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slowbear
I seem to have all kinds of weird symtpoms.

very dry morning mouth (lips stick to teeth)

sagging eyelid (only one)

dry finger tips with ridges (like I came from swimming for 3 hours)

Gums that suddenly ache (then goes away)

dry ears and ears that suddenly itch around the edges (scratching does not help)

Heart that beats furiously (sometimes) after mild exertion


Well, all for now....do you have some?
slowbear
oh, i forgot to add the weird smokey taste, smell (?)...well somewhere around there, that I get.....
Kathy46
I am being treated for iron deficiency anemia because I bled for 22 days straight.

I get very winded and a very rapid heart rate with very light exertion. I am not overweight at all and my bp is very good.

Healthy as a horse until all this stuff started happening.

I have a fibroid...he tried to treat my symptoms with bc pills but i about went nuts the first night...i had to take 3 all at once.

never again..i was bouncing off the walls.

stopped taking them..i take no meds ....he may just remove my uterus....but my friend is telling me that's bad and not to let him do it...but i'm tired of messing with all of this.
MyFaith
This is a good topic...here are mine:

1. Pain radiating from my lower back half way up my back, sort of
like a wave that comes on goes. This has only occurred once.
2. Weird swallowing thing...it's as if some times I have to think
about swallowing.
3. Shortness of breath that somes out of nowhere then disappears

I'm sure after I click "Add Reply" I'll think of several others, lol smile.gif.
mydarling
blink.gif

Hi girls,

well I certainly know about the shortness of breath THIS MONTH! I posted that on the forum under "WENT TO THE ER", i HAD TO, it was that bad. They gave me xanax, and it really helped. Yeah, he told me it was hormones, and stress. So, yeah, the non-breathing thing is scray and DOES come out of nowhere. unsure.gif
Montana1
QUOTE (slowbear @ Sep 24 2006, 05:40 AM) *
oh, i forgot to add the weird smokey taste, smell (?)...well somewhere around there, that I get.....


Hello there!
Ok. I think I can go on and on aside from having close to the 34 in the list my body has managed to come up with a few:

Dry cough during the day and night (some phlegm at times)
Heavy feeling in rectum
Shortness of breath
burping
Feeling of not wanting to be touched (not fun for my Husband)

I too will think of more and post them.

Montana
MyFaith
Add pains in my right and left heel that will wake me up during the night. This is not a constant thing...it does come and go, and I've not noticed any real pattern. A doctor years go told me this was plantar Fasciitis, but I've not seen this on the list of 34 peri/meno symptoms.

Thank God that it's not constant. smile.gif
Onika
QUOTE (slowbear @ Sep 24 2006, 07:15 AM) *
I seem to have all kinds of weird symtpoms.

very dry morning mouth (lips stick to teeth)

sagging eyelid (only one)

dry finger tips with ridges (like I came from swimming for 3 hours)

Gums that suddenly ache (then goes away)

dry ears and ears that suddenly itch around the edges (scratching does not help)

Heart that beats furiously (sometimes) after mild exertion
Well, all for now....do you have some?

wrinkled finger tips!!!!!! It scared me to death!!!!
geneva26
QUOTE (slowbear @ Sep 24 2006, 04:15 AM) *
dry finger tips with ridges (like I came from swimming for 3 hours)


Glad to see this one! I suddenly noticed this one day and it is so strange! What on earth is making our finger tips wrinkled? blink.gif
Duch
I've got that finger tip thing too. huh.gif

I put on a few pounds, then lost them plus a couple. Its like weight came off (hands, arms, calves) in places I didn't put it on (midriff, and oh so sadly, bottom). The lessening of fat in the finger tips makes the nerves seem more sensative. There are more nerves in the lips and fingertips than anywhere else.

And this muscles tension in my neck, back shoulders and face.... sigh.

Expensive chocolate tastes stale, unsure.gif dry mouth - but those two might be from the zyban... who knows. I'm so confused. Oh yeah, Confusion... laugh.gif
Tay
Oh dear...where do I begin...(chuckle)

Let's see...odd symptoms...wellllll...

Grinding teeth
Sweaty palms
And my latest...I now find certain odors offensive. Onions, garlic - things that never used to both me before make my stomach churn now. Have no explanation why...but lets just say, when an onion is peeled, the remains heads straight outside to the garbage can...

Oh yeah...blurry eyes, chapped lips, lot'sa belching and gas

My God what a sex symbol I've become....!!! sad.gif
bumfuzzled
QUOTE
I seem to have all kinds of weird symtpoms.

very dry morning mouth (lips stick to teeth)

sagging eyelid (only one)

dry finger tips with ridges (like I came from swimming for 3 hours)

Gums that suddenly ache (then goes away)

dry ears and ears that suddenly itch around the edges (scratching does not help)

Heart that beats furiously (sometimes) after mild exertion


Well, all for now....do you have some?


slowbear, are you still having these symptoms?
I have exactly the same thing! My dry mouth has
gotten so bad I've had to resort to using special toothpaste
and mouthwash just for dry mouth. Also, I'm having to
sleep with a humidifier.

I've been suspecting Sjogren's Syndrome but so far my
tests are negative. It's making me miserable. If I don't stay
right on top of keeping my mouth moist, I get really sore
gums and a terribly sore tongue.

The sagging eyelid, the wrinkled fingers, (the heart thing I've
had for years). My ears don't itch, but they suddenly stopped
making ear wax. What's that all about?

bumfuzzled
joliejacq
One of the worst symptoms I had in the early days of peri, that NO ONE seemed to talk about on Power-Surge, was a racing head that would not stop. It was driving me absolutely mad.

