cuse of gastritis and ulcers) they may also give you high dose antibiotics for a couple of weeks too.
I don't know much about polyps but they are usually benign elsewhere in the body so I expect the stomach is the same. I would think any op to remove them would be "down the throat". I was told stomach cancer is only really seen in male smokers over 60 years old. I'm sure all is well
~K~
Nov 24 2006, 03:57 AM
Hi Squiggle, Thanks for the reply. I was already on Omeprazole for about twelve weeks with no change. I remember your gastritis lasted for about a year (I've been under lots of major stress )
Apparantly one in five polyps are pre-cancerous and that is enough to scare me to death. In my mind I'm already having my stomach removed

Health anxiety seems to destroy most perspective. Menopause destroys the rest.
squiggle
Nov 24 2006, 04:13 AM
K - "Pre" cancerous is the key! This doesn't mean you have cancer. Also that means you have an 80% chance that they are not pre-cancerous! Also they can remove them - so you won't get cancer! Try not to worry!
Boy do I understand that health anxiety. I was convinced I had stomach cancer too, despite everything my GP said about me not fitting the "mould". Well I am still here 2 years later and I am better, although my stomach is actually a little sore today (it still comes & goes a bit). I think chocolate seems to set it off. (I only had 1 small chocolate yesterday). Weird!
See this link K
http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/DS/00758.htmlSounds like endoscopy is the usual method of removal. Cancer is very rare.
Pippin
Nov 24 2006, 08:01 AM
K - I am very sorry to hear about your results, but try not to worry too much - I am well aware that is easier said than done!
I had an endoscopy a couple of months ago, which really terrified me, but I was not as brave as you - I had to have the sedation.
I was diagnosed with gastritis ( which, as Squiggle says is inflammation of the stomach) I also had biopsies taken, and they discovered that I had H pylori. I have been give antibiotics, but I am still getting pains in my stomach, but not so bad at the moment, (touch wood!) but they have had phases before when they have eased off, only to come back with a vengeance.
I have also been on a proton pump inhibitor for about 7 or so years to control a hiatus hernia/GERD problem. Most of the time that is kept under control by the tablets. However, I have read that continuing long term use of these tablets can adverse effects, particularly if H pylori is present.
I do not know anything about the polyps, but the anxiety I can relate to very much so!
I also understand what you must be going through worrying about your DH. My husband is 16 years younger than me, so I thought that he would always be stronger, fitter and live longer than me - but 3 years ago one night I awoke and felt something was wrong - I asked him if he was OK, and he slurred some incomprehensible words out. I thought he was having a stroke, and rang for an ambulance. To cut a long story short. all tests revealed nothing, although he did not regain full consciousness for about an hour. A similar occurence happened about 6 weeks later. He was given anti-epileptic drugs, although he was not diagnosed with epilepsy, but the consultant said that as his work involves a lot of driving, this could avoid another such episode. He was unable to drive for 12 months, but thankfully, it has not happened again.
Having a younger husband become suddenly ill like that, after being so fit, makes any health anxiety you have for yourself magnify, as well as the well known effects of the meno!
I do hope that both you and your husband will recover quickly.
Pippin
Meryl
Nov 24 2006, 08:13 AM
I could be wrong, but I understand that the proton pump inhibitors like Prevacid and Prilosec create polyps by turning off proton pumps, creating a polyp. Maybe it's not the same kind of polyp you have, I don't know. I think I have them all over. If I were to go off the medication, that pump would once again pump, no longer being a polyp. That's what I kind of understood from my last endoscopy. I have another one scheduled in February (after six years).l My doctor just goes in there periodically to make sure everything is okay. This might be what your doctor was talking about, I don't know, but if it is, I don't think it's anything to worry about.
RoundRobin
Nov 24 2006, 01:56 PM
K: I've been on several different proton pump inhibitors, Prilosec being the current one..I had to try a couple before i could find one that relieved my symptoms. Also, I take twice the normal dosage...that's what it takes for my stomach not to be in pain..
~K~
Nov 24 2006, 03:12 PM
Thankyou all so much for the much needed empathy. I really do appreciate it.
Squiggle...that link was very informative
When the man that did the endoscopy said that the polyps couldn't be removed via endoscopy and that I would need an operation, I panicked because I thought they must be very large or numerous.
I just fear that there might be cancer in the wall of my stomach or something because I'm in so much pain and have no appetite at all.
I suppose gastritis might be doing that
Thanks again
Kim
squiggle
Nov 24 2006, 03:42 PM
Kim,
This is what I think:
Going by the info in that link, it is very unlikely you have the cancerous type.
There is less than a third chance that you have that 3rd type and even if you do then only 1/10 of those would eventually turn cancerous - so that is less than 3% chance you have the PREcancerous type. That's 97% chance that you don't! Put together your age and gender, stomach cancer is very unlikely, particularly if you don't smoke! Also if you were in that 3%, precancerous means they can be removed before a problem occurs. Also you haven't had gastritis for years and years by the sound of it for these polyps to have developed long enough to have turned nasty.
It also says that the polyps don't usually cause pain - that is more likely due to the gastritis. Gastritis is very common. There are probably thousands of people out there with polyps that don't know it & never get a problem. Think of it like moles. Loads of people have them - very few actually cause any problem, but many people have large moles removed just in case.
seahorse
Nov 24 2006, 06:27 PM
Kim
I just had an endoscopy done last month because I was having so much pain and burning too. They saw inflammation and took a biopsy but that is all it turned out to be...just inflammation. I am taking nexium now and it has helped out tons. One of the reasons to have colonoscopys is because they can get the polyps out before they become cancerous. I was told by my gastro that it takes between 5-10 years for a pre cancerous polyp to actually become cancerous and I am assuming it is the same for an endoscopy. I was also having the same symptom as feeling full quickly.
Try not to worry about it. I know that is easy to say but I just went through almost the same thing and I am much better now.
Kim too!
Madge
Nov 28 2006, 08:08 PM
I have a acid reflux question. I began having reflus symptoms in August of this year (acidy mucus in the throat, feeling of lumps in the throat, a need to belch, chest and back pain and a feeling that food was stuck in the middle of my chest.) My doctor put me on a three-week trial of Protonix, and some of the symptoms went away. Then I had an endoscopy which found inflammation around the stomach valve that leads up into the esophagus. After a week or so, I was put on generic Prilosec (omeprazole) and told to take it for a few months.
My reflux symptoms are pretty much gone unless I consume a trigger food, like tomatoes, garlic, coffee, tea, mint, or chocolate. But I do have nausea/queasiness along with a churning stomach for several hours every day. (Feels like I drank about 6 glasses of water.) Mylanta doesn't help, actually not much does. I had it ever since the endoscopy, even before the Prilosec was started. But it's worse now, even though the reflux symptoms are almost gone (other than a belchy feeling in my throat at times).
Have any of you experience this??? The queasiness and gurgling stomach are really tough to deal with. Is this sometimes a part of Gerd or reflux? I'm hoping it will go away in time. Anyone?
Meryl
Nov 28 2006, 08:10 PM
Hi. You are probably having difficulty digesting your food and it's remaining too long in your stomach. I get that occasionally and I take Reglen for it, which moves the food through. You should talk to your doctor about it, but it's probably just that, and it does come and go. Actually, knock on wood, I haven't had it for years.
Madge
Nov 28 2006, 08:11 PM
I forgot to mention that my doctor wants me to try ranitidine (generic Zantac) when I run out of Prilosec in a few weeks. He says it's not quite as strong and is a good way to taper off the PPIs. He's hoping it will work for me. I also want to get off the Prilosec because it has brought my irritable bowel symptoms (constipation and cramping) back with a vengeance. Am hoping the ranitidine will be better, but am skeptical. Have any of you used ranitidine or Zantac instead? Thanks.
seahorse
Nov 28 2006, 09:07 PM
I used Ranitidine before starting on the nexium. It worked fine for me before I had the bad flare up. I am back using it and have had no problems with the reflux as long as I watch what I eat and drink. It is also much less expensive than the nexium.
Kim
Iradan
Nov 28 2006, 09:27 PM
QUOTE (Madge @ Nov 28 2006, 07:08 PM)