Bits of songs, curse words, strange interjections of phrases (like "license plate" blink.gif ), just all this CRAP running through it day and night, a hundred miles an hour. I could awaken in the morning, and my head had already taken off!

Very upsetting, and I had to learn to be patient and ignore it. It eventually stopped, Glory Hallelujah! Some time later, I found an OLD post by someone here about it, and was so relieved, that I copied it to my desktop, so it would be easy to find and re-read. cool.gif

What a crazy time!

JJ
slowbear
Yes, bumfuzzled, I still have the symptoms off and on...today is burning tongue, fuzzy, fuzzy, fuzzy, fuzzy, head sore heels and when I turn my head my neck is all creaky like.......needs oil.....Joan
Amanda M
Hello,

Mine are

not being able to get a deep breath
not being able to swallow at odd times
weedy old finger nails
itchy ears

first two are obvoiusly the worse as they scare me, the other two are just very annoying!

Amanda blink.gif
Jen1961
I also get the tounge tingling and burning thing along with the fingers aching and toes get burning sensation and pain that just goes away. dry.gif

QUOTE (Jen1961 @ Jan 19 2007, 08:03 AM) *
I also get the tounge tingling and burning thing along with the fingers aching and toes get burning sensation and pain that just goes away. dry.gif


I forgot to add my sensitivity to sound. Noise drives me crazy! My family keeps telling me to turn up the volume on the TV and I want it as low as possible. Anyone else have this?
joliejacq
Yes, I have the sound sensitivity, too. Why do advertisements in particular have to be so bl**dy LOUD???? I feel like I'm always sitting there with the remote, turning the volume up, turning it down...

JJ
janeyxxx
I know exactly what you mean, I am always turning the volume up- and down, noise drives me crazy. We have builders in at the moment and they have a radio playing all day. It's not really that loud but it is sending me round the bend, I can't wait until they go.

The other wierd thing is intense itching on the soles of my feet. It gets so bad when my feet are warm especially in bed and the only way to stop it is to put them in cold water which isn't really what you want in the middle of the night!
Webalina
The only symptom I've had that's not on the official list is hypochondria. It's been so bad that I've actually started a new topic about it in the "Losing my mind" section. But to recap -- every little ache, pain, skin spot, twitch, cramp or spasm turns into a symptom of some horrible dreaded disease.

Last week I found a bruise on my hand that I couldn't recall how I'd gotten. Instead of going "Looks like I banged myself up again" -- a usual occurrence for my klutzy self, trust me -- my brain decided it was a blood clot that will eventually cause a stroke. Yesterday I found a scab on my shoulder -- likely just a zit, as I've had acne problems all my life. But my brain keeps telling me it's a skin cancer. And of course, everytime something like this happens, I have a panic attack. The whole thing is so weird. Even normal stuff -- intestinal gas, hunger pangs, eyelid twitches -- things I've had my whole life, don't feel right anymore. My mind doesn't recognize them as normal part of everyday life, but rather as threats to my health and well-being. Now that I think of it, I guess indirectly this is on the list in that it's part of anxiety.
Amanda M
QUOTE (Webalina @ Jan 19 2007, 05:58 PM) *
The only symptom I've had that's not on the official list is hypochondria. It's been so bad that I've actually started a new topic about it in the "Losing my mind" section. But to recap -- every little ache, pain, skin spot, twitch, cramp or spasm turns into a symptom of some horrible dreaded disease.

Last week I found a bruise on my hand that I couldn't recall how I'd gotten. Instead of going "Looks like I banged myself up again" -- a usual occurrence for my klutzy self, trust me -- my brain decided it was a blood clot that will eventually cause a stroke. Yesterday I found a scab on my shoulder -- likely just a zit, as I've had acne problems all my life. But my brain keeps telling me it's a skin cancer. And of course, everytime something like this happens, I have a panic attack. The whole thing is so weird. Even normal stuff -- intestinal gas, hunger pangs, eyelid twitches -- things I've had my whole life, don't feel right anymore. My mind doesn't recognize them as normal part of everyday life, but rather as threats to my health and well-being. Now that I think of it, I guess indirectly this is on the list in that it's part of anxiety.


I am with you on this one - your rational side tries to keep it under control but it just goes potty at times doesn't it!!

Amanda
Clarissa
Just looking at this thread and saw Montana 1, back in Septmeber said she had a heavy felling in the rectum , I have got a really strange feeling there as thought soemthing is stuck there, is this a Peri and also the top of my bottom feels painful, I think it may be the tail bone. anyone else got these things.
sberz69
I posted about one of my many strange symptoms sometime ago. Hard to explain but here goes. Do you know how it feels when say your hands or feet are REALLY cold and you stick them into fairly hot water? I get that feeling often in my legs below my knees. Sometimes its a precursor to a major hot flash. Sometimes I think I'm a walking medical mystery.------------Shelley
faithcain
Hi, Really bad couple of days with wierd symptoms. Feel like I have a lump in my throat or like my throat is swelling, constant ringing in my ears and head. Dizziness, but also just a strange feeling in my head, kind of buzzy and numb, really spaced out but all at once. It honestly feels like I'm just not going to make it another day. Yesterday I went into a complete panic attack over all these feelings even though I've had them before and pulled through. Today I'm really trying hard to ignore them, but it's so hard and scary. I saw in an earlier post about a smoky smell. I have that too. It's the strangest thing. I have many more, but have my grandaughter in my other arm and eyping with one arm is tiring, smile.gif Praying for all of us!! God Bless!