I have a acid reflux question. I began having reflus symptoms in August of this year (acidy mucus in the throat, feeling of lumps in the throat, a need to belch, chest and back pain and a feeling that food was stuck in the middle of my chest.) My doctor put me on a three-week trial of Protonix, and some of the symptoms went away. Then I had an endoscopy which found inflammation around the stomach valve that leads up into the esophagus. After a week or so, I was put on generic Prilosec (omeprazole) and told to take it for a few months.
My reflux symptoms are pretty much gone unless I consume a trigger food, like tomatoes, garlic, coffee, tea, mint, or chocolate. But I do have nausea/queasiness along with a churning stomach for several hours every day. (Feels like I drank about 6 glasses of water.) Mylanta doesn't help, actually not much does. I had it ever since the endoscopy, even before the Prilosec was started. But it's worse now, even though the reflux symptoms are almost gone (other than a belchy feeling in my throat at times).
Have any of you experience this??? The queasiness and gurgling stomach are really tough to deal with. Is this sometimes a part of Gerd or reflux? I'm hoping it will go away in time. Anyone?
STAY AWAY FROM PPI (Pprotonix, prevacid, nexium, etc.), they have nasry side effects, and prevent food from being properly digested. I had the same problem starting peri, and was Rx Prevacid and then Protonix, and both made me constipated, headachy, sgurling stomach, etc. It took me 3 weeks to realize that these are the side effefcts, and then I read that these type of meds, can shut down acid production for good if taken extended period of time. We need acid, and to the contrary, as we age, we make less NOT MORE, so most of the acid reflux comes from incompletely digested food, not "high acidity". Unless they did a pH study on you, there is no way sure way to tell if you have too much acid in your stomach.
I also figured it is hormonal, since declining and fluctuating hormones lhave spastic effect on digestive system, so the LES stays open for longer. Most fo the acid reflux caused by overconsumption of sugary and starchy food, that is easily fermented inside the stomach, produces gas and this keeps LES open longer.
Try to eat less starches and sugars, and smaller portions of food, avoid obvious triggers: coffee (even decaf), alcohol, spicy food, garlic, etc. and take 1/2 tsp of baking soda mixed with mineral water when you have heartburn. Make sure you have regular bowek movements, thisis very important. I eat bran crackers (2-3 a day), that helps a lot, also some ppl use flax seeds and oil. Bottom line, try to avoid PPIs and other acid blockers, they will cause very low acidity, which is also linked to stomach cancer.
I have been dealing with digestive issues for almost 5 years, and it does get better, believe me. I also make and drink kefir and yougurt on daily basis, and this alone helps with digestion tremendously.
HTH,
Be well.
Madge
Nov 28 2006, 10:18 PM
Thanks for all the good advice. I'm hoping that I can gradually taper down the ranitidine until I'm only using it as needed, but I imagine it will take a fairly long time to do this. (Have no idea how long it will take). Now I'm post meno (age 64) so it's possible that I'm not digesting food as well as I used to.
I've had irritable bowel problems since perimenopause. I controlled it by drinking a lot of water, exercising enough, and taking a Fibercon and a Culturelle capsule each night with dinner. Culturelle is a strain of acidophilus (acidophilus GG) which was developed by two doctors at Tufts University. It actually colonizes in the colon. I started taking it when I had a yeast infection in my mouth (side effect of an antibiotic). It was recommended by my doctor, and the yeast infection was gone in three days. I also noticed that my irritable bowel symptoms were greatly reduced, so I kept on taking the Culturelle. I found that it helped greatly, and that I had virtually no IBS-Cc problems. Not, that is, until recently starting the Protonix and Prilosec. Now even the Culturelle and extra fiber aren't enough to really stop the constipation, etc. So, I'll be glad to get off the Prilosec. I don't know whether the ranitidine will affect my touchy colon or not. (Anyone know???)I'm starting with two 150 mg doses a day, but I plan to cut back when I can, and maybe as I need less of it, things will get better. And I hope I can get rid of the nausea. That's really nasty. I'll also try some of your other suggestions. Thank you all so much for the great information. Gives me some hope here.
cathym
Nov 28 2006, 10:53 PM
Hi Madge, Just wanted to let you know I have taken Zantac for years and it really does work, now I take it only as needed. If I am going out to eat and I know I will be eating something I shouldn't ,I take one about a hour before I leave the house.Hope you find some relief soon I how how terrible it is . Cathy
squiggle
Nov 29 2006, 03:20 AM
Madge,
I had bad gastritis 2 years ago and they put me on the PPIs. Even they did not seem to work and i was told to increase the dose. Suddenly I came up in hives and had to stop the PPIs immediately. They put me onto the good old-fahioned ranitidine and it was this that i used until I was better. It took several months, then i dropped down to Gaviscon and then finally now am on nothing. As a precaution if i over indulge I might take some Gaviscon once a month or so. Hope this helps!
Madge
Nov 29 2006, 11:56 AM
QUOTE (squiggle @ Nov 29 2006, 07:20 AM)

Madge,
I had bad gastritis 2 years ago and they put me on the PPIs. Even they did not seem to work and i was told to increase the dose. Suddenly I came up in hives and had to stop the PPIs immediately. They put me onto the good old-fahioned ranitidine and it was this that i used until I was better. It took several months, then i dropped down to Gaviscon and then finally now am on nothing. As a precaution if i over indulge I might take some Gaviscon once a month or so. Hope this helps!
Squiggle and Kathy, thanks very much. Maybe the ranitidine will work for me too. Will I notice a difference or some minimal reflux when I switch from the Prilosec 20 mg. to the ranitidine (I'm starting at 150 mg. twice a day)? I don't want acid rebound.
Am also unsure whether it's too soon to switch to the ranitidine. (Have been on the generic Prilosec for about 10 weeks. All my reflux symptoms aren't totally gone, but most are. I asked the doctor but he didn't really seem to know. So your advice is most helpful.
You are the best! Thanks to all of you for taking the time to help me. This is no fun, is it? I'm nauseated again this AM. Lovely.
Madge
Nov 30 2006, 07:47 PM
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Squiggle and Kathym, How do I know when it's time to taper off ranitidine or Zantac? I'm going to be taking 150 mg. twice a day at first. Then at some point, I'm supposed to taper down top 75 mg. twice a day. Not sure how to do the tapering there. And then down to only as needed. How do I taper off to only as needed? My doctor just says to experiment, but that's not all that helpful.
I was free of all reflux symptoms for a week or so, but the last two days have had acid in my throat (with increased phlegm). Does this mean I should stay on the Prilosec longer, and that I'm not healed yet? I don't want to rush things, but hate being on a PPI.
Or maybe I'll still just get the acidy throat at times, even after a few years. Is that how it is for you two?
I know I'm bombarding you with a lot of questions. Thanks so much for the support and for letting me vent.
Well, I still have a few days wait for my results... and am a total mess. The heartburn and back pain are so bad that I am living on liquids. It is like there is a brick in my chest constantly.
I am so weak that I shake when I go to the bathroom, and I am burning, twitching and stinging all over (very painful).
I am convinced that if I haven't got stomach cancer, then it must be bowel or ovarian cancer pushing my stomach up into my chest.
I feel so ill that I know I will be leaving my hubby and adored cats.
From what I have read here I know that hormones/anxiety can cause the peripheral stuff, but the digestive stuff seems extreme.
Has anyone had the constant 'brick in the chest' plus salty acid in mouth? Does gerd cause constant symptoms?
I'm so sorry for the pity Party folks, but thankful that some of you understand...
Kim
Iradan
Dec 3 2006, 12:23 AM
QUOTE (~K~ @ Dec 2 2006, 09:19 PM)