oops, I meant typing. rolleyes.gif
Montana1
QUOTE (faithcain @ Jan 19 2007, 06:29 PM) *
Hi, Really bad couple of days with wierd symptoms. Feel like I have a lump in my throat or like my throat is swelling, constant ringing in my ears and head. Dizziness, but also just a strange feeling in my head, kind of buzzy and numb, really spaced out but all at once. It honestly feels like I'm just not going to make it another day. Yesterday I went into a complete panic attack over all these feelings even though I've had them before and pulled through. Today I'm really trying hard to ignore them, but it's so hard and scary. I saw in an earlier post about a smoky smell. I have that too. It's the strangest thing. I have many more, but have my grandaughter in my other arm and eyping with one arm is tiring, smile.gif Praying for all of us!! God Bless!

oops, I meant typing. rolleyes.gif

Faithcain,
I also have the strange feeling in my throat. It feels like it is closing up. I also have dealt with the dizziness and constant ringing in my ears. I have dealt with this for a couple of years. Most likely the first symptoms of peri. I notice the ringing starting to change pitch getting closer to period time. It has gotten to the point that I am used to this noise. Take Care, Montana

QUOTE (Clarissa @ Jan 19 2007, 11:12 AM) *
Just looking at this thread and saw Montana 1, back in Septmeber said she had a heavy felling in the rectum , I have got a really strange feeling there as thought soemthing is stuck there, is this a Peri and also the top of my bottom feels painful, I think it may be the tail bone. anyone else got these things.

Clarissa,
I hope you found that other topic about the rectum discomfort. I forgot to suggest to write down when it gets worse. I found that just before my period it started getting very bothersome. That was my first clue that it was all hormonal. Along with several articles where I read and they clearly marked it as another sign of peri. good luck! Montana
kassie
QUOTE (faithcain @ Jan 19 2007, 10:29 PM) *
Hi, Really bad couple of days with wierd symptoms. Feel like I have a lump in my throat or like my throat is swelling, constant ringing in my ears and head. Dizziness, but also just a strange feeling in my head, kind of buzzy and numb, really spaced out but all at once. It honestly feels like I'm just not going to make it another day. Yesterday I went into a complete panic attack over all these feelings even though I've had them before and pulled through. Today I'm really trying hard to ignore them, but it's so hard and scary. I saw in an earlier post about a smoky smell. I have that too. It's the strangest thing. I have many more, but have my grandaughter in my other arm and eyping with one arm is tiring, smile.gif Praying for all of us!! God Bless!

oops, I meant typing. rolleyes.gif









I have these symptoms except I haven't noticed the smokey smell thing. I have many more symptoms and it feels like I am getting swallowed up by them!!! I am sitting here feeling like I will die soon. It feels like it is over. I don't know how much more I can bare. Do the rest of you really feel this bad? I can't believe I feel this way. Sorry, just had to vent a little. wacko.gif
Tay
Hey Now Kas...it's gonna be fine! I know you're scared, and feel like you've lost control, but you haven't. Kas, I don't know how far into peri you are, but I'll try to explain what's happening to you so you're aren't afraid anymore.

Kas, as you probably already know, we have 2 major hormones, estrogen and progesterone. Est is the one that causes all the odd things we feel before our periods. The irritability, the mood swings etc. Then we get our period, and a few days later...we wake up one morning and feel like our oldselves again. What happened? Our progesterone kicked in - which is the calming hormone.

Ok, in menopause, a strange thing happens. Our estrogen only drops to a certain level for our periods to stop. (between a 40 and 60% drop). However, our progest completely disappears...and I mean completely. Now imagine this...our bodies feel and know we still have estrogen, so it sends out signals telling our ovaries it's time to have a period. Well, sometimes we do, sometimes we don't...but this is where the difficulties start. By now, our progest is all but gone, so simply put, the estrogen switched on all of our nerve endings and there's no progest to switch it off...needless to say, what happens is our nerve endings remain in high alert and we feel awful. It's what is commonly called "Estrogen Dominance"...

What helps? Progesterone cream - you can buy it in most health food stores, as well as wal-mart (vitamin aisle). I use it twice a day (morning and right before bed). You can also try magnesium I take 500 mg a day (but work up to that), and I also take Vitamin B6. Both of the above are considered calming agents... Of course, because one is a vitamin and the other a mineral, those do take time to become effective. You'll probably only notice a difference after a month or so, but the progest cream works quicker...I started using mine on Jan 1st and am already sleeping better.

Anyway Kas, I hope I've helped because I know how scary this is...

((HUGS))
Joyful Heart
I'll jump in here....

I've had some anxiety off and on for the past 3 years. NEVER had this before in my life, so it was out of the blue for this girl! Only happened in the winter, but also coincided with health issues for my mother who was far away and I admit, I did worry. They moved close by and didn't have ANY problems last winter. This winter, it's come back, but I recognize it as being hormone related so I'm not getting myself in a panic over it.

I can relate to the tightness in the bottom area. Mine starts from the lower back, radiates down across (and deep into) the right side of my rear, makes EVERYTHING down there feel tight (including the muscles around and inside the vaginal/perianal area) and often feels like I'm sitting on something between the seat and my tailbone. This discomfort will sometimes continue to radiate down the back of my leg and even into my heel if it's really bad. The strange thing about this is it's there when I wake up! Sometimes when I wake at my normal 3:14 AM, I'm relaxed, but within minutes I can feel it building and I have to do a pelvic tilt to stretch those muscles out in order to even think about relaxing enough to get back to sleep! It's so annoying! I've had test after test and I KNOW it's muscle tension that I'm just not able to control. I'm not worried about ANYTHING, yet I wake and the muscles in my back, etc. feel like I've been hit by a truck! If I take an occasional anti-anxiety med that the Dr. gave me, all these symptoms go away, so I'm confident it's tension. NOW>....to find a way to get rid of that and I would feel MUCH better!

Currently, I take Magnesium, Evening Primrose Oil, Vit. E, Progesterone cream and a B Complex daily. No meds except the occasional Nerivam? for anxiety (ie: muscle tension). I've recently lost 35 lbs. that I've needed to loose and have added excercise to my routine. This has helped a bit, but not as much as I had hoped!

LMP was Sept. 4th, but I think I ovulated this past week, which will make me cycle again on the 30th of Jan. GREAT! Get to start all over in counting again!

What a GREAT thread!

~Cheryl
kassie
QUOTE (Tay @ Jan 20 2007, 12:18 PM) *
Hey Now Kas...it's gonna be fine! I know you're scared, and feel like you've lost control, but you haven't. Kas, I don't know how far into peri you are, but I'll try to explain what's happening to you so you're aren't afraid anymore.

Kas, as you probably already know, we have 2 major hormones, estrogen and progesterone. Est is the one that causes all the odd things we feel before our periods. The irritability, the mood swings etc. Then we get our period, and a few days later...we wake up one morning and feel like our oldselves again. What happened? Our progesterone kicked in - which is the calming hormone.

Ok, in menopause, a strange thing happens. Our estrogen only drops to a certain level for our periods to stop. (between a 40 and 60% drop). However, our progest completely disappears...and I mean completely. Now imagine this...our bodies feel and know we still have estrogen, so it sends out signals telling our ovaries it's time to have a period. Well, sometimes we do, sometimes we don't...but this is where the difficulties start. By now, our progest is all but gone, so simply put, the estrogen switched on all of our nerve endings and there's no progest to switch it off...needless to say, what happens is our nerve endings remain in high alert and we feel awful. It's what is commonly called "Estrogen Dominance"...

What helps? Progesterone cream - you can buy it in most health food stores, as well as wal-mart (vitamin aisle). I use it twice a day (morning and right before bed). You can also try magnesium I take 500 mg a day (but work up to that), and I also take Vitamin B6. Both of the above are considered calming agents... Of course, because one is a vitamin and the other a mineral, those do take time to become effective. You'll probably only notice a difference after a month or so, but the progest cream works quicker...I started using mine on Jan 1st and am already sleeping better.

Anyway Kas, I hope I've helped because I know how scary this is...

((HUGS))



Thanks, Tay. I just wish I could convince myself that it is going to be fine, but right now I just can't. And yes, I am scared. Big time scared! I have been missing periods for prob. about 2 yrs now. I have skipped 2 and 3 months. This has been the longest. The last one was Sept. 14, I think. I have had two children. I have a 27 yr. old son and a 12 yr. old daughter. Both times I became a nervous wreck afterwards. I feel somewhat the same way now. I can't believe all of this. I feel crazy right now and at deaths door. I prob. sound like a big baby but I can't help it. I also have a medicine phobia. I am afraid to take the Xanax that was prescribed. And I actually do have the progesterone cream. It has been sitting here for months. I bought it after a friend suggested it to me, but I have been afraid to try it. Right now I am having respiratory problems. At the top of my chest I am having a tickling sensation and feel like there is something in there that I need to cough up so I am coughing a lot. My chest hurts and I can't breathe too good. I have had this for quite a while and it seems to be getting worse. I am on an antibiotic. This is scaring me a lot. Does anyone else have this problem???? I hope someone can relate to this. That would help me if I know I am not the only one. I also seem to be having a big problem with sinuses and allergies. I never had any problems like these before. I also have anxiety, depression, trouble breathing, hot flashes, trouble sleeping (some of that due to severe night sweats), severe ringing in my ears, ache all over, feel like I am on a period all the time, feel confused all the time, twitching, numbness, etc., etc. The list goes on and on.

Thank you for your helpful information and your reassurance. It helps to be reassured that I will be okay (even if I have trouble believing it). It just feels like fear is overtaking me. And thanks for the hug!!!
Tay
Kas - I know you're scared - we've all been scared, which is why we know how you're feeling....but trust me, all those crazy things you're feeling is related to anxiety! I used to have a file on my hardrive that went indepth as to what anxiety does to all parts of our body, and believe it...it creates havoc on everything. From the brain to the gut to the heart right down to our feet... and, as I'm sure you know, everything you wrote IS related to anxiety. I know it's hard to deal with it - I'm like many on here when it comes to this 'issue'. Never knew an axious day in my life until peri came along and now I can't remember not feeling anxious. (it's the pits, isn't it?)

But Kas...don't you see your body is crying out for help? It's feeling overwhelmed by all the changes and it needs you to do something to make it feel better. You have Xanax and you have progest. cream...use it. The better your body feels, the more peace of mind you'll have, and that will make you feel more in control. Right now you're in a vicious cycle...the anxiety is over-running everything and in turn that's causing you feel worse and more afraid. To break the cycle you need to reduce the anxiety and give your body some peace....so don't be afraid to use whatever weapon you have at your disposal. Kas, this is all out war - you against your hormones...you can't surrender...

As for the sinus/allergy stuff, again it's related to peri. Many of us have found that things like allergies, sinus infections etc. are difficult to treat during peri. I, myself, have suffered IBS since I was in my mid 20's. I controlled it with a strict diet and reduced stress. I was 'flare-up' free for 4 years, until it was hormonally induced by peri. The meds I used before, don't work now...why? because the IBS flare up wasn't caused by foods...it came back because of fluxing hormones in my gut...that's what triggered it. It really is no surprise you're having difficulty treating the respitory problems...but it's common...ok?