Well, I still have a few days wait for my results... and am a total mess. The heartburn and back pain are so bad that I am living on liquids. It is like there is a brick in my chest constantly.
I am so weak that I shake when I go to the bathroom, and I am burning, twitching and stinging all over (very painful).
I am convinced that if I haven't got stomach cancer, then it must be bowel or ovarian cancer pushing my stomach up into my chest.
I feel so ill that I know I will be leaving my hubby and adored cats.
From what I have read here I know that hormones/anxiety can cause the peripheral stuff, but the digestive stuff seems extreme.
Has anyone had the constant 'brick in the chest' plus salty acid in mouth? Does gerd cause constant symptoms?
I'm so sorry for the pity Party folks, but thankful that some of you understand...
Kim
K,
I was in the same boat, 4 years ago, and I lost 35 pounds due to begining of peri, and was positive it is either stomach cancer or ovarian cancer. I had such a bad burning in my abdomen that it send me to ER few times, got Xrays, 2 endoscopes, and it did show nothing by mild gastritis. What really pushes your stomach is low estrogen that tends to disrupt normal digestive system motility, so it goes into spasm and cramping, causing acid to relux and hence, the pain. I had feeling that there was a rock stuck in my chest all the time and lump in my throat, was nauseated, no appetite , and anxious. The constant stomach pain triggered anxiety, which in turn triggered even more acidity and pain. I had days (and still do) when I can't bare to touch my abdomen because it is sore and tender, and I also had pain and burning under lower right rib and not, no gall stones in picture. I also had and still have on ocation, bad and bitter taste in my mouth, burning, tinling, and numbness. Frankly, I think per caused enormous on my digestive system.
Believe me, there is nothing wrong with you, but by all means get yourself tested, for peace of mind.
GERD does cause the pain and mimics symptoms of heart attack, I also recall having esophageal spasm, boy, this pain painfull and scary, sent me to ER few times also.
Hang in there, and try to eat something. Empty stomach is not the best way to curb acidity, eating something soothing helps: mashed potatoes, cream of wheat, soup, banana (Vitamin U for ulcer), soft boiled eggs.
HTH
seahorse
Dec 3 2006, 10:04 AM
K
I had the same problems as you also. The burning and pain were extremely painful. Some days I couldn't eat anything at all. I felt as though I was full after eating just a little bit. I was sure at one point I was having a heart attack the chest pain was sooo bad. That was last summer and I finally went to the gastro and had the testing done. I was on medication for almost 5 months straight. The only thing that worked was nexium. I don't think the burning or pain would have gone away without it. My throat was constantly on fire and that is what healed it up. I did have the acidic salty taste too.
I was on the nexium for 3 months and the prilosic for one and now I am off everything for now and doing good. Believe me, I never had a problem before this either and I know peri is the culprit. It is hard to believe but it will get better. I was truly in agony for a long time and it has cleared up. I know it is hard to believe but it will go away and as long as you watch what you eat, it will stay under control. Gerd does cause constant symptoms because I asked the gastro and he said it will as long as there is still inflammation going on.
Kim
RoundRobin
Dec 3 2006, 10:49 AM
k,
I've had the pain, the brick in the chest, and the inability to eat anything. About 4 years ago my doctor hositalized me for 4 days becuase I couldn't eat any solid food. They ran every test under the sun, and the diagnosis was GERD and gastritis. They gave me morphine, that's how bad the pain was. And the salty bitter taste in your mouth, oh boy, you could be describing me on any given day. It used to really freak me out; why was I having this horrible taste in my mouth constantly, and my doctor told me that acid reflux can do that.
I know this is scary, but try to keep positive thoughts in your head about this...anxiety can do UNBELIEVABLE things to your body, including causing physical symptoms that mimic serious diseases. I've had major illnesses that didn't knock me out as badly as some of the anxiety I've faced.
Let us know how you are doing...I"m praying for you and sending as many positive vibes as I can...here's a hug (((((K))))))!!!
Robin
tlily
Dec 3 2006, 08:18 PM
I also have been suffering from acid reflux and have had many test for it including two scopes. I have that lump in throat and horrible burning and taste in my mouth.
They found that I had polops in my stomach and the doctor told me that it is common and it is nothing to worry about. He said that they do not cause anything. I guess that there are some that are the cancerous ones but most and most common are not. He did biopsy and everything was ok.
I still feel anxious, burning even being on nexium and now am suffering from a rash that is giving me much trouble sitting down.
Don't worry about the polops. I have know two other women who have then for years and very big ones. there doctor told them that he would not take them out unless it causes a problem.
Need to go and lie down.
Tlily
Madge
Dec 6 2006, 01:11 AM
Squiggle, when you had to stop the PPIs and go on ranitidine, how did you later get off the ranitidine so you could use Gaviscon? Did you start with the usual 150 mg of ranitidin twice daily, then go to the 75 mg. ranitidine twice daily, and then taper off somehow? Or did you just suddenly stop the ranitidine?
I'm so glad you don't need to take anything all that often anymore. Good for you! Hope it works that way for me too.
~K~
Dec 10 2006, 04:54 PM
Reading your replies has helped to get me through and I can't thank you all enough for taking the time.
As you all promised, the polyps are benign. I have a lot of what they called erosions and my gp is wondering why the double dose prilosec which I took for twelve weeks didn't have more of an effect, but I have been under a lot of extra stress
He is trying me on Ranitidine instead at a high dose.
I am sick of the pain on top of everything else.
Love and thanks to you all...
Kim
Meryl
Dec 10 2006, 05:08 PM
QUOTE (~K~ @ Dec 10 2006, 03:54 PM)