Kas, believe me...the more you relax, the better you'll feel so believe in your doctor and believe in yourself. I promise you...if you take the meds when needed, and start using the cream, in a months time you'll probably be feeling a lot better...but you gotta take the first step...ok??
Clarissa
Montana, i did find the threads thanks and I will watch when it gets worse or comes and goes.
JOYFULL HEART, You describe it perfectly, I now know i am not alone in this wierd feeling
Thank you both
Tay
Ok Kas...for your peace of mind, I went and located the website that listed an in-depth list of what anxiety does to your mind and body. Now...read through everything that's listed below ...

-----------------------------------------------------

The main categories of physical anxiety symptoms are as follows:

(flight and flight responses)

HEART SYMPTOMS
racing or rapid heart beat
heart palpitations
'missed' heart beats
pounding heart

BREATHING SYMPTOMS

breathing difficulties (can be a result of swallowing air, chest pain through tension or hyperventilation)
choking sensation
hyperventilation
feel as if can't take another breath (can be a result of swallowing air, chest pain through tension or hyperventilation)
tightening of the throat

PAIN SYMPTOMS

chest pain
headaches
neck aches
lower back pain
sciatica
muscle pain
aching jaw
clenching fists
chronic temporary pain

STOMACH / ABDOMINAL SYMPTOMS

nausea
loss of appetite
churning stomach
burning stomach
indigestion
abdominal pain
digestive problems

ASSOCIATED ANXIETY SYMPTOMS

hot and cold flashes
flushing face
shaking/ trembling
excessive perspiration
sweating hands
dizziness
giddiness
feeling lightheaded or faint
pins and needles
diarrhoea
loss of bladder control
grinding teeth
sleeping difficulties (can be a result of overactive thinking, worry, nocturnal panic attacks or taking sleeping medication (wake after a few hours and then can't get back to sleep)
night sweats
lack of concentration
extreme exhaustion
loss of feelings
localised pressure
loss of libido
appetite swings
numbness of hands or feet
unexplainable rashes

DISSOCIATIVE SYMPTOMS

such as feeling -

detached from the body
feeling as if you and/or surroundings are not real
as if looking through a white or grey mist
sensitivity to light and sound
tunnel vision
stationary objects appearing to move
sensations of falling into a void
temporary paralysis

MAJOR FEARS

Having a heart attack and/or
Going to die
Brain tumour
Going insane
Lose control in some way

EMOTIONAL SYMPTOMS

episodes of anger and "rage" and frustration
deep sadness
depression and major depression
increased feelings of worry
increased feelings of guilt
feelings of emptiness
feelings of loneliness
feeling detached from "normal" emotional state

--------------------------------------------

Now...how many of what's listed above, are the very things you're feeling? See...just about everything you mentioned is related to anxiety -

Kas, I know it's difficult to see the forest for the trees...in otherwords, what WE see is the symptoms and not the cause...so now that you know the majority of your problems are a result from anxiety...trust in the meds and the cream...ok!

(And don't worry lil sis...we're here!) (((HUGS))) rolleyes.gif
joliejacq
QUOTE (kassie @ Jan 21 2007, 12:42 AM) *
I also have anxiety, depression, trouble breathing, hot flashes, trouble sleeping (some of that due to severe night sweats), severe ringing in my ears, ache all over, feel like I am on a period all the time, feel confused all the time, twitching, numbness, etc., etc.



Kassie, I have had ALL of these, and the utter hell is when they are all present AT THE SAME TIME. ohmy.gif

You are sooooo not alone! And it DOES get better. Although I'm not 100%, I am in WAY better shape than I was a couple years ago.

Hang in there, Babe!

JJ

Tay, I've had everything on YOUR list all at once, too, I swear! happy.gif

WHAT A RIDE. I like to believe God has some special plan for those of us who have suffered so.

JJ
faithcain
QUOTE (kassie @ Jan 21 2007, 12:42 AM) *
Thanks, Tay. I just wish I could convince myself that it is going to be fine, but right now I just can't. And yes, I am scared. Big time scared! I have been missing periods for prob. about 2 yrs now. I have skipped 2 and 3 months. This has been the longest. The last one was Sept. 14, I think. I have had two children. I have a 27 yr. old son and a 12 yr. old daughter. Both times I became a nervous wreck afterwards. I feel somewhat the same way now. I can't believe all of this. I feel crazy right now and at deaths door. I prob. sound like a big baby but I can't help it. I also have a medicine phobia. I am afraid to take the Xanax that was prescribed. And I actually do have the progesterone cream. It has been sitting here for months. I bought it after a friend suggested it to me, but I have been afraid to try it. Right now I am having respiratory problems. At the top of my chest I am having a tickling sensation and feel like there is something in there that I need to cough up so I am coughing a lot. My chest hurts and I can't breathe too good. I have had this for quite a while and it seems to be getting worse. I am on an antibiotic. This is scaring me a lot. Does anyone else have this problem???? I hope someone can relate to this. That would help me if I know I am not the only one. I also seem to be having a big problem with sinuses and allergies. I never had any problems like these before. I also have anxiety, depression, trouble breathing, hot flashes, trouble sleeping (some of that due to severe night sweats), severe ringing in my ears, ache all over, feel like I am on a period all the time, feel confused all the time, twitching, numbness, etc., etc. The list goes on and on.

Thank you for your helpful information and your reassurance. It helps to be reassured that I will be okay (even if I have trouble believing it). It just feels like fear is overtaking me. And thanks for the hug!!!