Reading your replies has helped to get me through and I can't thank you all enough for taking the time.
As you all promised, the polyps are benign. I have a lot of what they called erosions and my gp is wondering why the double dose prilosec which I took for twelve weeks didn't have more of an effect, but I have been under a lot of extra stress
He is trying me on Ranitidine instead at a high dose.
I am sick of the pain on top of everything else.
Love and thanks to you all...
Kim
Great news, Kim! I hope the Ranitidine helps and you feel better soon. I know stress has a whole lot to do with it. Whenever I'm upset or stressed, I need to take extra Prevacid. Good luck and let us know how you are doing.
Madge
Dec 14 2006, 06:28 PM
Kim, let us know how the ranitidine works for you. Did you have to taper off the prilosec, or just stop the prilosec and start the ranitidine the next day?
Did you notice a difference or any side effects after making the switch?
Madge
~K~
Dec 14 2006, 09:37 PM
Hi Madge, I was on double dose Prilosec for twelve weeks and it didn't help one bit, just gave me nausea. My GP was surprised that I was still getting acid/heartburn and still showing erosions on the endoscopy test. I had to stop the Prilosec for two weeks prior to scope (not sure why) No change in symptoms.
I have been on Ranitidine for three days...still no change, but at least no nausea and stomach grumbling as when on Prilosec.
I am so hoping that things get better...else more darned tests...
Iradan
Dec 15 2006, 04:08 PM
QUOTE (~K~ @ Dec 14 2006, 09:37 PM)

Hi Madge, I was on double dose Prilosec for twelve weeks and it didn't help one bit, just gave me nausea. My GP was surprised that I was still getting acid/heartburn and still showing erosions on the endoscopy test. I had to stop the Prilosec for two weeks prior to scope (not sure why) No change in symptoms.
I have been on Ranitidine for three days...still no change, but at least no nausea and stomach grumbling as when on Prilosec.
I am so hoping that things get better...else more darned tests...
Ranitdine (Zantac) is much bette toleratable than PPIs. I do take it on ocation, it works very well without nasty side effects. I am glad that you have nothing serious; I've read that GERD and overacidity caused by anxiety and drop in estrogen.
Have you tried licorice supplements, it is known to buit stomach lining, and may help heal erosions and ulcers.
QUOTE
Chewable DGL
DGL is a chewable extract of deglycyrrhizinated licorice (DGL) and the amino acid glycine. It's in chewable form because saliva promotes absorption and ensures optimum value.
Non deglycyrrhizinated licorice can cause high blood pressure, so this ingridient is removed. Licorice is also know as a main adrenal supporting herb.
I have been through the same problems and still survived, and even put on most of the weiht back, LOL.
Hope you feel beter soon!
Hugs,
I.
Normally, we should get stomach acidt bothering, it is always there, with a very low pH. But when we under constant stress (hormonal fluctuations) somehow the stomach lining is thining out and this is when ulcers and erosions develop. I wonder if they also found H-pylori, it is a most common cause of stomach ulcers.
~K~
Dec 18 2006, 03:02 PM
Iradan, I have just bought some DGL. I feel scared because my doctor seemed to think that 12 weeks of Prilosec (taken before I was scoped) should have healed the erosions. He then started to mention my pancreas and at that point I started to sweat (again)
From worrying about stomach cancer I am now sure that it is pancreatic cancer...which explians why I haven't healed
Thankyou all for the attempt to comfort someone with severe health anxiety (not an easy task) but much appreciated.
Snowmoon56
Dec 18 2006, 03:11 PM
Did you get the results back from the endoscopy?
Something going on with my whole digestion system too! I had the egd and a colonscopy last week and feel even worse!
Always had a sensitive stomach but it is severe now!
I'm afriad to eat anything! I go back for result on Dec 29th.
But everytime the phone rings I jump! I know they would call if it was something serious!
~K~
Dec 18 2006, 05:00 PM
Oh Snowmoon...I so know what you mean by being afraid to eat anything. If I can face the food in the first place, after a few nibbles it just sits in my chest... and I used to be such a pig

Curry, cake, pickles... Now it's milk and any slippery bland thing (bread hurts)
Iradan
Dec 18 2006, 09:27 PM
QUOTE (~K~ @ Dec 18 2006, 03:02 PM)

Iradan, I have just bought some DGL. I feel scared because my doctor seemed to think that 12 weeks of Prilosec (taken before I was scoped) should have healed the erosions. He then started to mention my pancreas and at that point I started to sweat (again)
From worrying about stomach cancer I am now sure that it is pancreatic cancer...which explians why I haven't healed
Thankyou all for the attempt to comfort someone with severe health anxiety (not an easy task) but much appreciated.
K,
You won;t believe it, but I thought I had pancreatic cancer too. I was one step close to get abdomincal CT scan and pancreatic scope, when my GP e from these procedures, by Rx Ativan, LOL.
It is also easy to check pancreatic enzymes, and also if pancrease is involved, you would be in so much pain, that it is hard to bear. without narcotics. Pancrease prioduces stubbing pain that makes one double, pain that radiates into lower back, and also will impact your blood sugar.
High stress level alone enough to give you erosions and ulcers, and when you under stress you body defence mechanism is impared, so the erosions won't heal.
There are also
benign pancreatic tumors that produce large amount of gastrin, a hormone that that raises acidity.
Please, do not stress yourself even further with pancrease, just get your pancreatic enzymes levels checked to see if they are normal, and this will put your mind to ease, both pain and errosions are caused by anxiety and stress!!!!!! Been there, done this.
HTH
~K~
Dec 20 2006, 06:27 PM
QUOTE (Iradan @ Dec 18 2006, 08:27 PM)