Hi Kassie,
I totally relate to the "uncontollable" fear. I also feel like I am dieing. I spend pretty much every day afraid. There are times (rare now) that I can distract myself away from the fear, but I just don't understand how we can really feel this bad and it be nothing more than peri. It baffles me, and actually really makes me mad. I go through times that I am just so angry about all of these awful symptoms that have taken away my life. I have to force myself to be as "normal" as I can, but never feel normal. I use to have that detached, unreal, spacy feeling only sometimes, but now it is with me almost every day. I just started a new job on Friday (had no choice, finances are out of control), and am wondering if I'll be able to get through it all. I don't know how I'll function at a job when I don't feel functionable at all. I have spent this whole day crying off and on. I feel so awful. I'm at the end of my period. My head is in a constant fog, sinuses stuffy, dizzy, skipping heart, wierd feelings in my head, off balance, blood sugar up and down and all over the place, tired, and very depressed. I do have an extreme amount of stress in my life between my husband, and two of my 3 kids, but feel that all of these symptoms is more than that, and wonder if they're more than peri sometimes because it's just soooooo bad!! I just keep reading these posts, and try to just get through. I also am not a fan of meds, but I do take a xanax occasionally when I'm so bad that I'm ready to run to the hospital (which I've done on many occasions). The xanax really does help to calm me down. I tried the Climara estrogen patch for 4 months, but felt so much worse. I just don't know where to turn anymore. I've gone through so many Dr.s over the years, that I've given up on them. All I ever hear is "anxiety" and "depression". Well, duh, I know that, but the anxiety and depression are due to not feeling good all the time!! Well, sorry to go on and on, but I just wanted to say I really do know how you feel. It's very scary. I wish there were somoething I could say to make you feel better, but knowing that there are others going through the same thing does seem to help. (Not that I would wish this on anyone). Hang in there, from what I keep reading here, it gets better. I just pray it's soon!! I'm 43 and have already been going through this off and on since my late 20's (had tubal ligation at 26 and think it may be related to that, just alot worse now). You'll get alot of advice and understanding here.
kassie
Thanks everyone for the encouraging words and I know I am not alone in this mess even though it feels like it. I am trying to think positive thoughts but I am not doing too good right now. I feel like I am just stuck in this frame of mind that it is over and I can't get out.

I felt like I was going to have a panic attack this evening. I sat there shaking all over thinking about going to the hospital but I started feeling some better. I have some kind of virus or something. My throat is sore and scratchy and so is my chest. I keep coughing and coughing and can't breathe good. I am taking an antibiotic and I think it is actually making the depression and anxiety worse but I am afraid not to take it because I don't want to get worse.

I thank everyone that took the time to respond. I feel like a little child that is so scared and needs its mom to keep telling it that everything will be okay.
mvarrin
What a great subject. I had a tubal ligation 3 years ago and I'd say my peri symptoms started about a year after that with increased PMS. However, my peri symptoms spiraled out of control about 9 months ago. It started with pain in my abdomen. I went to see my gyno and she said something about ovarian cancer and needing tests and that night I had a full on anxiety attack, the first of my life. It took me a few weeks (i'm very quick to research and investigate health issues) to figure out that I'm intolerant to gluten (negative on celiac) and that the pain was in my colon. But the anxiety wouldn't go away and then depression set in and then my eye started to twitch and I thought I had Menieres Disease because of the fullness in my ears and the tinnitus. I got glasses. I can't remember a thing (i'm sure I'm forgetting some symptoms). Then I started to get dizzy and would be for days on end. Then I had this weird rushing in my head at night when I'd lie down and I'd panic and my heart would race (this still happens). My libido tapered off. my new symptom since Dec. is my bladder is prolapsing and I have this constant urge to urinate and a heavy, almost painful feeling in my vagina and into my rectum.

Have been to dr.s and had so much checked and I'm apparently healthy as can be. Even my saliva test for hormones wasn't bad...low on them, but balanced. It's not what I'm experiencing though.

BUT THERE'S HOPE. I've been taking progesterone cream for a few years, but in the past 4 weeks more than doubled my dose and WOW my symptoms have dramatically subsided. I started Estriol too.

I will say this, the anxiety exacerbates ALL of it. I feel almost normal again now that it has subsided.

You all have such great heart!
mvarrin
QUOTE (kassie @ Jan 21 2007, 11:01 PM) *
Thanks everyone for the encouraging words and I know I am not alone in this mess even though it feels like it. I am trying to think positive thoughts but I am not doing too good right now. I feel like I am just stuck in this frame of mind that it is over and I can't get out.

I felt like I was going to have a panic attack this evening. I sat there shaking all over thinking about going to the hospital but I started feeling some better. I have some kind of virus or something. My throat is sore and scratchy and so is my chest. I keep coughing and coughing and can't breathe good. I am taking an antibiotic and I think it is actually making the depression and anxiety worse but I am afraid not to take it because I don't want to get worse.

I thank everyone that took the time to respond. I feel like a little child that is so scared and needs its mom to keep telling it that everything will be okay.



Kassie, I thought Tay did a great job expaining estrogen dominance. The very best medicine for you right now, if you haven't taken it already, is educating yourself on this. You can find articles on it here, but you can also google it and get some information. Most conventional docs don't know much about bioidentical hormones because they aren't made by major drug companies. The professionals researching, distributing and prescribing them do know. You have to find out for yourself, but I truly believe them to be safe. What is clearly dangerous in many ways is estrogen dominance. You really should be using your cream. And for me it works right away! It's quite calming.
kassie
mvarrin,

I totally agree, Tay did an excellent job!!! And I am very grateful to her for that and for her advice. I am grateful for everyones advice.

I am trying to educate myself. Even though it is very hard to concentrate, I am reading the articles on here. It is going slowly, but I am doing it.

I am going to try my best to use the progesterone cream. I checked my jar today and it expires in Feb. I did not realize I had it quite that long. Thanks for your advice.