K,
You won;t believe it, but I thought I had pancreatic cancer too. I was one step close to get abdomincal CT scan and pancreatic scope, when my GP e from these procedures, by Rx Ativan, LOL.
It is also easy to check pancreatic enzymes, and also if pancrease is involved, you would be in so much pain, that it is hard to bear. without narcotics. Pancrease prioduces stubbing pain that makes one double, pain that radiates into lower back, and also will impact your blood sugar.
High stress level alone enough to give you erosions and ulcers, and when you under stress you body defence mechanism is impared, so the erosions won't heal.
There are also benign pancreatic tumors that produce large amount of gastrin, a hormone that that raises acidity.
Please, do not stress yourself even further with pancrease, just get your pancreatic enzymes levels checked to see if they are normal, and this will put your mind to ease, both pain and errosions are caused by anxiety and stress!!!!!! Been there, done this.
HTH
Thankyou so much for this. I am almost in tears tonight from the heartburn it goes right throught o my back and I truly haven't had one moment free from it in five months. I just want the meds to work, but I'm so full of anxiety...chasing my own tail
Iradan
Dec 21 2006, 07:10 PM
QUOTE (~K~ @ Dec 20 2006, 06:27 PM)

Thankyou so much for this. I am almost in tears tonight from the heartburn it goes right throught o my back and I truly haven't had one moment free from it in five months. I just want the meds to work, but I'm so full of anxiety...chasing my own tail

I had feeling that my upper back is on fire, fire was straight through, but it was upper back, not lower. I also had really bad burning in the abdomen and alongside of my lower ribs, so bad that they had to put me on morphin drip in ER. It is all anxiety, all this adrenalin pumping and stress, you will be in pain until you take anxiety under control. I would try tranqualizers to control stress rather than reducing stomach acid, which is needed for digestion. it helps to relax and eases the anxiety and stops you from losing your mind, you will see your stomach lining will heal. High stress triggers acidity, so try some benzos, Xanax was a life saver for me.
QUOTE (~K~ @ Dec 18 2006, 05:00 PM)

Oh Snowmoon...I so know what you mean by being afraid to eat anything. If I can face the food in the first place, after a few nibbles it just sits in my chest... and I used to be such a pig

Curry, cake, pickles... Now it's milk and any slippery bland thing (bread hurts)

Oh, men, this is exactly how I felt. One time went out with DH to a fancy place just to sit and watch him eat, i could not get any food down, it was like a brick sitting in my chest and frightening to escape, LOL.
Milk BTW is not the best if you have acidity, it causes gas and bloating, plain yougurt is better. Cream of rice (slowly cooked rice in plenty of water intil creamy) is great for aching stomach. overall, it is a trial and error, what you can and can't eat. But dairy in general is not the best if you have erosions.
Madge
Dec 23 2006, 06:29 PM
Cathy, when you took Zantac regularly, did you take it before meals? I asked two pharmacists. The first one said just take two doses, twelve hours apart, regardless of when you eat. The other pharmacist said to take doses about 15 minutes before breakfast and supper. I'm confused.
Carol
QUOTE (cathym @ Nov 29 2006, 02:53 AM)

Hi Madge, Just wanted to let you know I have taken Zantac for years and it really does work, now I take it only as needed. If I am going out to eat and I know I will be eating something I shouldn't ,I take one about a hour before I leave the house.Hope you find some relief soon I how how terrible it is . Cathy
123
Dec 26 2006, 01:34 PM
Kim, the doctor probably said he couldn't remove the polyps through the scope because you refused to accept sedation for the procedure. If you were under anesthesia, they could be removed through the scope. Google "polyps stomach prevacid" and you can find articles on how proton pump inhibitors cause polyps if taken too long. I took Prevacid for 2 months due to gastritis from taking too much NSAIDS and I was cured since I didn't have h pylori. No way would I ever have a gastroscope without sedation! Are you by any chance taking aspirin or NSAIDS? If so, that would explain the gastritis.
For GERD, there is a new OTC remedy sold by Life Extension called EsophaGuard. It has d-limonene. I have not used it, so I can't vouch for its effectiveness, but you are to take 1 every other day for 20 days for long-term (months) relief. You might want to go to the **** website to do a search on the product and see if you think it is worth buying. The article explaining why the product works even for h pylori was in the Sept. 2006 issue.
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Madge
Dec 27 2006, 02:30 PM
Kim, please let us know if the Ranitidine works for you. I'm supposed to switch from Prilosec to ranitidine (150 mg, 2x a day) in a few months, and am hoping it will work. Prilosec is working fairly well, but I just don't want to be on it for a long time. I have some constipation problems from Prilosec, so would like to get off it and use ranitidine. I'd like to know if it works for you.
Madge
~K~
Jan 12 2007, 09:00 PM
Hi everyone, I have been without a pc for a few weeks because the one I had was borrowed, but I now have my own
I saw the gastro man yesterday and bleated about being in constant pain despite double dose prilosec and triple dose ranitidine, which despite my hopes still did nothing! I hurt so much that liguids feel lumpy when I swallow them and solids feel like rocks...he has put me on nexium and I am to have an acid probe test (sounds not nice