I have to start feeling better someway!!
moteachr
Hi, Kassie--

I use the Wal Mart progest cream and one found at a health food store--no reason why both--it just worked out that way. For me, the stuff works great. I had an almost 2-week-old headache, aches all over, crying almost constantly, feelings of doom, doom, doom, and that stuff took care of most of it. I still get small aches, a LITTLE headache now and then--but the doom and gloom and crying is next to nothing. Best $$ I've spent since entering the Land of Peri. smile.gif

BJ
Susie Q
Just wondering, how do you use it if you are not having periods? I think I read where you use it so many weeks and then not on the week of your cycle. Also if you are not having periods does it make you start again? Sorry, but just wondering.

Susie
Provobabe
QUOTE (mydarling @ Sep 24 2006, 08:58 PM) *
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Hi girls,

well I certainly know about the shortness of breath THIS MONTH! I posted that on the forum under "WENT TO THE ER", i HAD TO, it was that bad. They gave me xanax, and it really helped. Yeah, he told me it was hormones, and stress. So, yeah, the non-breathing thing is scray and DOES come out of nowhere. unsure.gif

I have that too. Not all the time but it anxiety related I think. I had my second hot flash 2 weeks ago and then had several all night long! I also have incredible tension in neck and shoulders that finally sent me to a chiroprator. My arm went numb and I thought I was having a stroke. Pinched nerve he says because of tension, cell phone and bad posture at the computer. This has been a BAD month. Very blue and down, just want to fix dinner and go to bed. The weather has something to do with it but I hope this goes away. The worse part is waking up every 2 hours, craving sugar, then the hot flashes and depression. Is this part of it? I guess so. Does it go away? I have xanax but have never taken it because it makes me feel out of it.

Does anyone get the disease phobia stuff? I am afaraid of all sorts of things when I feel some odd sensation. Breast cancer, Pancreatic cancer, ovarian cancer, lung cancer even Lou Gerhigs disease for God's sake. This must STOP.
Louisa
mvarrin
QUOTE (Provobabe @ Jan 22 2007, 08:04 PM) *
I have that too. Not all the time but it anxiety related I think. I had my second hot flash 2 weeks ago and then had several all night long! I also have incredible tension in neck and shoulders that finally sent me to a chiroprator. My arm went numb and I thought I was having a stroke. Pinched nerve he says because of tension, cell phone and bad posture at the computer. This has been a BAD month. Very blue and down, just want to fix dinner and go to bed. The weather has something to do with it but I hope this goes away. The worse part is waking up every 2 hours, craving sugar, then the hot flashes and depression. Is this part of it? I guess so. Does it go away? I have xanax but have never taken it because it makes me feel out of it.

Does anyone get the disease phobia stuff? I am afaraid of all sorts of things when I feel some odd sensation. Breast cancer, Pancreatic cancer, ovarian cancer, lung cancer even Lou Gerhigs disease for God's sake. This must STOP.
Louisa


For a while there I was getting up almost every night to see what I was dying of. It's the darkest time I've ever experienced in my charmed life. Once I had everything checked out and found that I'm healthy and then I increased my progesterone dose, it all started to subside. And I think it's an upward spiral in that they play off of each other. It really helps me read about other people, like you, experiencing the same EXACT thing.

Michelle


QUOTE (Susie Q @ Jan 22 2007, 06:25 PM) *
Just wondering, how do you use it if you are not having periods? I think I read where you use it so many weeks and then not on the week of your cycle. Also if you are not having periods does it make you start again? Sorry, but just wondering.

Susie



I don't know exactly and hopefully someone will, but my naturopath said that if i'm still anxious during my period I can use the cream just in smaller doses. So even if you start to use it until you figure out the answer, it's probably ok. Another thought is to call Emerita, the makers of Progest. I think they have a # on their website.

Hopefully that helps some!!

Michelle
Provobabe
QUOTE (Joyful Heart @ Jan 20 2007, 10:36 PM) *
I'll jump in here....

I've had some anxiety off and on for the past 3 years. NEVER had this before in my life, so it was out of the blue for this girl! Only happened in the winter, but also coincided with health issues for my mother who was far away and I admit, I did worry. They moved close by and didn't have ANY problems last winter. This winter, it's come back, but I recognize it as being hormone related so I'm not getting myself in a panic over it.

I can relate to the tightness in the bottom area. Mine starts from the lower back, radiates down across (and deep into) the right side of my rear, makes EVERYTHING down there feel tight (including the muscles around and inside the vaginal/perianal area) and often feels like I'm sitting on something between the seat and my tailbone. This discomfort will sometimes continue to radiate down the back of my leg and even into my heel if it's really bad. The strange thing about this is it's there when I wake up! Sometimes when I wake at my normal 3:14 AM, I'm relaxed, but within minutes I can feel it building and I have to do a pelvic tilt to stretch those muscles out in order to even think about relaxing enough to get back to sleep! It's so annoying! I've had test after test and I KNOW it's muscle tension that I'm just not able to control. I'm not worried about ANYTHING, yet I wake and the muscles in my back, etc. feel like I've been hit by a truck! If I take an occasional anti-anxiety med that the Dr. gave me, all these symptoms go away, so I'm confident it's tension. NOW>....to find a way to get rid of that and I would feel MUCH better!

Currently, I take Magnesium, Evening Primrose Oil, Vit. E, Progesterone cream and a B Complex daily. No meds except the occasional Nerivam? for anxiety (ie: muscle tension). I've recently lost 35 lbs. that I've needed to loose and have added excercise to my routine. This has helped a bit, but not as much as I had hoped!

LMP was Sept. 4th, but I think I ovulated this past week, which will make me cycle again on the 30th of Jan. GREAT! Get to start all over in counting again!

What a GREAT thread!

~Cheryl
mvarrin
QUOTE (kassie @ Jan 22 2007, 05:52 PM) *
mvarrin,

I totally agree, Tay did an excellent job!!! And I am very grateful to her for that and for her advice. I am grateful for everyones advice.

I am trying to educate myself. Even though it is very hard to concentrate, I am reading the articles on here. It is going slowly, but I am doing it.

I am going to try my best to use the progesterone cream. I checked my jar today and it expires in Feb. I did not realize I had it quite that long. Thanks for your advice.

I have to start feeling better someway!!


I think you will start to feel better. You sound better already. I wish you all the luck in the world!
Provobabe
Hi Chery, Can you tell me about nerivam? I have incredible muscle tension and do not want to take xanax as it zones me out. I need to ask Mr Dr for somewthing anf I have never heard of this.
Louisa
Tay
Ok Susie this should answer your questions about progest cream...

According to my bottle this is the instructions:

Menstruating women:
Apply on the 12th day after the 1st day of your flow through the 27th day.

Peri Women:
Apply on the 7th day after the 1st day of your period through the 27th day

Menopause women:
Apply for a maximum of 25 consecutive days. Resume after a 5 day break...

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I don't know if others are different, but that's on the back of my bottle. You can use it up to twice a day on any 'soft' area, but rotate so you don't put it in the same spot each time. You can use it on arms, legs, chest, neck, shoulders, belly, bottoms of feet...

And Provo...the answer is yes. Most all of us have, at one time or another, convinced ourselves we were dying of something. Mine was colon cancer...I spent weeks looking at all the symptoms trying to tell myself my IBS wasactually colon cancer instead. It's amazing what a bunch of unruley hormones can do to sane intelligent women.

It will pass..honest it will - but believe me when I say, your reaction is normal - it's just one of the things 'peri' does to us.

((HUGS - peri sisters))) smile.gif
Susie Q
Tay,
Thanks for the info. May have to try that. Need something to calm me from the wired up feeling and adrenaline rushes that I have. I'm sure that is why I get the skipped beats. Does anyone know if that is a symptom of low progesterine? I mean the revved up nervous feeling? Dr. gave me toprol xl but I'm afraid to try it cause my blood pressure isn't really high.

Susie
Tay
Yep Susie, the 'wired' feelings, the racing heart...both are signs of your body reacting to the anxiety. (and yes, that's a result of little to no progesterone). Give the cream a try and see if it works. Some gilrs benefit from it immediately, others takes a bit longer - but either way, it's certainly worth giving it a try...

I know how frightening a racing, strange beating heart can be. Last year, mine was so rapid I could lay on the bed and watch it beat through my shirt. I was convinved there was something wrong - but there wasn't. As soon as I got the anxiety 'rush' under control, the racing heart subsided.

Look up the new medication on a search engine - just put in the name and write behind it...side effects. The links that come up will tell you most everything you'll need to know about the drug, including what it's commonly prescribed for. ok?

(HUGS)
Susie Q
Tay,
Thank you so much for your reply. Gonna go to Walmart tonight. Will pick some up. Is there a certain kind that you buy at Walmart or is any kind ok? Gotta get rid of the skipped beats and wired anxiety feeling!!!!!

Susie
kassie
Hello everyone,

I have a couple of questions. For those that use the progesterone cream...how much do you use? My jar reccommends rubbing 1/4 to 1/2 tsp. Did you start out with that amount? And how much are you using now? Also, I take a multi vit. It has 100 mg of Magnesium, 30 i.u. of vit. E , plus other B vits. Is this enough? How much do you take of these?

I have been so close to going to the hospital today but didn't. Lack of health insurance plays a huge part in that decision. I only had a couple of hrs of sleep again last night. My head is either all stopped up or my nose is running and eyes watering and hurting. It hurts when I breathe from coughing so much and I ache all over. To top it off I am so bloated and hurting in my abdomen and lower back. Needless to say the anxiety is over the top. I am so miserable. Well, enough of my complaining. Thanks for listening.
mvarrin
QUOTE (kassie @ Jan 23 2007, 10:59 PM) *
Hello everyone,

I have a couple of questions. For those that use the progesterone cream...how much do you use? My jar reccommends rubbing 1/4 to 1/2 tsp. Did you start out with that amount? And how much are you using now? Also, I take a multi vit. It has 100 mg of Magnesium, 30 i.u. of vit. E , plus other B vits. Is this enough? How much do you take of these?

I have been so close to going to the hospital today but didn't. Lack of health insurance plays a huge part in that decision. I only had a couple of hrs of sleep again last night. My head is either all stopped up or my nose is running and eyes watering and hurting. It hurts when I breathe from coughing so much and I ache all over. To top it off I am so bloated and hurting in my abdomen and lower back. Needless to say the anxiety is over the top. I am so miserable. Well, enough of my complaining. Thanks for listening.


Hi Kassie, I used a pea size (dr.'s recommend) for months and then finally got a measuring spoon and started to take a 1/4 tsp. about 5 weeks ago. I turned a corner then. I would say, with your symptoms, to start with 1/2 tsp. and then if you're too drowsy (wouldn't that be nice??) you can cut back. Hey, I found this great, quick FAQ on hormones:

http://www.cbs.com/cbs_cares/menopause/men...view_uzzi.shtml

I take a lot of supplements. I started to sleep a lot better when I increased my progesterone, but I also started to take 500mg magnesium and epsom salt baths before bed (like half a carton and soak 1/2 an hour). Really, really drowsy and relaxed. So nice.

Do you also have a cold or just allergies? I hate to be nosey, but when you hinted at not having insurance it made me wonder if you're getting primary care. It's such an important part of good health.

Hope you have a better day and hang in there!

Michelle
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