)
I am still scared that they missed cancer, apparently I had erosions in the stomach rather than full ulcers, but that was after weeks of omeprazole so they might have been ulcers to start off with.
Meryl...my polyps were indeed fundic and could have been caused by the ppi, as you said.
tlily... I have since found some of your old posts and saw that you shared my fears, since you didn't respond to double dose ppi medicines.
I had no digestive trouble ever ...up comes 50th birthday...then
Thanks and hugs to you all
Hi everyone, I have been without a pc for a few weeks because the one I had was borrowed, but I now have my own
I saw the gastro man yesterday and bleated about being in constant pain despite double dose prilosec and triple dose ranitidine, which despite my hopes still did nothing! I hurt so much that liguids feel lumpy when I swallow them and solids feel like rocks...he has put me on nexium and I am to have an acid probe test (sounds not nice

)
I am still scared that they missed cancer, apparently I had erosions in the stomach rather than full ulcers, but that was after weeks of omeprazole so they might have been ulcers to start off with.
Meryl...my polyps were indeed fundic and could have been caused by the ppi, as you said.
tlily... I have since found some of your old posts and saw that you shared my fears, since you didn't respond to double dose ppi medicines.
I had no digestive trouble ever ...up comes 50th birthday...then
Thanks and hugs to you all
Kim
OOps! thought I had lost my post and it was sent twice...sorry.
This new pc has the habit of sending stuff even if I just hover over the send message box...I always had to click the mouse on the other puter...not keen on this function but must try to switch it off if possible...
~K~
Jan 18 2007, 09:58 PM
I am still so scared that no meds are working. Can the symptoms of gerd be CONSTANT? I have no let up from the feeling of rocks in my esophagus. NHS won't provide a second scope. Last scope showed stomach erosions but nothing in food pipe...I don't understand this constant misery
Thanks for putting up with me (Madge where are you? Are your throat symptoms better?)
Meryl
Jan 18 2007, 10:31 PM
Hi. When my stomach gets very bad (usually from anxiety), and my Prevacid doesn't work, I take a Reglen (sp?) which makes the food pass more quickly through my stomach, and after a few days or so, I'm fine. You might want to talk to your doctor about that.
Hope you get better soon.
M.
Oops! I saw that I wrote that before! Sorry for the repetition!
123
Jan 20 2007, 10:06 AM
Kim, have you had an ultrasound to check for gallstones? When I had gallstones, I had pain which felt like it was coming from my stomach and a lot of reflux. I also had some referred pain in my upper back. After my gallbaldder was removed, the pain in my stomach and the reflux stopped. A lot of time pain is referred to one place when it is actually coming from another place..
Madge
Jan 24 2007, 07:43 PM
Hi, Kim...
I'm still around. Some of the time I'm rid of the lump-in-the-throat feeling, and at other times it's back. And some days I have chest fullness and aching in the center of chest and back. Some days I have aching above my left or right breast too. Guess it's all part of reflux. I still can't take more than one Prilosec a day. If I double up (another Prilosec in the evening) the havoc it creates with my irritable bowel problem causes more discomfort than the reflux does (cramping, bloating, gas, constipation, hemorrhoids). My doctor says to try cherry flavored (not mint) Mylanta and see if that helps. Not sure it will.
I was going to switch to ranitidine this week, but had reflux pretty bad yesterday, so I'm afraid to switch from Prilosec to ranitidine until I feel a little better. I guess the fact that the ranitidine is less strong than prilosec is what's keeping me from making the switch. Maybe that's silly...I just don't know.
I hope you're doing okay. Have been wondering how you are.
Madge